Why did Kobe go 6/22 versus LeBron? Why was he so helpless against LeBeast?

[RRR3]

Discuss.

[3ba11]

The Westbrooking brand of ball has always done well in the regular season and Dwight was getting trounced in the regular season too, but then he demolished the simpleton Lebron-ball offense in the playoffs, just like underdog Dirk, and underdog injured KG.. Similarly, Kobe would destroy Lebron in the playoffs too

[RRR3]

The Westbrooking brand of ball has always done well in the regular season and Dwight was getting trounced in the regular season too, but then he demolished the simpleton Lebron-ball offense in the playoffs, just like underdog Dirk, and underdog injured KG.. Similarly, Kobe would destroy Lebron in the playoffs too
LeBron doubled Kobe’s number of alpha dog rings. Tell us where it hurts.

[3ba11]

LeBron doubled Kobe’s number of alpha dog rings. Tell us where it hurts.


Lebron never won without super-teams as the clear-cut top producer - he always needed 1b's (equal-scoring partners) and super-teams (3rd stars), while Kobe repeated without either..

Kobe is the only guy aside from Mike that won multiple chips with a true 2nd option that never achieved FMVP or elite 1st option stats.

imagine needing super-teams and 1b's to win and then trying to compare yourself to Kobe or Mike... lol

[TheCorporation]

The Westbrooking brand of ball has always done well in the regular season and Dwight was getting trounced in the regular season too, but then he demolished the simpleton Lebron-ball offense in the playoffs, just like underdog Dirk, and underdog injured KG.. Similarly, Kobe would destroy Lebron in the playoffs too

LeBron's 2018 run alone was better than all of Kobe's playoff career highs from any year

https://i.postimg.cc/QtTcRFL4/FB_IMG_1528921326607.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/9XNrQrGn/screen-shot-2018-05-21-at-11-42-59-am.jpg

[HBK_Kliq_2]

meaningless regular season games. Kobe was waiting for his ass in 2009 but he got cucked by Dwight.

Kawhi being 8-5 over Luka in playoffs is much more impressive.

[3ba11]

LeBron's 2018 run alone was better than all of Kobe's playoff career highs from any year

https://i.postimg.cc/QtTcRFL4/FB_IMG_1528921326607.jpg





Figuring out a way means playing a better brand of team ball than Westbrooking









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shannon sharpe is a lying bum that makes his case for Lebron by LYING - he says that Jordan "toned it down" to 28 ppg to win titles, and that Pippen led Jordan in assists for every title run.

except Jordan never averaged below 31 for any title and his scoring increased to maximum levels during the first 3-peat, while also leading the bulls in assists for 6 of 9 playoff runs alongside pippen (including 3 title runs)

[Kobe_Bryant]

lol I owned lebum. outscored him like 100 to 20 in 1 on 1 plays

his teams were just better most years during the regular season cause he skipped my first 8 years basically as a contender and faced my rebuilding teams in

2005
2006
2007
2014
2015
2016

and inbetween he had the #1 seed or a colluded superteam in

2009
2010
2011
2012
2013



and even in 2008 we played our 2 games vs the cavs without Pau before the trade. and I think I only played him once in 2004 and won

so it's just a matter of timing and cheating really

[TheCorporation]

LeBron's 2018 run alone was better than all of Kobe's playoff career highs from any year

https://i.postimg.cc/QtTcRFL4/FB_IMG_1528921326607.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/9XNrQrGn/screen-shot-2018-05-21-at-11-42-59-am.jpg

Kenny?

3ball?

[Kobe_Bryant]

LeBron's 2018 run alone was better than all of Kobe's playoff career highs from any year

https://i.postimg.cc/QtTcRFL4/FB_IMG_1528921326607.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/9XNrQrGn/screen-shot-2018-05-21-at-11-42-59-am.jpg

I guess I'm the measuring stick of success

[RRR3]

Lebron never won without super-teams as the clear-cut top producer - he always needed 1b's (equal-scoring partners) and super-teams (3rd stars), while Kobe repeated without either..

Kobe is the only guy aside from Mike that won multiple chips with a true 2nd option that never achieved FMVP or elite 1st option stats.

imagine needing super-teams and 1b's to win and then trying to compare yourself to Kobe or Mike... lol
LeBron won with his sidekick averaging 16 PPG on bad efficiency, stop lying. That’s better than anything Kobe ever did.

[Kobe_Bryant]

btw I always find it odd how lebron fans gloat about lebrons averages during a series he got swept in

I couldn't imagine bragging about my stats in a series that I got my shit pushed in

[Kobe_Bryant]

LeBron won with his sidekick averaging 16 PPG on bad efficiency, stop lying. That’s better than anything Kobe ever did.

lebron never won

roids
ring chasing
lockouts
bail outs
collusions
suspensions
bubbles


sorry kiddo. the guy is basically Westbrook with durants rings and Barry bonds muscles

[TheCorporation]

I guess I'm the measuring stick of success

It's called Gatekeeper.

For top 12 status.

12be lives forever :lol

[TheCorporation]

btw I always find it odd how lebron fans gloat about lebrons averages during a series he got swept in

I couldn't imagine bragging about my stats in a series that I got my shit pushed in

Imagine forgetting the 2018 Playoffs was four series :roll: Poor Ken lost his mind :lol

[3ba11]

LeBron won with his sidekick averaging 16 PPG on bad efficiency, stop lying. That’s better than anything Kobe ever did.


Wade averaged 15.9 on 46% in those playoffs, which is worse than Pippen's 16.8 on 39% in 1996 or 1998 (2 times)

And quit playing dumb - Lebron had TWO sidekicks that share the load (big 3) in a weak conference...

So I wouldn't expect Wade to score much with a big 3 in a weak East, but he averaged 20 in those Finals and outscored the opponent's #1 option - this would've been the 3rd best Finals of Pippen's career.

Ultimately, Jordan carried the scoring load for every title (10-30 more than Pippen in every series), while Lebron never carried the scoring load (2-5 more than sidekicks in Finals and outscored for entire playoff runs)

[Kobe_Bryant]

It's called Gatekeeper.

For top 12 status.

12be lives forever :lol

nearly every player/legend has me above lebron. only lebron and his fans/media jockeys think he's better because they don't have any contest. they don't realize that there's prestige and respect that comes along with everything

when a player takes the easy route in an easy era against easy teams and gets bailed out or relies on manipulation by commissioners then thise accomplishments mean nothing

[3ba11]

lol I owned lebum. outscored him like 100 to 20 in 1 on 1 plays

his teams were just better most years during the regular season cause he skipped my first 8 years basically as a contender and faced my rebuilding teams in

2005
2006
2007
2014
2015
2016

and inbetween he had the #1 seed or a colluded superteam in

2009
2010
2011
2012
2013



and even in 2008 we played our 2 games vs the cavs without Pau before the trade. and I think I only played him once in 2004 and won

so it's just a matter of timing and cheating really


You took a 1x all-star to the 2008 Finals, while Lebron missed the 2005 Playoffs with a 2-time all-star and similar player to Pau, except Zydrunas was the #6 rim protector (2.5 blocks)

[RRR3]

Wade averaged 15.9 on 46% in those playoffs, which is worse than Pippen's 16.8 on 39% in 1996 or 1998 (2 times)

And quit playing dumb - Lebron had TWO sidekicks that share the load (big 3) in a weak conference...

So I wouldn't expect Wade to score much with a big 3 in a weak East, but he averaged 20 in those Finals and outscored the opponent's #1 option - this would've been the 3rd best Finals of Pippen's career.

Ultimately, Jordan carried the scoring load for every title (10-30 more than Pippen in every series), while Lebron never carried the scoring load (2-5 more than sidekicks in Finals and outscored for entire playoff runs)
Why are you running back to your MJ binky? Kobe just can’t stack up to LeBron can he? :lol You have to scurry back to your security blanket :roll:

[TheCorporation]

nearly every player/legend has me above lebron. only lebron and his fans/media jockeys think he's better because they don't have any contest. they don't realize that there's prestige and respect that comes along with everything

when a player takes the easy route in an easy era against easy teams and gets bailed out or relies on manipulation by commissioners then thise accomplishments mean nothing

Relax. You're top 12--be thankful.

[SouBeachTalents]

You took a 1x all-star to the 2008 Finals, while Lebron missed the 2005 Playoffs with a 2-time all-star and similar player to Pau, except Zydrunas was the #6 rim protector (2.5 blocks)
:lol Why don't you compare their stats like you do with Pippen and see if that's actually true

[Kobe_Bryant]

Imagine forgetting the 2018 Playoffs was four series :roll: Poor Ken lost his mind :lol



oh my bad I forgot about lebron beating up on Lance Stephenson in a series Indiana actually won and then beating up on the Celtics without kyrie that Boston actually won

[RRR3]

You know you’ve lost when you start comparing Big Z to Pau Gasol

[Kobe_Bryant]

I asked this the other day and nobody answered. why is it lebrons sidekicks outperformed the other teams best player in nearly every series since "the decision"


2011 first round:
Wade - 22/8/5 with 53%ts PERFORMED BETTER
Bosh - 20/9/1 with 54%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Best 76er player Brand - 15/8/0 with 57%ts


2011 2nd round:
Wade - 30/7/5 with 55%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Best celtic player Pierce - 19/5/3 with 57%ts


2011 3rd round:
Bosh - 23/8/1 with 69%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Bulls best player Rose - 23/4/6 with 43%ts


2011 finals:
Wade - 27/7/5 with 61%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Mavs best player Dirk - 26/9/2 with 53%ts


2012 2nd round:
Wade - 26/6/3 with 54%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Pacers best player Granger - 13/4/3 with 48%ts

2012 3rd round:
Wade - 21/6/5 with 52%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Bostons best player Garnett - 19/9/1 with 52%ts????
or Pierce - 18/4/2 with 43%ts? lol


2013 1st round:
Allen - 17/4/2 with 66%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
bucks best player Ellis - 14/3/5 with 45%ts

2013 2nd round:
Bosh - 14/9/2 with 56%ts EVEN
vs
Bulls best player butler - 15/6/2 with 58%ts

2013 Finals:
Wade - 20/4/5/2 with 51%ts EVEN
vs
Spurs best player Duncan 18/12/1 with 55%ts

2014 2nd round:
Wade - 18/4/4 with 55%ts EVEN
vs
nets best player johnson 20/4/2 with 65%ts

2014 finals:
Wade - 15/4/3/2 with 50%ts EVEN
vs
Spurs best player Kawhi - 17/6/2/2 with 75%ts

2015 first round:
Kyrie - 23/5/4 with 58%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Boston best player Thomas - 17/3/7 with 51%ts

2015 2nd round:
Kyrie - 18/2/3 with 59%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Bulls best player Rose - 21/5/6 with 45%ts

2015 3rd round:
Jr Smith - 18/8/2 with 66%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Hawks best player - Teague 21/3/4 with 52%ts

2016 first round:
Kyrie - 28/2/5 with 59%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Pistons best player Drummond - 16/9/0 with 48%ts

2016 2nd round:
Kyrie - 21/2/6 with 62%ts PERFORMED BETTER
Love - 19/13/3 with 50%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Hawks best player millsap - 17/10/3 with 50%ts

2016 3rd round:
Kyrie - 24/3/5 with 56%ts EVEN
vs
Raptors best player derozan - 23/3/3 with 56%ts

2016 finals:
Kyrie - 27/4/4/2 with 56%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Warriors best player curry - 22/5/4 with 58%ts

2017 2nd round:
Kyrie - 22/3/9 with 50%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Raptors best player derozan - 20/4/4 with 51%ts

2017 3rd round:
Kyrie - 26/2/5 with 76%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Boston best player Bradley 19/4/2 with 48%ts

2018 2nd round:
Love - 21/12/2 with 59%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Raptors best player lowry - 18/3/9 with 73%ts

2020 1st round:
Davis - 30/9/4 with 66%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
blazers best player lillard - 24/3/4 with 61%ts

2020 2nd round:
Davis - 26/12/4 with 66%ts PERFORMED BETTER(defense included)
vs
rockets best player harden - 29/4/7 with 66%ts

2020 3rd round:
Davis - 31/6/3 with 67%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Nuggets best player Murray - 25/4/7 with 63%ts

2020 finals:
Davis - 25/11/3 with 67%ts PERFORMED BETTER(defense included)
vs
Heat best player Butler - 26/8/9 with 65%ts



:confusedshrug: whatsupwitdat?

[Kobe_Bryant]

You know you’ve lost when you start comparing Big Z to Pau Gasol

big Z had more accomplishments in Cleveland than Pau ever had in memphis

[3ba11]

You know you’ve lost when you start comparing Big Z to Pau Gasol


How did Lebron miss the playoffs with the East all-star center in 2005?

How was he that bad to miss the playoffs 2 years in a row during his athletic prime and then his first year in LA?

he's a bum and all the facts show that... you bring up titles and i bring up super-team collusions and zero rings without super-teams... he literally CAN'T WIN without super-teams as the clear-cut top producer - his poor man's version of Magic Johnson style must be carried (equal-scoring partners and super-teams)

lol

[Kobe_Bryant]

:lol Why don't you compare their stats like you do with Pippen and see if that's actually true

lebron ruined big Zs stats the same way he ruins everyone else's not named kyrie Irving

[TheCorporation]

Why did Kobe go 6/22 versus LeBron? Why was he so helpless against LeBeast?


Anyone?

[SouBeachTalents]

lebron ruined big Zs stats the same way he ruins everyone else's not named kyrie Irving
Big Z had literally identical averages in '03 as he did his first 3 years with LeBron, though not surprisingly he saw a significant increase in efficiency

[3ba11]

Big Z had literally identical averages in '03 as he did his first 3 years with LeBron, though not surprisingly he saw a significant increase in efficiency.


what happened to Larry Hughes alongside Lebron

ditto Ingram

ditto wade

ditto Jamison, Kuzma, IT, Rose, Clarkson, everyone

lebron is a bum because his simpleton westbrooking skillset reduces players to spot-up roles - that's the historical record and statistical fact regardless of the lies you hear on TV

[RRR3]

what happened to Larry Hughes alongside Lebron

ditto Ingram

ditto wade

ditto Jamison, Kuzma, IT, Rose, Clarkson, everyone

lebron is a bum that reduces players - that's the historical record and statistical fact regardless of the lies you hear on TV
LeBron brutalized the same Thunder team Kobe pooped the bed against in 2012.

[3ba11]

LeBron brutalized the same Thunder team Kobe pooped the bed against in 2012.


Kobe was past his prime

Kobe and Dirk destroyed the Spurs that killed Lebron

Harden nearly beat the Warriors that beat Lebron by record amount

[RRR3]

Kobe was past his prime

Kobe and Dirk destroyed the Spurs that killed Lebron

Harden nearly beat the Warriors that beat Lebron by record amount
Excuses. Kobe was still team first team all-NBA. LeBron gave the 08 Celtics a better fight than Kobrick did and he had a way worse team.

[3ba11]

Excuses. Kobe was still team first team all-NBA. LeBron gave the 08 Celtics a better fight than Kobrick did and he had a way worse team.


Are you that clueless about Lebron's career that you would bring up the 2008 Playoffs?...

Lebron averaged 26 on 35% against the 08' Celtics - do you realize that no 1st option ever shot 35% in a series before?... So Lebron played worse than anyone ever had against those Celtics, yet his team still went 7 games because of their goat team defense that held the Celtics below all their normal offensive metrics.

Otoh, the Lakers didn't have a good defense and the matchups were shitty, so they lost.

[RRR3]

Are you that clueless about Lebron's career that you would bring up the 2008 Playoffs?...

Lebron averaged 26 on 35% against the 08' Celtics - do you realize that no 1st option ever shot 35% in a series before?... So Lebron played worse than anyone ever had against those Celtics, yet his team still went 7 games because of their goat team defense that held the Celtics below all their normal offensive metrics.

Otoh, the Lakers didn't have a good defense and the matchups were shitty, so they lost.
You just lied multiple times in that post. You’re incapable of making arguments without blatantly lying :lol


LeBron annihilates Kobe and you know it that’s why you hide behind MJ

[Axe]

2/7 or february 7

Also

6/16 or june 16

[Kobe_Bryant]

Why did Kobe go 6/22 versus LeBron? Why was he so helpless against LeBeast?


Anyone?

already answered. I owned lebum 1 on 1 and his teams were almost always better than mine

when you never go through a rebuild in your life after your first 3 years in the league and then collude the rest of the way chances are you're gonna get the W more often than not. especially when you catch me during 2 rebuilds and a post Achilles rupture for the 2nd

[Kobe_Bryant]

2/7 or february 7

Also

6/16 or june 16

how about 0 for 10 without bail outs, lockouts, suspensions and bubbles

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Are you that clueless about Lebron's career that you would bring up the 2008 Playoffs?...

Lebron averaged 26 on 35% against the 08' Celtics - do you realize that no 1st option ever shot 35% in a series before?... So Lebron played worse than anyone ever had against those Celtics, yet his team still went 7 games because of their goat team defense that held the Celtics below all their normal offensive metrics.

Otoh, the Lakers didn't have a good defense and the matchups were shitty, so they lost.

I had to double check, holy shit that's embarrassing :roll::roll::roll:

and that's even with playing very well in game 7

[Axe]

how about 0 for 10 without bail outs, lockouts, suspensions and bubbles
Cringe

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Are you that clueless about Lebron's career that you would bring up the 2008 Playoffs?...

Lebron averaged 26 on 35% against the 08' Celtics - do you realize that no 1st option ever shot 35% in a series before?... So Lebron played worse than anyone ever had against those Celtics, yet his team still went 7 games because of their goat team defense that held the Celtics below all their normal offensive metrics.

Otoh, the Lakers didn't have a good defense and the matchups were shitty, so they lost.

Bron also had a game going 45/6/5 on 48% shooting.

Game 7 to be exact

When did Kobe ever have a performance like that vs Boston?

[Kobe_Bryant]

Cringe

you kill me for every asterisk.

2000 - shaq carried me
2002 - rigged kings series
2010 - 6 for 24


wellllll...

2012 - lockout, colluded big 3
2013 - bail out, colluded big 4
2016 - bail out, suspension, colluded big 3
2020 - colluded with AD, bubble, 5 month break, no fans or travel, no Durant or kyrie by choice cause of blm



at least I have 2001 and 2009 as untouchable rings.

2 > 0

[outofstomach]

I asked this the other day and nobody answered. why is it lebrons sidekicks outperformed the other teams best player in nearly every series since "the decision"


2011 first round:
Wade - 22/8/5 with 53%ts PERFORMED BETTER
Bosh - 20/9/1 with 54%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Best 76er player Brand - 15/8/0 with 57%ts


2011 2nd round:
Wade - 30/7/5 with 55%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Best celtic player Pierce - 19/5/3 with 57%ts


2011 3rd round:
Bosh - 23/8/1 with 69%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Bulls best player Rose - 23/4/6 with 43%ts


2011 finals:
Wade - 27/7/5 with 61%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Mavs best player Dirk - 26/9/2 with 53%ts


2012 2nd round:
Wade - 26/6/3 with 54%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Pacers best player Granger - 13/4/3 with 48%ts

2012 3rd round:
Wade - 21/6/5 with 52%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Bostons best player Garnett - 19/9/1 with 52%ts????
or Pierce - 18/4/2 with 43%ts? lol


2013 1st round:
Allen - 17/4/2 with 66%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
bucks best player Ellis - 14/3/5 with 45%ts

2013 2nd round:
Bosh - 14/9/2 with 56%ts EVEN
vs
Bulls best player butler - 15/6/2 with 58%ts

2013 Finals:
Wade - 20/4/5/2 with 51%ts EVEN
vs
Spurs best player Duncan 18/12/1 with 55%ts

2014 2nd round:
Wade - 18/4/4 with 55%ts EVEN
vs
nets best player johnson 20/4/2 with 65%ts

2014 finals:
Wade - 15/4/3/2 with 50%ts EVEN
vs
Spurs best player Kawhi - 17/6/2/2 with 75%ts

2015 first round:
Kyrie - 23/5/4 with 58%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Boston best player Thomas - 17/3/7 with 51%ts

2015 2nd round:
Kyrie - 18/2/3 with 59%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Bulls best player Rose - 21/5/6 with 45%ts

2015 3rd round:
Jr Smith - 18/8/2 with 66%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Hawks best player - Teague 21/3/4 with 52%ts

2016 first round:
Kyrie - 28/2/5 with 59%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Pistons best player Drummond - 16/9/0 with 48%ts

2016 2nd round:
Kyrie - 21/2/6 with 62%ts PERFORMED BETTER
Love - 19/13/3 with 50%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Hawks best player millsap - 17/10/3 with 50%ts

2016 3rd round:
Kyrie - 24/3/5 with 56%ts EVEN
vs
Raptors best player derozan - 23/3/3 with 56%ts

2016 finals:
Kyrie - 27/4/4/2 with 56%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Warriors best player curry - 22/5/4 with 58%ts

2017 2nd round:
Kyrie - 22/3/9 with 50%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Raptors best player derozan - 20/4/4 with 51%ts

2017 3rd round:
Kyrie - 26/2/5 with 76%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Boston best player Bradley 19/4/2 with 48%ts

2018 2nd round:
Love - 21/12/2 with 59%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Raptors best player lowry - 18/3/9 with 73%ts

2020 1st round:
Davis - 30/9/4 with 66%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
blazers best player lillard - 24/3/4 with 61%ts

2020 2nd round:
Davis - 26/12/4 with 66%ts PERFORMED BETTER(defense included)
vs
rockets best player harden - 29/4/7 with 66%ts

2020 3rd round:
Davis - 31/6/3 with 67%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Nuggets best player Murray - 25/4/7 with 63%ts

2020 finals:
Davis - 25/11/3 with 67%ts PERFORMED BETTER(defense included)
vs
Heat best player Butler - 26/8/9 with 65%ts



:confusedshrug: whatsupwitdat?
guys?

[outofstomach]

I had to double check, holy shit that's embarrassing :roll::roll::roll:

and that's even with playing very well in game 7:lol