View Full Version : China erases Celtics media after Enes Kanter called Xi Jinping a “brutal dictator"
iamgine
10-21-2021, 01:10 PM
https://twitter.com/EnesKanter/status/1450869180283203589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1450869180283203589%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsports.yahoo.com%2Fenes-kanter-china-tibet-nba-celtics-135506956.html
The NBA's Chinese broadcast partner abruptly erased Boston Celtics highlights and live streams from its website and app on Thursday, not long after Celtics center Enes Kanter called China's leader, Xi Jinping, a “brutal dictator."
Kanter, in multiple social media posts on Wednesday, spoke out against "cultural genocide" in Tibet, an autonomous region to the west of China where the Chinese government has cracked down on freedoms and exerted control.
Should the NBA just pull out of China?
HoopsNY
10-21-2021, 01:25 PM
https://twitter.com/EnesKanter/status/1450869180283203589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1450869180283203589%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsports.yahoo.com%2Fenes-kanter-china-tibet-nba-celtics-135506956.html
Should the NBA just pull out of China?
Well, they have 2 million people in concentration camps. It's a modern day Holocaust against the Uyghur people. The league should absolutely stop doing business with these genocidal maniacs.
j3lademaster
10-21-2021, 01:32 PM
I think they should, but it's never going to happen. It's like asking Nike to stop using sweat shops aka modern slavery. They don't give a shit as long as the $$$ keeps coming in.
Patrick Chewing
10-21-2021, 01:51 PM
Why does the NBA care about China so much?? Associate yourselves with other countries other than that Communist shithole.
FultzNationRISE
10-21-2021, 02:14 PM
Well, they have 2 million people in concentration camps. It's a modern day Holocaust against the Uyghur people. The league should absolutely stop doing business with these genocidal maniacs.
But the rest of America shouldnt?
Imagine pretending you actually care more deep down about ughular muslims than having an iphone and shoes and a toaster for your sandwiches.
Cmon now.
Les B. Cereal
ralph_i_el
10-21-2021, 02:29 PM
Well, they have 2 million people in concentration camps. It's a modern day Holocaust against the Uyghur people. The league should absolutely stop doing business with these genocidal maniacs.
*according to the US State Department lol
DoctorP
10-21-2021, 02:35 PM
China like:
https://c.tenor.com/gW5PopIPxrsAAAAM/di-caprio-godo.gif
Shogon
10-21-2021, 02:35 PM
I think they should, but it's never going to happen. It's like asking Nike to stop using sweat shops aka modern slavery. They don't give a shit as long as the $$$ keeps coming in.
Do you consume products that were made in sweat shop type conditions? I already know the answer because you're on the internet, lol.
Just embrace it. Stop fighting it.
Shogon
10-21-2021, 03:06 PM
Yeah Kanter tweeted those words on a phone made in china probably lol
https://i.postimg.cc/ZKbJbcLB/lmaooo.png
:roll:
Shogon
10-21-2021, 03:09 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/nrLS5Cvz/lmaoooo2.jpg
You could make the argument that he's "forced" to wear the jerseys.
But not the shoes... and certainly not this undershirt.
At the end of the day, if you dig even an inch down, most people are just completely brimming to the ears full of shit moron dipshits, and Enes Kanter is no exception.
Shogon
10-21-2021, 03:15 PM
But the rest of America shouldnt?
Imagine pretending you actually care more deep down about ughular muslims than having an iphone and shoes and a toaster for your sandwiches.
Cmon now.
Les B. Cereal
100%.
Holy **** people are so absolutely full of shit.
bison
10-21-2021, 03:20 PM
I didn’t know Kanter plays for the CIA now.
bison
10-21-2021, 03:20 PM
Well, they have 2 million people in concentration camps. It's a modern day Holocaust against the Uyghur people. The league should absolutely stop doing business with these genocidal maniacs.
Imagine being this gullible.
FKAri
10-21-2021, 04:07 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/ZKbJbcLB/lmaooo.png
:roll:
I don't get it. Why is it a binary situation? Do we all have to be monks living in the mountains before we can call out Xi Jinping?
Shogon
10-21-2021, 04:26 PM
he's promoting XI's empire and also denouncing at the same time... it's just so ridiculous.
This is exactly correct.
Shogon
10-21-2021, 04:33 PM
I don't get it. Why is it a binary situation? Do we all have to be monks living in the mountains before we can call out Xi Jinping?
It's not a 100% binary situation, but in this particular case, it's close enough. Everything in life is on a spectrum.
But if you feel strongly enough about it that you feel the need to insert your opinion publicly and essentially make a big deal of it and cost your employer money and create unnecessary drama, walk the walk. Don't be a walking hypocritical piece of shit. Don't benefit from those goods. Don't benefit from that country.
Don't personally benefit from the labor of oppressed people that are producing cheap/stylish goods and then publicly denounce their country as well.
Enes Kanter personally consumes goods and pays for things that put money into Xi's pockets. If you really find their government so abhorrent, don't consume the goods. Don't support it. That's fine. Total respect for that.
We all make mistakes, but I don't respect people that virtue signal publicly without putting true thought and action behind their words.
There's not as much nuance to be had here as you're making it out to be. He's just full of shit and that's it.
As far as addressing your nuance comment directly, as I said, you could make the argument that he's forced to wear the jersey and the shorts... but he absolutely is not forced to wear the shoes or the undershirt or any other slave labor good he consumes. Nothing is forcing him.
Basically what Enes Kanter is doing is sort of like... he's buying and eating beef and chicken all the time while also publicly campaigning for how awful the cows and chickens are being treated at animal farms while continuing to fund said farms by consuming the product. This isn't a perfect comparison because he's not complaining about factory workers in China specifically, but it's close enough.
FKAri
10-21-2021, 04:45 PM
he's promoting XI's empire and also denouncing at the same time... it's just so ridiculous. At least don't wear the nike's and try something made in the USA or Taiwan or something. Practice what you preach, eh?
And now he's going to cost his employer some $$$ :lol
He's not even preaching. He's just talking. It's like complaining that your boss is a piece of shit but still going in to work. Pretty normal. Just because you're a party to something doesn't mean you have to like it.
97 bulls
10-21-2021, 04:58 PM
Our country silenced our own President for saying something that the left disagreed with.
Shogon
10-21-2021, 05:00 PM
Just because you're a party to something doesn't mean you have to like it.
But that's the thing, all of the things he is "party to"... he doesn't have to be. He's willfully choosing to.
Does it suck that some kid is sweating his ass off and breaking his back in a factory overseas so that I can benefit from goods at a reduced cost to myself?
Yes, that does suck! But do I really actually at the end of the day give a shit? No, I don't! And so you won't see me virtue signal about it. Because I don't care. Because I'm honest about it. Enes Kanter doesn't actually give a **** either. Not really.
And this mother****er has earned 100 million over the course of his career... he for DAMN sure doesn't have to participate in anything he doesn't want to. He will be able to put food in his mouth and his family's and provide for all of their needs for the rest of his life. He is financially free, potential bad personal decisions aside, of course.
It's not a 100% binary situation, but in this particular case, it's close enough. Everything in life is on a spectrum.
But if you feel strongly enough about it that you feel the need to insert your opinion publicly and essentially make a big deal of it and cost your employer money and create unnecessary drama, walk the walk. Don't be a walking hypocritical piece of shit. Don't benefit from those goods. Don't benefit from that country.
Don't personally benefit from the labor of oppressed people that are producing cheap/stylish goods and then publicly denounce their country as well.
Enes Kanter personally consumes goods and pays for things that put money into Xi's pockets. If you really find their government so abhorrent, don't consume the goods. Don't support it. That's fine. Total respect for that.
We all make mistakes, but I don't respect people that virtue signal publicly without putting true thought and action behind their words.
There's not as much nuance to be had here as you're making it out to be. He's just full of shit and that's it.
As far as addressing your nuance comment directly, as I said, you could make the argument that he's forced to wear the jersey and the shorts... but he absolutely is not forced to wear the shoes or the undershirt or any other slave labor good he consumes. Nothing is forcing him.
Basically what Enes Kanter is doing is sort of like... he's buying and eating beef and chicken all the time while also publicly campaigning for how awful the cows and chickens are being treated at animal farms while continuing to fund said farms by consuming the product. This isn't a perfect comparison because he's not complaining about factory workers in China specifically, but it's close enough.
Ethical consumption under capitalism is impossible.
FultzNationRISE
10-21-2021, 05:16 PM
Ethical consumption under capitalism is impossible.
Existence is pain
Shogon
10-21-2021, 05:24 PM
Ethical consumption under capitalism is impossible.
That's not true. You're just making excuses for your consumption habits and lifestyle.
Insert reasons about...
Yeah but I don't want to be bored.
Yeah but I *absolutely must* be able to text message people and talk on my cellular phone.
Yeah but I don't want to pay more.
Yeah but, yeah but... blah blah blah.
You're just rationalizing.
Life isn't fair bro and that has nothing to do with capitalism.
The free market is as fair as it's going to get. We just have to reduce the size of government in most instances and we'll all be alright.
And if you think capitalism is unethical, go to another country that you think is more ethical.
"Yeah, but..."
Charlie Sheen
10-21-2021, 05:31 PM
That's not true. You're just making excuses for your consumption habits and lifestyle.
Insert reasons about...
Yeah but I don't want to be bored.
Yeah but I *absolutely must* be able to text message people and talk on my cellular phone.
Yeah but I don't want to pay more.
Yeah but, yeah but... blah blah blah.
You're just rationalizing.
Life isn't fair bro and that has nothing to do with capitalism.
The free market is as fair as it's going to get. We just have to reduce the size of government in most instances and we'll all be alright.
And if you think capitalism is unethical, go to another country that you think is more ethical.
"Yeah, but..."
It is true if you're poor. Ethical alternatives don't really exist at that price level.
Shogon
10-21-2021, 05:32 PM
It is true if you're poor. Ethical alternatives don't really exist at that price level.
It's just not true. Like not at all true. There is always a way. People just don't want to take that way... because that way sucks.
But there is always a way.
If you think I'm wrong, let's get into specifics. If I'm wrong, I'll own it... let's see.
Charlie Sheen
10-21-2021, 05:37 PM
It's just not true. Like not at all true. There is always a way. People just don't want to take that way... because that way sucks.
But there is always a way.
If you think I'm wrong, let's get into specifics. If I'm wrong, I'll own it... let's see.
You think the person living at the poverty line can shop on etsy for clothing? After housing, there's very little money left in a budget for needs like clothing. It's almost always going to come down to the cheapest option.
SATAN
10-21-2021, 06:00 PM
https://twitter.com/EnesKanter/status/1450869180283203589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1450869180283203589%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsports.yahoo.com%2Fenes-kanter-china-tibet-nba-celtics-135506956.html
Should the NBA just pull out of China?
Yes.
You think the person living at the poverty line can shop on etsy for clothing? After housing, there's very little money left in a budget for needs like clothing. It's almost always going to come down to the cheapest option.
He’s not very smart.
j3lademaster
10-21-2021, 06:15 PM
I don't get it. Why is it a binary situation? Do we all have to be monks living in the mountains before we can call out Xi Jinping?Yes. Grow your own food, make your own clothes out of hemp you farm and hunt like a real man. But first you have to buy a piece of land to do that on, which is subscribing to a capitalist idea of land being something one owned. What to do, what to do...
FultzNationRISE
10-21-2021, 06:47 PM
Yes. Grow your own food, make your own clothes out of hemp you farm and hunt like a real man. But first you have to buy a piece of land to do that on, which is subscribing to a capitalist idea of land being something one owned. What to do, what to do...
You could easily just wander out into some remote woodland and do this without anyone bothering you about buying the land.
The reason nobody does it is because nobody actually wants to live that way.
iamgine
10-22-2021, 12:01 AM
I don't get it. Why is it a binary situation? Do we all have to be monks living in the mountains before we can call out Xi Jinping?
Exactly. Bill Gates could donate billions of dollars to a cause and someone would say, "that's not even 20% of his money, he must not care that much".
Enes Kanter risk millions of future earnings and his and his family's well being by doing this.
bobopenguin
10-22-2021, 12:54 AM
bravo to this man who actually has balls to speak the truth.
Spurs m8
10-22-2021, 02:31 AM
If bald cvnt had even an ounce of integrity, he would just pull out if that modern day nazi Germany.
But he wants the $$$
So does Bron...guess they're both bald cvnts with no integrity
Mr. Woke
10-22-2021, 10:16 AM
Lol at Enes virtue signaling!
The fact of the matter is that the US has no moral high ground from where it can criticize China's human rights abuses.
The US government needs to drop the holier than thou schtick.
Mr. Woke
10-22-2021, 10:16 AM
Our country silenced our own President for saying something that the left disagreed with.
Trump incited an insurrection, you dumbass.
Akeem34TheDream
10-22-2021, 11:01 AM
Lol at Enes virtue signaling!
The fact of the matter is that the US has no moral high ground from where it can criticize China's human rights abuses.
The US government needs to drop the holier than thou schtick.
Cultural assimilation China forces on Uyghurs is worse than anything going on in the world atm. Its not even close. You might critize Europe and US, you can call them hypocrites but it doesn't change that fact. Shame on you for denying it.
Full Court
10-22-2021, 11:26 AM
It's pretty much impossible to not buy/wear/use anything made in China. That doesn't make his statement about Xi the dictator any less true.
ralph_i_el
10-22-2021, 11:42 AM
Cultural assimilation China forces on Uyghurs is worse than anything going on in the world atm. Its not even close. You might critize Europe and US, you can call them hypocrites but it doesn't change that fact. Shame on you for denying it.
1. Most of the claims about this are made up by US State Department adjacent sources.
2. More people than that are literally starving to death in Yemen.
Do you honestly believe that the US gives a damn about Chinese Muslims, while also funding and arming the Saudis so they can starve millions of Yemeni Muslims? Open your eyes, the intel community lies.
Akeem34TheDream
10-22-2021, 12:15 PM
1.And? Does that make it ok? There are people Uyghur people who escaped China. You should listen to some of the interviews. Its not just some US propaganda if that is what you mean. You cant go talk to Uyghurs in China. There are cops and cameras everywhere. That's not only like that in East Turkestan(Xinjiang) but whole China tbf. No privacy or liberty. Chinese people are hardworking but they have this culture that people are for the state. A strong state is the ultimate goal. So most don't really care for minorities or pressure they exert over Taiwan and Hong Kong. Communist regime get no backlash from their own people and other countries can't really sanction them since half of products in the world come from China.
2.Ok that might be worse but that is a civil war. This is a state vs minority case.
US doesn't care, yes. Yemen shit show is a product of the Iran Saudi proxy war. Iran backs Houthi militias and Saudis don't want a hostile country in their southern borders and bomb even civilians. Thats not relevant but ok. Shame on you for whats happening in China. I can write for hours about this subject but I dont have the time. You probably have some Chinese ancestry thats why you defend them blindly.
FultzNationRISE
10-22-2021, 12:19 PM
1. Most of the claims about this are made up by US State Department adjacent sources.
2. More people than that are literally starving to death in Yemen.
Do you honestly believe that the US gives a damn about Chinese Muslims, while also funding and arming the Saudis so they can starve millions of Yemeni Muslims? Open your eyes, the intel community lies.
They gave out a ton of money to random countries in order to “fight the Covid.”
I mean... youre a guy who believes Covid is about Covid. Surely the US was just dishing out those trillions to help people fight a terrible pandemic.
Si?
ralph_i_el
10-22-2021, 01:58 PM
1.And? Does that make it ok? There are people Uyghur people who escaped China. You should listen to some of the interviews. Its not just some US propaganda if that is what you mean. You cant go talk to Uyghurs in China. There are cops and cameras everywhere. That's not only like that in East Turkestan(Xinjiang) but whole China tbf. No privacy or liberty. Chinese people are hardworking but they have this culture that people are for the state. A strong state is the ultimate goal. So most don't really care for minorities or pressure they exert over Taiwan and Hong Kong. Communist regime get no backlash from their own people and other countries can't really sanction them since half of products in the world come from China.
2.Ok that might be worse but that is a civil war. This is a state vs minority case.
US doesn't care, yes. Yemen shit show is a product of the Iran Saudi proxy war. Iran backs Houthi militias and Saudis don't want a hostile country in their southern borders and bomb even civilians. Thats not relevant but ok. Shame on you for whats happening in China. I can write for hours about this subject but I dont have the time. You probably have some Chinese ancestry thats why you defend them blindly.
Have you ever been to China? I have. I'm not Chinese. I've just seen enough of the world to know that the US propaganda is very disconnected from real life. The US has a history of paying "refugees" to make up bullshit stories about regimes we don't like. There's some social media influencer going around right now (state department connected of course) saying that N. Korea only has one train and they make people push it because there's no fuel. They've done this shtick with every single "enemy" country since WW1. It's ****ing made up dude.
https://mronline.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/unnamed.png-copy.png
The guy in the middle is the source of the US claims of these "camps". His main source of data was scrubbing websites the Chinese government uses to solicit bids from construction companies, and piecing together that China was building lots of facilities in this region. He makes a leap and claims they are jails. He also took data of the implementation of IUDs in Xinxiang, and compared it to the rest of China, claiming it proved ethnic cleansing. What he didn't account for was that IUDs have been available in most of China for a while, so the net rate of their implementation (IUDs implanted minus IUDs removed) is about zero....but in Xinxiang it is a new thing so the net rate of implementation is much higher....for now....because there aren't a bunch of women that had them that can get them removed.
Pretty much every claim goes back to Zenz, who doesn't speak Chinese, and claims he got a flashdrive from an unknown source full of Chinese government documents that can't be verified as authentic. He claims he's on a mission from god to destroy communism. Zenz is now employed by the "Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation", which was created by the US Congress (specifically nutjobs Dana Rohrabacher, Steve Symms, and Jesse Helms)
The guy on the right is a Uyghur mercenary, funded by the US government. They're hanging out at the old CIA building together in this picture.
The CIA is rolling out the same playbook of funding Muslim extremists to destabilize our enemies, like we did with Afghanistan in the 80's to destabilize the USSR. Ended up working great for us, right?
ralph_i_el
10-22-2021, 01:59 PM
They gave out a ton of money to random countries in order to “fight the Covid.”
I mean... youre a guy who believes Covid is about Covid. Surely the US was just dishing out those trillions to help people fight a terrible pandemic.
Si?
No, the US will use any crisis as leverage to achieve political aims. Sometimes we induce the crisis and then use it, like how we sanctioned Venezuela, then use "humanitarian aid" as a way of sneaking in weapons.
All this shit is really hilarious when you consider that the US ACTUALLY has 2 million people in jail, and jails our citizens at the highest rate of any country.....and has a history of using our secret police to survey and entrap Muslims.
ralph_i_el
10-22-2021, 02:23 PM
Also Lol @ whining about China "exerting pressure on Taiwan".
Taiwan calls itself the "Republic of China" and claims sovereignty over the entirety of China. They lost the ****ing civil war. This is like the Confederacy surviving in the Florida Keys and claiming all of the South. How long would the US put up with that?
ralph_i_el
10-22-2021, 02:29 PM
https://i.ibb.co/0y6cC86/E8r31uo-WUAEhci-S.jpg (https://ibb.co/PGPNc3P)
Here's one of the cards you can play in a board game made by a "former" (you're never out) CIA agent in the early 2000's, about managing the political situation in Asia.
FultzNationRISE
10-22-2021, 02:43 PM
No, the US will use any crisis as leverage to achieve political aims. Sometimes we induce the crisis and then use it, like how we sanctioned Venezuela, then use "humanitarian aid" as a way of sneaking in weapons.
All this shit is really hilarious when you consider that the US ACTUALLY has 2 million people in jail, and jails our citizens at the highest rate of any country.....and has a history of using our secret police to survey and entrap Muslims.
So is Covid about Covid or nah?
Ill retire for a week if you answer the question directly and substantively.
ralph_i_el
10-22-2021, 02:44 PM
But is Covid about Covid?
Are you asking me if Covid is real?
Lol "retire" means nothing when you post on 5 accounts.
US aid to foreign countries is always either about influencing the country's politics, or making it easier for corporations to do business in the region. Even if the crisis is real, the intent is the same.
FultzNationRISE
10-22-2021, 02:52 PM
Are you asking me if Covid is real?
Lol "retire" means nothing when you post on 5 accounts.
There it is.
Dodging the real discussion so you can play both sides.
Biz. As. Usual.
So is Covid about Covid or nah?
Ill retire for a week if you answer the question directly and substantively.
What the hell is Covid???
Akeem34TheDream
10-22-2021, 02:56 PM
Also Lol @ whining about China "exerting pressure on Taiwan".
Taiwan calls itself the "Republic of China" and claims sovereignty over the entirety of China. They lost the ****ing civil war. This is like the Confederacy surviving in the Florida Keys and claiming all of the South. How long would the US put up with that?
They are not the ones getting ready for a war. China is. By the way you strike me as someone who values semocracy, human rights. What do you think about the human rights in China? Is an ordinary citizen allowed to criticize government? Can they protest without their social credit going down? Can they use internet freely? Anyway you keep being you, defend CCP everywhere you go. Maybe your credit will go up?
FultzNationRISE
10-22-2021, 02:57 PM
Are you asking me if Covid is real?
Lol "retire" means nothing when you post on 5 accounts.
US aid to foreign countries is always either about influencing the country's politics, or making it easier for corporations to do business in the region. Even if the crisis is real, the intent is the same.
Is Covid a real crisis? Is it a naturally occurring one?
8Ball
10-22-2021, 03:14 PM
This SOB hurting Bron money.
ralph_i_el
10-22-2021, 04:00 PM
Is Covid a real crisis? Is it a naturally occurring one?
I honestly have no idea if it is naturally occurring. I know some folks who died from it though.
ralph_i_el
10-22-2021, 04:01 PM
They are not the ones getting ready for a war. China is. By the way you strike me as someone who values semocracy, human rights. What do you think about the human rights in China? Is an ordinary citizen allowed to criticize government? Can they protest without their social credit going down? Can they use internet freely? Anyway you keep being you, defend CCP everywhere you go. Maybe your credit will go up?
Of course they aren't getting ready for war. They lost it already. They wouldn't exist if not for the US using them as a proxy to **** with China.
What do I think of human rights in China? They're bad in a lot of ways, and great in others. They've done a pretty great job at improving the quality of life of their citizens. Respect for individual rights has never been something that was built in one or two generations in any country. When you look at China's past, they have come a long way. I think it's hypocritical for people in the West to comment on human rights in China, considering our role in the Opium Wars and the Century of Humiliation. Sadly, most Americans have no idea about any history outside of our glorious triumphs in war :rolleyes:
I've been to a lot of cities. Beijing was the only one where I didn't see any homeless people. Poor people yes, but nobody homeless.
ralph_i_el
10-22-2021, 04:18 PM
Also LOL at knocking China for human rights as a way to support Taiwan....who has a really bad human rights record themselves (unless you ask the US government lol). Go look it up for yourself. They actually did ban entire languages, massacred 30k people, and use guest workers as slave labor. They have mandatory firing squads for drug possession.
Charlie Sheen
10-22-2021, 04:28 PM
Of course they aren't getting ready for war. They lost it already. They wouldn't exist if not for the US using them as a proxy to **** with China.
What do I think of human rights in China? They're bad in a lot of ways, and great in others. They've done a pretty great job at improving the quality of life of their citizens. Respect for individual rights has never been something that was built in one or two generations in any country. When you look at China's past, they have come a long way. I think it's hypocritical for people in the West to comment on human rights in China, considering our role in the Opium Wars and the Century of Humiliation. Sadly, most Americans have no idea about any history outside of our glorious triumphs in war :rolleyes:
I've been to a lot of cities. Beijing was the only one where I didn't see any homeless people. Poor people yes, but nobody homeless.
The visibility of homelessness in America isn't really reflected in my travels. There are homeless everywhere I've been, but you have to actually be looking for it to spot it. Just wanted to add because you didn't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
ralph_i_el
10-22-2021, 04:34 PM
The visibility of homelessness in America isn't really reflected in my travels. There are homeless everywhere I've been, but you have to actually be looking for it to spot it. Just wanted to add because you didn't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Good point. I'm just used to American style, very visible homelessness.
Mr. Woke
10-22-2021, 04:55 PM
Cultural assimilation China forces on Uyghurs is worse than anything going on in the world atm. Its not even close. You might critize Europe and US, you can call them hypocrites but it doesn't change that fact. Shame on you for denying it.
No it isn't lol.
Regime change/bombing the shit out of other countries/indirectly supporting genocide/etc. is just as bad.
Shame on you for denying that.
Mr. Woke
10-22-2021, 04:56 PM
Have you ever been to China? I have. I'm not Chinese. I've just seen enough of the world to know that the US propaganda is very disconnected from real life. The US has a history of paying "refugees" to make up bullshit stories about regimes we don't like. There's some social media influencer going around right now (state department connected of course) saying that N. Korea only has one train and they make people push it because there's no fuel. They've done this shtick with every single "enemy" country since WW1. It's ****ing made up dude.
https://mronline.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/unnamed.png-copy.png
The guy in the middle is the source of the US claims of these "camps". His main source of data was scrubbing websites the Chinese government uses to solicit bids from construction companies, and piecing together that China was building lots of facilities in this region. He makes a leap and claims they are jails. He also took data of the implementation of IUDs in Xinxiang, and compared it to the rest of China, claiming it proved ethnic cleansing. What he didn't account for was that IUDs have been available in most of China for a while, so the net rate of their implementation (IUDs implanted minus IUDs removed) is about zero....but in Xinxiang it is a new thing so the net rate of implementation is much higher....for now....because there aren't a bunch of women that had them that can get them removed.
Pretty much every claim goes back to Zenz, who doesn't speak Chinese, and claims he got a flashdrive from an unknown source full of Chinese government documents that can't be verified as authentic. He claims he's on a mission from god to destroy communism. Zenz is now employed by the "Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation", which was created by the US Congress (specifically nutjobs Dana Rohrabacher, Steve Symms, and Jesse Helms)
The guy on the right is a Uyghur mercenary, funded by the US government. They're hanging out at the old CIA building together in this picture.
The CIA is rolling out the same playbook of funding Muslim extremists to destabilize our enemies, like we did with Afghanistan in the 80's to destabilize the USSR. Ended up working great for us, right?
Great post.
fsvr54
10-22-2021, 05:09 PM
China is evil, make no ****ing mistake. Nobody can cope like a liberal. Biggest bitches the world has ever seen.
Mr. Woke
10-22-2021, 05:36 PM
China is evil, make no ****ing mistake. Nobody can cope like a liberal. Biggest bitches the world has ever seen.
By your logic, so is the U.S.
The conservatards are still coping after their daddy lost the election. They are the biggest bitches in the world.
fsvr54
10-22-2021, 05:48 PM
By your logic, so is the U.S.
The conservatards are still coping after their daddy lost the election. They are the biggest bitches in the world.
Nothing is perfect. Perfection doesn't exist outside of nature. Has the US done ****ed up things? Yes. But so has every nation/kingdom in the history of the world. The USA has been a beacon and shining example of freedom for the past 100+ years, despite not being perfect. There has always been a hegemon, that's how the world works, at one point is was Assyria, at one point is was Rome, England etc, since 1917, it's been the US.
Mr. Woke
10-22-2021, 05:54 PM
Nothing is perfect. Perfection doesn't exist outside of nature. Has the US done ****ed up things? Yes. But so has every nation/kingdom in the history of the world. The USA has been a beacon and shining example of freedom for the past 100+ years, despite not being perfect. There has always been a hegemon, that's how the world works, at one point is was Assyria, at one point is was Rome, England etc, since 1917, it's been the US.
No shit.
I simply refuse to shit on China for violating human rights when the US does that shit on a regular basis. That is hypocritical as hell.
fsvr54
10-22-2021, 05:58 PM
China is far worse. Nothing is black and white.
Although US is headed there because of Marxist infiltration since the 1920s.
ScottieQuitting
10-22-2021, 06:00 PM
Why does the NBA care about China so much?? Associate yourselves with other countries other than that Communist shithole.
Seriously. Scumbags. Meanwhile we have fake race bait BLM libtards exaggerating supposed racial issues here. While these players cough LeBron cough white knighr and defend an evil communist country that unleashed a pandemic and use LITERAL slave labor. Can’t make this level of two face-ness up.
Mr. Woke
10-22-2021, 06:00 PM
China is far worse. Nothing is black and white.
Although US is headed there because of Marxist infiltration since the 1920s.
The US is worse than China. China doesn't have the US's record of destabilizing countries/starting wars over the last several decades.
The US has already been infiltrated by power-hungry fascists.
Mr. Woke
10-22-2021, 06:01 PM
Seriously. Scumbags. Meanwhile we have fake face bait BLM libtards exaggerating supposed racial issues here. While these players cough LeBron cough white knighr and defend an evil communist country that unleashed a pandemic and use LITERAL slave labor. Can’t make this level of two face-ness up.
The US has no moral high ground here.
People like you are so disingenuous/brainwashed.
ScottieQuitting
10-22-2021, 06:08 PM
The US has no moral high ground here.
People like you are so disingenuous/brainwashed.
No what I just said is bang on accurate.
fsvr54
10-22-2021, 06:29 PM
A lefty will never have the right frame of mind.
Mr. Woke
10-22-2021, 06:30 PM
No what I just said is bang on accurate.
Not at all.
Conservatards are so delusional.
Mr. Woke
10-22-2021, 06:30 PM
A lefty will never have the right frame of mind.
*A righty will never have the right frame of mind.
How else can you explain them sucking off Donald Trump of all people?
Spurs m8
10-22-2021, 06:57 PM
The CCP are just Nazis with micro d1cks
Nothing is perfect. Perfection doesn't exist outside of nature. Has the US done ****ed up things? Yes. But so has every nation/kingdom in the history of the world. The USA has been a beacon and shining example of freedom for the past 100+ years, despite not being perfect. There has always been a hegemon, that's how the world works, at one point is was Assyria, at one point is was Rome, England etc, since 1917, it's been the US.
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Jesus Christ.
Spurs m8
10-22-2021, 07:57 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Jesus Christ.
This cvck reckons he's oppressed
Just because he hasn't made the most of his opportunities
Duhhhhh duhhhhhhhh durrrrrrr
:facepalm
Literally read a book about US history you retard.
tpols
10-22-2021, 08:02 PM
:facepalm
Literally read a book about US history you retard.
Wait a second... The USA government and their UN allies are a POS and filled with liars yet you still hang on their every word with regards to COVID and the current operation they have running?
:oldlol:
You played yourself dummy. Talk about a contradiction.
tpols
10-22-2021, 08:07 PM
It really is amazing to me how the same people who condemn the USA and western governments (as I would agree to) for their horrendous violence across the world and their lies to cover it up, are the same suckers who believe EVERYTHING they're told with regards to domestic policy. Hilarious level of hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance.
SATAN
10-22-2021, 08:11 PM
Yeah, man. Totally. They believe EVERYTHING. Makes sense.
Spurs m8
10-22-2021, 08:13 PM
:facepalm
Literally read a book about US history you retard.
Yeah, I forgot we're still living in the 1700s
My bad
bdonovan
10-22-2021, 09:16 PM
>Well, they have 2 million people in concentration camps. It's a modern day Holocaust against the Uyghur people. The league should absolutely stop doing business with these genocidal maniacs.
Imagine being this gullible.
It's been something seeing people who are silent about our torture laboratory in Guantanamo, torturing Muslims, and hardly protesting that we've killed a million Muslims over the last twenty years..... and suddenly become advocates of Muslims when it comes to China.
bdonovan
10-22-2021, 09:23 PM
https://twitter.com/EnesKanter/status/1450869180283203589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1450869180283203589%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsports.yahoo.com%2Fenes-kanter-china-tibet-nba-celtics-135506956.html
Should the NBA just pull out of China?
I think Enes is now just trolling as many world leaders as he can. Erdogan, Jinping, I'm sure he'll go after Putin & the President of Zimbabwe next.
He got detained in Romania and is wanted for arrest in Turkey. Maybe he wants to be the Colin Kapernick of basketball, but he just seems like someone who likes pissing people off. What if he was that fearless when playing defense on the court?
If I had to choose versus Kanter's spitballing political "hot-takes" vs. getting the NBA to a billion people, I know which I'd choose.
Real Men Wear Green
10-22-2021, 09:25 PM
Raptors are erasing the Celtics in real life. Cs don't bring any bigs off the bench and are getting killed on the glass to go along with poor ball handling teamwide. Through two games Robert Williams has oddly been team MVP.
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