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Kobe_Bryant

10-15-2021, 02:49 PM

8Ball

10-15-2021, 02:54 PM

Kobe_Bryant

10-15-2021, 02:58 PM

No tampering, no collusion in any year of LeBron's career.

Kobe did force his way to the Lakers to play with prime Shaq, something LeBron never attempted to do.

Another fail thread by the forum beta male. :lol

lebron literally admitted in an interview that he's been colluding since 2007

and I said I wanted to be a laker 2 months before shaq even considered LA. Jerry West confirmed this already

Kobe_Bryant

10-15-2021, 03:02 PM

https://i.ibb.co/QkWXHQD/Screenshot-20211015-145911-Samsung-Internet.jpg

:roll:

"within the nbas rules" ... sorry lebron. when you're basically the agent for a player and using rich Paul as a figure head it means you're openly tampering and hiding it from the league

8Ball

10-15-2021, 03:31 PM

Within NBA rules.

No collusion. No tampering.

End of story.

Kobe_Bryant

10-15-2021, 03:40 PM

Within NBA rules.

No collusion. No tampering.

End of story.

collusion isn't against the nbas tampering policy for players. it's still collusion by definition. and it would be classified as tampering if the nba acknowledged that lebron is the real head of clutch sports agency and he just put his friend rich Paul in charge so he could get steroids off the books and recruit players from other teams and have a way to communicate trades and signings/perks with them without anything being directly linked to lebron or his teams

its manipulation of the leagues rulebook and basically a mafia structure to evade charges.

lebron is a criminal and should be investigated by the league, IRS and banned for life for steroids ontop.

3ba11

10-15-2021, 03:54 PM

lebron literally admitted in an interview that he's been colluding since 2007

You mean since 2005:

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Hughes was a 22/6/5 all-defender (1st team)

In 2005, Gilbert Arenas and Hughes made the 2nd Round, but then Lebron stole Hughes to beat Arenas in 2006.. So Lebron almost always had better casts than his Eastern opponents.. He infact failed to carry lottery casts (teams that were lottery the prior year) to low seeds in 04', 05', or 19', and therefore only had high seeds in the playoffs (good casts relative to conference). So he never carried "bums" or low seeds in the playoffs like Kobe or other stars, who were good enough to carry lottery teams to low seeds - Lebron infact got 3 years to develop his team into a favored high seed before entering the 06' Playoffs, while Kobe carried lottery casts to low seeds and therefore had to carry bad teams in the playoffs.

meat

10-15-2021, 04:41 PM

Kobe from the grave is really dedicated to this shtick but I don't know how much longer it can last.
Kobe you need another helicopter ride. I'm pretty sure this consumes your every waking moment.

Hey Yo

10-15-2021, 04:41 PM

lebron literally admitted in an interview that he's been colluding since 2007

and I said I wanted to be a laker 2 months before shaq even considered LA. Jerry West confirmed this already

2mos??

:oldlol:

Kobe_Bryant

10-15-2021, 05:11 PM

2mos??

:oldlol:

I told teams I wanted to be a Laker during the pre draft workouts in the middle of May back in 1996

shaq signed with the Lakers July 18th

do the math

SaintzFury13

10-15-2021, 05:18 PM

Hey Yo

10-15-2021, 05:24 PM

I told teams I wanted to be a Laker during the pre draft workouts in the middle of May back in 1996

shaq signed with the Lakers July 18th

do the math

So why did Kobe have 4 separate vists/work outs with NJ?

His parents had dinner with Calipari the night before the draft. They were thrilled Kobe would be playing so close to home.

I guess that means Kobe never told his parents he wanted to be in LA, correct?

SaintzFury13

10-15-2021, 05:25 PM

say lebron wins the title this year these will be his titles

2011-12 = massive tampering and collusion with Dwyane wade and Chris bosh and a league wide lockout to shorten the season and put a rush on games making older teams obsolete and handing the finals to an inexperience thunder team after the heat are handed a rigged series va Boston. then the reffing completely swings in the heats favor after a controversial no call that would have landed the thunder up 2 games to 0.

2012-13 = massive tampering and collusion with ray allen to steal his best opponents sharp shooting hall of fame corner stone and then he hits the biggest shot in finals history to save lebrons legacy and then the best power forward ever and a top 10 player all time bricks a point blank layup to hand him the championship in a game 7 that never should have taken place.

2015-16 = massive tampering and collusion with kyrie irving and Kevin love and never before seen deal between a player and the commissioner to suspend the opposing teams finals MVP front runner for a pivotal game 5 on their home floor and then his colluded teammate hits the finals winning shot in a game 7 that never should have taken place

2019-20 = massive tampering and collusion with anthony davis and Never before seen 5 month break with Disney bubble vacation summer league playoffs and no nets due to kyrie and Durant skipping it for a BLM political campaign

2021-22 = Massive tampering and collusion with Russell Westbrook and Never before seen league wide mandate for everyone to take experimental vaccines for a fake global pandemic that causes Kyrie Irvings suspension for the entire season and thus eliminating the Lakers best competition

its like lebron benifits whenever the nba is on the wrong side of history

I have no doubt the Lakers win this year now. why else would the nba cancel kyrie :lol

But since we're going to play this game...

2000: Kobe averaged 15 PPG and needed to be carried by Shaq.

2001: Faced one of the weakest NBA Finals opponents in history.

2002: Series against the Kings was confirmed to be rigged.

2009: Benefited from facing another weak finals opponent in Orlando.

2010: Had to be bailed out by his teammates after putting on one of the worst game 7 performances of all time.

Pretty much every single NBA Finals win can be criticized if you choose to focus on the advantages that were given to the team that won. The simple fact of the matter is, most of what you just listed is false. LeBron never colluded. You can't just use words you clearly don't understand in situations that don't apply. Yeah, you're so bad at this that you couldn't even criticize LeBron's wins properly.

2012: LeBron had weak opponents going into the finals and faced an inexperienced and out of their element Thunder team.

2013: LeBron played poorly on offense the first couple of games and turned the ball over twice in the final minute of game 6, which almost gave San Antonio the game.

2016: Steph and Iggy were both injured, Bogut got injured and Draymond was suspended in game 5. LeBron also missed three key baskets down the stretch before Kyrie broke the game open with his three pointer.

2020: Anthony Davis was historically dominant in the playoffs and the Lakers avoided facing the Clippers, the only team in the entire league who had any realistic chance of beating them that year.

See how easy that was? What I just stated was far more factual, and did a far better job of criticizing LeBron's title wins. All you did was kill your credibility the moment you went the "collusion LOL" route.

Kobe_Bryant

10-15-2021, 06:40 PM

So why did Kobe have 4 separate vists/work outs with NJ?

His parents had dinner with Calipari the night before the draft. They were thrilled Kobe would be playing so close to home.

I guess that means Kobe never told his parents he wanted to be in LA, correct?

so now you're saying I didn't tell teams I wanted to be with the Lakers? sorry I'm confused.

Spurs m8

10-15-2021, 06:47 PM

Hey Yo

10-15-2021, 06:58 PM

so now you're saying I didn't tell teams I wanted to be with the Lakers? sorry I'm confused.

Not 2mos prior.

Kobe_Bryant

10-15-2021, 07:00 PM

But since we're going to play this game...

welcome to your death

2000: Kobe averaged 15 PPG and needed to be carried by Shaq.

how is that an asterisk, anomaly, fake season, rigging? sorry its just a clean ring with me as a sidekick and saving the wcf leading us in points, rebounds, assists and blocks and saving the nba finals in game 4 with shaq out. i averaged 23ppg for the season, 21ppg for the playoffs and 19ppg in the finals. the 15ppg isn't accurate because i didn't play in game 2 after my ankle injury in the 1st quarter. to disqualify me for a 19ppg finals is basically contradicting the importance of pau gasol. another guy that averaged 19ppg and came up big for an important game and was the clear #2 and also didn't win finals mvp. so if i didn't do sh*t for the 2000 title neither did pau for 2009 or 2010. you lose

2001: Faced one of the weakest NBA Finals opponents in history.

well that trashes shaqs finals mvp. thanks for proving my point for me. you're right. i dominated the 2001 playoffs leading us past portland, sacramento and sanantonio so shaq could hijack finals mvp vs one of the worst finals opponents in history. again not cheating in any way. no colluding. in fact we let glen rice walk to save money so i had to go from averaging 21ppg in the playoffs to averaging 29ppg. you lose

2002: Series against the Kings was confirmed to be rigged.

the series was indeed rigged. but not for the lakers overall. it was rigged to go 7 due to the nets finals not predicting to make any money. we had game 6 in our favor. the kings had game 5 in their favor. then game 7 was pretty much reffed even and the kings just choked going like 2 for 20 from 3 and 14 for 30 from the line. the kings actually shot more free throws than we did for the series. you lose

2009: Benefited from facing another weak finals opponent in Orlando.

even if this were true.. again...how is this cheating?. they beat the #1 team in the league and reigning league mvp didn't they. thats lebrons fault. and dwight was actually really good back then. you should know. he slapped your idol silly. if you wanna bring up level of competition need i remind you i beat 24 teams with 50+ wins to make 7 finals and your guy beat 14 teams with 50+ wins to make 10 finals. you lose

2010: Had to be bailed out by his teammates after putting on one of the worst game 7 performances of all time.

Pretty much every single NBA Finals win can be criticized if you choose to focus on the advantages that were given to the team that won. The simple fact of the matter is, most of what you just listed is false. LeBron never colluded. You can't just use words you clearly don't understand in situations that don't apply. Yeah, you're so bad at this that you couldn't even criticize LeBron's wins properly.

everyone played bad during the first 3 quarters of game 7. pierce and allen combined for 8 for 30 so they basically voided my bad shooting. then during the last 15 minutes i dominated and won the series for my team according to rajon rondo. i had a hand in every play on both ends

2010 NBA finals Game 7:
3:09 left in 3rd - MY 2 point shot ( boston 56 - lakers 49 )
2:21 left in 3rd - MY 11th rebound
1:10 left in 3rd - MY pass to odom for 2 point layup ( boston 57 - lakers 53 )
8:46 left in 4th - MY 3 points, fouled on shot ( boston 59 - lakers 58 )
5:56 left in 4th - MY 12th rebound
5:56 left in 4th - MY 2 points. fouled on shot ( boston 64 - Lakers 66 )
5:36 left in 4th - MY 13th rebound
5:23 left in 4th - MY 2 point jumpshot ( boston 64 - Lakers 68 )
5:01 left in 4th - MY 14th rebound
4:39 left in 4th - MY assist to Gasols 2 free throws ( boston 64 - lakers 70 )
4:20 left in 4th - MY 15th rebound
3:21 left in 4th - MY 1 point, fouled on dunk attempt ( boston 66 - lakers 71 )
2:47 left in 4th - MY assist to Gasols 2 free throws ( boston 68 - lakers 73 )
1:01 left in 4th - MY assist to Artests 3 pointer ( Boston 73 - Lakers 79 )
0:25 left in 4th - MY 2 points, fouled on drive attempt ( boston 76 - lakers 81 )

It’s interesting, I just found out something about Kobe, what he did in the 2010 championship Game 7. How he broke the game down and figured out how to beat us. I can’t give you the insight on that, but I just found that out. Like, maybe 45 minutes ago. It kinda pissed me off a little bit. It’s part of it, but it’s craziness. It’s amazing how he thinks the game, and it’s fun to know that. … I don’t know if it was going into the game, but it was told to me that he had to figure it out during the game. He wasn’t himself. So he had to figure out a different way to win the game. - Rajon Rondo

you lose

Kobe_Bryant

10-15-2021, 07:05 PM

Not 2mos prior.

the narrative is i told teams during the pre draft workouts. they take place usually between may 14-19

west didn't convince shaq till he had the money to pay him and he also helped sway him by saying they had just traded for me and cleared up some cap getting rid of divac so they can get a number close to what he wants. that happened after i was traded the week before shaq signed on july 18th

you lose

Hey Yo

10-15-2021, 07:26 PM

the narrative is i told teams during the pre draft workouts. they take place usually between may 14-19

west didn't convince shaq till he had the money to pay him and he also helped sway him by saying they had just traded for me and cleared up some cap getting rid of divac so they can get a number close to what he wants. that happened after i was traded the week before shaq signed on july 18th

you lose

Once Kobe camp found out how LA could trade to get him, that's when the memo was put out that he would only sign with LA. That wasnt 2mos. prior

Chose to ride the bench in LA for 2yrs and ring chase, rather than start for NJ and try to build a contender

FultzNationRISE

10-15-2021, 07:31 PM

Kobe_Bryant

10-15-2021, 07:38 PM

Once Kobe camp found out how LA could trade to get him, that's when the memo was put out that he would only sign with LA. That wasnt 2mos. prior

Chose to ride the bench in LA for 2yrs and ring chase, rather than start for NJ and try to build a contender

i still don't see how i was ring chasing when the team was in a rebuilding stage and wasn't even remotely close to as good as the sonics, utah, sanantonio, chicago, new york, indiana, miami etc...

why wouldn't i ask to be traded to one of these teams lol

and i didn't have any pull as a 13th pick highschool kid. i couldn't demand anything. and i still went there long before shaq agreed. i didn't even know shaq at the time

this wasn't us in his backyard like lebron, AD and russ

you lose

3ba11

10-15-2021, 08:31 PM

SaintzFury don't want NO PART of Kobe_Bryant - the clutch facts are too readily available to present, so Saintz knows to run

3ba11

10-15-2021, 08:40 PM

It's amazing that with all the colluding, team hopping and cherry picking, this guy literally doesn't have a single title without a blemish.

Add to that, all his losses and direct opponent FMVP....and the brainwashed ones still somehow things he's even close to the GOAT

It's actually hysterical

Well it's very interesting that he needed his sidekick to outscore the opposing #1 option in 2013 Finals, and then needed AD to lead the whole league in playoff scoring in 2020, and then needed Kyrie to match his scoring in 2016 and destroy Curry

So Lebron never won titles while carrying the team, aka without dominant sidekicks

2much_knowledge

10-15-2021, 09:38 PM

I don't know the answer to that one

But its suspect that 2 of his rings came in short seasons

The other 2, season saving 3s by a teammate.

It is what it is.

8Ball

10-15-2021, 09:56 PM

collusion isn't against the nbas tampering policy for players. it's still collusion by definition. and it would be classified as tampering if the nba acknowledged that lebron is the real head of clutch sports agency and he just put his friend rich Paul in charge so he could get steroids off the books and recruit players from other teams and have a way to communicate trades and signings/perks with them without anything being directly linked to lebron or his teams

its manipulation of the leagues rulebook and basically a mafia structure to evade charges.

lebron is a criminal and should be investigated by the league, IRS and banned for life for steroids ontop.

By definition: What LeBron did doesn't qualify.

8Ball

10-15-2021, 09:57 PM

But since we're going to play this game...

2000: Kobe averaged 15 PPG and needed to be carried by Shaq.

2001: Faced one of the weakest NBA Finals opponents in history.

2002: Series against the Kings was confirmed to be rigged.

2009: Benefited from facing another weak finals opponent in Orlando.

2010: Had to be bailed out by his teammates after putting on one of the worst game 7 performances of all time.

6/24 can never be explained away no matter what.

SaintzFury13

10-15-2021, 10:56 PM

welcome to your death

Challenge accepted bitch boy.

how is that an asterisk, anomaly, fake season, rigging? sorry its just a clean ring with me as a sidekick and saving the wcf leading us in points, rebounds, assists and blocks and saving the nba finals in game 4 with shaq out. i averaged 23ppg for the season, 21ppg for the playoffs and 19ppg in the finals. the 15ppg isn't accurate because i didn't play in game 2 after my ankle injury in the 1st quarter. to disqualify me for a 19ppg finals is basically contradicting the importance of pau gasol. another guy that averaged 19ppg and came up big for an important game and was the clear #2 and also didn't win finals mvp. so if i didn't do sh*t for the 2000 title neither did pau for 2009 or 2010. you lose

If none of this qualifies as an anomaly, then LeBron having back to back 40 point performances and a triple double in a three game win streak comeback to take 2016 automatically disqualifies that from being an anomaly. You are now acknowledging that how you play matters. In 2016, LeBron played far greater basketball than Kobe ever did in any NBA Finals series.

In other words, you lose.

well that trashes shaqs finals mvp. thanks for proving my point for me. you're right. i dominated the 2001 playoffs leading us past portland, sacramento and sanantonio so shaq could hijack finals mvp vs one of the worst finals opponents in history. again not cheating in any way. no colluding. in fact we let glen rice walk to save money so i had to go from averaging 21ppg in the playoffs to averaging 29ppg. you lose

And you did it again, saying exactly what I wanted you to say without even realizing it. By stating this, you are now in fact acknowledging that the competition you face matters. In 2016, LeBron's Cavaliers faced a team that was clearly superior to theirs and came out victorious. Even if LeBron did collude (which he didn't), it didn't even matter because his competition was still superior, and guess what? He won. Kobe has never been able to say this in his entire career.

In other words, you lose.

the series was indeed rigged. but not for the lakers overall. it was rigged to go 7 due to the nets finals not predicting to make any money. we had game 6 in our favor. the kings had game 5 in their favor. then game 7 was pretty much reffed even and the kings just choked going like 2 for 20 from 3 and 14 for 30 from the line. the kings actually shot more free throws than we did for the series. you lose

None of this matters. The series was confirmed to be rigged. You lose.

even if this were true.. again...how is this cheating?. they beat the #1 team in the league and reigning league mvp didn't they. thats lebrons fault. and dwight was actually really good back then. you should know. he slapped your idol silly. if you wanna bring up level of competition need i remind you i beat 24 teams with 50+ wins to make 7 finals and your guy beat 14 teams with 50+ wins to make 10 finals. you lose

Oh I'm sorry, since when do you care about whether or not it's cheating? You clearly don't, since you continue to accuse LeBron of doing that even though he never did. If you're going to ignore all aspects of reality, then so am I. You can't have it both ways.

everyone played bad during the first 3 quarters of game 7. pierce and allen combined for 8 for 30 so they basically voided my bad shooting. then during the last 15 minutes i dominated and won the series for my team according to rajon rondo. i had a hand in every play on both ends

Allen and Pierce are not top 15 all time players. Kobe Bryant is. There is no excuse for Kobe to play this terribly in a situation like this after having been to the finals as many times as he had been.

I am not going to read your idiotic break down of that game. We've all seen it. It doesn't excuse shooting 6/24 for the game and needing his teammates to bail him out.

And by the way, you still avoided my question. So I'm going to ask it again, in bold.

What proof do you have that LeBron called Adam Silver and asked him to suspend Draymond? Give us proof or admit you're a lying sack of shit. Until you do this, you will continue to be the one who loses here.

8Ball

10-15-2021, 11:01 PM

Saintzfury just went 2000-2002 finals Shaq level curb stomp on Kenny.

tpols

10-15-2021, 11:07 PM

welcome to your death

how is that an asterisk, anomaly, fake season, rigging? sorry its just a clean ring with me as a sidekick and saving the wcf leading us in points, rebounds, assists and blocks and saving the nba finals in game 4 with shaq out. i averaged 23ppg for the season, 21ppg for the playoffs and 19ppg in the finals. the 15ppg isn't accurate because i didn't play in game 2 after my ankle injury in the 1st quarter. to disqualify me for a 19ppg finals is basically contradicting the importance of pau gasol. another guy that averaged 19ppg and came up big for an important game and was the clear #2 and also didn't win finals mvp. so if i didn't do sh*t for the 2000 title neither did pau for 2009 or 2010. you lose

well that trashes shaqs finals mvp. thanks for proving my point for me. you're right. i dominated the 2001 playoffs leading us past portland, sacramento and sanantonio so shaq could hijack finals mvp vs one of the worst finals opponents in history. again not cheating in any way. no colluding. in fact we let glen rice walk to save money so i had to go from averaging 21ppg in the playoffs to averaging 29ppg. you lose

the series was indeed rigged. but not for the lakers overall. it was rigged to go 7 due to the nets finals not predicting to make any money. we had game 6 in our favor. the kings had game 5 in their favor. then game 7 was pretty much reffed even and the kings just choked going like 2 for 20 from 3 and 14 for 30 from the line. the kings actually shot more free throws than we did for the series. you lose

even if this were true.. again...how is this cheating?. they beat the #1 team in the league and reigning league mvp didn't they. thats lebrons fault. and dwight was actually really good back then. you should know. he slapped your idol silly. if you wanna bring up level of competition need i remind you i beat 24 teams with 50+ wins to make 7 finals and your guy beat 14 teams with 50+ wins to make 10 finals. you lose

everyone played bad during the first 3 quarters of game 7. pierce and allen combined for 8 for 30 so they basically voided my bad shooting. then during the last 15 minutes i dominated and won the series for my team according to rajon rondo. i had a hand in every play on both ends

2010 NBA finals Game 7:
3:09 left in 3rd - MY 2 point shot ( boston 56 - lakers 49 )
2:21 left in 3rd - MY 11th rebound
1:10 left in 3rd - MY pass to odom for 2 point layup ( boston 57 - lakers 53 )
8:46 left in 4th - MY 3 points, fouled on shot ( boston 59 - lakers 58 )
5:56 left in 4th - MY 12th rebound
5:56 left in 4th - MY 2 points. fouled on shot ( boston 64 - Lakers 66 )
5:36 left in 4th - MY 13th rebound
5:23 left in 4th - MY 2 point jumpshot ( boston 64 - Lakers 68 )
5:01 left in 4th - MY 14th rebound
4:39 left in 4th - MY assist to Gasols 2 free throws ( boston 64 - lakers 70 )
4:20 left in 4th - MY 15th rebound
3:21 left in 4th - MY 1 point, fouled on dunk attempt ( boston 66 - lakers 71 )
2:47 left in 4th - MY assist to Gasols 2 free throws ( boston 68 - lakers 73 )
1:01 left in 4th - MY assist to Artests 3 pointer ( Boston 73 - Lakers 79 )
0:25 left in 4th - MY 2 points, fouled on drive attempt ( boston 76 - lakers 81 )

It’s interesting, I just found out something about Kobe, what he did in the 2010 championship Game 7. How he broke the game down and figured out how to beat us. I can’t give you the insight on that, but I just found that out. Like, maybe 45 minutes ago. It kinda pissed me off a little bit. It’s part of it, but it’s craziness. It’s amazing how he thinks the game, and it’s fun to know that. … I don’t know if it was going into the game, but it was told to me that he had to figure it out during the game. He wasn’t himself. So he had to figure out a different way to win the game. - Rajon Rondo

you lose

Talk about an ETHER.

:lol

Saint where your punk ass at?

Kobe_Bryant

10-15-2021, 11:08 PM

By definition: What LeBron did doesn't qualify.

lebron admitted to it though. you don't speak for lebron. lebron does lol

RRR3

10-15-2021, 11:10 PM

Saintzfury just went 2000-2002 finals Shaq level curb stomp on Kenny.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Kenny thread where he doesn’t get brutally destroyed.

TheCorporation

10-15-2021, 11:22 PM

Can we just let the GOAT and the top 15 player out of the same conversation. Its embarrassing at this point. Kobe is arguing with David Robinson and Jerry West.

LeBron is arguing with Jordan and Kareem.

Spurs m8

10-15-2021, 11:26 PM

Well it's very interesting that he needed his sidekick to outscore the opposing #1 option in 2013 Finals, and then needed AD to lead the whole league in playoff scoring in 2020, and then needed Kyrie to match his scoring in 2016 and destroy Curry

So Lebron never won titles while carrying the team, aka without dominant sidekicks

3ball still putting all the bron stans in a body bag lmao

Kobe_Bryant

10-16-2021, 12:19 AM

Challenge accepted.

big mistake

If none of this qualifies as an anomaly, then LeBron having back to back 40 point performances and a triple double in a three game win streak comeback to take 2016 automatically disqualifies that from being an anomaly. You are now acknowledging that how you play matters. In 2016, LeBron played far greater basketball than Kobe ever did in any NBA Finals series.

In other words, you lose.

i don't think you know what that word means

https://i.imgflip.com/1l0ff8.jpg

"a·nom·a·ly
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noun
1.
something that deviates from what is standard, normal, or expected."

- a sidekick that performs very well isn't an anomaly

- someone calling adam silver to get the other teams finals mvp candidate suspended however IS. lebrons titles come with stuff that almost never happens any other year. thats why its an anomaly

you lose

And you did it again, saying exactly what I wanted you to say without even realizing it. By stating this, you are now in fact acknowledging that the competition you face matters. In 2016, LeBron's Cavaliers faced a team that was clearly superior to theirs and came out victorious. Even if LeBron did collude (which he didn't), it didn't even matter because his competition was still superior, and guess what? He won. Kobe has never been able to say this in his entire career.

In other words, you lose.

how are you facing your competition when that competition is suspended. or injured like bogut and iguodala. or choking historically like every other finals he participates in with curry. sorry but that "73 win team" had an inflated record because currys style only works when theres barely any defense being played. like every game during the regular season since the banana boat/load management/3 ball era started. whenever players and teams like that get into the playoffs they usually fold and mid range/slashers take over. thats why with durant they had a worse regular season record and performed better in the playoffs with elevated defensive pressure. and that historic 73 win teams big 3 was outscored by lebron, kyrie and love and kyrie massively outperformed curry. you didn't set a very good trap because the nba finals isn't supposed to be the only tough series you play. lebron was practically gifted a finals appearance every single year since he stole ray allen from boston. thats not very impressive. hence the 24 teams with 50+ wins eliminated by me vs 14 for lebron.

you lose

None of this matters. The series was confirmed to be rigged. You lose.

you're right it was. to go 7. its the classic extend the series nba shtick that has gone on for decades. do you think tim donaghy and the nbas referees only ever had one job one time back in 2002. you know it goes deeper than lakers kings right? lol. they've been giving home court advantage since as early as i can remember for a reason. some referees bet on games knowing this is utilized to make more money for the league. its not like the refs are swayed by the home crowd alone. use your damn brain. games 2, 3 and 5 were massively in favor of sac.

Game 2:

Lakers 90 - Kings 96

Lakers FTA - 25

Kings FTA - 38

13 more free throws for a 6 point victory

Game 3:

Lakers 90 - Kings 103

Lakers FTA - 15

Kings FTA - 35

20 more free throw attempts for a 13 point victory

Game 5:

Lakers 91 - Kings 92

Lakers FTA - 23

Kings FTA - 33

10 more free throws for a 1 point victory. now imagine its even.

you lose

Oh I'm sorry, since when do you care about whether or not it's cheating? You clearly don't, since you continue to accuse LeBron of doing that even though he never did. If you're going to ignore all aspects of reality, then so am I. You can't have it both ways.

signing players to your "friends" agency and using your friend to initiate a trade demand to your team IS CHEATING

having rich paul pick up steroids for "LJ and being linked to a miami steroid clinic with jameer nelson in 2013 IS CHEATING

calling up adam silver and demanding he suspend Green for game 5 because brian windhorst showed him a video of their altercation after the game in the locker room and having your demand granted even after referees deemed it a play on and not worthy of a technical because lebron sat on draymonds head IS CHEATING

calling kevin love to work out a trade for andrew wiggins prior to rookies being eligible to be involved in deals in order to assure himself of another big 3 collusion prior to him officially committing to the cavs IS CHEATING

you lose

Allen and Pierce are not top 15 all time players. Kobe Bryant is. There is no excuse for Kobe to play this terribly in a situation like this after having been to the finals as many times as he had been.

I am not going to read your idiotic break down of that game. We've all seen it. It doesn't excuse shooting 6/24 for the game and needing his teammates to bail him out.

Roid played like i did for the first 3 quarters during the first 6 games of 2013 and entire series in 2015 shooting 29% from beyond 5 feet and being basically dared to shoot wide open by pop. then completely shut down from getting to the rim by iggy and losing finals mvp to a damn role player. and 2011 is even worse than all of these due completely shitting the bed. you nitpick my wins. how about what lebron did for entire series that needed a miracle by ray allen to save from disaster or actually LOSING the series because of his ineptitude.

I SAVED my team in the end. ask rondo. Roid put all the nails in his coffin in 07, 11, 13 and 15 and was lucky enough to get bailed out of one of them.

you lose

What proof do you have that LeBron called Silver and asked him to suspend Green? Give us proof or admit you're a lying sack of shit. Until you do this, you will continue to be the one who loses here.

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/report-cavs-lobbied-draymond-get-two-game-suspension

Two days after the Warriors took a 3-1 lead in the 2016 NBA Finals, the league suspended Draymond Green for Game 5.T

If the Cavs got their way, he wouldn't have been able to play in Game 6, either.

Cleveland lobbied for a two-game suspension, according to ESPN's Zach Lowe.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/7swdng/draymonds_anger_with_windhorst_has_nothing_to_do/

Draymond's anger with Windhorst has nothing to do with the refs and everything to do with Windhorst costing Draymond a championship.

Windhorst appeared on Sportcenter with SVP moments after the end of game 4 of the 2016 Finals and made the Draymond flail a national story/topic. Windhorst actually was the one who showed Lebron the flail. Windhorst said himself, "Lebron did not see it or notice it until I showed it to him on my phone". The "I am a father of 3" press conference doesn't happen without Windhorst. Also the night of game 4 of the 2016 Finals, the top front page story on ESPN.com was a Windhorst article saying Draymond should be suspended for either 1 or 2 games for the flail. The article was posted 36 hours before the league even officially handed down a ruling. Reporters should be unbiased. Brian Windhorst is not. You would be angry at the propaganda machine of the team you have played in the Finals the last 3 years as well.

YOU LOSE

bullettooth

10-16-2021, 01:05 AM

LeBron has colluded every year since 'The Decision'... the guy feels like he's entitled to rings and the media needs someone to propup for ratings and advertising money like they had with MJ... except MJ wasn't a glorified loser.

Axe

10-16-2021, 07:44 AM

Kobe never won a ring for the franchise that drafted him.

Btw, has anyone seen kawhileonard2 aka duncan21formvp recently?

SaintzFury13

10-16-2021, 09:08 AM

Talk about an ETHER.

:lol

Saint where your punk ass at?

I literally responded to his post immediately you dumbass. Do you not know how to read?

SaintzFury13

10-16-2021, 09:10 AM

big mistake

i don't think you know what that word means

https://i.imgflip.com/1l0ff8.jpg

I know what an anomaly is. Thanks for being stupid enough to post this to show us exactly why 2012 and 2013 are not, and cannot, be anomalies going by the definition you provided. Collusion never happened, and even if they did, they were still regular NBA Finals series, nothing out of the ordinary. Maybe you're just not used to seeing someone like LeBron dominate in the fashion he does. Maybe that's the anomaly, because you know, Kobe's never been able to dominate in that kind of fashion. In that case, I can understand the confusion.

- a sidekick that performs very well isn't an anomaly

15 PPG isn't performing very well.

- someone calling adam silver to get the other teams finals mvp candidate suspended however IS. lebrons titles come with stuff that almost never happens any other year. thats why its an anomaly

:roll:

Yeah, no, I'm not reading the rest of your post until you prove LeBron called Silver, and got Draymond suspended. Give us the proof, or it didn't happen.

SaintzFury13

10-16-2021, 09:20 AM

So Lebron never won titles while carrying the team, aka without dominant sidekicks

2012 says hi.

ELITEpower23

10-16-2021, 10:19 AM

ELITEpower23

10-16-2021, 10:20 AM

big mistake

i don't think you know what that word means

https://i.imgflip.com/1l0ff8.jpg

- a sidekick that performs very well isn't an anomaly

- someone calling adam silver to get the other teams finals mvp candidate suspended however IS. lebrons titles come with stuff that almost never happens any other year. thats why its an anomaly

you lose

how are you facing your competition when that competition is suspended. or injured like bogut and iguodala. or choking historically like every other finals he participates in with curry. sorry but that "73 win team" had an inflated record because currys style only works when theres barely any defense being played. like every game during the regular season since the banana boat/load management/3 ball era started. whenever players and teams like that get into the playoffs they usually fold and mid range/slashers take over. thats why with durant they had a worse regular season record and performed better in the playoffs with elevated defensive pressure. and that historic 73 win teams big 3 was outscored by lebron, kyrie and love and kyrie massively outperformed curry. you didn't set a very good trap because the nba finals isn't supposed to be the only tough series you play. lebron was practically gifted a finals appearance every single year since he stole ray allen from boston. thats not very impressive. hence the 24 teams with 50+ wins eliminated by me vs 14 for lebron.

you lose

you're right it was. to go 7. its the classic extend the series nba shtick that has gone on for decades. do you think tim donaghy and the nbas referees only ever had one job one time back in 2002. you know it goes deeper than lakers kings right? lol. they've been giving home court advantage since as early as i can remember for a reason. some referees bet on games knowing this is utilized to make more money for the league. its not like the refs are swayed by the home crowd alone. use your damn brain. games 2, 3 and 5 were massively in favor of sac.

Game 2:

Lakers 90 - Kings 96

Lakers FTA - 25

Kings FTA - 38

13 more free throws for a 6 point victory

Game 3:

Lakers 90 - Kings 103

Lakers FTA - 15

Kings FTA - 35

20 more free throw attempts for a 13 point victory

Game 5:

Lakers 91 - Kings 92

Lakers FTA - 23

Kings FTA - 33

10 more free throws for a 1 point victory. now imagine its even.

you lose

signing players to your "friends" agency and using your friend to initiate a trade demand to your team IS CHEATING

having rich paul pick up steroids for "LJ and being linked to a miami steroid clinic with jameer nelson in 2013 IS CHEATING

calling up adam silver and demanding he suspend Green for game 5 because brian windhorst showed him a video of their altercation after the game in the locker room and having your demand granted even after referees deemed it a play on and not worthy of a technical because lebron sat on draymonds head IS CHEATING

calling kevin love to work out a trade for andrew wiggins prior to rookies being eligible to be involved in deals in order to assure himself of another big 3 collusion prior to him officially committing to the cavs IS CHEATING

you lose

Roid played like i did for the first 3 quarters during the first 6 games of 2013 and entire series in 2015 shooting 29% from beyond 5 feet and being basically dared to shoot wide open by pop. then completely shut down from getting to the rim by iggy and losing finals mvp to a damn role player. and 2011 is even worse than all of these due completely shitting the bed. you nitpick my wins. how about what lebron did for entire series that needed a miracle by ray allen to save from disaster or actually LOSING the series because of his ineptitude.

I SAVED my team in the end. ask rondo. Roid put all the nails in his coffin in 07, 11, 13 and 15 and was lucky enough to get bailed out of one of them.

you lose

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/report-cavs-lobbied-draymond-get-two-game-suspension

Two days after the Warriors took a 3-1 lead in the 2016 NBA Finals, the league suspended Draymond Green for Game 5.T

If the Cavs got their way, he wouldn't have been able to play in Game 6, either.

Cleveland lobbied for a two-game suspension, according to ESPN's Zach Lowe.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/7swdng/draymonds_anger_with_windhorst_has_nothing_to_do/

Draymond's anger with Windhorst has nothing to do with the refs and everything to do with Windhorst costing Draymond a championship.

YOU LOSE

We got this boi on puffed up size 5 fonts. He's really hurting now :oldlol:

baudkarma

10-16-2021, 11:22 AM

I'm just to drop this little gem in here to lighten the mood a bit. People get so tense!

A brief (30 second) clip from Kobes pre-draft workout with the Clippers.

https://clipperholics.com/2021/10/13/la-clippers-kobe-bryant-draft-workout-video/

Kobe_Bryant

10-16-2021, 11:25 AM

I know what an anomaly is. Thanks for being stupid enough to post this to show us exactly why 2012 and 2013 are not, and cannot, be anomalies going by the definition you provided. Collusion never happened, and even if they did, they were still regular NBA Finals series, nothing out of the ordinary. Maybe you're just not used to seeing someone like LeBron dominate in the fashion he does. Maybe that's the anomaly, because you know, Kobe's never been able to dominate in that kind of fashion. In that case, I can understand the confusion.

15 PPG isn't performing very well.

:roll:

Yeah, no, I'm not reading the rest of your post until you prove LeBron called Silver, and got Draymond suspended. Give us the proof, or it didn't happen.

you obviously don't know.what anomaly means because you compared my 2000 ring to lebrons 2012 and 2013 rings

an anomaly is when something that almost never happens takes place. and during those years a lockout shortened season took place that condensed the games to back to back to backs a lot of the time that eliminated older teams due to not having sufficient recovery time. and then there's the never before seen 3 superstar prime collusion via free agency which also almost never takes place. and then ray Allen's finals saving 3 which also almost never takes place. these were all anomalies by definition

me being a sidekick averaging 23 during the season, 21 during the playoffs and 19 during the finals has all been done before and isn't some all time fluke almost never before seen shit that needed a miracle

the only miracles that year was me saving shaq in 2000 wcf game 7 then 2000 finals game 4. a 21 year old only did that once before and his name was magic.

and bosh already admitted they colluded the season prior which is why lebron said he was switching to number 6 way before ever signing with Miami. because they already coined the "3 kings" Bible nickname and their numbers represented 3:16. and it was also evident due to Jordan's #23 already being retired.

you lose again kiddo

and if you kept reading you would have seen the part where I explained the whole "lebron called silver" cause of windhorst

technically it just says the cavs contacted silver and lobbied for 2 games but only got one. but you know who they were speaking on behalf of.

https://i.ibb.co/1RwGXTw/Screenshot-20211016-111334-Samsung-Internet.jpg

SaintzFury13

10-16-2021, 11:58 AM

you obviously don't know.what anomaly means because you compared my 2000 ring to lebrons 2012 and 2013 rings

And you obviously don't know what collusion means because that's what you keep calling what happened with LeBron, Wade, and Bosh.

You cited collusion, lockout shortened season and ray allen's shots as proof that the 2012 and 2013 rings are anomalies. Collusion never happened. Lockout shortened season literally has nothing to do with the finals. And one play doesn't make something an anomaly.

So if you aren't going to go by the actual definition of an anomaly, then neither will I.

an anomaly is when something that almost never happens takes place. and during those years a lockout shortened season took place that condensed the games to back to back to backs a lot of the time that eliminated older teams due to not having sufficient recovery time. and then there's the never before seen 3 superstar prime collusion via free agency which also almost never takes place. and then ray Allen's finals saving 3 which also almost never takes place. these were all anomalies by definition

None of those qualify as anomalies.

Almost no player, team or coach uses a lockout shortened season as an excuse for losing in the playoffs. That's one of the most idiotic things I've ever heard. Not to mention, yes, the season was condensed, but by playoff time, it was back to a regular schedule anyways. The Spurs, despite this lockout shortened season, still had the number one seed in the West. So going by your own logic, it ended up not even mattering. They won the most games when the schedule was at its most condensed, and then they lost when they had the most rest. You tell me why the lockout excuse applies here.

And yeah, the never before seen collusion, because it never happened. Again, learn what collusion means.

Ray Allen's one three pointer does not qualify an entire series as an anomaly. If you are going by one play, then every single NBA Finals in the history of the game is an anomaly.

me being a sidekick averaging 23 during the season, 21 during the playoffs and 19 during the finals has all been done before and isn't some all time fluke almost never before seen shit that needed a miracle

A 15 PPG sidekick needing someone like Shaq to carry the team in the historic fashion that he did is absolutely an anomaly. Don't be a retard.

the only miracles that year was me saving shaq in 2000 wcf game 7 then 2000 finals game 4. a 21 year old only did that once before and his name was magic.

We are not talking about the playoffs beforehand in that year. Kobe got carried in 2000. Get over it.

and bosh already admitted they colluded the season prior

No, they didn't.

and if you kept reading you would have seen the part where I explained the whole "lebron called silver" cause of windhorst

technically it just says the cavs contacted silver and lobbied for 2 games but only got one. but you know who they were speaking on behalf of.

https://i.ibb.co/1RwGXTw/Screenshot-20211016-111334-Samsung-Internet.jpg

This is your proof?

Where do I even begin with this?

Well for starters, the very first link you post is from a reporter for the Warriors who flat out states that the CAVALIERS called Silver, and this is according to Zach Lowe. In other words, no confirmation that this conversation actually took place. But I'll be nice and give him the benefit of the doubt. Guess what? That means LeBron didn't call Silver. You already lose. But we'll continue.

Second, look at the second link you sent. Read the comments. Literally everyone is laughing at the notion that Brian Windhorst cost Draymond Green a championship. Numerous, and I mean NUMEROUS people were pointing out what Draymond did at the time that it happened, before Windhorst even talked about it. NBA fans around the world were calling for Green to be suspended because, yeah, no shit. That's as obvious as a flagrant as it gets and he was on his last strike. In other words, Draymond fukked himself over and got himself suspended because he, like you, is an idiot.

Third, I call absolute bullshit on LeBron not noticing that Draymond swiped at him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxvpmbFyfEM

LeBron literally turns around, and gets right in Draymond's face right after he does it. He knew it happened, otherwise he wouldn't have confronted Draymond about it in the first place.

So you give me two sources, both of which are obvious bullshit, but worst of all, NEITHER of them claim LeBron called Silver.

So this entire time, you continuously made the claim that LeBron called Silver and got Draymond suspended. Not only did you fail to prove this, but your own sources that YOU provided (consisting of a reporter for the Warriors and a fukking Reddit comment) make it perfectly clear that LeBron had nothing to do with his suspension.

You're an idiot. And a joke. And by the way, you lost, again.

Kobe_Bryant

10-16-2021, 01:20 PM

And you obviously don't know what collusion means because that's what you keep calling what happened with LeBron, Wade, and Bosh.

You cited collusion, lockout shortened season and ray allen's shots as proof that the 2012 and 2013 rings are anomalies. Collusion never happened. Lockout shortened season literally has nothing to do with the finals. And one play doesn't make something an anomaly.

So if you aren't going to go by the actual definition of an anomaly, then neither will I.

None of those qualify as anomalies.

Almost no player, team or coach uses a lockout shortened season as an excuse for losing in the playoffs. That's one of the most idiotic things I've ever heard. Not to mention, yes, the season was condensed, but by playoff time, it was back to a regular schedule anyways. The Spurs, despite this lockout shortened season, still had the number one seed in the West. So going by your own logic, it ended up not even mattering. They won the most games when the schedule was at its most condensed, and then they lost when they had the most rest. You tell me why the lockout excuse applies here.

And yeah, the never before seen collusion, because it never happened. Again, learn what collusion means.

Ray Allen's one three pointer does not qualify an entire series as an anomaly. If you are going by one play, then every single NBA Finals in the history of the game is an anomaly.

A 15 PPG sidekick needing someone like Shaq to carry the team in the historic fashion that he did is absolutely an anomaly. Don't be a retard.

We are not talking about the playoffs beforehand in that year. Kobe got carried in 2000. Get over it.

No, they didn't.

This is your proof?

Where do I even begin with this?

Well for starters, the very first link you post is from a reporter for the Warriors who flat out states that the CAVALIERS called Silver, and this is according to Zach Lowe. In other words, no confirmation that this conversation actually took place. But I'll be nice and give him the benefit of the doubt. Guess what? That means LeBron didn't call Silver. You already lose. But we'll continue.

Second, look at the second link you sent. Read the comments. Literally everyone is laughing at the notion that Brian Windhorst cost Draymond Green a championship. Numerous, and I mean NUMEROUS people were pointing out what Draymond did at the time that it happened, before Windhorst even talked about it. NBA fans around the world were calling for Green to be suspended because, yeah, no shit. That's as obvious as a flagrant as it gets and he was on his last strike. In other words, Draymond fukked himself over and got himself suspended because he, like you, is an idiot.

Third, I call absolute bullshit on LeBron not noticing that Draymond swiped at him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxvpmbFyfEM

LeBron literally turns around, and gets right in Draymond's face right after he does it. He knew it happened, otherwise he wouldn't have confronted Draymond about it in the first place.

So you give me two sources, both of which are obvious bullshit, but worst of all, NEITHER of them claim LeBron called Silver.

So this entire time, you continuously made the claim that LeBron called Silver and got Draymond suspended. Not only did you fail to prove this, but your own sources that YOU provided (consisting of a reporter for the Warriors and a fukking Reddit comment) make it perfectly clear that LeBron had nothing to do with his suspension.

You're an idiot. And a joke. And by the way, you lost, again.

again.. you obviously don't know what anomaly means because lebrons titles always come with random almost never before alterations to the regular season or his teams or a title saving circumstance that is extremely rare. how many lockouts are there. how many bubbles are there. how many ray allen/kyrie irving shots are there. how many prime colluded big 3s are there. it's an anomaly because you can literally count all of them on one hand

and no my ring in 2000 isn't an anomaly because there's been dozens of all time great playoff performances by Jordan, Shaq, Hakeem, Wade, Barry, west, lebron himself with sidekicks that contributed around what I did or even sometimes less and what makes up for me being a sidekick is the playoff saving moments where had I not taken over then shaq doesn't win. I earned my ring by giving us a 2nd a 3rd chance basically. like you said yourself shaq won finals mvps vs weak finals competition while I put the team on my back vs Portland, Sacramento and sanantonio all 3 years more often than shaq did. because shaq is a choker that underperformed under pressure. hes always come up small against the spurs and in big important games. he only plays historically great when it's a stiff trying to defend him. it's impossible for shaq to carry me because he needed me. simple as that. don't believe me then check his history without me or an all time great wade. lottery, swept or gentleman swept every single year

and if the cavs called silver. lebron called silver. because they spoke on behalf of lebron and he did that "im a man with kids" speech so it was driven by him. he was triggered by the windhorst cellphone video in the locker room and the cavs don't contact league office to demand a suspension without lebron being triggered. he initiated it. he caused the suspension. he endorsed a longer suspension. the league folded to lebrons demands as per usual

you lose... again..

you've officially lost more than lebron.. congrats

SaintzFury13

10-17-2021, 02:18 PM

again.. you obviously don't know what anomaly means

Lmao no, I'm not wasting my time on someone who starts their post off with this again. You don't know what an anomaly is. You aren't consistent with your arguments. And worst of all, you can't even provide legitimate evidence to claims you make. You are a joke and you have lost, badly. I don't know why someone spends their free time pretending to be a dead NBA player on a website filled with people just as stupid as he is. Maybe because you think their low IQ will cause them to think you actually are Kobe Bryant. But guess what? Even they aren't buying it.

I've humored you for long enough. I'm moving on. Enjoy this L you have received. You aren't the first one to receive one at my hands and you won't be the last, so welcome to the club, Kenny.