what heaven is like

[Kobe_Bryant]

as you all know i died back in january of 2020. and yes we all knew something was wrong because we dropped super fast. we couldn't see anything but we knew it was the end. it was like riding a rollercoaster sorta but way scarier. i didn't feel a thing if that makes people feel any better. or worse considering how much people hate me here. i know most of you are wondering what the afterlife is like. we're not in the clouds. we're everywhere at once. we can connect with anything in the universe that has energy flowing through it. believe it or not but energy has memory and can retain our thoughts and experiences. the reason you can't tap into it or read it with machines is because those memories don't belong to you. we have control over our own personal sparks that can go around the world and through people or objects. we can take over your body too sometimes. you know how your dreams are so weird and they have nothing to do with your actual life. its because they're blending with other dead peoples memories so you see yourself in a different place and time.


as for the whole god and religion thing. thats all bogus. theres only past dead people and animals with intelligence that pass on to this realm. it sort of began by accident i guess. i don't know for sure because i'm just guessing like all of you. all i can say is what isn't true.

think of the afterlife like avatar except everything with energy is that tree


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just call me jake sully

[Gohan]

I cried and prayed for you. Also, i know there is a god so ill never entertain the rest of that post

[Axe]

I cried and prayed for you. Also, i know there is a god so ill never entertain the rest of that post
He's lying lol

[000]

as for the whole god and religion thing. thats all bogus.
Based.

[Phoenix]

I'm referring this thread to the CIA, this is mass shooter behavior.

[Chick Stern]

but, is there poon?

[Kobe_Bryant]

but, is there poon?

sometimes when women are sleeping i will pass into their body and feel myself up. its hard to take over peoples bodies when they're awake. we used to do it but people started performing exorcisms and things just get messy

[Phoenix]

In 'your' heaven is Kobe finally ranked ahead of Lebron?

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[Kobe_Bryant]

In 'your' heaven is Kobe finally ranked ahead of Lebron?

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well my heaven is on earth because there is no heaven so yes because most players do have me ahead of lebron

[TheCorporation]

In 'your' heaven is Kobe finally ranked ahead of Lebron?

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:roll: SHUT IT DOWN

[Gohan]

well my heaven is on earth because there is no heaven so yes because most players do have me ahead of lebron

How can heaven be on earth when existence is pain?

[Kobe_Bryant]

How can heaven be on earth when existence is pain?

I dont feel shit unless I take over someone's body. the planet is really nice when there's nothing to worry about. and it's the only place where our energy can experience anything because we use cameras and people's eyeballs to see stuff

[1987_Lakers]

In 'your' heaven is Kobe finally ranked ahead of Lebron?

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:roll:

[Kobe_Bryant]

I can see my life long obsessed critics are swarming again because I am all they think about daily. and for good reason. you see if I wasn't ranked ahead of lebron they would treat me like other obsolete irrelevant legends


because the cold hard truth is I am ranked ahead of lebron by a majority of respected opinions. only no name journalists or message board posters rank lebron ahead of me for their majority because they're mostly made up of incel basement dwelling current super fans or people that never watched a game or picked up a basketball in their life. when the all time greats make their lists I usually end up ahead of lebron and it's about respect. not fan worship or propaganda. there is context to this and I at least have some accomplishments nobody can degrade. lebron has none

[1987_Lakers]

Here are Kobe's finals stats

2000 - 15.6 ppg | 39 fg%

2001 - 24 ppg | 41.5 fg% | 50 TS%

2002 - 27 ppg | 51 fg% | 62 TS%

2004 - 23 ppg | 38 fg% | 46 TS%

2008 - 26 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 50.5 TS%

2009 - 32 ppg | 43 fg% | 52.5 TS%

2010 - 29 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 52.8 TS%



Here are Kobe's game seven stats.

44.2 MPG

22.2 points

FG 38.9%

FT 67.3%

8 RPG

5 APG

1 SPG

1.3 BPG





Here are Kobe's stats when facing elimination.



22.3 PPG

5.8 RPG


3.5 APG

1.3 SPG

1.3 BPG

on a 50.3 TS

and his teams went 9-10 in those games.

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[Axe]

How can heaven be on earth when existence is pain?
When the whole world becomes f*cking pointless, you know.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Here are Kobe's finals stats

2000 - 15.6 ppg | 39 fg%

2001 - 24 ppg | 41.5 fg% | 50 TS%

2002 - 27 ppg | 51 fg% | 62 TS%

2004 - 23 ppg | 38 fg% | 46 TS%

2008 - 26 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 50.5 TS%

2009 - 32 ppg | 43 fg% | 52.5 TS%

2010 - 29 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 52.8 TS%



Here are Kobe's game seven stats.

44.2 MPG

22.2 points

FG 38.9%

FT 67.3%

8 RPG

5 APG

1 SPG

1.3 BPG





Here are Kobe's stats when facing elimination.



22.3 PPG

5.8 RPG


3.5 APG

1.3 SPG

1.3 BPG

on a 50.3 TS

and his teams went 9-10 in those games.

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I dunno what any of this has to do with a majority of respected opinions. it's just you nitpicking my success

I dont think a fieldgoal percentage being lower is an asterisk.

you know what is? colluding, steroids, shortened seasons, bubbles, do or die legacy saving bail outs

[1987_Lakers]

I dunno what any of this has to do with a majority of respected opinions. it's just you nitpicking my success

You might have to re-think those "respected" opinions after I just showed you how Kobe played when it counted.

[Kobe_Bryant]

You might have to re-think those "respected" opinions after I just showed you how Kobe played when it counted.

the finals had elevated defense back when I played. outside shooters usually shot lower percentages cause of the physicality and refs letting things go more.

the goat Michael jordan struggled shooting during his 2nd three peat for a reason.

and remember lebrons struggles outside during my era? that's because guys could actually touch him and put a body in front of him. everyone I defended shot the same or worse. it's just the times. which is why guys put me over lebron. they respect my era and accomplishments more because the league became a joke

[Phoenix]

the finals had elevated defense back when I played. outside shooters usually shot lower percentages cause of the physicality and refs letting things go more.



Aren't you on record as saying the finals were a relative cakewalk( to explain Shaq's finals stats) and the 'real' finals were in the western conference( to hype up Kobe's)? You want to discredit Shaq dropping 36 and 17 on the Sixers while hyping 'you' dropping 30/7/6 on the Spurs or whatever. But now.......the finals had elevated defense. Didn't seem to bother Shaq much and the majority of the physicality would have been entire frontlines fouling out trying to stop him. 'You' simply weren't as strong a finals performer as your 3peat partner, or MJ/Lebron.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Aren't you on record as saying the finals were a relative cakewalk( to explain Shaq's finals stats) and the 'real' finals were in the western conference( to hype up Kobe's)? You want to discredit Shaq dropping 36 and 17 on the Sixers while hyping 'you' dropping 30/7/6 on the Spurs or whatever. But now.......the finals had elevated defense. Didn't seem to bother Shaq much and the majority of the physicality would have been entire frontlines fouling out trying to stop him. 'You' simply weren't as strong a finals performer as your 3peat partner, or MJ/Lebron.


for shaq they were. I usually have pretty solid competition on the wing with guys like Miller, rose, mullin, bell, mckie, Iverson, kidd, Jefferson, prince, Hamilton, Billups

we can't all play guys like toddler mcqueefla, Rick shits and 40yo dadooky mutombel

basically nobody shaq had to worry about inside lmao. my job was actually kind of busy on both ends


and for some reason I always get a devastating injury that involves major ligament or bone damage whenever I play in the finals. that or food poisoning and surgery


Shaq just had to worry about not eating too much before the game

[Phoenix]

for shaq they were. I usually have pretty solid competition on the wing with guys like Miller, rose, mullin, bell, mckie, Iverson, kidd, Jefferson, prince, Hamilton, Billups

we can't all play guys like toddler mcqueefla, Rick shits and 40yo dadooky mutombel

basically nobody shaq had to worry about inside lmao. my job was actually kind of busy on both ends


and for some reason I always get a devastating injury that involves major ligament or bone damage whenever I play in the finals. that or food poisoning and surgery


Shaq just had to worry about not eating too much before the game

Mutombo was the DPOY and the same age(34/35) when Shaq murked him that Reggie was in 2000 when 'you' were dropping 16ppg on 37%. I love how you throw Mullin's name in there like we talking 1990 dream teamer Mullin and not 37 year old has-been Mullin. LOL at throwing out Aaron Mckie's name and Bells name like they were more than role players. Jefferson was a 9ppg rookie in 2002.

Any particular reason you didn't mention that Shaq in 2004 was playing Ben Wallace? He was only the 2-time DPOY at that point( and won it two more times afterwards). Rasheed? I mean, you mention Prince, Billips and Hamilton. Don't start dropping those names and shed light on that finals. Yikes...

[8Ball]

In 'your' heaven is Kobe finally ranked ahead of Lebron?

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Hahahahahhaha

[8Ball]

Here are Kobe's finals stats

2000 - 15.6 ppg | 39 fg%

2001 - 24 ppg | 41.5 fg% | 50 TS%

2002 - 27 ppg | 51 fg% | 62 TS%

2004 - 23 ppg | 38 fg% | 46 TS%

2008 - 26 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 50.5 TS%

2009 - 32 ppg | 43 fg% | 52.5 TS%

2010 - 29 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 52.8 TS%



Here are Kobe's game seven stats.

44.2 MPG

22.2 points

FG 38.9%

FT 67.3%

8 RPG

5 APG

1 SPG

1.3 BPG





Here are Kobe's stats when facing elimination.



22.3 PPG

5.8 RPG


3.5 APG

1.3 SPG

1.3 BPG

on a 50.3 TS

and his teams went 9-10 in those games.

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Ranked ahead of LeBron for Bosh level rings being 2nd fiddle to Shaq.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Mutombo was the DPOY and the same age(34/35) when Shaq murked him that Reggie was in 2000 when 'you' were dropping 16ppg on 37%. I love how you throw Mullin's name in there like we talking 1990 dream teamer Mullin and not 37 year old has-been Mullin. LOL at throwing out Aaron Mckie's name and Bells name like they were more than role players. Jefferson was a 9ppg rookie in 2002.

Any particular reason you didn't mention that Shaq in 2004 was playing Ben Wallace? He was only the 2-time DPOY at that point( and won it two more times afterwards). Rasheed? I mean, you mention Prince, Billips and Hamilton. Don't start dropping those names and shed light on that finals. Yikes...

mutombo won dpoty for blocking little guys coming into the paint. he was weak 1 on 1 vs bigger guys. he just used his face to play defense on shaq basically. he was at the end of his career and got charity DPOTY award.

and I almost forgot about Mark Jackson. I also hounded him full court while Shaq just stood in the paint. believe me kiddo. it's much tougher for a perimeter player to play defense. being able to just camp out for weak side shot blocking is much more enjoyable

and I dunno why you're just glossing over Reggie Miller, Iverson and Jason Kidd while nitpicking Jefferson. sounds like you're shook and grasping for straws to make an argument.

and in 2004 the pistons single covered shaq and double teamed me. it was Larry browns strategy cause it left us with almost no shot clock trying to get the ball up the court.

like I said. I actually had a real job on both ends. Shaq didn't. Ben didn't score either. any time a big scoring center or PF faces shaq its suddenly tough for us. wonder why. maybe cause shaq couldn't defend the pick and roll or step out to contest mid range jumpers. or the fact that he was lazy on defense all around other than sending 1 or 2 shots into the 5th row.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Ranked ahead of LeBron for Bosh level rings being 2nd fiddle to Shaq.

bosh averaged 29ppg during a title run?

at most you can nitpick 2000. my 2001 and 2002 rings are legit. better than almost any other non finals mvp rings in history and probly better than 90% of finals mvps too.

so I have 4 rings you can't really dismiss. and saved shaq for the 2000 title twice.

not a single asterisk. just a lower than usual fg%.

lebron on the other hand. lockouts. bail outs. bubbles. collusions. ring chasing. suspensions and steroids


sorry fella. I'm a real player. your guys a fraud and a cheater

[Phoenix]

mutombo won dpoty for blocking little guys coming into the paint. he was weak 1 on 1 vs bigger guys. he just used his face to play defense on shaq basically. he was at the end of his career and got charity DPOTY award.

and I almost forgot about Mark Jackson. I also hounded him full court while Shaq just stood in the paint. believe me kiddo. it's much tougher for a perimeter player to play defense. being able to just camp out for weak side shot blocking is much more enjoyable

and I dunno why you're just glossing over Reggie Miller, Iverson and Jason Kidd while nitpicking Jefferson. sounds like you're shook and grasping for straws to make an argument.

and in 2004 the pistons single covered shaq and double teamed me. it was Larry browns strategy cause it left us with almost no shot clock trying to get the ball up the court.

like I said. I actually had a real job on both ends. Shaq didn't. Ben didn't score either. any time a big scoring center or PF faces shaq its suddenly tough for us. wonder why. maybe cause shaq couldn't defend the pick and roll or step out to contest mid range jumpers. or the fact that he was lazy on defense all around other than sending 1 or 2 shots into the 5th row.

You could have stuck with names that actually mattered within the context of when they were playing those Laker squads. Chris Mullin in 2000 is a stretch. Raja Bell and Mckie were decent role players. You called out a bunch of names that shouldn't have posed any issue if 'you' were as great as you proclaim. Rip Hamilton and Chauncey Billips weren't close to 'your' level. The only perimeter guy who actually was, Iverson, actually outproduced 'you' while being the sole focus of the offense. Even with Shaq on-board carrying the offense 'you' could barely muster 25ppg on 41%. At least shoot a decent percentage ya stupid fukk. :lol

So the Pistons strategy was to double you and 'single' Shaq......and 'you' thought it was a good idea to jack up more shots at a 38% clip than the guy dropping 27 on 63%. Dumb shit like that is why on 10 random rankings lists, 'you' are barely top 10 on half of them.

[Kobe_Bryant]

You could have stuck with names that actually mattered within the context of when they were playing those Laker squads. Chris Mullin in 2000 is a stretch. Raja Bell and Mckie were decent role players. You called out a bunch of names that shouldn't have posed any issue if 'you' were as great as you proclaim. Rip Hamilton and Chauncey Billips weren't close to 'your' level. The only perimeter guy who actually was, Iverson, actually outproduced 'you' while being the sole focus of the offense. Even with Shaq on-board carrying the offense 'you' could barely muster 25ppg on 41%. At least shoot a decent percentage ya stupid fukk. :lol

So the Pistons strategy was to double you and 'single' Shaq......and 'you' thought it was a good idea to jack up more shots at a 38% clip than the guy dropping 27 on 63%. Dumb shit like that is why on 10 random rankings lists, 'you' are barely top 10 on half of them.

when I mention bell it's in a defensive context. obviously you wouldn't understand because you never watched the era I'm talking about

and I never said any of these guys were on my level. I said they actually required effort. shaq had a cake walk with his matchups. my guys would average around 20 points or more or be the primary playmakers/stoppers and shaqs matchups were just trash cans mostly with around 10 points at most.

and like I said shaq needs to get started early in the shot clock and they pressed us to drain clock. and he never came over from the weak side when I had the ball. he just stood on the other side of the floor crying and not going for rebounds out of spite. it was an obvious sabotage due to our feud. we just took turns doing our own thing and he had single coverage so he got better looks. he wasn't willing to work with me in the offense so he couldn't get the ball more when they doubled. I had to just swing it or force it and we had no shooters at the time

[Phoenix]

when I mention bell it's in a defensive context. obviously you wouldn't understand because you never watched the era I'm talking about

and I never said any of these guys were on my level. I said they actually required effort. shaq had a cake walk with his matchups. my guys would average around 20 points or more or be the primary playmakers/stoppers and shaqs matchups were just trash cans mostly with around 10 points at most.

and like I said shaq needs to get started early in the shot clock and they pressed us to drain clock. and he never came over from the weak side when I had the ball. he just stood on the other side of the floor crying and not going for rebounds out of spite. it was an obvious sabotage due to our feud. we just took turns doing our own thing and he had single coverage so he got better looks. he wasn't willing to work with me in the offense so he couldn't get the ball more when they doubled. I had to just swing it or force it and we had no shooters at the time

I've been watching since the 80s bud and that's about as far as I read your drivel. Anyone impersonating Kobe's spirit doesn't warrant too much effort and energy. So you can 'last word' away till the cows come home. Reality is 'you're' a fringe top 10 player and relative subpar finals play and series like 2004 are the reason why. Dems the breaks I'm afraid and its utterly skullfukked you.

[imdaman99]

If they are letting trash like OP into heaven, then they really are opening the floodgates for everyone :lol

[Kobe_Bryant]

I've been watching since the 80s bud and that's about as far as I read your drivel. Anyone impersonating Kobe's spirit doesn't warrant too much effort and energy. So you can 'last word' away till the cows come home. Reality is 'you're' a fringe top 10 player and relative subpar finals play and series like 2004 are the reason why. Dems the breaks I'm afraid and its utterly skullfukked you.

na you see. the people who vote me out of the top 10 trash me every day. like for instance. if you. 8ball. lakers1987. rrr3. corporation. hbk and all the other guys here that voted me out of the top 10 actually liked me. or were indifferent or just respected me and didn't spend all day every day every week every month every year since like 2006 or 2007 constantly trying to trash me THEN MAYBE I would take your message board rankings seriously. same goes for realgm and some media sites that trashed me in the past. you simply can't be taken seriously.

players on the other hand have lives. they also played basketball. and they're not consumed with an obsession for or against anyone but maybe themselves obviously. you see players are shameless self promoters. but they have no bias when it comes to praising their contemporaries. the only obvious one is Isiah Thomas. he's over the top biased against MJ. but everyone else for the most part is objective. and those people almost all say I am better than lebron and 2nd to MJ. at the very least top 5.

and lebron isn't too far behind me. that's the reality. you see I'm kobe bryant. I'm biased. I'm obviously gonna promote myself and up until my death I did nothing but praise lebron. only now can I truly be honest. this is why you will never have anything over me. I will always win

[Kobe_Bryant]

If they are letting trash like OP into heaven, then they really are opening the floodgates for everyone :lol

heaven is a form of purgatory on earth without ever transitioning to a better place. this is heaven and hell. the good and the bad are all around you

[Phoenix]

na you see. the people who vote me out of the top 10 trash me every day. like for instance. if you. 8ball. lakers1987. rrr3. corporation. hbk and all the other guys here that voted me out of the top 10 actually liked me. or were indifferent or just respected me and didn't spend all day every day every week every month every year since like 2006 or 2007 constantly trying to trash me THEN MAYBE I would take your message board rankings seriously. same goes for realgm and some media sites that trashed me in the past. you simply can't be taken seriously.

players on the other hand have lives. they also played basketball. and they're not consumed with an obsession for or against anyone but maybe themselves obviously. you see players are shameless self promoters. but they have no bias when it comes to praising their contemporaries. the only obvious one is Isiah Thomas. he's over the top biased against MJ. but everyone else for the most part is objective. and those people almost all say I am better than lebron and 2nd to MJ. at the very least top 5.

and lebron isn't too far behind me. that's the reality. you see I'm kobe bryant. I'm biased. I'm obviously gonna promote myself and up until my death I did nothing but praise lebron. only now can I truly be honest. this is why you will never have anything over me. I will always win

Thatta boy, get that long last word in :oldlol:. Fringe top 10 at best.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Thatta boy, get that long last word in :oldlol:. Fringe top 10 at best.

you hate me and you're not important so your opinion is irrelevant

when do you ever hear a sports show discuss ISH player rankings.

they only ask for players top 5s

[Phoenix]

you hate me and you're not important so your opinion is irrelevant

when do you ever hear a sports show discuss ISH player rankings.

they only ask for players top 5s

Important and relevant enough for you to keep melting down, fukkboi.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Important and relevant enough for you to keep melting down, fukkboi.

I keep hearing this meltdown line. I'm sorry but if you're conversing with me going back and forth then you would also have to be "melting down"


personally I think saying meltdown MEANS you're melting down because your brain melted down so much its the only 2 words you can think of as a response

[Phoenix]

for shaq they were. I usually have pretty solid competition on the wing with guys like Miller, rose, mullin, bell, mckie, Iverson, kidd, Jefferson, prince, Hamilton, Billups

we can't all play guys like toddler mcqueefla, Rick shits and 40yo dadooky mutombel

basically nobody shaq had to worry about inside lmao. my job was actually kind of busy on both ends


and for some reason I always get a devastating injury that involves major ligament or bone damage whenever I play in the finals. that or food poisoning and surgery


Shaq just had to worry about not eating too much before the game


mutombo won dpoty for blocking little guys coming into the paint. he was weak 1 on 1 vs bigger guys. he just used his face to play defense on shaq basically. he was at the end of his career and got charity DPOTY award.

and I almost forgot about Mark Jackson. I also hounded him full court while Shaq just stood in the paint. believe me kiddo. it's much tougher for a perimeter player to play defense. being able to just camp out for weak side shot blocking is much more enjoyable

and I dunno why you're just glossing over Reggie Miller, Iverson and Jason Kidd while nitpicking Jefferson. sounds like you're shook and grasping for straws to make an argument.

and in 2004 the pistons single covered shaq and double teamed me. it was Larry browns strategy cause it left us with almost no shot clock trying to get the ball up the court.

like I said. I actually had a real job on both ends. Shaq didn't. Ben didn't score either. any time a big scoring center or PF faces shaq its suddenly tough for us. wonder why. maybe cause shaq couldn't defend the pick and roll or step out to contest mid range jumpers. or the fact that he was lazy on defense all around other than sending 1 or 2 shots into the 5th row.


na you see. the people who vote me out of the top 10 trash me every day. like for instance. if you. 8ball. lakers1987. rrr3. corporation. hbk and all the other guys here that voted me out of the top 10 actually liked me. or were indifferent or just respected me and didn't spend all day every day every week every month every year since like 2006 or 2007 constantly trying to trash me THEN MAYBE I would take your message board rankings seriously. same goes for realgm and some media sites that trashed me in the past. you simply can't be taken seriously.

players on the other hand have lives. they also played basketball. and they're not consumed with an obsession for or against anyone but maybe themselves obviously. you see players are shameless self promoters. but they have no bias when it comes to praising their contemporaries. the only obvious one is Isiah Thomas. he's over the top biased against MJ. but everyone else for the most part is objective. and those people almost all say I am better than lebron and 2nd to MJ. at the very least top 5.

and lebron isn't too far behind me. that's the reality. you see I'm kobe bryant. I'm biased. I'm obviously gonna promote myself and up until my death I did nothing but praise lebron. only now can I truly be honest. this is why you will never have anything over me. I will always win

No, the above is melting down, as is pretending to be Kobe's spirit. Absolutely mindfukked into going back and forth shitting out long diatribes with the irrelevant, unimportant opinions of ISH posters.


I keep hearing this meltdown line. I'm sorry but if you're conversing with me going back and forth then you would also have to be "melting down"


personally I think saying meltdown MEANS you're melting down because your brain melted down so much its the only 2 words you can think of as a response

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[SouBeachTalents]

Here are Kobe's finals stats

2000 - 15.6 ppg | 39 fg%

2001 - 24 ppg | 41.5 fg% | 50 TS%

2002 - 27 ppg | 51 fg% | 62 TS%

2004 - 23 ppg | 38 fg% | 46 TS%

2008 - 26 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 50.5 TS%

2009 - 32 ppg | 43 fg% | 52.5 TS%

2010 - 29 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 52.8 TS%



Here are Kobe's game seven stats.

44.2 MPG

22.2 points

FG 38.9%

FT 67.3%

8 RPG

5 APG

1 SPG

1.3 BPG





Here are Kobe's stats when facing elimination.



22.3 PPG

5.8 RPG


3.5 APG

1.3 SPG

1.3 BPG

on a 50.3 TS

and his teams went 9-10 in those games.
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It really is fcking insane that Kobe has the clutch reputation that he does, easily one of the biggest myths in sports history. That's not even getting into the fact that it was his teammates that were ALWAYS hitting the biggest shots instead of him, including turning his game losing bricks into game winners on THREE separate occasions :oldlol: All of them in critical games to boot.

[Kobe_Bryant]

No, the above is melting down, as is pretending to be Kobe's spirit. Absolutely mindfukked into going back and forth shitting out long diatribes with the irrelevant, unimportant opinions of ISH posters.



https://c.tenor.com/UGwvNNc5i_oAAAAd/raiders-of-the-lost-ark-face-melt.gif

I'm dead. all I can do is spy on women's Webcams and access the internet. I told you it's risky taking over people's bodies. they end up getting locked up for psychosis. before we caused exorcisms

this is much safer

[Kobe_Bryant]

https://c.tenor.com/QfyQ4kMW834AAAAM/yuck-gross.gif

It really is fcking insane that Kobe has the clutch reputation that he does, easily one of the biggest myths in sports history. That's not even getting into the fact that it was his teammates that were ALWAYS hitting the biggest shots instead of him, including turning his game losing bricks into game winners on THREE separate occasions :oldlol: All of them in critical games to boot.

I think it was due to the fact that there used to be intense defense during my era and shaq got shook in pressure situations. plus all the injuries. everyone I defended shot lower percentages too during the finals. even MJ for his 2nd three peat when he became more of a jump shooter.



reggies 2000 finals = 41%fgs
M Jackson 2000 finals = 41% fg's
iversons 2001 finals = 40%fgs
snow 2001 finals = 40%fgs
mckie 2001 finals = 31%fg's
bell 2001 finals = 30%fg's
kidds 2002 finals = 43%fg's
Hamilton 2004 finals = 40%fg's
prince 2004 finals = 38%fg's
pierce 2008 finals = 43%fg's ( finals MVP )
Rondo 2008 finals = 37%fg's
Alston 2009 finals = 36%fg's
lee 2009 finals = 37%fg's
reddick 2009 finals = 40%fg's
nelson 2009 finals = 34%fg's
pierce 2010 finals = 43%fg's
ray 2010 finals = 36%fg's
tony allen 2010 finals = 33%fg's




now compared to lebrons matchups it's odd how everyone shot great.




Terry - 50%
Marion - 48%
Dirk - 42% ( finals MVP )
Durant - 55%
Kawhi - 51% 2013
Diaw - 50%
Kawhi - 61% 2014 ( finals MVP )
Manu - 50%
Iguodala - 52% ( finals MVP )
Green - 49% ( should be finals MVP. thanks silver ) 2016
Durant - 56% ( finals MVP ) 2017
Iguodala - 53%
Durant - 53% ( finals MVP ) 2018
Green - 52% 2018
Iguodala - 58% 2018
Butler - 55%


just a sign of the times and referees letting my era play more physical

[SouBeachTalents]

Let's compare Kobe with his perimeter peers against the same competition

vs 2000 Indy
Allen: 22 on 44%
Iverson: 27 on 38%
Houston: 19 on 47%
Kobe: 16 on 37%

vs 2001 Philly
Reggie: 31 on 46%
Vince: 30 on 47%
Allen: 27 on 47%
Kobe: 25 on 42%

vs 2009 Magic
Iggy: 22 on 45%
Pierce: 19 on 43%
LeBron: 39 on 49%
Kobe: 32 on 43%

vs 2010 Celtics
Wade: 33 on 56%
LeBron: 27 on 45%
Vince: 14 on 37%
Kobe: 29 on 41%

I'll concede '02 with Kobe's one fluky efficient series. Strange though how against the same competition, with worse supporting casts and nobody within the realm of peak Shaq on their teams, Kobe without fail shot the most inefficiently and routinely had the worst scoring performances against the same competition than his perimeter peers did.

[Phoenix]

Let's compare Kobe with his perimeter peers against the same competition

vs 2000 Indy
Allen: 22 on 44%
Iverson: 27 on 38%
Houston: 19 on 47%
Kobe: 16 on 37%

vs 2001 Philly
Reggie: 31 on 46%
Vince: 30 on 47%
Allen: 27 on 47%
Kobe: 25 on 42%

vs 2009 Magic
Iggy: 22 on 45%
Pierce: 19 on 43%
LeBron: 39 on 49%
Kobe: 32 on 43%

vs 2010 Celtics
Wade: 33 on 56%
LeBron: 27 on 45%
Vince: 14 on 37%
Kobe: 29 on 41%

I'll concede '02 with Kobe's one fluky efficient series. Strange though how against the same competition, with worse supporting casts and nobody within the realm of peak Shaq on their teams, Kobe without fail shot the most inefficiently and routinely had the worst scoring performances against the same competition than his perimeter peers did.

https://i.imgflip.com/1i2c76.jpg

This should be bronzed and stickied.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Let's compare Kobe with his perimeter peers against the same competition

vs 2000 Indy
Allen: 22 on 44%
Iverson: 27 on 38%
Houston: 19 on 47%
Kobe: 16 on 37%

vs 2001 Philly
Reggie: 31 on 46%
Vince: 30 on 47%
Allen: 27 on 47%
Kobe: 25 on 42%

vs 2009 Magic
Iggy: 22 on 45%
Pierce: 19 on 43%
LeBron: 39 on 49%
Kobe: 32 on 43%

vs 2010 Celtics
Wade: 33 on 56%
LeBron: 27 on 45%
Vince: 14 on 37%
Kobe: 29 on 41%

I'll concede '02 with Kobe's one fluky efficient series. Strange though how against the same competition, with worse supporting casts and nobody within the realm of peak Shaq on their teams, Kobe without fail shot the most inefficiently and routinely had the worst scoring performances against the same competition than his perimeter peers did.

its almost like I was playing with an injured ankle, knee, hand basically every single time.

also you do realize the finals are usually grind it out defensive series during my era. your stats from first/2nd rounds in losing series for guys aren't exactly equal pressure.

like I posted with the other players fg% in the finals. go check their fg% in earlier rounds and I bet they're much better as well

if you need more proof check my earlier rounds in most playoffs and youl also see higher percentages.

like why was I so good against even better teams like sanantonio. makes no sense.. unless you use your brain and context

[SouBeachTalents]

its almost like I was playing with an injured ankle, knee, hand basically every single time.

also you do realize the finals are usually grind it out defensive series during my era. your stats from first/2nd rounds in losing series for guys aren't exactly equal pressure.

like I posted with the other players fg% in the finals. go check their fg% in earlier rounds and I bet they're much better as well

if you need more proof check my earlier rounds in most playoffs and youl also see higher percentages.

like why was I so good against even better teams like sanantonio. makes no sense.. unless you use your brain and context
Pace for each series

2000 Pacers
vs. Bucks: 88.3
vs. Philly: 88.5
vs. Knicks: 84.5
vs. Lakers: 91.5

2001 Sixers
vs. Pacers: 86.7
vs. Raps: 85.3
vs. Bucks: 84.5
vs. Lakers: 89.6

So seems like the earlier rounds were more grind it out defensive series than the Finals, yet Kobe still put up the worst efficiency and production. And pressure? Kobe had the benefit of being the favorite and had HCA in all 5 Finals he won, and was the colossal favorite in most of them. He also had by FAR the best supporting cast of the other players in question, in those early years you're literally comparing the likes of Jalen Rose & Sam Cassel to peak Shaq :lol So spare me the pressure nonsense, Kobe had the best team, HCA & was the favorite every single time. He had about as favorable a situation as a player could have in his Finals and he was still routinely mediocre, and as shown above, typically played worse against the same competition than his perimeter peers did.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Pace for each series

2000 Pacers
vs. Bucks: 88.3
vs. Philly: 88.5
vs. Knicks: 84.5
vs. Lakers: 91.5

2001 Sixers
vs. Pacers: 86.7
vs. Raps: 85.3
vs. Bucks: 84.5
vs. Lakers: 89.6

So seems like the earlier rounds were more grind it out defensive series than the Finals, yet Kobe still put up the worst efficiency and production. And pressure? Kobe had the benefit of being the favorite and had HCA in all 5 Finals he won, and was the colossal favorite in most of them. He also had by FAR the best supporting cast of the other players in question, in those early years you're literally comparing the likes of Jalen Rose & Sam Cassel to peak Shaq :lol So spare me the pressure nonsense, Kobe had the best team, HCA & was the favorite every single time. He had about as favorable a situation as a player could have in his Finals and he was still routinely mediocre, and as shown above, typically played worse against the same competition than his perimeter peers did.

so you're saying we're way better than anyone in the east. no really?

shaq ate those bum centers alive. no sh*t our pace will be higher

for wings it was tougher to score cause the finals is always more physical. i already posted the percentages


reggies 2000 finals = 41%fgs
M Jackson 2000 finals = 41% fg's
iversons 2001 finals = 40%fgs
snow 2001 finals = 40%fgs
mckie 2001 finals = 31%fg's
bell 2001 finals = 30%fg's
kidds 2002 finals = 43%fg's
Hamilton 2004 finals = 40%fg's
prince 2004 finals = 38%fg's
pierce 2008 finals = 43%fg's ( finals MVP )
Rondo 2008 finals = 37%fg's
Alston 2009 finals = 36%fg's
lee 2009 finals = 37%fg's
reddick 2009 finals = 40%fg's
nelson 2009 finals = 34%fg's
pierce 2010 finals = 43%fg's
ray 2010 finals = 36%fg's
tony allen 2010 finals = 33%fg's

[1987_Lakers]

Let's compare Kobe with his perimeter peers against the same competition

vs 2000 Indy
Allen: 22 on 44%
Iverson: 27 on 38%
Houston: 19 on 47%
Kobe: 16 on 37%

vs 2001 Philly
Reggie: 31 on 46%
Vince: 30 on 47%
Allen: 27 on 47%
Kobe: 25 on 42%

vs 2009 Magic
Iggy: 22 on 45%
Pierce: 19 on 43%
LeBron: 39 on 49%
Kobe: 32 on 43%

vs 2010 Celtics
Wade: 33 on 56%
LeBron: 27 on 45%
Vince: 14 on 37%
Kobe: 29 on 41%

I'll concede '02 with Kobe's one fluky efficient series. Strange though how against the same competition, with worse supporting casts and nobody within the realm of peak Shaq on their teams, Kobe without fail shot the most inefficiently and routinely had the worst scoring performances against the same competition than his perimeter peers did.

Kenny taking another L.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Kenny taking another L.

not really. because i also had better shooting in series leading up to the finals. my point is that the finals is usually a tough grind it out series where rebounding and defense decided who won during my era

[1987_Lakers]

not really. because i also had better shooting in series leading up to the finals. my point is that the finals is usually a tough grind it out series where rebounding and defense decided who won during my era

The finals was usually the time Kobe decided to choke, thankfully my man Shaq was there to bail him out and putting up historic numbers in the process.

[Kobe_Bryant]

The finals was usually the time Kobe decided to choke, thankfully my man Shaq was there to bail him out and putting up historic numbers in the process.

if i needed shaq and shaq didn't need me. then how come his only success without me is a 13ppg 3rd option ring riding the bench the entire 4th quarter

all while i became the only player in history to win multiple titles and finals mvps without a top 75 all time teammate

woops

[1987_Lakers]

if i needed shaq and shaq didn't need me. then how come his only success without me is a 13ppg 3rd option ring riding the bench the entire 4th quarter

all while i became the only player in history to win multiple titles and finals mvps without a top 75 all time teammate

woops

Look who Kobe played in the 2009 playoffs, the Nuggets & Magic in the WCF & Finals, as a Laker fan I already knew they were shoe in victories, especially considering the fact that Kobe had the best supporting cast in the NBA that year by a wide margin & the best sidekick in the NBA in Gasol.

Once Kobe went up against real competition vs Boston in 2010 he got exposed, I thank Gasol & Artest everyday for bailing us out to win the title in that game 7 while Kobe was shooting 6-24.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Look who Kobe played in the 2009 playoffs, the Nuggets & Magic in the WCF & Finals, as a Laker fan I already knew they were shoe in victories, especially considering the fact that Kobe had the best supporting cast in the NBA that year by a wide margin & the best sidekick in the NBA in Gasol.

Once Kobe went up against real competition vs Boston in 2010 he got exposed, I thank Gasol & Artest everyday for bailing us out to win the title in that game 7 while Kobe was shooting 6-24.

so shaq beating the crap out of Rick Smits, geriatric cookie monster and Todd mcfatboy is legendary but me beating up on deron Williams, Ron artest, Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Durant, Steve nash and winning finals mvp vs 2 teams that ass f*cked your idol isn't worth a damn. I see


and rondo said I won game 7 for us. need I remind you





2010 NBA finals Game 7:

3:09 left in 3rd - MY 2 point shot ( boston 56 - lakers 49 )

2:21 left in 3rd - MY 11th rebound

1:10 left in 3rd - MY pass to Odom for 2 point layup ( boston 57 - lakers 53 )

8:46 left in 4th - MY 3 points, fouled on shot ( boston 59 - lakers 58 )

5:56 left in 4th - MY 12th rebound

5:56 left in 4th - MY 2 points. fouled on shot ( boston 64 - Lakers 66 )

5:36 left in 4th - MY 13th rebound

5:23 left in 4th - MY 2 point jumpshot ( boston 64 - Lakers 68 )

5:01 left in 4th - MY 14th rebound

4:39 left in 4th - MY assist to Gasols 2 free throws ( boston 64 - lakers 70 )

4:20 left in 4th - MY 15th rebound

3:21 left in 4th - MY 1 point, fouled on dunk attempt ( boston 66 - lakers 71 )

2:47 left in 4th - MY assist to Gasols 2 free throws ( boston 68 - lakers 73 )

1:01 left in 4th - MY assist to Artests 3 pointer ( Boston 73 - Lakers 79 )

0:25 left in 4th - MY 2 points, fouled on drive attempt ( boston 76 - lakers 81 )






and nice way to ignore the 13ppg 3rd option 4th quarter bench warmer ring for Shaqueef as his only success without me

[1987_Lakers]

so shaq beating the crap out of Rick Smits, geriatric cookie monster and Todd mcfatboy is legendary but me beating up on deron Williams, Ron artest, Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Durant, Steve nash and winning finals mvp vs 2 teams that ass f*cked your idol isn't worth a damn. I see


and rondo said I won game 7 for us. need I remind you





2010 NBA finals Game 7:

3:09 left in 3rd - MY 2 point shot ( boston 56 - lakers 49 )

2:21 left in 3rd - MY 11th rebound

1:10 left in 3rd - MY pass to Odom for 2 point layup ( boston 57 - lakers 53 )

8:46 left in 4th - MY 3 points, fouled on shot ( boston 59 - lakers 58 )

5:56 left in 4th - MY 12th rebound

5:56 left in 4th - MY 2 points. fouled on shot ( boston 64 - Lakers 66 )

5:36 left in 4th - MY 13th rebound

5:23 left in 4th - MY 2 point jumpshot ( boston 64 - Lakers 68 )

5:01 left in 4th - MY 14th rebound

4:39 left in 4th - MY assist to Gasols 2 free throws ( boston 64 - lakers 70 )

4:20 left in 4th - MY 15th rebound

3:21 left in 4th - MY 1 point, fouled on dunk attempt ( boston 66 - lakers 71 )

2:47 left in 4th - MY assist to Gasols 2 free throws ( boston 68 - lakers 73 )

1:01 left in 4th - MY assist to Artests 3 pointer ( Boston 73 - Lakers 79 )

0:25 left in 4th - MY 2 points, fouled on drive attempt ( boston 76 - lakers 81 )






and nice way to ignore the 13ppg 3rd option 4th quarter bench warmer ring for Shaqueef as his only success without me

You know you are having a shit game when you are highlighting rebounds and "assist to gasol free throws" lmfao.

[SouBeachTalents]

You know you are having a shit game when you are highlighting rebounds and "assist to gasol free throws" lmfao.
:roll:

LeBron has 37 points and the dagger over Kawhi, then a triple double and the block in his Finals Game 7’s. Kobe has….rebounds and FT attempts

[Kobe_Bryant]

You know you are having a shit game when you are highlighting rebounds and "assist to gasol free throws" lmfao.

says the lebron fan

oh the irony

[Kobe_Bryant]

:roll:

LeBron has 37 points and the dagger over Kawhi, then a triple double and the block in his Finals Game 7’s. Kobe has….rebounds and FT attempts

how did it get to game 7

and how many of those 37 points were contested

imagine if doc rivers strategy for me was "let him shoot wide open" like pop did for lebron in 2013

[SouBeachTalents]

how did it get to game 7

and how many of those 37 points were contested

imagine if doc rivers strategy for me was "let him shoot wide open" like pop did for lebron in 2013
That was a better elimination game than Kobe had in his entire career :oldlol:

Hell, LeBron's career AVERAGE in elimination games is better than any elimination game Kobe had in his entire career. A 19 game sample size, not a single one better than LeBron's average performance.

That's amazing when you think about it, and I'd bet good money you couldn't say the same of anybody else in the top 10 or 15.

[Gohan]

People still think lebron was better than kobe? Lmao the media delusion. Remember consensus will have you going some place you dont want to go

[Axe]

People still think lebron was better than kobe? Lmao the media delusion. Remember consensus will have you going some place you dont want to go
Well, four finals mvps speak for themselves after all.

[Kobe_Bryant]

That was a better elimination game than Kobe had in his entire career :oldlol:

Hell, LeBron's career AVERAGE in elimination games is better than any elimination game Kobe had in his entire career. A 19 game sample size, not a single one better than LeBron's average performance.

That's amazing when you think about it, and I'd bet good money you couldn't say the same of anybody else in the top 10 or 15.

I dont know how lebron didn't score 50 considering they were all practice shots. most guys shoot 70% on those looks. it took lebron 7 games to finally knock them down

lebron isn't that good sorry

[Kobe_Bryant]

Well, four finals mvps speak for themselves after all.

but he shouldn't have any. theyre all manipulated through super team collusions with fake shortened seasons or bail outs or suspensions and all while using steroids

no one that isn't a lebron james super fan respects his resume. he's just a really good passer in a big body that can run and jump well. other than that he shoots poorly and only hits the few shots he does because of being dared wide open cause people don't like getting stiff armed and elbowed on the way to the rim


lebron will never be respected the way I am

[Axe]

but he shouldn't have any. theyre all manipulated through super team collusions with fake shortened seasons or bail outs or suspensions and all while using steroids

no one that isn't a lebron james super fan respects his resume. he's just a really good passer in a big body that can run and jump well. other than that he shoots poorly and only hits the few shots he does because of being dared wide open cause people don't like getting stiff armed and elbowed on the way to the rim


lebron will never be respected the way I am
Kobe stans are delusional for thinking he's in the goat debate.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Kobe stans are delusional for thinking he's in the goat debate.

its not strictly about some media trophies lol. its about a level of skill and eye test, respect that goes way more into how players are judged. if it was just about trophies then Russell and Kareem would have a big following but nobody cares about them

[outofstomach]

I think it was due to the fact that there used to be intense defense during my era and shaq got shook in pressure situations. plus all the injuries. everyone I defended shot lower percentages too during the finals. even MJ for his 2nd three peat when he became more of a jump shooter.



reggies 2000 finals = 41%fgs
M Jackson 2000 finals = 41% fg's
iversons 2001 finals = 40%fgs
snow 2001 finals = 40%fgs
mckie 2001 finals = 31%fg's
bell 2001 finals = 30%fg's
kidds 2002 finals = 43%fg's
Hamilton 2004 finals = 40%fg's
prince 2004 finals = 38%fg's
pierce 2008 finals = 43%fg's ( finals MVP )
Rondo 2008 finals = 37%fg's
Alston 2009 finals = 36%fg's
lee 2009 finals = 37%fg's
reddick 2009 finals = 40%fg's
nelson 2009 finals = 34%fg's
pierce 2010 finals = 43%fg's
ray 2010 finals = 36%fg's
tony allen 2010 finals = 33%fg's




now compared to lebrons matchups it's odd how everyone shot great.




Terry - 50%
Marion - 48%
Dirk - 42% ( finals MVP )
Durant - 55%
Kawhi - 51% 2013
Diaw - 50%
Kawhi - 61% 2014 ( finals MVP )
Manu - 50%
Iguodala - 52% ( finals MVP )
Green - 49% ( should be finals MVP. thanks silver ) 2016
Durant - 56% ( finals MVP ) 2017
Iguodala - 53%
Durant - 53% ( finals MVP ) 2018
Green - 52% 2018
Iguodala - 58% 2018
Butler - 55%


just a sign of the times and referees letting my era play more physical
why no responses to this?

[Gohan]

its not strictly about some media trophies lol. its about a level of skill and eye test, respect that goes way more into how players are judged. if it was just about trophies then Russell and Kareem would have a big following but nobody cares about them

I have to agree. Based off who is a straight up better player kobe is goat if you go by eye test. He just spent too many years with shaq. Even then he had like 9 straight 40 point games. Only other player that could do that when kobe was in the league was iverson

[Kobe_Bryant]

why no responses to this?

they never do :lol

[Axe]

Give it up, kenny boy.

[Pip' N Rodman]

Kobe you ever been in this guys dreams?

https://i.postimg.cc/Xv0RtBwh/2e4jdar.jpg

[Nanners]

Were you around during the 80s? heaven is kinda like that, just with more american flags and bigger muscles

[Kobe_Bryant]

Kobe you ever been in this guys dreams?

https://i.postimg.cc/Xv0RtBwh/2e4jdar.jpg

I only enter females bodies at night. I don't wanna feel some other guys dick and balls