Would Kobe have scored 100 points...

[RogueBorg]

The night Kobe scored 81 points, could he have gotten to 100 if he had played all 48 minutes like Wilt did the night he scored 100 and adjusting for 1961-’62 PACE?

For context, in 1961-’62 PACE wasn't calculated but the Warriors took 115 FGA’s the night Wilt scored 100. In 2005-2006 the league PACE average was 90.5. The night Kobe scored 81 the Lakers took only 88 FGA’s.

Wilt played all 48 minutes the night he scored 100. The night Kobe scored 81 he played “only” 41:56 minutes. The first thing we have to do is get Kobe up to 48 minutes played.

81 points/42 minutes played is 1.93 points/minute x 48 minutes played is 92 points scored had he played all 48 minutes. So he’s not quite there, but we have to adjust for PACE.

The night Wilt scored 100 the Warriors took 115 FGA’s. The night Kobe scored 81 the Lakers took 88 FGA’s. Could Kobe have scored 8 additional points if the Lakers as a team had 27 additional FGA’s?

We can calculate like this. 81 points scored on 88 team FGA’s is .92 points scored for Kobe per team FGA. If you give the Lakers 27 additional FGA’s, 27 x .92 is 24.84 additional points scored for Kobe. 92 points for 48 minutes played plus 24 additional points for PACE, Kobe would have scored 116 points had he played all 48 minutes on January 22, 2006.

Unless my math is wrong, somebody check me, but if it's not, this was the single greatest scoring night in NBA history.

[3ba11]

Kobe's teammates were 3-10 from three, aka no spacing

So if Kobe had the same spaced format that today's game uses, he could've scored over 100 easily

And the impeding rules were instituted after this game, so that would help too

[RogueBorg]

Kobe's teammates were 3-10 from three, aka no spacing

So if Kobe had the same spaced format that today's game uses, he could've scored over 100 easily

Ok, he didn't, so forget that for a moment. Had he played all 48 minutes playing at the same PACE as 1961-'62, would he have scored 100?
The answer is yes.

[3ba11]

Ok, he didn't, so forget that for a moment. Had he played all 48 minutes playing at the same PACE as 1961-'62, would he have scored 100?
The answer is yes.


Most definitely.. you're 100% correct

If kobe played all 48 minutes at the same pace as 1961-'62, he would've have scored 100

[Kobe_Bryant]

truthfully I didn't even try scoring in the first half. of course I coulda got 100

[RogueBorg]

Most definitely.. you're 100% correct

If kobe played all 48 minutes at the same pace as 1961-'62, he would've have scored 100

I think it's the single greatest scoring accomplishment in league history.

[3ba11]

I think it's the single greatest scoring accomplishment in league history.


And it's crazy because Kobe is right - he wasn't even trying to score in the 1st half - if he actually TRIED to score 100 by playing every minute and piling on as much as possible, he could've scored 100 from time to time

[TheCorporation]

Regular season? Yawn

[Full Court]

You can do mathematical gymnastics all you want, but Kobe never did score 100 points. 100 points is MUCH better than 81 points. 81 points being "the single greatest scoring accomplishment in league history is utter nonsense.

[Gohan]

You can do mathematical gymnastics all you want, but Kobe never did score 100 points. 100 points is MUCH better than 81 points. 81 points being "the single greatest scoring accomplishment in league history is utter nonsense.

Only a delusional fool thinks kobe couldnt have scored a 100

[warriorfan]

You can do mathematical gymnastics all you want, but Kobe never did score 100 points. 100 points is MUCH better than 81 points. 81 points being "the single greatest scoring accomplishment in league history is utter nonsense.

Higher pace = more possessions = more opportunities to score = more stats

You have to adjust for pace when making these comparisons…..if not then Wilt is the undisputed GOAT by far.

[Full Court]

Only a delusional fool thinks kobe couldnt have scored a 100

If he, or anyone else could have, they would have. Jog on.

[Full Court]

Higher pace = more possessions = more opportunities to score = more stats

You have to adjust for pace when making these comparisons…..if not then Wilt is the undisputed GOAT by far.

Adjusting for pace is injecting an artificiality based on speculative assumptions. It assumes if the pace was faster then Kobe would have taken more shots, would have hit the same percentage, etc. It also might have tired him out and made him miss more shots or play less than his 42 minutes. You can twist "what ifs" into whatever you want them to be.

There's more to being the GOAT than just one scoring stat, or even scoring in general. However, it's pretty clear that Wilt is the greatest scorer of all time.

[Axe]

81 points against a lottery raptors team? Lmfao.

[HylianNightmare]

Wish they'd cough up that 100 point game footage

[Rysio]

You can do mathematical gymnastics all you want, but Kobe never did score 100 points. 100 points is MUCH better than 81 points. 81 points being "the single greatest scoring accomplishment in league history is utter nonsense.

Considering that kobe started to score only when lakers were down by double digits and that it was mostly jumpshots makes it more impressive than a lay up and dunk 100 point game.

[Axe]

Considering that kobe started to score only when lakers were down by double digits and that it was mostly jumpshots makes it more impressive than a lay up and dunk 100 point game.
And in garbage time too.

[Shogon]

Higher pace = more possessions = more opportunities to score = more stats

You have to adjust for pace when making these comparisons…..if not then Wilt is the undisputed GOAT by far.

Higher pace is also more exhausting.

Wilt is just a freak of nature to be able to maintain the number of MPG he did over his career regardless of pace. Nobody else has even been close, have they? Pretty sure not even close... let me look it up.

But look at marathon winners... they're all skinny af. Basketball isn't a marathon, but there's a reason that all of these guys don't play 48 mpg. That shit is beyond exhausting when you're talking about posting people up, quick cuts in one direction, having defenders bodying you any which way they can, etc.


No, he wouldn't have scored 100 if he had played 48 minutes at a 1962 pace. He would have long before gassed the **** out.

[Shogon]

https://i.postimg.cc/qvXHJWLG/mpg.png

Wilt was a freak, but if you look, other than AI, all of the guys at the top of this list are from years ago... back when the pace was higher.

Why is that? More minutes at a higher pace? Doesn't make sense, right?

Have humans gone backwards athletically?

Nah... it's because today's players carry more muscle on their frames, which makes it harder to do extensive stretches of cardio when complex movements are involved.

[Gohan]

https://i.postimg.cc/qvXHJWLG/mpg.png

Wilt was a freak, but if you look, other than AI, all of the guys at the top of this list are from years ago... back when the pace was higher.

Why is that? More minutes at a higher pace? Doesn't make sense, right?

Have humans gone backwards athletically?

Nah... it's because today's players carry more muscle on their frames, which makes it harder to do extensive stretches of cardio when complex movements are involved.

I feel sad for ai, he had to be exhausted most of those games

[Shogon]

I think players put on a lot of muscle today that isn't natural or beneficial to playing basketball and basketball movements when taking into account trying to play extended periods... and as such they are not able to play as many minutes. That's my theory, anyways. Who's to say? Surely someone more qualified can enlighten us.

Obviously them putting on muscle helps them in game other ways, just not when going for marathon type minutes.

[Psileas]

Considering that kobe started to score only when lakers were down by double digits and that it was mostly jumpshots makes it more impressive than a lay up and dunk 100 point game.

Considering the Lakers were very quickly behind by 10+, that's not really saying much. Kobe didn't "start to score" when the Lakers were down by 10+, he had already taken 5 shots in the first half of the quarter, but just wasn't super hot yet. He was still on pace for a 50+ point game by halftime and had already taken 18 shots, so, he was already trying to take over. Which is also the reason why he wouldn't have scored 100+, even on 48'. His missed minutes came in the first half, not in the super hot second. Wilt's most points also came in the second half, so let's not pretend that Wilt was pushing it from the beginning to get to 100. He had multiple 20+ point quarters and 30-35 point halves, so having 41 in the first half wasn't really that outstanding and unexpected for his own standards. Maybe Kobe pushing it from the beginning might end up with 100, but Wilt doing the same could have 120+.
If Wilt's game was simply "lay ups and dunks", he'd be scoring 100+ points every single damn time. Truth is, according to testimonies, Wilt was making all kinds of shots that game, including long range ones.
And, unlike Kobe, the opposing team was actually trying to stop him, throwing even the whole 5 guys on him in the end and leaving anyone else open or fouling everyone except Wilt. Trying every cheap way to keep him from scoring 100 and still failing. The Raps? They weren't even bothering to double Kobe, not even when he was really in the zone and draining one long shot after the other. They deserved the humiliation more than the Knicks did, which means that Wilt deserves the glory more than Kobe does.

[LeCola]

Ok, he didn't, so forget that for a moment. Had he played all 48 minutes playing at the same PACE as 1961-'62, would he have scored 100?
The answer is yes.


Most definitely.. you're 100% correct

If kobe played all 48 minutes at the same pace as 1961-'62, he would've have scored 100

Not sure Kobe can but I think Durant can do it. Maybe, Lebron could do too.

If we say smaller amount of time like 5 minutes or 1 quarter I think Shaq would score more than Lebron or Durant.

However we are talking about playing 48 minutes in high pace. Shaq or any big could be tired.

So, the thing Wilt do is very impressive and shows how great stamina he had.

[Rysio]

Considering the Lakers were very quickly behind by 10+, that's not really saying much. Kobe didn't "start to score" when the Lakers were down by 10+, he had already taken 5 shots in the first half of the quarter, but just wasn't super hot yet. He was still on pace for a 50+ point game by halftime and had already taken 18 shots, so, he was already trying to take over. Which is also the reason why he wouldn't have scored 100+, even on 48'. His missed minutes came in the first half, not in the super hot second. Wilt's most points also came in the second half, so let's not pretend that Wilt was pushing it from the beginning to get to 100. He had multiple 20+ point quarters and 30-35 point halves, so having 41 in the first half wasn't really that outstanding and unexpected for his own standards. Maybe Kobe pushing it from the beginning might end up with 100, but Wilt doing the same could have 120+.
If Wilt's game was simply "lay ups and dunks", he'd be scoring 100+ points every single damn time. Truth is, according to testimonies, Wilt was making all kinds of shots that game, including long range ones.
And, unlike Kobe, the opposing team was actually trying to stop him, throwing even the whole 5 guys on him in the end and leaving anyone else open or fouling everyone except Wilt. Trying every cheap way to keep him from scoring 100 and still failing. The Raps? They weren't even bothering to double Kobe, not even when he was really in the zone and draining one long shot after the other. They deserved the humiliation more than the Knicks did, which means that Wilt deserves the glory more than Kobe does.
Without fts wilt scored 72 points kobe 63 points unless wilt was making fadeaways over double teams kobes 63 >>> 72

[Psileas]

Without fts wilt scored 72 points kobe 63 points unless wilt was making fadeaways over double teams kobes 63 >>> 72

:oldlol: You're actually penalizing Wilt because he shot and made more FT? Yeah, shooting a load of FT's is what you get for getting triple and quadrupled teammed and it's part of the game. The real question is if Kobe really deserved his own 20 FT's when the Raps were defending so lazily against him.

[Chick Stern]

If Kobe had played the game in the mid 90s he would have got 140

[lakerstekkenn]

The night Kobe scored 81 points, could he have gotten to 100 if he had played all 48 minutes like Wilt did the night he scored 100 and adjusting for 1961-’62 PACE?

For context, in 1961-’62 PACE wasn't calculated but the Warriors took 115 FGA’s the night Wilt scored 100. In 2005-2006 the league PACE average was 90.5. The night Kobe scored 81 the Lakers took only 88 FGA’s.

Wilt played all 48 minutes the night he scored 100. The night Kobe scored 81 he played “only” 41:56 minutes. The first thing we have to do is get Kobe up to 48 minutes played.

81 points/42 minutes played is 1.93 points/minute x 48 minutes played is 92 points scored had he played all 48 minutes. So he’s not quite there, but we have to adjust for PACE.

The night Wilt scored 100 the Warriors took 115 FGA’s. The night Kobe scored 81 the Lakers took 88 FGA’s. Could Kobe have scored 8 additional points if the Lakers as a team had 27 additional FGA’s?

We can calculate like this. 81 points scored on 88 team FGA’s is .92 points scored for Kobe per team FGA. If you give the Lakers 27 additional FGA’s, 27 x .92 is 24.84 additional points scored for Kobe. 92 points for 48 minutes played plus 24 additional points for PACE, Kobe would have scored 116 points had he played all 48 minutes on January 22, 2006.

Unless my math is wrong, somebody check me, but if it's not, this was the single greatest scoring night in NBA history.

Yes.

[iamgine]

Most likely yes. But many people could likely score 100 if they're allowed to chuck shots for 48 minutes game after game.

[SATAN]

I'd want a trade if a team mate tried this and coach was ok with it tbh.

[Thenameless]

Wilt is still far, far more impressive, as he got to 100 without any 3-point shots. Don't even put these two in the same sentence.

[Phoenix]

All of Kobe's 81 wasn't needed, though. Go to 9 minutes in the video, Kobe hit a 3 to give him 70, the Lakers were up by 15 with 4:51 left. By that point in time there was simply no chance in hell Toronto was coming back in that game. The rest of the way was basically a meta-game of how high he could push the total and his teammates facilitating it by staying out of the way. Obviously impressive, but it's not like Kobe scored 81 and they won by 3 or something like that. Hell at 9:35 the commentator even says 'he's got the record now, just run the offense but you get caught up as a team'. They were up by 15 with under 2 minutes, and Kobe was still firing when in any normal situation, the best player would have been pulled. Now watch some Kobe nut try to dismiss it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9NILK4OXpo

[RogueBorg]

All of Kobe's 81 wasn't needed, though. Go to 9 minutes in the video, Kobe hit a 3 to give him 70, the Lakers were up by 15 with 4:51 left. By that point in time there was simply no chance in hell Toronto was coming back in that game. The rest of the way was basically a meta-game of how high he could push the total and his teammates facilitating it by staying out of the way. Obviously impressive, but it's not like Kobe scored 81 and they won by 3 or something like that. Hell at 9:35 the commentator even says 'he's got the record now, just run the offense but you get caught up as a team'. They were up by 15 with under 2 minutes, and Kobe was still firing when in any normal situation, the best player would have been pulled. Now watch some Kobe nut try to dismiss it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9NILK4OXpo

If you get to 70 early in the 4th, you have to go for it. You have to.