NBA reveals Top 75 Greatest Players of All-Time

[L.Kizzle]

Here are the first 25 names released:


Part 1
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Giannis antetokounmpo
Nate Archibald
Charles Barkley
Bob Cousy
Dave Cowens
Kevin Durant
Julius Erving
George Gervin
Hal Greer
James Harden
Elvin Hayes
Jerry Lucas
Moses Malone
Kevin McHale
George Mikan
Steve Nash
Dirk Nowitzki
Hakeem Olajuwon
Bob Pettit
Willis Reed
David Robinson
Bill Russell
John Stockton



So far, nothing stands out other than 5 recent players and the other 20 from the NBA at 50 list.

[bladefd]

The only player I don't recognize from that list is Hal Greer. The rest of the list is good tbh.

[L.Kizzle]

There is a commercial with Miller and Rodman. Not sure if that means they made the cut?

[Phoenix]

There is a commercial with Miller and Rodman. Not sure if that means they made the cut?

Both are easily top 75.

[L.Kizzle]

Both are easily top 75.
True. But that means they're subtracting from the 50 list instead of just adding. Not cool.
Imagine being Lenny Wilkens and seeing you're not on the 75 list.

[Phoenix]

True. But that means they're subtracting from the 50 list instead of just adding. Not cool.
Imagine being Lenny Wilkens and seeing you're not on the 75 list.

Or they're two of the 25 added to who is already there from the original list. I agree it's otherwise fukked up to remove guys who are already there, but the reality is there's a number of guys on the OG list who have been passed by newer players over the last 25 years.

[L.Kizzle]

Or they're two of the 25 added to who is already there from the original list. I agree it's otherwise fukked up to remove guys who are already there, but the reality is there's a number of guys on the OG list who have been passed by newer players over the last 25 years.

They should just add 25 players since the original 25 and not go back. Sorry Nique and McAdoo.

[bizil]

Let's say the original 50 greatest ALL stay on the list. Have there been 25 players SINCE THEN who have had better careers than Nique or McAdoo thus far? HELL NO!!!! Or Rodman and Miller? HELL NO! So all four of those legends should be in the 75!

[L.Kizzle]

Let's say the original 50 greatest ALL stay on the list. Have there been 25 players SINCE THEN who have had better careers than Nique or McAdoo thus far? HELL NO!!!! Or Rodman and Miller? HELL NO! So all four of those legends should be in the 75!
There have been 25 yes, I agree.


Kidd
Grant Hill
KG
Kobe
Nash
AI
Ben Wallace
Duncan
McGrady
Pierce
Vince
Dirk
Manu
Parker
Yao
LeBron
Wade
Bosh
Melo
Dwight
CP3
KD
Harden
Westbrook
Love
Curry
Kyrie
Blake
Paul George
Leonard
Dame
Giannis

This is 32 players right here. And I'm pretty sure I'm missing a few.
Not sure about guys like Reggie and Payton who were still in middle of their careers. Wilkens career was over in 96, basically.

[L.Kizzle]

Part 2

Michael Jordan
Scottie Pippen
Larry Bird
Isiah Thomas
Clyde Drexler
Karl Malone
Patrick Ewing
Robert Parish
Sam Jones
John Havlicek
Bill Walton
Bill Sharman
Walt Frazier
Wes Unseld
Paul Arizin
Rick Barry
Nate Thurman
Kevin Garnett
Chris Paul
Allen Iverson
James Worthy
Magic Johnson
Wilt Chamberlin
Jerry West
Tim Duncan

[bizil]

There have been 25 yes, I agree.


Kidd
Grant Hill
KG
Kobe
Nash
AI
Ben Wallace
Duncan
McGrady
Pierce
Vince
Dirk
Manu
Parker
Yao
LeBron
Wade
Bosh
Melo
Dwight
CP3
KD
Harden
Westbrook
Love
Curry
Kyrie
Blake
Paul George
Leonard
Dame
Giannis

This is 32 players right here. And I'm pretty sure I'm missing a few.
Not sure about guys like Reggie and Payton who were still in middle of their careers. Wilkens career was over in 96, basically.

So you are telling me all 32 of those guys you listed have had BETTER CAREERS than Nique or McAdoo at this current stage?? No way!!

[bizil]

Problem with these lists are putting TOO MUCH of an emphasis on rings. Rings are very important no doubt. BUT how is Robert Parish a greater player than Nique or Bob McAdoo?? Parish was NEVER REGARDED as a superstar level player. Not even close. Nique and McAdoo were SUPERSTAR PLAYERS! First Team All NBA guys at their peak. Guys who changed the game of basketball. And in Nique's case was one of the KEY STARS in that Golden Era NBA to be a box office force. And grow the game. Parish on this type of list over a Nique or McAdoo is ridiculous.

[L.Kizzle]

So you are telling me all 32 of those guys you listed have had BETTER CAREERS than Nique or McAdoo at this current stage?? No way!!
Lol, no. Just saying they all have legitimate shots of being named to the team.

[Xiao Yao You]

So you are telling me all 32 of those guys you listed have had BETTER CAREERS than Nique or McAdoo at this current stage?? No way!!

Dominique is certainly on any list of most overrated. Another high scoring SF

[L.Kizzle]

Interesting take so far. Just 9 players from recent years have been selected. 41 from the original 50 list.

So tomorrow will be I'm assuming the other 9 from the 50 list and 16 new players. Now will these 16 be all recent players or some from the past.


9 holdovers from original 50 list.
Dave Bing
Billy Cunningham
Dave DeBusschere
Shaq
Lenny Wilkens
Pistol Pete
Earl Monroe
Elgin Baylor
Dolph Schayes

[ELITEpower23]

Let's say the original 50 greatest ALL stay on the list. Have there been 25 players SINCE THEN who have had better careers than Nique or McAdoo thus far? HELL NO!!!! Or Rodman and Miller? HELL NO! So all four of those legends should be in the 75!

Miller??? HELL NO!!!

[tanibanana]

I hope the 100 list will be made this way. So that new players who bumped the OG list gets what they deserve.

[L.Kizzle]

I hope the 100 list will be made this way. So that new players who bumped the OG list gets what they deserve.
What do you mean? So far, no one has been bumped off. Tho we won't officially know until tomorrow.

[tanibanana]

What do you mean? So far, no one has been bumped off. Tho we won't officially know until tomorrow.
Yes, so far. But that was the main reason behind the “redo” of the list.
I feel tomorrow we will see 2 names remove from the original list.
The older the NBA gets, sooner or later they need to bumped off someone. Actually I feel Bing & Parish has to go, or perhaps 25 years later.

[L.Kizzle]

Yes, so far. But that was the main reason behind the “redo” of the list.
I feel tomorrow we will see 2 names remove from the original list.
The older the NBA gets, sooner or later they need to bumped off someone. Actually I feel Bing & Parish has to go, or perhaps 25 years later.
You don't bump off, you add. Imagine an act being taking off the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame for a newer band to take their place.
I understand out with the old, in with the new. But not that way lol.

[tanibanana]

You don't bump off, you add. Imagine an act being taking off the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame for a newer band to take their place.
I understand out with the old, in with the new. But not that way lol.
That is the beauty of it. We add new great players... and if somehow a few names from the old list “seem” not at par with the others anymore, even with the new players, would’nt it be nice to keep just the creme of the crop.
May not happen today, but 25/50/75 years from now it will.

[Phoenix]

That is the beauty of it. We add new great players... and if somehow a few names from the old list “seem” not at par with the others anymore, even with the new players, would’nt it be nice to keep just the creme of the crop.
May not happen today, but 25/50/75 years from now it will.

Nah, if anything that's disrespectful to the legacy/history of the game. Having a list that's rotating players on and off every quarter century, may as well not even bother.

[bizil]

Nah, if anything that's disrespectful to the legacy/history of the game. Having a list that's rotating players on and off every quarter century, may as well not even bother.

I get that for sure. But let's face it, that 50 Greatest List ALSO had Lenny Wilkens on the list ahead of Nique and McAdoo. Lenny NEVER made one All NBA team. Never won a ring. Never was a face of the league. So how does he make the 50 greatest ahead of Nique and McAdoo. I think Nique and McAdoo should have been in ahead of Parish as well. BUT AT LEAST Parish has 3 rings and 2 All NBA teams to his fame. Along with 7 All Star Games. Just have a tough time with true SUPERSTAR guys like Nique and McAdoo left off the list. For guys that aren't on their level as players. But get in because they have a ring or two. Or in the case of Lenny, friends in high places.

[L.Kizzle]

I get that for sure. But let's face it, that 50 Greatest List ALSO had Lenny Wilkens on the list ahead of Nique and McAdoo. Lenny NEVER made one All NBA team. Never won a ring. Never was a face of the league. So how does he make the 50 greatest ahead of Nique and McAdoo. I think Nique and McAdoo should have been in ahead of Parish as well. BUT AT LEAST Parish has 3 rings and 2 All NBA teams to his fame. Along with 7 All Star Games. Just have a tough time with true SUPERSTAR guys like Nique and McAdoo left off the list. For guys that aren't on their level as players. But get in because they have a ring or two. Or in the case of Lenny, friends in high places.
True, but Lenny (like Nique I think) came in 2nd in MVP voting in 68 I believe.

How he didn't make 1st team that season (or any team) beats me.

[1987_Lakers]

I suspect Lenny Wilkins got named in the 50 players list because he became a hall of fame head coach which kept him relevant among fans and media, no way should he have been named top 50 over Nique & McAdoo.

[L.Kizzle]

I suspect Lenny Wilkins got named in the 50 players list because he became a hall of fame head coach which kept him relevant among fans and media, no way should he have been named top 50 over Nique & McAdoo.
Nique was famous and McAdoo MVP.

But Lenny was also a 9 times All-Star (same as Nique.)

I would love to see the voting results. Like who was 49 picked 50th and the first one left off. Hell, it may be neither Nique or Mac. Might be Tommy Heinsohn or Gail Goodrich or Alex English.

[bizil]

Nique was famous and McAdoo MVP.

But Lenny was also a 9 times All-Star (same as Nique.)

I would love to see the voting results. Like who was 49 picked 50th and the first one left off. Hell, it may be neither Nique or Mac. Might be Tommy Heinsohn or Gail Goodrich or Alex English.

Yep but Nique made 7 All NBA teams. Nique was a WAY MORE revolutionary type force on the game than Lenny EVER WAS! What Dr. J did for the gliding one foot amazing hops for wing players, Nique did the same for the power vertical hops for wing players. From there, MJ came down the pike and was the sick combination of both forms of hops. Plus Nique was all over the posters, VHS tapes, commercials, etc. the league put out. Nique was EIGHT ALL TIME in scoring when the 50 greatest list came out in 97. HANDS DOWN Nique was more deserving than Lenny Wilkens! If you NEVER MADE one All NBA team, u don't deserve to be on the list!!

Can't name many SF's who have the combination of at least 9 All Star teams and 7 time All NBA like Nique. I would venture to say less that 10 SF's in HISTORY have the combo of the two. So we are talking Bron, KD, Doc, Bird, Hondo, and Elgin type guys. NOW LOOK AT who those guys ALSO had the luxury to play with. And compare it to Nique's cast of characters! All the guys I named ALSO got to play some of the 75 greatest in their primes! Every last guy I named got that luxury! Nique didn't play with ANY in their primes! Moses was way past his prime at that point!

[L.Kizzle]

Yep but Nique made 7 All NBA teams. Nique was a WAY MORE revolutionary type force on the game than Lenny EVER WAS! What Dr. J did for the gliding one foot amazing hops for wing players, Nique did the same for the power vertical hops for wing players. From there, MJ came down the pike and was the sick combination of both forms of hops. Plus Nique was all over the posters, VHS tapes, commercials, etc. the league put out. Nique was EIGHT ALL TIME in scoring when the 50 greatest list came out in 97. HANDS DOWN Nique was more deserving than Lenny Wilkens! If you NEVER MADE one All NBA team, u don't deserve to be on the list!!

Can't name many SF's who have the combination of at least 9 All Star teams and 7 time All NBA like Nique. I would venture to say less that 10 SF's in HISTORY have the combo of the two. So we are talking Bron, KD, Doc, Bird, Hondo, and Elgin type guys. NOW LOOK AT who those guys ALSO had the luxury to play with. And compare it to Nique's cast of characters! All the guys I named ALSO got to play some of the 75 greatest in their primes! Every last guy I named got that luxury! Nique didn't play with ANY in their primes! Moses was way past his prime at that point!
Oh, I have Nique over Lenny as well. Just don't like the idea of an old timer taking a new guy's spot (and I'm all for old timer as you should know.)
But as I stated before, not right to add Nique and McAdoo and not take a look at English, Gilmore, Heinsohn, Dantley, Bob Lanier and others not on the original 50 list.

[bizil]

Oh, I have Nique over Lenny as well. Just don't like the idea of an old timer taking a new guy's spot (and I'm all for old timer as you should know.)
But as I stated before, not right to add Nique and McAdoo and not take a look at English, Gilmore, Heinsohn, Dantley, Bob Lanier and others not on the original 50 list.

I agree with that! I just think Nique and McAdoo were the biggest snubs.

[Xiao Yao You]

the only reason could see taking guys off the list and adding guys that didn't make it would be analytics and Wilkens isn't an advanced stat darling. Dantley is though. Wilkens just had the hype. The Carmelo of his day

[L.Kizzle]

Kobe
LeBron
Westbrook
Kawhi
Steph

Locks from the new era should be announced today.

I'm not even sure guys like Ray Allen or Carmelo are locks in this thing.

Gonna be more snubs than just Nique and McAdoo this time.

[bladefd]

Part 2

Michael Jordan
Scottie Pippen
Larry Bird
Isiah Thomas
Clyde Drexler
Karl Malone
Patrick Ewing
Robert Parish
Sam Jones
John Havlicek
Bill Walton
Bill Sharman
Walt Frazier
Wes Unseld
Paul Arizin
Rick Barry
Nate Thurman
Kevin Garnett
Chris Paul
Allen Iverson
James Worthy
Magic Johnson
Wilt Chamberlin
Jerry West
Tim Duncan

Don't think I heard of a Bill Sharman. Paul Arizin I have seen his name before but don't think I know him.

Rest of the list is obvious. So 3 people I don't recognize so far (Hal Greer)..

[bladefd]

Interesting take so far. Just 9 players from recent years have been selected. 41 from the original 50 list.

So tomorrow will be I'm assuming the other 9 from the 50 list and 16 new players. Now will these 16 be all recent players or some from the past.


9 holdovers from original 50 list.
Dave Bing
Billy Cunningham
Dave DeBusschere
Shaq
Lenny Wilkens
Pistol Pete
Earl Monroe
Elgin Baylor
Dolph Schayes

I better see the bold ones make it in. The other 3 are arguable. I don't recognize Dave Bing or Dolph Schayes..

[bizil]

Congrats Nique! Well deserved! Shout out to Rodman too for making it! I knew you couldn't have a 75 without those two.

[bladefd]

I suspect Lenny Wilkins got named in the 50 players list because he became a hall of fame head coach which kept him relevant among fans and media, no way should he have been named top 50 over Nique & McAdoo.

On talent merely as a player, he doesn't deserve it. But he did advance the game forward. He was a great leader both as a player and coach. If we are just considering his accolades as a player, I won't be angry at all if he is left off. Let's just see who is left off first.

[L.Kizzle]

Congrats Nique! Well deserved! Shout out to Rodman too for making it! I knew you couldn't have a 75 without those two.
I see Nique and Rodman named. What about McAdoo tho? I haven't seen him listed yet.

[bladefd]

Where do I see who got added? I missed most of the TNT tip-off

edit: https://www.nba.com/75

[bizil]

I see Nique and Rodman named. What about McAdoo tho? I haven't seen him listed yet.

McAdoo just got named to the 75

[bladefd]

I have a feeling there will be a lot of recent greats being left off and some bitter people :lol

[bizil]

I'm 4 for 4. Earlier in this thread I stated the list HAD TO HAVE Nique, McAdoo, Rodman, and Reggie. All four are in the 75 now!!

[expansionera]

Arguing Lenny Wilkens, Gary Payton or Jason Kidd is splitting hairs in my opinion. All of those guys are pretty much equivalent, trying to write out a top 100 list is nigh impossible people should just stick to top 25-50.

[bizil]

Arguing Lenny Wilkens, Gary Payton or Jason Kidd is splitting hairs in my opinion. All of those guys are pretty much equivalent, trying to write out a top 100 list is nigh impossible people should just stick to top 25-50.

Sorry Lenny AIN'T equivalent to Kidd and Payton. Lenny NEVER MADE 1 All NBA team in his career. NOT ONE! Payton and Kidd on the other hand BOTH made several! Just saying!

[Kobe_Bryant]

Part 2

Michael Jordan
Scottie Pippen
Larry Bird
Isiah Thomas
Clyde Drexler
Karl Malone
Patrick Ewing
Robert Parish
Sam Jones
John Havlicek
Bill Walton
Bill Sharman
Walt Frazier
Wes Unseld
Paul Arizin
Rick Barry
Nate Thurman
Kevin Garnett
Chris Paul
Allen Iverson
James Worthy
Magic Johnson
Wilt Chamberlin
Jerry West
Tim Duncan

still no Pau gasol. I'm sure he will make part 3

[bladefd]

So.. who got left off?

[L.Kizzle]

Dame Lillard made it. Shocked at that selection and AD somewhat.

[Kobe_Bryant]

So.. who got left off?

pau

:mad:

[L.Kizzle]

Melo over McGrady and Alex English.

Dame Lillard and Anthony Davis the biggest surprises tho.

[bladefd]

Melo over McGrady and Alex English.

Dame Lillard and Anthony Davis the biggest surprises tho.

Kyrie is probably pissed lol

[fsvr54]

Lillard :facepalm

[L.Kizzle]

Biggest snubs.

Tracy McGrady
Dwight Howard
Alex English
Adrian Dantley
Vince Carter

[RogueBorg]

So.. who got left off?

They showed a list of those who didn't make it.

Grant Hill
Vince Carter
Chris Mullin
Yao Ming
Penny Hardaway
Artis Gilmore

That's all I can remember real quick.

[L.Kizzle]

Lillard :facepalm
I've never even seen Dame on anyone's mock 75 list.
And how is Dwight not here. He has like five or six all nba 1st team selections. Smh.

[Dbrog]

At first glance, Lillard, Harden and Ray Allen are a bit of a farce. Obviously great players for various reasons but were any of them ever really better than Prime Yao or Tmac or Dwight?

[SaintzFury13]

Dwight Howard not making the list is incredibly laughable.

[L.Kizzle]

They added five guys to the list that were eligible for the 50th list in 96.

Bob McAdoo 72
Dominique Wilkins 82
Dennis Rodman 86
Reggie Miller 87
Gary Payton 90

[bladefd]

They added five guys to the list that were eligible for the 50th list in 96.

Bob McAdoo 72
Dominique Wilkins 82
Dennis Rodman 86
Reggie Miller 87
Gary Payton 90

Reggie didn't deserve it tbh.. Good player certainly, but I never thought that highly of him.

[RRR3]

No T-Mac or Dwight is a disgrace.

[L.Kizzle]

No T-Mac or Dwight is a disgrace.
And there is actually 76 players in the list. Smh at the NBA.
So they didn't add an extra in 50 but 76 for the 75 because of a tie.

[bladefd]

And there is actually 76 players in the list. Smh at the NBA.
So they didn't add an extra in 50 but 76 for the 75 because of a tie.

So nobody got removed? They just added 21 new players from 1996 to 2020 timeframe and 5 who were left off from original 50..

[L.Kizzle]

So nobody got removed? They just added 21 new players from 1996 to 2020 timeframe and 5 who were left off from original 50..
Would be ridiculous to remove anyone.
Don't like them taking away 5 current players to add old timers.

[Xiao Yao You]

At first glance, Lillard, Harden and Ray Allen are a bit of a farce. Obviously great players for various reasons but were any of them ever really better than Prime Yao or Tmac or Dwight?

Big Yao fan but he's not an all time great. Made a lot of all star teams because of the Chinese vote not because he deserved it

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

I'll echo what plenty others have said - AD and Lillard making it in is an embarrasment for whoever voted for this list. What an absolute disagrace to the league and insult to more deserving players like TMac, Mutombo, Mourning, Gasol, English, etc. Hell, even Klay deserves it over AD and Lillard.

[BigTicket]

People talk about the importance of defense all the time, but lists like this show how little credit defensive players get. There a 4 players in NBA history with 3 or more DPOY selections, and none of them are on the list of the top 75 players ever.

Dwight Howard in particular got really screwed here, he is 8x All-NBA including 5x1st team and 3xDPOY yet somehow not part of the top 75 ? For comparison there are multiple players included in the top 75 without any 1st team selections, yet Howard who has 5 got left off the list.

[outofstomach]

At first glance, Lillard, Harden and Ray Allen are a bit of a farce. Obviously great players for various reasons but were any of them ever really better than Prime Yao or Tmac or Dwight?
harden is an all time generational talent and nearly took down a dynasty as soon as he had sufficient help, extremely far from a “farce”

next time just say you have personal issues with harden

[SouBeachTalents]

At first glance, Lillard, Harden and Ray Allen are a bit of a farce. Obviously great players for various reasons but were any of them ever really better than Prime Yao or Tmac or Dwight?
Harden making this list is a farce? What a fcking retard :lol

[outofstomach]

Harden making this list is a farce? What a fcking retard :lolwanted to call him a retard too but restrained myself :lol

[SouBeachTalents]

wanted to call him a retard too but restrained myself :lol
Seriously, you could've cut the list in half and Harden still would've made it

[Phoenix]

Reggie didn't deserve it tbh.. Good player certainly, but I never thought that highly of him.

Nah Reggie should be on there, the problem is there's a few older players from like 60 years ago who have been passed up, but won't( rightfully) be removed from the list.

[Jasper]

Problem with these lists are putting TOO MUCH of an emphasis on rings. Rings are very important no doubt. BUT how is Robert Parish a greater player than Nique or Bob McAdoo?? Parish was NEVER REGARDED as a superstar level player. Not even close. Nique and McAdoo were SUPERSTAR PLAYERS! First Team All NBA guys at their peak. Guys who changed the game of basketball. And in Nique's case was one of the KEY STARS in that Golden Era NBA to be a box office force. And grow the game. Parish on this type of list over a Nique or McAdoo is ridiculous.

i hate threads like this :
Chief was the cornerstone of the frontline of the Celtics.
That frontline for a decade was considered the best in bball history.
(someone has to take less of a star role when the court the Celtics filled was full of shooters. )
Chief was the clog on defense , awesome rebounder, and ultimate weak side offensive player.
You are wrong about the chief.

[Mr. Woke]

I'll echo what plenty others have said - AD and Lillard making it in is an embarrasment for whoever voted for this list. What an absolute disagrace to the league and insult to more deserving players like TMac, Mutombo, Mourning, Gasol, English, etc. Hell, even Klay deserves it over AD and Lillard.

AD is a top 75 player of all time (he is more deserving than all the guys you listed lol).

Dame doesn't belong in the top 75 list though.

[bizil]

i hate threads like this :
Chief was the cornerstone of the frontline of the Celtics.
That frontline for a decade was considered the best in bball history.
(someone has to take less of a star role when the court the Celtics filled was full of shooters. )
Chief was the clog on defense , awesome rebounder, and ultimate weak side offensive player.
You are wrong about the chief.

How I am wrong??? Chief was NEVER a superstar caliber player. Not even close to one. BUT he was FOR DAMN SURE an All Star caliber center. So I gave him props, Chief was an elite player. An HOFer who deserved that nod. But the point was Parish DIDN'T deserve to make the 50 greatest ahead of Nique and McAdoo. Now that Nique and McAdoo made the 75, they righted that wrong. Nique and McAdoo were top 10 player in the league type guys. Guys who win scoring titles. Guys who win MVP (McAdoo) or is 1st runner up (Nique). And finished top 5 in MVP voting multiple times.

Nique and McAdoo were superstars! Parish wasn't! Parish had the great fortune of playing on a dynasty. Great for him! But Nique NEVER came close to playing a team stacked like Boston or the Lakers! Yet he got labeled not a winner. And got robbed of 50 Greatest, 1st Ballot HOF,etc.BECAUSE of bull shit out of his damn control!!! So happy Nique and McAdoo got on the 75!

[bizil]

Big Howard should have made that list. And I don't get how Dame can make the list over Kyrie. Kyrie is already a world champ, 7 time All Star, All Star game MVP, has the nastiest handles ever. And offensively is the most skilled PG ever. So Howard was the biggest snub. After that a top 75 list without a Vince Carter and T Mac doesn't seem right to me. Guys who win rings BUT COULDN'T carry a franchise or weren't all time great dominant at anything ruin lists like this. Or guys like a Lenny Wilkens who NEVER made an All NBA team ruin the list. Rodman was an all time great dominant rebounder and defender. So he NEEDS to be on the list. For me personally, Lenny Wilkens or Parish shouldn't be on the 50 or 75 greatest list.

[L.Kizzle]

Still don't see how Dame made it. Might as well have put Paul George in as well.

New era of past 25 years only got 20 players. Not cool. Should have been 25.

[Dbrog]

Big Yao fan but he's not an all time great. Made a lot of all star teams because of the Chinese vote not because he deserved it

He was probably the only person other than Hakeem to be able to matchup with Shaq and even win the battle at times. I think that should count for something. I guess I look at peaks and what they did against other top75 players when I think of who should make this list

[Dbrog]

harden is an all time generational talent and nearly took down a dynasty as soon as he had sufficient help, extremely far from a “farce”

next time just say you have personal issues with harden

What has Harden won? You said it yourself NEARLY took down a dynasty...he chokes when the lights are brightest. Deal with it. It's like, if you are comparing him to Pierce or something on this list, Pierce has many more moments of clutch and has the hardware to back it up. Please learn some history before you speak again

[bdonovan]

The full Top 75 List
https://twitter.com/NBAPR/status/1451325463436091394/photo/1

The ones I'm not certain about:
* Kevin McHale: Averaged less than 18 points a game and only about 7 rebounds despite his position. Memorable name, won championships but not sure he's a top 75.
* Paul Pierce: Despite being known for 3 pters, shot less than 37% at that range over his career. High FG attempts responsible for high scoring.
* Russell Westbrook: Yes if this list is about stats, no if it's about overall impact

[bladefd]

The full Top 75 List
https://twitter.com/NBAPR/status/1451325463436091394/photo/1

The ones I'm not certain about:
* Kevin McHale: Averaged less than 18 points a game and only about 7 rebounds despite his position. Memorable name, won championships but not sure he's a top 75.
* Paul Pierce: Despite being known for 3 pters, shot less than 37% at that range over his career. High FG attempts responsible for high scoring.
* Russell Westbrook: Yes if this list is about stats, no if it's about overall impact

I do agree on pierce and Westbrook. Both extremely overrated. Pierce wasn't even the best player on the Celtics championship roster. Westbrook tends to be empty triple-doubles but doesn't impact the game very much (last few months of last season is probably an exception).

[bizil]

Come on now! LMAO Westbrook's numbers accolades DICTATE he was a LOCK for the 75 team! GOAT status factors numbers, solo accolades, team accoaldes, peak-prime value, longevity being great, and impact on the league. Russ doesn't have the rings. But in all the other categories, he has them IN SPADES! If Russ isn't your type of PG or player, then cool. BUT u can't take away what he's done in the league. Top 10 GOAT PG, the triple double king, and the most freakish athletic PG ever!

McHale (before Barkley and Mailman got rolling) was the best PF on the planet. IF he had to be the #1 guy on a team, I have NO DOUBT he would have absolutely dominated. Plus he was a tremendous defender too. Who defended SF, PF, and C.

When McHale was coming off the bench early in his career, it was because Boston wanted to start Bird at the PF. NO SHAME coming off the bench behind Bird. When Bird made the All Defensive Team, it was when he was at the PF. Bird defended PF's BETTER than he defended SF's. But his offensive skillset was more similar to a wing player. So he was a huge mismatch for PF's to guard. And if u put the SF on him, Bird had the crazy size advantage. At either forward spot, Bird was phenomenal.

When McHale started, he proved how great he was. Late in his career, it was more about durability issues why he came off the bench. But when he came into the league, Bird at the PF was the reason he was off the bench.

[bison]

is robert parish better than dwight all time?

[Gudo]

Dave Debusschere? Are we just being nostalgic here?

[ImKobe]

is robert parish better than dwight all time?

No. His numbers were worse in an era that had a higher pace/worse D. Only 2x All-NBA too. 3 more rings but the last one was less impactful than Dwight's LA ring and he played on one of the 2 most stacked rosters in the league in his absolute prime which is like putting Dwight in place of Bosh in Miami in '11 or in place of Bynum in LA in '09.

[bizil]

is robert parish better than dwight all time?


HELL NO!!!! I don't think Parish should have been on the 50 greatest team. Let alone this one. No doubt Chief was very good. A consistent All Star type. But an All Star and a superstar are two different levels. Howard (despite his scoring skillset woes) was a superstar. A consistent 20 PPG 13 RPG DPOY superstar! And among the most athletic true centers to ever play. Despite his durability issues, he accomplished so much when he was in his prime. Dwight was a top 5-10 player in the league at one point. Hands down the top center in the league and Led a team to the Finals.

Parish was never close to that level of player. He was very good just not great! I just have a problem with very good players getting in OVER superstar level guys. Even in the case of Rodman, u could ARGUABLY SAY he's the best rebounding forward ever, the best defensive forward ever, and the most versatile defender ever. With five rings, a shitload of rebounding titles, and 2 DPOYs. So Rodman (despite being non-existent as a scorer) EASILY makes a 75 list. Because he was an all time great in key categories. AND has a ton of rings. Parish wasn't ALL TIME GREAT in any category. Didnt' revolutionize the game either.