How is LeBron’s use of Klutch Sports to funnel players to his teams not Outlawed?

[eliteballer]

It’s a joke, Steroids, Super Teams, and Collusion to manufacture a shameful legacy.

[3ba11]

People are dumb and have no problem worshipping a fraud if that fraud smiles enough and fits their world view

[Im so nba'd out]

Chess not checkers....in about 20 years lebron will be the undisputed greatest player of all time...all the jordanaires will be gone just like the how the wilt-a-nites have flamed out trying to debate wilt > jordan..Time always wins out :oldlol:...your fighting a losing battle 3flaw....every day the jordanaires grow weaker while every day we get stronger :oldlol:.I'll admit the last dance really threw a wrench in the plan for a couple of months but we are back on course as usual of Jordanaires going extinct


LeBron will hold the throne until lebron james jr comes of age.....deal with it

[DoctorP]

better watch your posts. LeBrons a gangster and will have you killed.

[ScottieQuitting]

It’s a joke, Steroids, Super Teams, and Collusion to manufacture a shameful legacy.
He’s a competitive coward

[Hey Yo]

He’s a competitive coward

Jordan the summer of 98'

"No Phil, no Pippen, I'm quittin"

[ShawkFactory]

Because it's fun to watch people like you melt the fvck down.

[Dagoods]

I am fan of both, but LeBron is nowhere near MJ.

PERFECTION cannot be beaten. "Yeah he got to the NBA FINALS a lot more times, what's your excuse for LeBron getting outplayed by DIRK?"
10 Scoring Titles. "He's the all-time NBA scorer." True, but that's a longevity record. We all know his offense is quite limited..
9 All-NBA 1st Team Defense. LBJ all managed to do this 5x and the quit playing defense altogether.
Defensive Player of the Year - ZERO

Won rings in more physical era, tougher era (back when CENTERS were dominant). And above all, he did not Super Team his way to further enhance his legacy.

[Kobe_Bryant]

he also used rich Paul to buy his steroids. it's true look up "lebron linked to Miami steroid clinic with jameer Nelson 2013

[3ba11]

We all hated the super-team idea at first but now everyone has accepted it and argues on it's behalf - so people are just dumb lapdogs - Lebron decided to team up and only KD had the smarts or stones to do anything about it

Lebron's super-teams were so unfair from 2011-2016, that KD finally said F*CK THAT... i'm not gonna let this bitch cheat and collude his way to a better legacy

[Mr. Woke]

It’s a joke, Steroids, Super Teams, and Collusion to manufacture a shameful legacy.

The NBA already said that there is no conflict of interest lol.

LeBron haters are clearly retarded monkeys. They have no testicular fortitude or integrity.

[3ba11]

no testicular fortitude or integrity.


^^^ that's Lebron fans for tolerating his non-competitive approach, lower bar

[AirBonner]

LeBron runs the league

[Mr. Woke]

^^^ that's Lebron fans for tolerating his non-competitive approach, lower bar

LeBron has more competitiveness in his pinky than everyone in this forum combined.

LeBron haters are narcissistic douches with zero self-awareness, integrity, testicular fortitude, character, or class.

[3ba11]

LeBron has more competitiveness in his pinky than everyone in this forum combined.

LeBron haters are narcissistic douches with zero self-awareness, integrity, testicular fortitude, character, or class.


If Lebron can carry bums to the Finals, why did he leave Cleveland and form super-teams?.. This action confirmed that he infact couldn't carry anyone to the Finals.. The historical record confirms this clearly:

Jordan carried lottery teams (teams that were lottery the prior year) to low seeds and therefore carried bad teams in the playoffs, while Lebron failed to carry lottery teams to low seeds in 04' 05' or 19', so he only had high seeds in the playoffs (good casts relative to conference) - he never actually carried "bums" like people say.. This is confirmed because Gilbert Arenas and Larry Hughes made the 2nd Round in 2005, but then Lebron stole Hughes and beat Arenas in 2006 - so Lebron had a superior cast to his opponent in his first playoffs, and was never carrying bums.. Again, his playoff teams were always high seeds (good casts relative to conference), so he never had to carry his worst teams/bad teams in the playoffs like MJ did..

When Lebron made the 06' Playoffs, he actually had the #4 defense, the East all-star center, a 22/5/5 all-defender acquisition and the future COY - that's more help than the 1st three-peat Bulls.. Then they added all-star Mo Williams in 2009 and then Jamison/Shaq were added to 66-win league favorite in 2010.. aka stacked and expected to win.. The 2010 Cavs had the same-ranked defense as the 1st three-peat Bulls and far more scoring options.

[AirBonner]

Was LeBron a baby at 26?

[3ba11]

Was LeBron a baby at 26?


No but he was at 22-23 years old:



Stats at 22-23 years old vs championship team and #1 defense:

Jordan vs 86' Celts..... 44/6/6 on 50%
Lebron vs 07' Spurs.... 22/6/6 on 36%







Lebron can carry any bums to the Finals




If Lebron can carry bums to the Finals, why did he leave Cleveland and form super-teams?.. This action confirmed that he infact couldn't carry anyone to the Finals..

And the historical record confirms this clearly:

Lebron failed to carry lottery teams (teams that were lottery the prior year) to low seeds in 04' 05' or 19', so he only had high seeds in the playoffs (good casts relative to conference) - he never actually carried "bums" like people say.. This is confirmed because Gilbert Arenas and Larry Hughes made the 2nd Round in 2005, but then Lebron stole Hughes and beat Arenas in 2006 - so Lebron had a superior cast to his opponents, and was never carrying bums.. Again, his playoff teams were always high seeds (good casts relative to conference), so he never had to carry his worst teams/bad teams in the playoffs like MJ did..

When Lebron made the 06' Playoffs, he actually had the #4 defense, the East all-star center, a 22/5/5 all-defender acquisition and the future COY - that's more help than the 1st three-peat Bulls.. Then they added all-star Mo Williams in 2009 and then Jamison/Shaq were added to 66-win league favorite in 2010.. aka stacked and expected to win.. The 2010 Cavs had the same-ranked defense as the 1st three-peat Bulls and far more scoring options.

[AirBonner]

Westbrook was a baby at 28 but not LeBron at 26, ok

[3ba11]

Westbrook was a baby at 28 but not LeBron at 26, ok


Who cares - inferior strategy loses regardless of who is employing it, aka Westbrooking loses regardless of who the Westbrooker is, even a 6'9" Westbrook (lebron)

Since inferior strategy loses regardless of who is employing it, Lebron was a career-loser just like other ball-dominators until he formed super-teams, and then he STILL mostly lost - inferior strategy loses regardless of cast or coach

[AirBonner]

4 chips 4fmvp 4 mvp

Apparently westbrooking is successful

[3ba11]

4 chips 4fmvp 4 mvp

Apparently westbrooking is successful


^^^ with super-teams or teammates to out-produce him (AD), and still mostly loses, 4/10

aka westbrooking never won without super-teams as the clear-cut top-producer

[AirBonner]

^^^ with super-teams or teammates to out-produce him (AD), and still mostly loses, 4/10

aka westbrooking never won without super-teams as the clear-cut top-producer

Westbrooking didn’t work for the 2012 Thunder which had 3 future mvps

[8Ball]

I wouldn't expect any less from the GOAT.

Must have a right hand sports agency business at his disposal to wield power.

[3ba11]

Westbrooking didn’t work for the 2012 Thunder which had 3 future mvps


Imagine getting 4 cracks at it with 1 seeded league favorites or super-teams before finally winning... lol

so it was cute when Lebron finally won - it looked so coddled, like giving a cookie to a child.. who in the hell couldn't win once from 09-12' with 1 seeds or super-teams?.. it was pretty pathetic when he finally broke through with his staged super-team

2012 Wade had a 26 PER that year and was top 5 in everything despite handing the team over to Lebron (PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP)...

[ScottieQuitting]

Jordan the summer of 98'

"No Phil, no Pippen, I'm quittin"
Well for starters this came after winning his second three peat. He was more than accomplished at 35 going on 36.

Yeah he was trying to stand up for his comrades. Not throw them under the bus or get them traded. You know, like cowardly LeBron.

If only Mike used one of his friends by proxy to run a sports management company, and leverage his clients superstar players to demand a trade to come to whatever team MJ wanted to be on. Like a Leshady coward loser.

But he still came back at 39 years old to drag a garbage cast in Washington, while risking a storybook ending to his career. That takes quite a bit of courage. And fortitude. And competitive spirit. Especially considering his next best player was rookie Richard Hamilton

[FultzNationRISE]

OP what if I was just to kick the everloving shit out of you??

Huh?

THEN what the fvck you gonna have to say?

[eliteballer]

OP what if I was just to kick the everloving shit out of you??

Huh?

THEN what the fvck you gonna have to say?

Get a job, you've already used half a dozen accounts in this thread.

[FultzNationRISE]

<——————- Take a look in these eyes you ****ing fakkit, and ask yourself one question:



“Do I feel lucky?”



Well?


Do ya, punk?

[expansionera]

Because Lebron doesn’t technically own Klutch, I do think it’s poor sportsmanship but understand the leagues goal is to make money. The Lakers and Lebron James independently generate more revenue for the league than any other entity.

Not dissimilar to Tim Donaghy and Michael Jordan both digesting the non fouls Jordan drew practically every trip to the line. The NBA is entertainment, no one wants to see the Pacers/Pistons and Spurs in the Finals again. As much as people bitch and moan nobody watched the NBA when there was parity, people traditionally tune in for rivalries from super squads with legendary players rather.

[FilmyCogTurner]

Chess not checkers....in about 20 years lebron will be the undisputed greatest player of all time...all the jordanaires will be gone just like the how the wilt-a-nites have flamed out trying to debate wilt > jordan..Time always wins out :oldlol:...your fighting a losing battle 3flaw....every day the jordanaires grow weaker while every day we get stronger :oldlol:.I'll admit the last dance really threw a wrench in the plan for a couple of months but we are back on course as usual of Jordanaires going extinct


LeBron will hold the throne until lebron james jr comes of age.....deal with it

Yeah, there's just one small problem here... neither Lebron James or Will Chamberlain are MICHAEL ****ing Jordan.

[FultzNationRISE]

Because Lebron doesn’t technically own Klutch, I do think it’s poor sportsmanship but understand the leagues goal is to make money. The Lakers and Lebron James independently generate more revenue for the league than any other entity.

Not dissimilar to Tim Donaghy and Michael Jordan both digesting the non fouls Jordan drew practically every trip to the line. The NBA is entertainment, no one wants to see the Pacers/Pistons and Spurs in the Finals again. As much as people bitch and moan nobody watched the NBA when there was parity, people traditionally tune in for rivalries from super squads with legendary players rather.


Thats big time bro, I ‘preciate cha :cheers:

[Mr. Woke]

If Lebron can carry bums to the Finals, why did he leave Cleveland and form super-teams?.. This action confirmed that he infact couldn't carry anyone to the Finals.. The historical record confirms this clearly:

Jordan carried lottery teams (teams that were lottery the prior year) to low seeds and therefore carried bad teams in the playoffs, while Lebron failed to carry lottery teams to low seeds in 04' 05' or 19', so he only had high seeds in the playoffs (good casts relative to conference) - he never actually carried "bums" like people say.. This is confirmed because Gilbert Arenas and Larry Hughes made the 2nd Round in 2005, but then Lebron stole Hughes and beat Arenas in 2006 - so Lebron had a superior cast to his opponent in his first playoffs, and was never carrying bums.. Again, his playoff teams were always high seeds (good casts relative to conference), so he never had to carry his worst teams/bad teams in the playoffs like MJ did..

When Lebron made the 06' Playoffs, he actually had the #4 defense, the East all-star center, a 22/5/5 all-defender acquisition and the future COY - that's more help than the 1st three-peat Bulls.. Then they added all-star Mo Williams in 2009 and then Jamison/Shaq were added to 66-win league favorite in 2010.. aka stacked and expected to win.. The 2010 Cavs had the same-ranked defense as the 1st three-peat Bulls and far more scoring options.

LeBron needed more help in Cleveland, and the front office failed to deliver.

Quit making excuses for pencil pushers lol.

MJ's Bulls were always better than any team that LeBron had in Cleveland.

[Mr. Woke]

Because Lebron doesn’t technically own Klutch, I do think it’s poor sportsmanship but understand the leagues goal is to make money. The Lakers and Lebron James independently generate more revenue for the league than any other entity.

Not dissimilar to Tim Donaghy and Michael Jordan both digesting the non fouls Jordan drew practically every trip to the line. The NBA is entertainment, no one wants to see the Pacers/Pistons and Spurs in the Finals again. As much as people bitch and moan nobody watched the NBA when there was parity, people traditionally tune in for rivalries from super squads with legendary players rather.

Quit being a bitch ass hater.

It's not poor sportsmanship at all. He doesn't own Klutch at all.

[SaintzFury13]

We all hated the super-team idea at first but now everyone has accepted it and argues on it's behalf - so people are just dumb lapdogs - Lebron decided to team up and only KD had the smarts or stones to do anything about it

Lebron's super-teams were so unfair from 2011-2016, that KD finally said F*CK THAT... i'm not gonna let this bitch cheat and collude his way to a better legacy

In what way was LeBron joining the Cavaliers in 2014 cheating?

[PP34Deuce]

Lebron has found the gray area and that doesn't come without his immense talent and star power.

Most people would say Rich does in fact run Klutch day to day which protects this from being illegal. The gray area is Lebron recruits (Which as a player, you can't be penalized) and his money started the firm. Lebron is basically a "booster" while being a professional athlete. He can't get in trouble.

Most billionaires, especially in pro sports or entertainment found a gray area most couldn't figure out or attain.

It's insanely smart because once Lebron retires, he already knows the top 6th graders and also has loops through his basketball camps and people. Lebron is going to be highly successful mogul in sports representation.

[NBAGOAT]

Lebron has found the gray area and that doesn't come without his immense talent and star power.

Most people would say Rich does in fact run Klutch day to day which protects this from being illegal. The gray area is Lebron recruits (Which as a player, you can't be penalized) and his money started the firm. Lebron is basically a "booster" while being a professional athlete. He can't get in trouble.

Most billionaires, especially in pro sports or entertainment found a gray area most couldn't figure out or attain.

It's insanely smart because once Lebron retires, he already knows the top 6th graders and also has loops through his basketball camps and people. Lebron is going to be highly successful mogul in sports representation.

Think it’s common knowledge he wants to own a nba team like Jordan eventually