Jon Gruden just got canceled

[Doomsday Dallas]

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RIP Jon Gruden.

you will be missed.

[bladefd]

There were other emails that New York Times got their hands on and posted an article just a hour ago. Gruden quit right after that.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/11/sports/football/what-did-jon-gruden-say.html

[warriorfan]

Had 6 years left on his contract. Ouch.

[Doomsday Dallas]

There were other emails that New York Times got their hands on and posted an article just a hour ago. Gruden quit right after that.


this is exactly what we need in the NFL right now. More attention to this kind of bull$hit.



Keyshawn Johnson makes his comments at the 1:11 mark. Interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yph23TQYHbk



can't wait to read all the emails of how racist Jon Gruden is.

[bladefd]

this is exactly what we need in the NFL right now. More attention to this kind of bull$hit.



Keyshawn Johnson makes his comments at the 1:11 mark. Interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yph23TQYHbk



can't wait to read all the emails of how racist Jon Gruden is.

Other emails came out where he is trashing gay NFL players, insulting women referee for getting hired, sending photos of nude women (including a couple NFL cheerleaders) to Redskins executive on the official team email account, called Goodell a 'fa*got', trashed players for kneeling during the anthem, etc lol

[DoctorP]

:lol lol at the details of his email and not surprising in the least. Gruden was an unhinged alcoholic and only getting worse during his stint at ESPN. The only reason he was hired was his coaching reputation and white supremacy.

His attitude and sobriety seemed to be improving during his Raiders coaching stint but that's now over :lol

[imdaman99]

Chucky living up to his name

[CelticBaller]

I think it’s more alarming that there’s no privacy anymore

[DoctorP]

I think it’s more alarming that there’s no privacy anymore

Someone paid someone off for those emails. Investigative reporting.

[Chick Stern]

I think it’s more alarming that there’s no privacy anymore
No one should expect privacy with anything electronic.
My standard speech to new employees regarding email is “don’t ever send anything you wouldn’t be comfortable reading out loud in a court of law, and don’t ever send anything you wouldn’t be happy having your grandma read. And I say grandma, not mom, because I want you to be extra conservative.”

[bladefd]

Someone paid someone off for those emails. Investigative reporting.

Until tonight, we only knew of 2 emails, both from the 2011 cba negotiation timeframe so Gruden was able to get away with the excuse that he was angry at the owners/nfl executives during that short negotiation period. He apparently explained that same excuse to the players before yesterday's game. These other leaked emails cover a 7yr period long after the CBA negotiation so Gruden's excuse becomes worthless. His career was over once these other emails came to light tonight in NYT article.

[DoctorP]

Until tonight, we only knew of 2 emails, both from the 2011 cba negotiation timeframe so Gruden was able to get away with the excuse that he was angry at the owners/nfl executives during that short negotiation period. He apparently explained that same excuse to the players before yesterday's game. These other leaked emails cover a 7yr period long after the CBA negotiation so Gruden's excuse becomes worthless. His career was over once these other emails came to light tonight in NYT article.

yea. he's done

[CelticBaller]

No one should expect privacy with anything electronic.
My standard speech to new employees regarding email is “don’t ever send anything you wouldn’t be comfortable reading out loud in a court of law, and don’t ever send anything you wouldn’t be happy having your grandma read. And I say grandma, not mom, because I want you to be extra conservative.”
Yeah I was taught that at my first internship. It’s still oddly intrusive

[tpols]

I think it’s more alarming that there’s no privacy anymore

Anything you've ever said in your entire life can be brought up decades later. Anybody to ever live could be crucified on those premises if you pulled their worst. He mustve pissed somebody higher up off.

[Lakers Legend#32]

He lost the locker room with this.
Can't kick his cracker ass out the door fast enough.

[SouBeachTalents]

I'm not gonna defend all his comments because some of them are not defensible, but people are simply not living in reality if they don't believe men, especially those in the NFL, aren't saying fagggot & pusssy on a regular basis :lol I say those two all the time, and truth be told, fakkit honestly doesn't even mean what the media thinks it does. I've been saying it forever and I never once meant it as a slur against gay people, it's always been to reference someone being extremely lame or uncool. South Park had an episode on this exact same topic, where the characters requested the definition be changed to what I described earlier.

[bladefd]

I'm not gonna defend all his comments because some of them are not defensible, but people are simply not living in reality if they don't believe men, especially those in the NFL, aren't saying fagggot & pusssy on a regular basis :lol I say those two all the time, and truth be told, fakkit honestly doesn't even mean what the media thinks it does. I've been saying it forever and I never once meant it as a slur against gay people, it's always been to reference someone being extremely lame or uncool. South Park had an episode on this exact same topic, where the characters requested the definition be changed to what I described earlier.

I used to use that word "******" too when I was a teenager. In my early 20s, I just stopped automatically. It's not professional or right to use that even if you don't have ill intent so I just stopped. I have not used it even once since I was like 22.

I also recognize now many years later that it can get you into trouble in professional settings - people won't come asking you for your reasoning or to explain yourself. Just avoid the situation altogether in the first place by keeping a clean mouth.

[Mr. Woke]

Being held accountable for your actions/decisions all of sudden means getting cancelled?

:oldlol: Conservatards are such babies.

Cancel culture is not real.

[DoctorP]

I'm not gonna defend all his comments because some of them are not defensible, but people are simply not living in reality if they don't believe men, especially those in the NFL, aren't saying fagggot & pusssy on a regular basis :lol I say those two all the time, and truth be told, fakkit honestly doesn't even mean what the media thinks it does. I've been saying it forever and I never once meant it as a slur against gay people, it's always been to reference someone being extremely lame or uncool. South Park had an episode on this exact same topic, where the characters requested the definition be changed to what I described earlier.

he called the commissioner a fa@@ot. it's over.

[Patrick Chewing]

I think it’s more alarming that there’s no privacy anymore

That and the fact that there are people out there willing to dig and find this stuff and then make it public to ruin someone's career/life.

There's some sort of sick vindication in getting someone canceled. And they say that we're all Americans, united under one flag. No we're not. There are people who want to harm you, and there are those that don't. And the ones that want to harm you are winning.

[Patrick Chewing]

I used to use that word "******" too when I was a teenager. In my early 20s, I just stopped automatically. It's not professional or right to use that even if you don't have ill intent so I just stopped. I have not used it even once since I was like 22.

I also recognize now many years later that it can get you into trouble in professional settings - people won't come asking you for your reasoning or to explain yourself. Just avoid the situation altogether in the first place by keeping a clean mouth.

But you're molding yourself into a different person. You don't have a problem with that? You're changing who you are because society is forcing you to change. You fear speaking in a certain way for fear of being labeled a bigot or by being called out and exposed. If we all acted like you, we would have a vastly different country where people will live in fear of what to say or what to think.

Have you seen the movie Equilibrium? That's where we're headed at this rate.

[bladefd]

But you're molding yourself into a different person. You don't have a problem with that? You're changing who you are because society is forcing you to change. You fear speaking in a certain way for fear of being labeled a bigot or by being called out and exposed. If we all acted like you, we would have a vastly different country where people will live in fear of what to say or what to think.

Have you seen the movie Equilibrium? That's where we're headed at this rate.

It's called growing up and understanding something called kindness. I don't do it out of fear, but do it because it's the ethical thing to do. Don't demean people for being born a certain way (gay in this situation). I have several friends and classmates who are gay. Two of them kept it a secret from everyone back when I knew them out of fear of being laughed at. How do you think those classmates would have felt if they heard me saying it back in my school days? It's freaking ignorant, foolish and embarrassing to even consider. Be kind to people instead of a complete jackass insulting them for something they don't control and are born as.

[Patrick Chewing]

It's called growing up and understanding something called kindness. I don't do it out of fear, but do it because it's the ethical thing to do. Don't demean people for being born a certain way (gay in this situation). I have several friends and classmates who are gay. Two of them kept it a secret from everyone back when I knew them out of fear of being laughed at. How do you think those classmates would have felt if they heard me saying it back in my school days? It's freaking ignorant, foolish and embarrassing to even consider. Be kind to people instead of a complete jackass insulting them for something they don't control and are born as.

Stopped reading after the first sentence. You can be kind, and speak freely. You can be kind, and speak bluntly. You can be kind, and curse. You can be kind, and insult people. It's your actions that define you, not your words.

[DoctorP]

Stopped reading after the first sentence. You can be kind, and speak freely. You can be kind, and speak bluntly. You can be kind, and curse. You can be kind, and insult people. It's your actions that define you, not your words.

yeah and you are a scumbag. kill yourself. :lol

"if i were you i wouldnt feel myself,
if i were you i would kill myself"
-kanye west

[warriorfan]

I used to use that word "******" too when I was a teenager. In my early 20s, I just stopped automatically. It's not professional or right to use that even if you don't have ill intent so I just stopped. I have not used it even once since I was like 22.

I also recognize now many years later that it can get you into trouble in professional settings - people won't come asking you for your reasoning or to explain yourself. Just avoid the situation altogether in the first place by keeping a clean mouth.


Blade stopped saying f.aggot after he realized he is one.

[Patrick Chewing]

Blade stopped saying f.aggot after he realized he is one.

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[Lakers Legend#32]

MAGAS defending Gruden make me sick.
Your frustration should be at Gruden not *cancel culture*.
Gruden put himself and the franchise in this position. This is called accountability (cons would know it as personal responsibility). He should be held accountable for his actions. I don't want a man like him leading a franchise.

[Patrick Chewing]

MAGAS defending Gruden make me sick.
Your frustration should be at Gruden not *cancel culture*.
Gruden put himself and the franchise in this position. This is called accountability (cons would know it as personal responsibility). He should be held accountable for his actions. I don't want a man like him leading a franchise.

Shut up, fagg0t.

[Patrick Chewing]

For the ISH fagg0ts (who we have several of) who say Gruden isn't being canceled, read this article from known anti-White racist, William Rhoden.

https://theundefeated.com/features/gruden-is-gone-now-the-nfl-should-get-rid-of-those-who-enabled-him/


He wants all of Gruden's "enablers" gone/canceled/fired/whatever you want to call it. So if you think this isn't going after people and ruining their lives, you're a ****ing idiot.


It's either think the way we want you to think and say the stuff we want you to say, or we will destroy you. If you think that Rhoden clown hasn't called Whites all sorts of slurs and called homosexuals all sorts of slurs, you're fooling yourself. And because Liberals control the media, they control the outcome. They control what you hear. What you see. How you feel.

[bladefd]

Stopped reading after the first sentence. You can be kind, and speak freely. You can be kind, and speak bluntly. You can be kind, and curse. You can be kind, and insult people. It's your actions that define you, not your words.

You can also be conservative without being a douchebag. It does not seem like you have learned that.

[Charlie Sheen]

I'm not gonna defend all his comments because some of them are not defensible, but people are simply not living in reality if they don't believe men, especially those in the NFL, aren't saying fagggot & pusssy on a regular basis :lol I say those two all the time, and truth be told, fakkit honestly doesn't even mean what the media thinks it does. I've been saying it forever and I never once meant it as a slur against gay people, it's always been to reference someone being extremely lame or uncool. South Park had an episode on this exact same topic, where the characters requested the definition be changed to what I described earlier.

I agree with you, but this is the wrong topic to make that point.

The last dump of his emails was all about him slandering Michael Sam and female refs.

[Patrick Chewing]

You can also be conservative without being a douchebag. It does not seem like you have learned that.

Only douchebag are the f@gs who get offended by words and go out of their way to cancel people.

[DoctorP]

If you really think about it Gruden didn't get cancelled. He just resigned cause his ass was going to get fired for calling the commish the F word. This was a standard firing that leaked to the press.

[bladefd]

Only douchebag are the f@gs who get offended by words and go out of their way to cancel people.

That wasn't the only reason though. You are being intentionally disingenuous. Gruden trashed football players for being gay, including one of his own players whom he talked highly of publicly then trashed privately in these emails for being gay. That's not okay, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

There was zero chance he was going to last after this latest trove of emails leaked publicly through the NYT.

[Nanners]

This is so gay... cancelling someone because they made offensive comments in private emails they sent ~5-10 years ago is a new low for the woke shitlibs that have taken over this country.

He should use the Joy Ann Reid defense and claim that all these emails were written by the same time travelling russian hackers who wrote all the homophobic rants on her blog, maybe MSNBC or CNN will give him a job.

RIP in peace Gruden.

[Lakers Legend#32]

There is a large percentage of Raiders fans who only are fans of the colors and the logo. They are clueless what it means to be a Raiders fan. They are clueless why Chucky's words hurt so much for an organization that has been groundbreaking in terms of diversity and inclusiveness.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Shut up, fagg0t.

That's all you got? No wonder you blocked me. P#ssy.

[bladefd]

There are rumors that the nfl shifted the focus to gruden intentionally by leaking these emails to protect Dan Snyder and potentially other owners/nfl office executives who may have done the same (no other emails got released except those concerning gruden). Nfl also gets to keep dealing with demaurice Smith, who was re-affirmed as head of nflpa yesterday (hint: Smith might be corrupt and giving the owners favorable treatment. Gruden email makes Smith look like a victim deserving of benefit of the doubt).

Good article here on it:
Yahoo! Sports: NFL: Jon Gruden firing result of investigation leak.
https://sports.yahoo.com/the-nfl-denies-leaking-offensive-jon-gruden-emails-but-it-definitely-benefited-from-them-becoming-public-034826099.html

Gruden still looks bad in this, but there might also be a lot more bad apples being protected including possibly even espn with the Monday night football contract

[Nanners]

"Dumboriss Smith has lips the size of Michelin tires."

When the media call Gruden a racist, this comment (an obvious joke made in private to a friend) is what they are talking about.

[Nanners]

There are rumors that the nfl shifted the focus to gruden intentionally by leaking these emails to protect Dan Snyder and potentially other owners/nfl office executives who may have done the same

Gruden still looks bad in this, but there might also be a lot more bad apples being protected including possibly even espn with the Monday night football contract

The broken clock gets the time right! Dan Snyder is one of the biggest scumbags in pro sports, if anyone is deserving of cancelling its him and he would happily throw every person he has ever met under the bus to protect himself.

The majority of owners/execs have said/done as bad or worse than Gruden... imagine if someone like Jim Irsay had their private conversations made public :oldlol:

[Patrick Chewing]

That's all you got? No wonder you blocked me. P#ssy.

I blocked you cause you're an idiot. You have the IQ of a child with Down's syndrome. Anyone who reads your shit just gets dumber. And you'd never dare call me a p*ssy to my face, fagg0t.

[Patrick Chewing]

That wasn't the only reason though. You are being intentionally disingenuous. Gruden trashed football players for being gay, including one of his own players whom he talked highly of publicly then trashed privately in these emails for being gay. That's not okay, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

There was zero chance he was going to last after this latest trove of emails leaked publicly through the NYT.

You don't see a problem with private emails being made public? Emails that were sent years ago? This is a hit job against Gruden plain and simple.

The issue isn't what Gruden said, it's how no one is safe from being torn down. Everyone on here (including you) has sent a nasty email or said something nasty about someone or a group of people and it's our God-given right to do and say as we please. But when someone goes out of their way to expose you and bring you down, that in itself is the bigger travesty.

Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.

[imdaman99]

The truth is that there's dirt on everyone out there. He must have pissed off or burned bridges with someone that was holding this over his head for the last 10 years. The shit we say on here is anonymous so there is no repercussions. Except maybe that loony bignbafan dude.

[Patrick Chewing]

The truth is that there's dirt on everyone out there. He must have pissed off or burned bridges with someone that was holding this over his head for the last 10 years. The shit we say on here is anonymous so there is no repercussions. Except maybe that loony bignbafan dude.

I know the true identify of a few of you, but I would never stoop to such levels. I would much rather confront you while you're waiting in line for coffee and tap you on the shoulder and say hey, it's me Patrick Chewing from Insidehoops. You want to run your mouth now??

[Nanners]

The truth is that there's dirt on everyone out there. He must have pissed off or burned bridges with someone that was holding this over his head for the last 10 years. The shit we say on here is anonymous so there is no repercussions. Except maybe that loony bignbafan dude.

The shit we say here is not really anonymous, the admins have the IPs associated with each account, and these IPs are connected to names and addresses.

Between covid shutdowns/mandates, the woke mobs, and automation, almost everyones job is at risk these days... try to find a way to make yourself uncancelable

[bladefd]

The broken clock gets the time right! Dan Snyder is one of the biggest scumbags in pro sports, if anyone is deserving of cancelling its him and he would happily throw every person he has ever met under the bus to protect himself.

The majority of owners/execs have said/done as bad or worse than Gruden... imagine if someone like Jim Irsay had their private conversations made public :oldlol:

Dan Snyder has refused to sell the team, and the nfl has not pushed him out. That means he has damning material on the other owners/nfl executives that he is basically blackmailing the nfl with. I wish the fbi would investigate these fools.

It still does not excuse Gruden though. All it means is he is the fall guy and the actual well is much deeper than simply gruden & goes much further up the ranks. He is just the tip of the iceberg.

[bladefd]

You don't see a problem with private emails being made public? Emails that were sent years ago? This is a hit job against Gruden plain and simple.

The issue isn't what Gruden said, it's how no one is safe from being torn down. Everyone on here (including you) has sent a nasty email or said something nasty about someone or a group of people and it's our God-given right to do and say as we please. But when someone goes out of their way to expose you and bring you down, that in itself is the bigger travesty.

Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.

The only problem I have is that the nfl is hiding the other 650,000 emails. Expose them all. I don't give a sh!t if it's an owner or executive or player or whomever. This is a professional setting - I expect professionalism. The nfl has a right to these emails since they were sent on their servers using official team email accounts.

And no, I have never sent these sorts of emails to anyone who I worked with in a professional setting, including even a couple volunteer organizations I have done work for. It has always been professional because that is what I have been taught since I was young. There is one way to communicate with friends/family and another way to communicate with co-workers, classmates, etc.

And these emails cover 2011 to 2018 for gruden so it's not just 10 years ago but rather a much longer period of multiple years. This is a pattern of behavior.

We don't know how far back the non-gruden emails concern, but they are on official email. These are not private email accounts. This may be a pattern of behavior across the nfl. Gruden is a part of the issue. A much bigger issue that encompasses a huge part of the nfl, bigger part than we realize.

[Patrick Chewing]

The only problem I have is that the nfl is hiding the other 650,000 emails. Expose them all. I don't give a sh!t if it's an owner or executive or player or whomever. This is a professional setting - I expect professionalism. The nfl has a right to these emails since they were sent on their servers using official team email accounts.

And no, I have never sent these sorts of emails to anyone who I worked with in a professional setting, including even a couple volunteer organizations I have done work for. It has always been professional because that is what I have been taught since I was young. There is one way to communicate with friends/family and another way to communicate with co-workers, classmates, etc.

And these emails cover 2011 to 2018 for gruden so it's not just 10 years ago but rather a much longer period of multiple years. This is a pattern of behavior.

We don't know how far back the non-gruden emails concern, but they are on official email. These are not private email accounts. This may be a pattern of behavior across the nfl. Gruden is a part of the issue. A much bigger issue that encompasses a huge part of the nfl, bigger part than we realize.

Why expose the emails at all? What benefit does it have at this stage? If no crimes were committed, then exposing emails to show how vile and vulgar some people are serves no purpose. No good comes from it. It only creates further division in my honest opinion.

Sorry, I am the type of person that ones opinions are their own so long as they do not cause harm to other individuals.

[bladefd]

Why expose the emails at all? What benefit does it have at this stage? If no crimes were committed, then exposing emails to show how vile and vulgar some people are serves no purpose. No good comes from it. It only creates further division in my honest opinion.

Sorry, I am the type of person that ones opinions are their own so long as they do not cause harm to other individuals.

It seems the nfl want gruden to be the fall guy and shift attention to him. Go read the post I edited on the previous page where I talk about how it benefits the nfl (you quoted the post before I edited).


There are rumors that the nfl shifted the focus to gruden intentionally by leaking these emails to protect Dan Snyder and potentially other owners/nfl office executives who may have done the same (no other emails got released except those concerning gruden). Nfl also gets to keep dealing with demaurice Smith, who was re-affirmed as head of nflpa yesterday (hint: Smith might be corrupt and giving the owners favorable treatment. Gruden email makes Smith look like a victim deserving of benefit of the doubt).

Good article here on it:
Yahoo! Sports: NFL: Jon Gruden firing result of investigation leak.
https://sports.yahoo.com/the-nfl-den...034826099.html

Gruden still looks bad in this, but there might also be a lot more bad apples being protected including possibly even espn with the Monday night football contract

[Lakers Legend#32]

I blocked you cause you're an idiot. You have the IQ of a child with Down's syndrome. Anyone who reads your shit just gets dumber. And you'd never dare call me a p*ssy to my face, fagg0t.

And yet you unblocked me.
You need me Poopsie.

[Lakers Legend#32]

For the MAGAS, if Gruden only offended Black people he would have been good...

"It was 10 years ago."
"He wasn't an NFL Employee."
"He's always been a great guy around me."

Boy that tune switched real quick.

[tontoz]

Someone in the NFL clearly wanted to get Gruden otherwise the emails wouldn't have been leaked. Have to wonder about the fact that he seemed so comfortable talking like that in emails. Maybe he had a receptive audience.

I have no sympathy for Gruden though. Zero. Setting aside all the slurs when you are dumb enough to trash the commissioner in emails then you are just begging for trouble.

The raiders owner got a lucky break getting out of Grudens contract. Not a good coach and lousy in the draft in addition to being a prick obviously.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Jon Gruden apologizes for leaving Jews out of his offensive emails.

[TheMan]

His team quit on him, made my mediocre Bears look like the '85 Monsters of the Midway last Sunday. He had to quit...

[TheMan]

Why expose the emails at all? What benefit does it have at this stage? If no crimes were committed, then exposing emails to show how vile and vulgar some people are serves no purpose. No good comes from it. It only creates further division in my honest opinion.

Sorry, I am the type of person that ones opinions are their own so long as they do not cause harm to other individuals.

Maybe as a way for the Raiders organization to legally get out of their contract with him?

[Charlie Sheen]

His team quit on him, made my mediocre Bears look like the '85 Monsters of the Midway last Sunday. He had to quit...

The Raiders win in the long run because you still have that loser Nagy as coach. I'm not even a bears fan and i hate that guy :lol

[TheMan]

I used to use that word "******" too when I was a teenager. In my early 20s, I just stopped automatically. It's not professional or right to use that even if you don't have ill intent so I just stopped. I have not used it even once since I was like 22.

I also recognize now many years later that it can get you into trouble in professional settings - people won't come asking you for your reasoning or to explain yourself. Just avoid the situation altogether in the first place by keeping a clean mouth.

That's funny because when I call someone a f*ggot IRL, I mean it exactly as how that slur was intended. That's probably the GOAT insult, to call another man a c*cksucker. Nothing should disgust another straight male more than to be called a degenerate that takes a c*ck into his mouth and ass.

[TheMan]

The Raiders win in the long run because you still have that loser Nagy as coach. I'm not even a bears fan and i hate that guy :lol

Bro, you hate LaRussa, you hate Nagy, is there a coach/manager from a Chicago team you don't hate, lol

[bladefd]

That's funny because when I call someone a f*ggot IRL, I mean it exactly as how that slur was intended. That's probably the GOAT insult, to call another man a c*cksucker. Nothing should disgust another straight male more than to be called a degenerate that takes a c*ck into his mouth and ass.

People are born how they are born. Gayness is not a social construct but biological - I think there is a DNA gene that impacts it. No need to insult people for being born the way they are. Yes, it's not normal but if they don't control it then it is what it is. They don't deserve hate for it.

[Patrick Chewing]

People are born how they are born. Gayness is not a social construct but biological - I think there is a DNA gene that impacts it. No need to insult people for being born the way they are. Yes, it's not normal but if they don't control it then it is what it is. They don't deserve hate for it.

That's not what he's trying to say. Calling your best buddies a "fagg0t" has been around for years. It's a funny insult cause you're not homosexuals. It would be different if we were walking up to a homosexual such as yourself and calling you a "fagg0t" to your face. That's disrespectful, and hardly ever happens. So what's happening now is that we're canceling people based on how we talk to people in our inner circle. Our locker room talk is being judged. If I use that language on a daily basis, then who are you to seek me out and try to ruin my life because of my language and the expletives and derogatory terms I choose to use. What's next? The thought police? You see where this is going? We are creating new rules for society each and every day just to fulfill a personal void that you may have. And you do that by virtue signaling every single chance you get.

[Lakers Legend#32]

So when does Gruden start his new job at FOX News?

[bladefd]

That's not what he's trying to say. Calling your best buddies a "fagg0t" has been around for years. It's a funny insult cause you're not homosexuals. It would be different if we were walking up to a homosexual such as yourself and calling you a "fagg0t" to your face. That's disrespectful, and hardly ever happens. So what's happening now is that we're canceling people based on how we talk to people in our inner circle. Our locker room talk is being judged. If I use that language on a daily basis, then who are you to seek me out and try to ruin my life because of my language and the expletives and derogatory terms I choose to use. What's next? The thought police? You see where this is going? We are creating new rules for society each and every day just to fulfill a personal void that you may have. And you do that by virtue signaling every single chance you get.

We have not seen the exact emails, but Gruden calling Goodell a "f*gg*t" wasn't the only case. Apparently, he trashed some former coach (I think one of the Shanahans) for drafting a gay player. I recall reading he also trashed one of his own players for being gay after publicly complementing. Repeated behavior and in different ways is a red flag.

And no, I'm not gay. Just because I don't know what that term's history is or what it used to mean doesn't make me gay. It's called being respectful and not a total douchebag (like you are). I said it occasionally in my teenage years but only with the childish "-it" ending and never the "-ot" ending.

[Patrick Chewing]

We have not seen the exact emails, but Gruden calling Goodell a "f*gg*t" wasn't the only case. Apparently, he trashed some former coach (I think one of the Shanahans) for drafting a gay player. I recall reading he also trashed one of his own players for being gay after publicly complementing. Repeated behavior and in different ways is a red flag.

And no, I'm not gay. Just because I don't know what that term's history is or what it used to mean doesn't make me gay. It's called being respectful and not a total douchebag (like you are). I said it occasionally in my teenage years but only with the childish "-it" ending and never the "-ot" ending.

You sound like such a dweeb. I bet you're the kind of Liberal with glasses and pink hair. Stop castigating others for how they speak in their inner circles. It's none of your business just like I could care less how you talk and cry among your inner circle of dweebs, I mean friends.

[Charlie Sheen]

Bro, you hate LaRussa, you hate Nagy, is there a coach/manager from a Chicago team you don't hate, lol

Nagy just seems like a dick to work for. He's scapegoated a kicker, bunch of coordinators and a couple qb's to take the pressure off himself.

To answer your question... I liked zenmaster when he became lakers coach :lol

And, I can deliver you one of the greatest compliments in sports... at least you aren't a cubs fan :cheers:

[Lakers Legend#32]

Gruden announced as guest speaker at next year's CPAC conference.

[TheMan]

Nagy just seems like a dick to work for. He's scapegoated a kicker, bunch of coordinators and a couple qb's to take the pressure off himself.

To answer your question... I liked zenmaster when he became lakers coach :lol

And, I can deliver you one of the greatest compliments in sports... at least you aren't a cubs fan :cheers:

:cheers:

[Lakers Legend#32]

MAGAS defending Gruden because they believe all he said.