Nets decide they won't use Kyrie Irving as a part-time player

[insidehoops]

The Nets today said that Kyrie Irving will not play or practice with the team until he is eligible to be a full participant

[Wally450]

Per Shams


[@ShamsCharania] Kyrie Irving will not play or practice with the team until he is full participant, Nets say.

lol. I wonder how long this will go on for.



Nets GM Sean Marks statement on Brooklyn's decision to sit Kyrie Irving until he fulfills NYC vaccination rules:

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1447940772448309258

[Mask the Embiid]

Kyrie has a 0.0001% chance of dying from covid...I just dont get it man...why are they forcing him to get vaxed? They dont force alcoholics to stop drinking....even though they can kill ppl



And even if he does get vaccinated....he can still.....transmit.....the virus



I hope he takes this to court if they try to withhold his money...KD i cant believe you let this happen to your "friend"......over a game...they would of never did this if you didnt give them the OK....unbelievable



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[Phoenix]

Good decision. Now the team can move forward around KD and Harden which frankly is much better chemistry. Harden can drop 25-30 in his sleep while playing PG at an elite level, and KD will give you another 27-28 campaign.

[DoctorP]

Kyrie can now sit out the year and maybe next year and continue his quest to prove the Earth is flat and the Nets don't have to pay him.

Both sides win.

[Kblaze8855]

A guy who is prevented by state law from playing in like 49 of 82 games really isn’t doing you much good. What use is him practicing and limiting the time whoever actually plays in his stead gets with the first team? There are cities he might as well not even travel to. Toronto could give him 6 months in jail if he even left the team hotel as they played without him. They should be paying him 30 million or whatever to play 30 or so minutes a night in 30 away games. I’m not sure Kyries contribution on the floor is worth 2 million dollars an hour of PT. Not for the nets who already have 2 god tier scorers.

On a team in a city without the same rules….ok. He could play all but 5-6 road teams I think. Missing all your home games and a bunch of road ones too?

Thats just bad business. Maaaaaybe keep him tucked away for the playoffs….but if the warriors make it or one of the LA teams it’s possible he’s out the whole finals.

Why pay all that money? To create good will with a guy you can obviously do without from both a personality and basketball standpoint?

That team with Ben Simmons to play point when Harden sits and just focus on D and pushing the tempo would be crazy. Wouldn’t need him to score at all. Just create threes, run the floor hard, guard everyone from 6’2” to 6’10” and stay out of the way.

New York will be the last city in America to drop the Covid rules. I don’t know what good he does under these conditions for a team that doesn’t need any help in the regular season. And getting home Court actually reduces how much he can help in the playoffs anyway.

Seems like he just needs to be elsewhere.

[LAL]

Pro Vaccine bunch & mandates are even worse than Kyrie. What a situation.

[FultzNationRISE]

I think he’s done with basketball tbh

[Manny98]

This is ****ing bullshit, why are they mandating vaccines for healthy individuals

How does Kyrie not getting vaccinated effect anyone :facepalm

[bladefd]

A guy who is prevented by state law from playing in like 49 of 82 games really isn’t doing you much good. What use is him practicing and limiting the time whoever actually plays in his stead gets with the first team? There are cities he might as well not even travel to. Toronto could give him 6 months in jail if he even left the team hotel as they played without him. They should be paying him 30 million or whatever to play 30 or so minutes a night in 30 away games. I’m not sure Kyries contribution on the floor is worth 2 million dollars an hour of PT. Not for the nets who already have 2 god tier scorers.

On a team in a city without the same rules….ok. He could play all but 5-6 road teams I think. Missing all your home games and a bunch of road ones too?

Thats just bad business. Maaaaaybe keep him tucked away for the playoffs….but if the warriors make it or one of the LA teams it’s possible he’s out the whole finals.

Why pay all that money? To create good will with a guy you can obviously do without from both a personality and basketball standpoint?

That team with Ben Simmons to play point when Harden sits and just focus on D and pushing the tempo would be crazy. Wouldn’t need him to score at all. Just create threes, run the floor hard, guard everyone from 6’2” to 6’10” and stay out of the way.

New York will be the last city in America to drop the Covid rules. I don’t know what good he does under these conditions for a team that doesn’t need any help in the regular season. And getting home Court actually reduces how much he can help in the playoffs anyway.

Seems like he just needs to be elsewhere.

Couldn't they just pay him for the games he plays? Don't pay the ones he doesn't play.

His salary is 35mill. Subtract 425k per games missed. Not like the players' union have a case. If kyrie takes the nets to the court over the money he didn't get paid, he would probably lose the argument.

[JohnMax]

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[AirBonner]

This is ****ing bullshit, why are they mandating vaccines for healthy individuals

How does Kyrie not getting vaccinated effect anyone :facepalm

Face it your boi is disposable lolol

[tpols]

Remember folks, its not being forced. Kyrie can go work at a burger king or something. But not corporate, theyre mandating them. They havent mandated the minimum wage workers yet so he'll have to settle for burger flipping.

[DoctorP]

https://c.tenor.com/8Ny03P4VQP8AAAAd/lebron-laugh.gif

:lol

THIS.

[DoctorP]

Kyries still getting paid HALF his salary for sitting at home and posting memes.

Kyrie wins!

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[SouBeachTalents]

So what do they even do with him at this point? He claimed he'd retire if he was ever traded, so it's not like you can even get anything of value back if teams worry he'll carry out that threat. And as Blaze said, the ironic part is they don't even need him to win the title anyway :lol

[Kblaze8855]

Remember folks, its not being forced.


Obviously it isn’t. So long as people choose not to get it and nobody injects it against their will they aren’t being forced. It’s like we forgot what some words mean. There are 150 million of you at this point. If you were being forced there wouldn’t be….any.

[Goldrush25]

I think he’s done with basketball tbh

I am surprised more people don't see it. Kyrie has zero passion for playing basketball, hence his threat of retirement if he gets traded. He's been half committed to the game for two years now, just taking off whenever he wants.

This is kind of like the psychology of suicide by cop. He doesn't have the guts to retire on his own, this way he gets to make it look as if he was forced out.

[Phoenix]

So what do they even do with him at this point? He claimed he'd retire if he was ever traded, so it's not like you can even get anything of value back if teams worry he'll carry out that threat. And as Blaze said, the ironic part is they don't even need him to win the title anyway :lol

Let him sit then let him walk when the time comes. Nobody else is going to want to sign him for the baggage he brings and he's never proven to exactly be a net positive in the W/L column.

I wouldn't be surprised if the last time you saw Kyrie on a NBA court is the last time you ever will.

[Phoenix]

He doesn't have the guts to retire on his own, this way he gets to make it look as if he was forced out.

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[tpols]

Obviously it isn’t. So long as people choose not to get it and nobody injects it against their will they aren’t being forced. It’s like we forgot what some words mean. There are 150 million of you at this point. If you were being forced there wouldn’t be….any.

Its a slow chokehold. If you tell somebody they can't have a job and can't buy food or pay for a place to live it is being forced.

You're playing a silly semantic game. If someone put a gun to my head and told me I can do what they say and live, or refuse and die technically I still have a choice. Doesnt mean it isn't being forced for me to go one way.

[FultzNationRISE]

I am surprised more people don't see it. Kyrie has zero passion for playing basketball, hence his threat of retirement if he gets traded. He's been half committed to the game for two years now, just taking off whenever he wants.

This is kind of like the psychology of suicide by cop. He doesn't have the guts to retire on his own, this way he gets to make it look as if he was forced out.

Yep, and I also think he believed all the “do it on my own as the alpha closer” stuff Kobe gassed him with, until he got to Boston and realized he couldnt do it on his own and WAS going to get exposed. So he had elective surgery before the playoffs, eventually forced his way out of the Boston situation where he was the man, joined KD but when he realized the BEST case scenario was to win another chip as Robin, he started sabotaging his own career.

He has too much pride to ride shotgun, but he just aint built to be the driver.

He doesnt wanna face it and doesnt want other people to know it.

[ralph_i_el]

Its a slow chokehold. If you tell somebody they can't have a job and can't buy food or pay for a place to live it is being forced.

You're playing a silly semantic game. If someone put a gun to my head and told me I can do what they say and live, or refuse and die technically I still have a choice. Doesnt mean it isn't being forced for me to go one way.

Ok, so our system of private ownership of resources is forcing hundreds of millions of people into labor, because if they don't, they can't buy food or pay for a place to live. Welcome to the team, fellow socialist!

[Kblaze8855]

Its a slow chokehold. If you tell somebody they can't have a job and can't buy food or pay for a place to live it is being forced.

You're playing a silly semantic game. If someone put a gun to my head and told me I can do what they say and live, or refuse and die technically I still have a choice. Doesnt mean it isn't being forced for me to go one way.

Did you really use the word “silly” while comparing murder to not being allowed into a sports arena?

[SouBeachTalents]

Yep, and I also think he believed all the “do it on my own as the alpha closer” stuff Kobe gassed him with, until he got to Boston and realized he couldnt do it on his own and WAS going to get exposed. So he had elective surgery before the playoffs, eventually forced his way out of the Boston situation where he was the man, joined KD but when he realized the BEST case scenario was to win another chip as Robin, he started sabotaging his own career.

He has too much pride to ride shotgun, but he just aint built to be the driver.

He doesnt wanna face it and doesnt want other people to know it.
This is actually a really great hypothesis. As talented as Kyrie is, he is NOT a franchise player, or someone capable of leading a team to the title as their best player. He absolutely wanted to prove that he could win as the top dog a la Kobe, but he is simply not that caliber of player, esp when you factor in leadership & health where he is as lacking for a star player as they come.

[tpols]

Cutting off everybody's ability to make money and buy food and shelter is murder. Biden is issuing mandates for the 100 million of "us" left which was announced on September 9th.

Why are you playing dumb Kblaze?

[GrayGoat]

Cutting off everybody's ability to make money and buy food and shelter is murder. Biden is issuing mandates for the 100 million of "us" left which was announced on September 9th.

Why are you playing dumb Kblaze?

He does have the ability to make money. Just not in the nba

[90sgoat]

Kyrie should go to Mavs.

I believe Texas governor made it illegal to require vaccination for a job.

Kyrie would also get his good mood back playing with a chill group there, that cares less about keeping up apperances.

It would be a perfect fit, Kyrie has literally played the same role with Lebron.

Make it happen Cuban.

[90sgoat]

Good decision. Now the team can move forward around KD and Harden which frankly is much better chemistry. Harden can drop 25-30 in his sleep while playing PG at an elite level, and KD will give you another 27-28 campaign.

Lol Harden and KD.

What an unlikeable bunch.

[Kblaze8855]

Cutting off everybody's ability to make money and buy food and shelter is murder. Biden is issuing mandates for the 100 million of "us" left which was announced on September 9th.

Why are you playing dumb Kblaze?

So a grocery store requiring you to use curbside pickup or delivery is murdering you?

The 100+ million unvaccinated people are about to be homeless because a few(very few) landlords set rules they chose not to follow?

Shall we make a bet that the homeless population does not in fact reach 100 million? Or do you actually know better and keep playing dumb?

Absolutely nothing happening here is even worth talking about from a freedom perspective. Soft ass society right now. Being murdered by curbside pickup, not attending the Keith Sweat show, and having to get tested for your job….at certain jobs.

How will society continue….

[Goldrush25]

Yep, and I also think he believed all the “do it on my own as the alpha closer” stuff Kobe gassed him with, until he got to Boston and realized he couldnt do it on his own and WAS going to get exposed. So he had elective surgery before the playoffs, eventually forced his way out of the Boston situation where he was the man, joined KD but when he realized the BEST case scenario was to win another chip as Robin, he started sabotaging his own career.

He has too much pride to ride shotgun, but he just aint built to be the driver.

He doesnt wanna face it and doesnt want other people to know it.

Yeah good synopsis. Don't we all know the guy that says "oh well I COULD'VE gone to medical school, I could've gone to law school, I could've done this or that but blah blah." It's more palatable to the mind to sandbag yourself and say what you could've done if tried, than to actually try 100% and have that the reality that you're not as good as you thought you were solidified for the world to see.

But damn, being a all-star level player and NBA champion that's made millions is a better career than the majority of NBA players. So he's not Kobe or even a #1 on a championship team. Nothing to be ashamed of. He let all of those people that told him that he won Lebron a title pump his head up. Kyrie is a lost, confused dude.

[Xiao Yao You]

smart move

[FultzNationRISE]

Ok, so our system of private ownership of resources is forcing hundreds of millions of people into labor, because if they don't, they can't buy food or pay for a place to live. Welcome to the team, fellow socialist!

:lol

Lovely how you dont dare criticize the establishment vax mandate, which is a real life example of the economic oppression you rail against, yet continue beating the drum of vague generalities about unfair capitalism etc.

Wanna keep those economic options open for yourself with the people in charge, while still doing your Robin Hood public role playing.

Such delicious hypocrisy.

Fantastic. :cheers:

[ralph_i_el]

:lol

Lovely how you dont dare criticize the establishment vax mandate, which is a real life example of the economic oppression you rail against, yet continue beating the drum of vague generalities about unfair capitalism etc.

Wanna keep those economic options open for yourself with the people in charge, while still doing your Robin Hood public role playing.

Such delicious hypocrisy.

Fantastic. :cheers:

It's a real life example of collective action against a societal issue.

If you're really pissed about this, go out and organize folks and overthrow your state government. I'll be right there shoulder to shoulder with you, in a hazmat suit.

All I'm saying is, losing your job over the vax wouldn't be much of an issue if you didn't have to worry about paying rent. I didn't want to get it either, I don't like needles and I don't ever get sick. It will reduce the chance of you getting covid. I would reduce your ability to spread it. Vaccines have knocked out horrible diseases in the past and we don't even worry about them now (Smallpox? Polio?)

What do you think George Washington would have done to soldiers who refused smallpox inoculation at Valley Forge?

[FultzNationRISE]

So ultimately who has the rights, workplace or government?

When it comes to minimum wages, vax mandating, hiring discrimination etc.

Is there a particular principle one should rely on, or just flip flop based on what wealthy mainstream media corps tell us for each given example?


I feel like we got a lot of people here who conveniently happen to view each example differently, and even more “conveniently” always happen to be aligned with an approved mainstream view of the issues.

[ralph_i_el]

So ultimately who has the rights, workplace or government?

When it comes to minimum wages, vax mandating, hiring discrimination etc.

Is there a particular principle one should rely on, or just flip flop based on what wealthy mainstream media corps tell us for each given example?

The owners of your workplaces are the owners of the government. It's not two different sides. We live under the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.

I don't really care about the whole "Big government vs. Little government" ideological spat. I care what class the government is beholden to.

[Dagoods]

I always believed he was a bonafide little b!tch and I was right. No wonder he drove LBJ crazy. What's so brilliant about him? All I keep hearing is that he's a deep thinker and so forth....BOLLOCKS!
There's nothing bright about this bloody dunce! Congrats, you daft pr!ck you just gifted Team Klutch Sports yet another title. Just SHUT UP and DRIBBLE (and I don't mean that in a racist way) and stop being such a poopy head!!!

[tpols]

So a grocery store requiring you to use curbside pickup or delivery is murdering you?

The 100+ million unvaccinated people are about to be homeless because a few(very few) landlords set rules they chose not to follow?

Shall we make a bet that the homeless population does not in fact reach 100 million? Or do you actually know better and keep playing dumb?

Absolutely nothing happening here is even worth talking about from a freedom perspective. Soft ass society right now. Being murdered by curbside pickup, not attending the Keith Sweat show, and having to get tested for your job….at certain jobs.

How will society continue….

What about when they require vaccination ID for delivery sign off? Or you can't even go into a grocery store (or any indoor facility)? You don't believe that's an extreme level of coercion and force? Not allowed inside any building without injection certification? Its already happening in some of the biggest cities in our country.

As far as landlords setting rules the point just whooshed over your head. If you cant make money you cant pay rent and thus lose your housing. They don't need landlords to do anything to apply that chokehold.

The only people that are soft are people that bent over to all these lies and lacked foresight to see where this whole situation is headed and what its about.

And you still think its about a concert lmao.

[FultzNationRISE]

If an employer can mandate vax, can they also decide on a minimum wage? Or hire based on race?

“Well uhh no but but but but the covids, gotta get a vax for the covids, but just feel the bern too bc orange man, scary orange man u cant be a racist, bc covid scaring me and living wage, media always tell me what is right, im a good and smart on the right side, i hate the orange and he colluded with russia but business has its own rights for the covid but biden needs to make minimum wage law”


/typical soyboys

[Kblaze8855]

So ultimately who has the rights, workplace or government?

When it comes to minimum wages, vax mandating, hiring discrimination etc.

Is there a particular principle one should rely on, or just flip flop based on what wealthy mainstream media corps tell us for each given example?


I don’t think anyone should take their “team” side on everything. It’s hard to take a good look and think one way about the wide range of issues facing the world.

I for one have never been that worried about minimum wage increases. I’ve always said low pay exists because people accept it. I must have said on here 100 times that if people won’t flip burgers for 9 dollars a business would pay more or close. And look what has happened. People won’t work shitty jobs anymore and wages are rising by necessity.

People talking about unemployment clearly aren’t on the ground level. People are flat out quitting and not being eligible and don’t care. Doing gig work. Starting their own business. All it ever took to raise wages was a refusal to accept bad pay.

As with most things it just depends on how you look at it.

[hold this L]

This is ****ing bullshit, why are they mandating vaccines for healthy individuals

How does Kyrie not getting vaccinated effect anyone :facepalm

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[FultzNationRISE]

The owners of your workplaces are the owners of the government. It's not two different sides. We live under the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.

I don't really care about the whole "Big government vs. Little government" ideological spat. I care what class the government is beholden to.

Yes but as a society we cede some level of lawmaking to government officials, thats a requirement for any basically developed civilization. The way we keep leaders in check is by having a Constitution their laws cant violate.

Are wage laws and discrimination laws etc constitutionally under the government’s jurisdiction? If yes, then gov should also protect free speech and health privacy rights for workers. Otherwise it should be up to business to hire, pay, fire, and mandate as they please.

If youre just picking and choosing based on personal preference, it comes off pretty phony.

[Kblaze8855]

What about when they require vaccination ID for delivery sign off? Or you can't even go into a grocery store (or any indoor facility)? You don't believe that's an extreme level of coercion and force? Not allowed inside any building without injection certification? Its already happening in some of the biggest cities in our country.

As far as landlords setting rules the point just whooshed over your head. If you cant make money you cany pay rent and thus lose your housing. They don't need landlords to do anything to apply that chokehold.

The only people that are soft are people that bent over to all these lies and lacked foresight to see where this whole situation is headed and what its about.

And you still think its about a concert lmao.

You’re being absolutely nothing more than a global warming alarmist. Make up a bunch of idiotic doomsday scenarios to win an argument normal people don’t even take serious.

They are not gonna have unvaccinated people starve to death. You’re gonna cry for a year or two of being absolutely fine but annoyed.

Disagree all you like. You’re gonna watch me be right just like the climate change doom sayers.

All you have are laughable scenarios that will never happen. Keep posting random examples the next few months. The unvaccinated will continue to eat, work, and live. There will be fewer of you sure….but not because Biden starved you to death not letting instacart drop off your groceries(which is already non contact unless you have age restricted items). It will be because many of you will be inconvenienced into getting the shot.

Inconvenience will work so well force isn’t required. Making spoiled Americans inconvenience themselves will get you 200 million easy.

[Kblaze8855]

If an employer can mandate vax, can they also decide on a minimum wage? Or hire based on race?

“Well uhh no but but but but the covids, gotta get a vax for the covids, but just feel the bern too bc orange man, scary orange man u cant be a racist, bc covid scaring me and living wage, media always tell me what is right, im a good and smart on the right side, i hate the orange and he colluded with russia but business has its own rights for the covid but biden needs to make minimum wage law”


/typical soyboys


These “But doesnt that mean….” arguments are always weird to me regardless of the subject. All pointing out the hypocrisy of the other side does is point out the hypocrisy of the person making the argument in the process. The anti mask people saying a business owner shouldn’t be able to make them wear a mask on his property or leave while also trying to stand up for his right to enforce his own rules and desires in other ways is just as conflicted as your opposing example.

Its just like sports talk. “But doesnt that mean….” always makes both sides look like idiots because the person talking has to either admit his own conflict or that he doesn’t have a real point.

[tpols]

Not being allowed into any place of business or being fired isn't an inconvenience. Its extreme coercion. Being a gig worker or private vendor won't work because facilities require those people to be injected as well to do business in their space.

Yea... we should have to be confined to our homes and rely on instacart to live but this isn't about freedom. Some real clown shit.

[j3lademaster]

Kyrie already won in life. Dude should just pursue his passions outside of basketball. Be happy.

[tpols]

Not being allowed into any place of business or being fired isn't an inconvenience. Its extreme coercion. Being a gig worker or private vendor won't work because facilities require those people to be injected as well to do business in their space.

Yea... we should have to be confined to our homes and rely on instacart to live but this isn't about freedom. Some real clown shit.

To take it further on my point, Austrailia has been under extreme lockdown military and police enforced, for months. You can't even leave your house without answering to armed authorities.


https://youtu.be/h2_6X0ld4g4

Kblaze:



This isn't about freedom. Its about a Tim McGraw concert. Y'all soft.

[Kblaze8855]

You will neither be confined to your home nor forced to order groceries(an absurd thing to complain about anyway…talk about first world problems).

Like I said feel free to make up shit about the sky falling. I’ll get back to you in a few months when you still aren’t vaccinated and aren’t dead.

[FultzNationRISE]

These “But doesnt that mean….” arguments are always weird to me regardless of the subject. All pointing out the hypocrisy of the other side does is point out the hypocrisy of the person making the argument in the process. The anti mask people saying a business owner shouldn’t be able to make them wear a mask on his property or leave while also trying to stand up for his right to enforce his own rules and desires in other ways is just as conflicted as your opposing example.

Its just like sports talk. “But doesnt that mean….” always makes both sides look like idiots because the person talking has to either admit his own conflict or that he doesn’t have a real point.

What conflict am I admitting??

What hypocrisy are you seeing in my views?

You're right there are always hypocrites on both sides. But if you can't pinpoint how I myself am/have been hypocritical, then that criticism doesnt apply and doesn't discount the question I've posed.

[Kblaze8855]

I actually don’t mean you specifically. You have gone through so many names I can barely remember your specific takes over the years. My issue is with the concept. And like I said I mean on all subjects. On this particular one I recall many times reading someone do the “Oh yea….and they should be able to serve who they want as well right?” argument when talking about business owners having the right to enforce a dress code. People who call it discriminatory to not serve them without a mask but actually favor allowing discrimination. Just a tough line to walk.

Like I said I don’t remember if it’s you to be specific. I do remember some specific people but no need to involve them if they aren’t here to defend themselves.

[bison]

The NBA stood up for its players during the BLM protests but now turns their back on players for exercising medical rights. Goes to show NBA will just take whatever position is politically expedient at the moment. Sean Marks is a mark ass bitch for not standing up for his players and demand NBA/NYC drop their idiotic and useless mandates.

[DoctorP]

The NBA stood up for its players during the BLM protests but now turns their back on players for exercising medical rights. Goes to show NBA will just take whatever position is politically expedient at the moment. Sean Marks is a mark ass bitch for not standing up for his players and demand NBA/NYC drop their idiotic and useless mandates.

NBA can't fight state law. No matter how spoiled it's players want to act. :cry::cry::cry:

Kyrie is getting half his money, what's the problem?

[Kblaze8855]

The NBA stood up for its players during the BLM protests but now turns their back on players for exercising medical rights. Goes to show NBA will just take whatever position is politically expedient at the moment. Sean Marks is a mark ass bitch for not standing up for his players and demand NBA/NYC drop their idiotic and useless mandates.


You think whoever makes those calls in New York even knows who Sean Marks is?

New York doesn’t give two ****s what anyone on the nets thinks about anything.

[Proctor]

https://c.tenor.com/QGPGNd875HEAAAAC/spurs-patty.gif

Don't need the POS.

[ArbitraryWater]

Obviously it isn’t. So long as people choose not to get it and nobody injects it against their will they aren’t being forced. It’s like we forgot what some words mean. There are 150 million of you at this point. If you were being forced there wouldn’t be….any.

If you take away the basis to live, its forced.

Thats not the case here.

But your remark on the definition of the word is obviously false.

If unvaccinated people can‘t enter supermarkets or hospitals anymore, they‘re obviously getting forced.

Call it passively forced, if you want to.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Harden turned down the contract extension this offseason, Irving doesn't even want to play.

Sounds like these two want nothing to do with each other and the only thing in common between them is they are friends with Kevin Durant. Harden's body language was always terrible when Irving had the ball in his hands.

Durant should be a leader and put them in their place. Oh well, harden\durant vs george\kawhi is more equal anyway, Irving just makes it a cheat team.

[Kblaze8855]

If you take away the basis to live, its forced.

Thats not the case here.

But your remark on the definition of the word is obviously false.

If unvaccinated people can‘t enter supermarkets or hospitals anymore, they‘re obviously getting forced.

Call it passively forced, if you want to.


I call it what it is.

Nothing people are forced to do results in 100+ million in a country choosing not to do it.

The exaggeration of inconvenience grows by the day.

[8Ball]

Kyrie needs to dig his heels in further and contemplate possibly retiring or sitting out entire year.

Don't give in.

[ScottieQuitting]

Obviously it isn’t. So long as people choose not to get it and nobody injects it against their will they aren’t being forced. It’s like we forgot what some words mean. There are 150 million of you at this point. If you were being forced there wouldn’t be….any.

You’re being an obtuse idiot.

Yes, superficially they’re not literally being forced. They’re doing it passive aggressively, by not allowing you to do normal societal functions or hold certain jobs, in this case a socialist, I mean communist, I mean democratic state of New York won’t allow Kyrie Irving to play professional basketball within the state without the vaccine.

That is unconstitutional.

But it was what you racially obsessed, SJW, pandering sheep people nut jobs got conned into.

You now live in Communist China. Congrats on being a socialist.

[FultzNationRISE]

I actually don’t mean you specifically. You have gone through so many names I can barely remember your specific takes over the years. My issue is with the concept. And like I said I mean on all subjects. On this particular one I recall many times reading someone do the “Oh yea….and they should be able to serve who they want as well right?” argument when talking about business owners having the right to enforce a dress code. People who call it discriminatory to not serve them without a mask but actually favor allowing discrimination. Just a tough line to walk.

Like I said I don’t remember if it’s you to be specific. I do remember some specific people but no need to involve them if they aren’t here to defend themselves.


Are saying I havent made it clear where I stand on Lebron’s package size?



Because I can make it clearer if youd like :crazysam:

[DoctorP]

You’re being an obtuse idiot.

Yes, superficially they’re not literally being forced. They’re doing it passive aggressively, by not allowing you to do normal societal functions or hold certain jobs, in this case a socialist, I mean communist, I mean democratic state of New York won’t allow Kyrie Irving to play professional basketball within the state without the vaccine.

That is unconstitutional.

But it was what you racially obsessed, SJW, pandering sheep people nut jobs got conned into.

You now live in Communist China. Congrats on being a socialist.


Hail Xii!!! Our true leader!!! :roll::roll:

****ing idiots in the suburbs/farms don't understand how a big city works.

[Kblaze8855]

You’re being an obtuse idiot.

Yes, superficially they’re not literally being forced. They’re doing it passive aggressively, by not allowing you to do normal societal functions or hold certain jobs, in this case a socialist, I mean communist, I mean democratic state of New York won’t allow Kyrie Irving to play professional basketball within the state without the vaccine.

That is unconstitutional.

But it was what you racially obsessed, SJW, pandering sheep people nut jobs got conned into.

You now live in Communist China. Congrats on being a socialist.


I literally quit my job rather than follow covid rules I found excessive(specifically wearing a mask I struggled to breathe comfortably in when I had a mostly private office). I was in a hookah bar with dozens of maskless people night before last. But go right ahead with all that. I realize someone who takes issues as individual matters and not left/right team issues is hard to grasp for some.

I don’t give two shits what Kyrie does. But him choosing not to do it obviously removes “force” from the options of how to describe what’s happening. But people simply can’t make points without massive exaggeration.


Be it “Change or die” leftist nonsense or this bullshit the laughable exaggeration is the greatest enemy of winning over the middle. And the extremes are just gonna yell and get nothing done till the end of time.

[SaintzFury13]

You’re being an obtuse idiot.

Yes, superficially they’re not literally being forced. They’re doing it passive aggressively, by not allowing you to do normal societal functions or hold certain jobs, in this case a socialist, I mean communist, I mean democratic state of New York won’t allow Kyrie Irving to play professional basketball within the state without the vaccine.

That is unconstitutional.

But it was what you racially obsessed, SJW, pandering sheep people nut jobs got conned into.

You now live in Communist China. Congrats on being a socialist.

Oh great, more right wing nut job posts from morons. Just what we need on a forum littered with idiots.

[DoctorP]

Oh great, more right wing nut job posts from morons. Just what we need on a forum littered with idiots.

this shithole is wreaking with poor white nazis :lol

they don't know any better. it's their environment. good luck, kids.

[SaintzFury13]

What about when they require vaccination ID for delivery sign off? Or you can't even go into a grocery store (or any indoor facility)? You don't believe that's an extreme level of coercion and force? Not allowed inside any building without injection certification? Its already happening in some of the biggest cities in our country.

As far as landlords setting rules the point just whooshed over your head. If you cant make money you cant pay rent and thus lose your housing. They don't need landlords to do anything to apply that chokehold.

The only people that are soft are people that bent over to all these lies and lacked foresight to see where this whole situation is headed and what its about.

And you still think its about a concert lmao.

Stop being an idiot. If this is truly going to prevent Kyrie from putting food on the table, he has no one to blame but himself for this. He had the option to go somewhere else where he can get away with not being vaccinated. He threw that chance out the window the moment he said he would retire if he was traded, thus making him literally untradeable. He played his hand and now he has to deal with the consequences of his actions. His solution to this problem is a very simple one: swallow his pride, take the vaccine that has been proven to be safe and stop being a fukking nut job. That's literally all he has to do.

I will always be thankful for what he did to bring Cleveland a title but this will ultimately be his own undoing. Congrats to the Brooklyn Nets, you've officially fukked yourself over and are now reduced to having KD and Harden as your two main stars with no depth.

[tpols]

this shithole is wreaking with poor white nazis :lol

they don't know any better. it's their environment. good luck, kids.

African Americans are the least vaccinated demographic in the USA. So much for your Nazi bullshit.

[DoctorP]

African Americans are the least vaccinated demographic. So much for your Nazi bullshit.

:lol if they are black then why are they so right-wing? most right-wingers i see are in the rural parts and suburbs. And if they are self-hating blacks, I guess that's some Chapelle black KKK hilarity.

but yeah there really are some nazi ass white people supporting Trump hardcore in the rural parts and suburbs, ive seen em myself. im not even black and they call me a ni@@er cause they have never seen anything not be prisitine white (im mediterranean). They will call people Jew-face and shit. :lol

The divided states of America :lol

[tpols]

:lol if they are black then why are they so right-wing? most right-wingers i see are in the rural parts and suburbs. And if they are self-hating blacks, I guess that's some Chapelle black KKK hilarity.

but yeah there really are some nazi ass white people supporting Trump hardcore in the rural parts and suburbs, ive seen em myself. im not even black and they call me a ni@@er cause they have never seen anything not be prisitine white (im mediterranean). They will call people Jew-face and shit. :lol

The divided states of America :lol

They aren't right wing retard. The same African American population that overwhelmingly voted democrat is opposed to the mandates. This transcends your little right vs left dichotomy.

[DoctorP]

They aren't right wing retard. The same African American population that overwhelmingly voted democrat is opposed to the mandates. This transcends your little right vs left dichotomy.

oh im talking about the right wing trolls on insidehoops, i guess you're talking about NYC's black population?

:confusedshrug:

[DoctorP]

NYC's black population is very diverse. I don't even know where to start but I do know that deep Queens has a small percentage of vaccination of black residents. Around the Rockaway Beach area. I'm not informed about the other sections. You can't group all NYC blacks together, that would be idiotic.

[FultzNationRISE]

I literally quit my job rather than follow covid rules I found excessive(specifically wearing a mask I struggled to breathe comfortably in when I had a mostly private office). I was in a hookah bar with dozens of maskless people night before last. But go right ahead with all that. I realize someone who takes issues as individual matters and not left/right team issues is hard to grasp for some.

I don’t give two shits what Kyrie does. But him choosing not to do it obviously removes “force” from the options of how to describe what’s happening. But people simply can’t make points without massive exaggeration.


Be it “Change or die” leftist nonsense or this bullshit the laughable exaggeration is the greatest enemy of winning over the middle. And the extremes are just gonna yell and get nothing done till the end of time.

This is my big thing, too. Even though I find a vax mandate more theoretically intrusive than a mask mandate, in terms of personal preference I would much rather get a vax than wear a ridiculous and unbearable mask over my face in perpetuity.

It's amazing to me how many people are willing to basically do any of it and all of it, and don't even really mind it in practice or in theory. They're just extremely comfortable doing whatever theyre told for whatever reason is given. I've never been an "accept authority and dont ask questions" guy, which in reality makes me a tremendous outlier. Also somewhat coincidental considering my parents are EXTREMELY beta in that regard.

Humanity as a collective really is a domesticated species. Trained to perform as directed, and just not concerned with personal autonomy or asking for credible reasons.

Simple, scared, and not particularly motivated by anything.

[DoctorP]

This is my big thing, too. Even though I technically find a vax mandate more theoretically intrusive than a mask mandate, in terms of personal preference I would much rather get a vax than wear a ridiculous and unbearable mask over my face in perpetuity.

It's amazing to me how many people are willing to basically do any of it and all of it, and don't even really mind it in practice or in theory. They're just extremely comfortable doing whatever theyre told for whatever reason is given.

Humanity as a collective really is a domesticated species. It's pretty fascinating.

It's not that big of a deal to many people. People get flu shots yearly on the regular. At the beginning of the pandemic people were begging for a vaccine. Don't believe the hype. Most people are vaxxed around here.

[ralph_i_el]

You’re being an obtuse idiot.

Yes, superficially they’re not literally being forced. They’re doing it passive aggressively, by not allowing you to do normal societal functions or hold certain jobs, in this case a socialist, I mean communist, I mean democratic state of New York won’t allow Kyrie Irving to play professional basketball within the state without the vaccine.

That is unconstitutional.

But it was what you racially obsessed, SJW, pandering sheep people nut jobs got conned into.

You now live in Communist China. Congrats on being a socialist.

Lol what is unconstitutional about it? Which part of the constitution does this violate?

I just don't understand what people's problem is with this vaccine. I've been getting shots my whole life and never even thought about it. I have a huge list of things about our society that make me mad...but this doesn't make the list.

I've been working to unionize my workplace. None of my coworkers are mad about the vaccine. They're falling over themselves to get it so they can go live a normal life (more or less)

[FultzNationRISE]

Edit: Actually Im not gonna spend the whole day arguing for the umpteenth time about this issue.

Good luck everyone with whatever approach youre taking.

As long as youre showin love to LeBulge, I wont mash your face with a tire iron.

Holla.

[Kblaze8855]

This is my big thing, too. Even though I find a vax mandate more theoretically intrusive than a mask mandate, in terms of personal preference I would much rather get a vax than wear a ridiculous and unbearable mask over my face in perpetuity.

It's amazing to me how many people are willing to basically do any of it and all of it, and don't even really mind it in practice or in theory. They're just extremely comfortable doing whatever theyre told for whatever reason is given. I've never been an "accept authority and dont ask questions" guy, which in reality makes me a tremendous outlier. Also somewhat coincidental considering my parents are EXTREMELY beta in that regard.

Humanity as a collective really is a domesticated species. Trained to perform as directed, and just not concerned with personal autonomy or asking for credible reasons.

Simple, scared, and not particularly motivated by anything.


There is a huge segment of the population that does not really fit this narrative to me. Many tens of millions of people look into things just like you do and simply don’t agree with your conclusion. There is nothing alpha or beta about it. They just think you’re wrong. I often hear people talking about the need to question things and look into it with no acknowledgment of the fact that people can question and come to the same conclusion reached by those making the suggestion.

Right now I’m in the yard of the grandfather of this woman im seeing. Bigtime conservative. Country guy but not what you would call a redneck. He’s an emt, former fire fighter, and runs a local event security company. Intelligent, hard working, Republican in a deep red state. Who is vaccinated.

But I keep hearing about liberal sheep and being uninformed and all….

Do you leave no room for normal people who are not idiots simply looking at the situation and deciding you are wrong to be anti vaccine and it’s in the best interest of society?

Are all such people just beta sheep even if they agree with you fundamentally on most issues?

[FultzNationRISE]

There is a huge segment of the population that does not really fit this narrative to me. Many tens of millions of people look into things just like you do and simply don’t agree with your conclusion. There is nothing alpha or beta about it. They just think you’re wrong. I often hear people talking about the need to question things and look into it with no acknowledgment of the fact that people can question and come to the same conclusion reached by those making the suggestion.

Right now I’m in the yard of the grandfather of this woman im seeing. Bigtime conservative. Country guy but not what you would call a redneck. He’s an emt, former fire fighter, and runs a local event security company. Intelligent, hard working, Republican in a deep red state. Who is vaccinated.

But I keep hearing about liberal sheep and being uninformed and all….

Do you leave no room for normal people who are not idiots simply looking at the situation and deciding you are wrong to be anti vaccine and it’s in the best interest of society?

Are all such people just beta sheep even if they agree with you fundamentally on most issues?

50 million is still an outlier among eight billion.

Also, autonomous analysis is absolutely an outlier human trait.

The most successful societies over hundreds of thousand of years would have been those with a few thinkers and a bunch of subordinates. You cant have no thinkers and you cant have all thinkers.

We are evolved from the societies that succeeded in times of constant warfare. The optimal format for security in a primitive society is hierarchical. The thinkers are few, the order takers are many.

It aint an opinion broseph. Im tellin you a facts.

[tpols]

The thinkers are few, the order takers are many.


Yup... but that's why its considered being "normal" to go along with it. So if you question anything you're not normal. Amazing really. But perfectly sensical given one look at history.

Could give a guy direct video evidence of a police state being enforced and they'll say you're making shit up. Yuri told us about this in the 80s.

[Kblaze8855]

Problem is you think the thinkers are the ones who agree with you. My point is what do you do with the many thinkers who don’t? What are those people? Do they even exist in your eyes or when someone thinks…and agrees with the majority…are they no longer a thinker?

What do you call the people talking about alien conspiracies and so on with the vaccine?

Is anyone anti vaccine automatically a thinker?

Do we not acknowledge the idiots on our side?

[tpols]

50 million is still an outlier among eight billion.

Also, autonomous analysis is absolutely an outlier human trait.

The most successful societies over hundreds of thousand of years would have been those with a few thinkers and a bunch of subordinates. You cant have no thinkers and you cant have all thinkers.

We are evolved from the societies that succeeded in times of constant warfare. The optimal format for security in a primitive society is hierarchical. The thinkers are few, the order takers are many.

It aint an opinion broseph. Im tellin you a facts.

Read the comment section of what's going on in Australia. Do you think these people are lying?


https://youtu.be/h2_6X0ld4g4

Kyrie was born in Australia and holds citizenship there.

[ralph_i_el]

We are evolved from the societies that succeeded in times of constant warfare. The optimal format for security in a primitive society is hierarchical. The thinkers are few, the order takers are many.



This is pure ideology. Somebody got all their history from movies.

[insight]

This is ****ing bullshit, why are they mandating vaccines for healthy individuals

How does Kyrie not getting vaccinated effect anyone :facepalm
This is nothing NEW, vaccines have been mandated your entire life. Politicians are exploiting peoples ignorance for political gain. All Americans have immunization records, why are you not questioning polio, measeles, ot tetnus shots?

[bobopenguin]

just trade him for ben simmons already.

[Phoenix]

just trade him for ben simmons already.

Philly isn't going to give away Ben Simmons for a guy who's threatening to retire if traded.

[FultzNationRISE]

This is pure ideology. Somebody got all their history from movies.


:roll:

It’s pure, simple, inconvenient truth boyo.

Why would I unnecessarily adopt that as an ideology? You think I wouldnt love for everyone to be able to sit back and have their bills paid and never have to work and never have to fight? You think Ive got something AGAINST utopia? Why would I??

Reality isnt so comforting. Unless you live in an alternate dimension Im not privy to. We are a product of the survival of the fittest cycle of history, both individually AND socially. The evidence is as obvious and common sense as it gets.

If that makes you squirm... I dunno what to tell ya. You can live in denial and hypocrisy if it contents you. But it doesnt change the truth.

You aint in the peace corps bro. Youre not out working with the poorest people GLOBALLY (one human race right?) and giving up your comforts and luxury to serve their needs. You stay right here on Easy St in good ol USA, “organizing” your union (a tribe of mutual interest) to get from the 90th percentile of global wealth, to the 95th. And earn yourself some esteem and applause in the process.

Sounds pretty competitive, selfish, and self interested to me. Of course youve always got a finger ready to point at someone “even richer” so you can maintain your state of denial and minimize your own privilege.

Hey, we’re both Americans, so Im not gonna fight you over your dependence on the opiate of the masses. As long as you aint fukkin wit me I aint finna fukk wit you. But dont try to impugn my credibility when youre CLEARLY the fraud here.

Capiche?

[bison]

Kyrie is the Muhammad Ali of our generation: his political views were derided during his athletic prime, but history will prove him right.

[ralph_i_el]

How can you impune the credibility of a grown man who spends most of his free hours worshipping his childhood hero? "Opiate of the masses" lol

[bison]

They let magic play with full blown AIDS but won’t let kyrie play cause someone might catch a cold. Weak era.

[ralph_i_el]

They let magic play with full blown AIDS but won’t let kyrie play cause someone might catch a cold. Weak era.

I dunno how they play on the courts in your neighborhood, but full penetration is probably a technical foul in the NBA.

[PP34Deuce]

This is all speculation but I would imagine with KD and Harden the same age, there is a different synergy.

People forget Kyrie came in the league real young. harden and KD are both 32-33 and I believe Harden seriously wants to win a title more than accumulate stats.

I also feel like to be a professional athlete there is a different risk you have and when you are an NBA star, you are not normal. These guys want to be talked about being treated as normal but they aren't. They generate so much money and in turn make a handsome amount of money.

Kyrie is entitled to not be vaccinated so the Nets to me basically are respecting that decision while also not entertaining another complex way for lesser players who may try to play when they want to play.

This isn't about the Vaccine for Brooklyn, it's about setting the tone that being available to play is valuable. All we need is several other players doing what Irving do. Opens up a flood gate. It was the right move.

[tontoz]

Kyrie is the Muhammad Ali of our generation: his political views were derided during his athletic prime, but history will prove him right.

Ali was drafted into the military during a war. Are you really trying to compare that to getting a vaccine?

:roll:

[Axe]

Oof

[DoctorP]

They let magic play with full blown AIDS but won’t let kyrie play cause someone might catch a cold. Weak era.


https://thumbs.gfycat.com/GreatIdioticHydatidtapeworm-size_restricted.gif

j/k its completely different. but i agree the era is soft

[ELITEpower23]

https://c.tenor.com/8Ny03P4VQP8AAAAd/lebron-laugh.gif

:oldlol:

[insight]

They let magic play with full blown AIDS but won’t let kyrie play cause someone might catch a cold. Weak era.
Magic never had AIDS only HIV. Ironicaly many of the same doctors who saved Magic Johnson's life are working on Covid but now these doctors are viewed as the enemy by many antivaxers.

[FultzNationRISE]

Ali was drafted into the military during a war. Are you really trying to compare that to getting a vaccine?

:roll:


Ironic that the unvaxed are now being scorned, harassed, and even isolated by government-order the way american japs were in WWII, or muslims were after 9/11.


Just a matter of public safety, that’s all!

:confusedshrug:

[Bawkish]

if you don't want the vaccine just send it to those countries whose people are suffering because they didn't have enough

[SaintzFury13]

Kyrie is the Muhammad Ali of our generation: his political views were derided during his athletic prime, but history will prove him right.

No it won't.

[ralph_i_el]

Kyrie is the Muhammad Ali of our generation: his political views were derided during his athletic prime, but history will prove him right.

No vaccine ever called you the n word

[ArbitraryWater]

No vaccine ever called you the n word

https://www.picgifs.com/reaction-gifs/reaction-gifs/wtf/wtf083.gif

[ArbitraryWater]

:lol if they are black then why are they so right-wing? most right-wingers i see are in the rural parts and suburbs. And if they are self-hating blacks, I guess that's some Chapelle black KKK hilarity.

but yeah there really are some nazi ass white people supporting Trump hardcore in the rural parts and suburbs, ive seen em myself. im not even black and they call me a ni@@er cause they have never seen anything not be prisitine white (im mediterranean). They will call people Jew-face and shit. :lol

The divided states of America :lol

lol at this clowno

[DoctorP]

lol at this clowno

care to retort? :lol

you have zero credibility and are a troll of massive proportions. hint: thanos lost, your avatar is dumb :lol

[FireDavidKahn]

Kyrie has a 0.0001% chance of dying from covid...I just dont get it man...why are they forcing him to get vaxed? They dont force alcoholics to stop drinking....even though they can kill ppl



And even if he does get vaccinated....he can still.....transmit.....the virus



I hope he takes this to court if they try to withhold his money...KD i cant believe you let this happen to your "friend"......over a game...they would of never did this if you didnt give them the OK....unbelievable



1 starred...

It's a state law...The NBA isn't forcing anything.

[ArbitraryWater]

How can you impune the credibility of a grown man who spends most of his free hours worshipping his childhood hero? "Opiate of the masses" lol

Everyting goes over your head, bro.

[ArbitraryWater]

You will neither be confined to your home nor forced to order groceries(an absurd thing to complain about anyway…talk about first world problems).

Like I said feel free to make up shit about the sky falling. I’ll get back to you in a few months when you still aren’t vaccinated and aren’t dead.

:roll::roll:

Yes, being striped off the right to go to supermarkets is such a first world problem / complaint smh, toughen up softies!

[j3lademaster]

Ironic that the unvaxed are now being scorned, harassed, and even isolated by government-order the way american japs were in WWII, or muslims were after 9/11.


Just a matter of public safety, that’s all!

:confusedshrug:Yeah, not being able to eat at a resturant in some states is totally equivalent to how Japanese-Americans were treated back then. Great analysis and insight. And being unvaxxed is a choice, unlike being whatever race you were born.

[Charlie Sheen]

Yeah, not being able to eat at a resturant in some states is totally equivalent to how Japanese-Americans were treated back then. Great analysis and insight. And being unvaxxed is a choice, unlike being whatever race you were born.

I can't really defend the comparison he made, but the US govt still has the power to do what they did to the Japanese. That's never been taken away.

It doesn't matter if the division is by choice or what someone looks like. It's the same us vs them mechanism that obfuscates our capacity to overcome differences.

[FultzNationRISE]

Yeah, not being able to eat at a resturant in some states is totally equivalent to how Japanese-Americans were treated back then. Great analysis and insight. And being unvaxxed is a choice, unlike being whatever race you were born.

The suspicion, paranoia, hysteria, and segregation is the point.

And your shrill, neurotic meltdown is the proof.

[outofstomach]

The suspicion, paranoia, hysteria, and segregation is the point.

And your shrill, neurotic meltdown is the proof.you’re a pseudo-intellectual, just like every other paranoid conspiracy theorist

[outofstomach]

Remember folks, its not being forced. Kyrie can go work at a burger king or something. But not corporate, theyre mandating them. They havent mandated the minimum wage workers yet so he'll have to settle for burger flipping.

aren’t you a Republitard? aren’t they all for private companies having their own jurisdiction to do what they like with their employees? you should be celebrating this :lol

[FultzNationRISE]

you’re a pseudo-intellectual, just like every other paranoid conspiracy theorist

...he said angrily from his 2,500th gimmick account...

[maxwellcu]

This thread is full top to bottom of the dumbest mother****ing idiots on the face of the earth. I'm not surprised by that. What I'm surprised by is that approximately 0.0 ****ing percent of you aren't illiterate retards.

Here's the facts.

Person A is vaccinated.
Person B isn't vaccinated.

Person C has covid (vaccinated or not).

If person A and person B are both exposed in an equal sense to person C, person B has a FIVE TIMES HIGHER CHANCE of contracting covid than person A.

That is why being vaccinated affects other peoples health.

You dumb ****s. It is incredible that human beings can be this ****ing stupid and useless.

But then again. It isn't.

LOL. ****ing RETARDS.l

[outofstomach]

Ok, so our system of private ownership of resources is forcing hundreds of millions of people into labor, because if they don't, they can't buy food or pay for a place to live. Welcome to the team, fellow socialist!
exactly :lol all for private ownerships and monopolization until they start making mandates and their own laws, NOW all of the sudden it’s a problem cause “mUh RiGhtS” maybe look at a different political party you dogmatic ****ing moron :lol

[outofstomach]

...he said angrily from his 2,500th gimmick account...

kblaze has personally checked my I.P and has confirmed i am not an alt

ironic how you say “gimmick” when your posts are centered around making gay jokes about lebron’s genitalia :applause:

[FultzNationRISE]

Dudes in here LITERALLY CRYING because other grown men are making their own decisions about a vaccine :roll:


LITERALLY CRYING :yaohappy:

[j3lademaster]

This thread is full top to bottom of the dumbest mother****ing idiots on the face of the earth. I'm not surprised by that. What I'm surprised by is that approximately 0.0 ****ing percent of you aren't illiterate retards.

Here's the facts.

Person A is vaccinated.
Person B isn't vaccinated.

Person C has covid (vaccinated or not).

If person A and person B are both exposed in an equal sense to person C, person B has a FIVE TIMES HIGHER CHANCE of contracting covid than person A.

That is why being vaccinated affects other peoples health.

You dumb ****s. It is incredible that human beings can be this ****ing stupid and useless.

But then again. It isn't.

LOL. ****ing RETARDS.lI recall Tontoz spending about 20 pages trying to explain this in an offthecourt thread. He provided diagrams and studies and everything, doubt this post is changing a thing. But nonetheless, good post.

[FultzNationRISE]

kblaze has personally checked my I.P and has confirmed i am not an alt

ironic how you say “gimmick” when your posts are centered around making gay jokes about lebron’s genitalia :applause:


This comment is how we know youre an alt :lol

[outofstomach]

This thread is full top to bottom of the dumbest mother****ing idiots on the face of the earth. I'm not surprised by that. What I'm surprised by is that approximately 0.0 ****ing percent of you aren't illiterate retards.

Here's the facts.

Person A is vaccinated.
Person B isn't vaccinated.

Person C has covid (vaccinated or not).

If person A and person B are both exposed in an equal sense to person C, person B has a FIVE TIMES HIGHER CHANCE of contracting covid than person A.

That is why being vaccinated affects other peoples health.

You dumb ****s. It is incredible that human beings can be this ****ing stupid and useless.

But then again. It isn't.

LOL. ****ing RETARDS.lnah bro my natural immunity will protect me against the foreign virus that has been killing people worldwide, i shouldn’t get vaccinated

[outofstomach]

the western world and its obsession with “individuality” has been devastating

[jbryan1984]

As a life long Cavs fan, I once loved Kyrie. I thought he was going to be Allen Iverson light, but still a big star. I'm grateful for his contributions to giving us a title but I am glad he is no longer on my team. Guy is a total moron.

[r15mohd]

I recall Tontoz spending about 20 pages trying to explain this in an offthecourt thread. He provided diagrams and studies and everything, doubt this post is changing a thing. But nonetheless, good post.

i mean there lies the issue...Tontoz depended on the experts research. he didn't do his own like the anti-vaxxers do :lol:lol

https://i.chzbgr.com/original/9373210624/hDF4501CF/truth

[FireDavidKahn]

i mean there lies the issue...Tontoz depended on the experts research. he didn't do his own like the anti-vaxxers do :lol:lol

https://i.chzbgr.com/original/9373210624/hDF4501CF/truth

I'd push that turd back into her chocolate starfish

:rockon:

[NBAGOAT]

I recall Tontoz spending about 20 pages trying to explain this in an offthecourt thread. He provided diagrams and studies and everything, doubt this post is changing a thing. But nonetheless, good post.

we've seen the basketball talk here lol, shouldnt expect anything good from the politics lol

[FultzNationRISE]

i mean there lies the issue...Tontoz depended on the experts research. he didn't do his own like the anti-vaxxers do



https://www.disabled-world.com/pics/1/old-food-pyramid.jpg

^ From the medical experts

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/6133VgiB-rL.jpg

^ Medical experts

https://dm5migu4zj3pb.cloudfront.net/manuscripts/27000/27539/large/JCI0627539.f1.jpg

^ Medical experts

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81rsVggjpDL.jpg

^Medical experts


"Always trust the goverrment for teh science, because that makes me smart and proves I can understand science too if I repeat what they telld me. I fit in good and I'm better than the science deniers bc I believe what the news man told me and theyre stupid for not doing believing it. I have a g-g-good brain" :hammerhead:

[FultzNationRISE]

Here's one from vice president/geology expert Al Gore:

https://lanceparkin.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/article-2294560-18b8846f000005dc-184_634x427.jpg


"Always gotta believe whatever the news tells me is for smart people! That's how I know I'm smart, when I believe what I'm told without thinking!"

[FultzNationRISE]

https://media.springernature.com/w306/springer-static/cover-hires/book/978-3-319-95801-9

The Nazis were HUGE on science.

Used it to justify just about everything they did.

And the german volk (public) believed whatever the government said, because "if they say it's science it must be true!"

The average shmuck doesnt know better. If you call it science he thinks he's smart for believing it without having a clue what it means :roll:


Some things never change :confusedshrug:

[ralph_i_el]

Here's one from vice president/geology expert Al Gore:

https://lanceparkin.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/article-2294560-18b8846f000005dc-184_634x427.jpg


"Always gotta believe whatever the news tells me is for smart people! That's how I know I'm smart, when I believe what I'm told without thinking!"

Bruh that's a decade old, and wrong. (Edit: I looked up the original source...it's from the Daily Mail, a tabloid for morons, which famously supported Hitler). You even got the graph from a blog explaining that the graph was purposefully misleading (which of course you didn't read).


https://www.google.com/amp/s/climate.nasa.gov/news/2943/study-confirms-climate-models-are-getting-future-warming-projections-right.amp

Don't beat around the bush with memes. Do you think all these different companies that made the vax working together to do some sort of nazi plot on you? Are the nazis in the room with you right now?

[Phoenix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WWYWzc4O5s

'Don't believe that I'm retiring'

So is Kyrie saying the reports about him threatening retirement if Brooklyn trades him are untrue? :confusedshrug:

[SaintzFury13]

Ironic that the unvaxed are now being scorned, harassed, and even isolated by government-order the way american japs were in WWII, or muslims were after 9/11.


Just a matter of public safety, that’s all!

:confusedshrug:

You're an idiot.

[r15mohd]

https://media.springernature.com/w306/springer-static/cover-hires/book/978-3-319-95801-9

The Nazis were HUGE on science.

Used it to justify just about everything they did.

And the german volk (public) believed whatever the government said, because "if they say it's science it must be true!"

The average shmuck doesnt know better. If you call it science he thinks he's smart for believing it without having a clue what it means :roll:


Some things never change :confusedshrug:


apples to oranges comparison in using Nazi practices to validate ill-malice vs a worldwide collaboration to end a pandemic.

biggest difference from the Nazi fear mongering examples are all the the independent studies to covid and the vax throughout the world, with separately funded research by entity or country, all primarily coming to the same conclusion through peer reviews, etc. it's not isolated or controlled to one subset, like the Nazi's did.

[000]

https://media.springernature.com/w306/springer-static/cover-hires/book/978-3-319-95801-9

The Nazis were HUGE on science.

Used it to justify just about everything they did.

And the german volk (public) believed whatever the government said, because "if they say it's science it must be true!"

The average shmuck doesnt know better. If you call it science he thinks he's smart for believing it without having a clue what it means :roll:


Some things never change :confusedshrug:

Everyone is a Nazi nowadays with you. Triggered libtards like you have cheapened the word, just like "racism".

[tontoz]

COVID-19 was the No. 1 killer of Americans age 35 to 54 last month, and No. 2 overall


https://theweek.com/coronavirus/1006016/covid-19-was-the-no-1-killer-of-americans-aged-35-to-54-last-month-and-no-2

[RRR3]

apples to oranges comparison in using Nazi practices to validate ill-malice vs a worldwide collaboration to end a pandemic.

biggest difference from the Nazi fear mongering examples are all the the independent studies to covid and the vax throughout the world, with separately funded research by entity or country, all primarily coming to the same conclusion through peer reviews, etc. it's not isolated or controlled to one subset, like the Nazi's did.
Starface would have supported the Nazis so funny to see him poop his diapers over supposedly Nazi practices.

[Kblaze8855]

:roll::roll:

Yes, being striped off the right to go to supermarkets is such a first world problem / complaint smh, toughen up softies!


In a world where all that means is someone puts it on your doorstep or you sit in the ac while they bring it to your car…yes. It’s absolutely the complaint of a soft ass first worlder with no perspective on what real problems are.

Dude flat out told me it’s murder by denying people food. He’s gonna die…because of curbside pickup. It’s just fear mongering bullshit Because that is what people with a bad argument have to do. Can’t win over anyone with reality. Maybe scare some stupid people though.

And as with every other alarmist…be wrong…then move the goal posts.

[SATAN]

https://theweek.com/coronavirus/1006016/covid-19-was-the-no-1-killer-of-americans-aged-35-to-54-last-month-and-no-2

"They were obese and deserved to die" - The General Board morons

[SATAN]

In a world where all that means is someone puts it on your doorstep or you sit in the ac while they bring it to your car…yes. It’s absolutely the complaint of a soft ass first worlder with no perspective on what real problems are.

Dude flat out told me it’s murder by denying people food. He’s gonna die…because of curbside pickup. It’s just fear mongering bullshit Because that is what people with a bad argument have to do. Can’t win over anyone with reality. Maybe scare some stupid people though.

And as with every other alarmist…be wrong…then move the goal posts.

:applause:

[j3lademaster]

Bruh that's a decade old, and wrong. (Edit: I looked up the original source...it's from the Daily Mail, a tabloid for morons, which famously supported Hitler). You even got the graph from a blog explaining that the graph was purposefully misleading (which of course you didn't read).:roll:

[tpols]

Fans are storming barclays over this.


https://youtu.be/Oi8juWkkCHY

Don't let sell outs and sheep for the elite win.

Remember what this is about.