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8Ball
10-21-2021, 02:38 PM
Shaq went ahead and said if Bron passes Kareem in points Bron will be hailed as the best ever.

I disagree with Shaq. LeBron is already the best ever.

But this PROVES that once LeBron passes Kareem we will have legions of NBA fans that will convert.



"I know what he's doing," O'Neal said. "Championships are great, but he's trying to pass Kareem up. That's what he is doing. I know exactly what he's doing. 'Cause now if you pass Kareem up, it ain't no talk about who the best player ever is. Think about that? I saw he needed to average (25) points or something like that the next few years, which he will do. He can do that in two more years."

DoctorP
10-21-2021, 02:40 PM
yea the only thing that stops bran at that point are the roid accusations if some kind of coup happens

2much_knowledge
10-21-2021, 02:58 PM
Cool story but not sold....at all

Eternal #2

FultzNationRISE
10-21-2021, 03:01 PM
yea the only thing that stops bran at that point are the roid accusations if some kind of coup happens

Coup story bro.

8Ball
10-21-2021, 03:07 PM
I want Bron to hit 40 000 points. Nothing less.

A number never done before in history of NBA.

FultzNationRISE
10-21-2021, 03:08 PM
I want Bron to hit 40 000 points. Nothing less.

A number never done before in history of NBA.


I mean to be fair, Lebron’s already passed 40,000.


Ladies :pimp:

ImKobe
10-21-2021, 03:22 PM
I mean to be fair, Lebron’s already passed 40,000.


Ladies :pimp:

You mean 40,000 men, right?

Kobe_Bryant
10-21-2021, 03:48 PM
damn I guess luka or trae young are gonna be the next goats

Kareem and Malone are #1 and #2 all time. I'm above MJ

damn I wish I never tore my Achilles

SouBeachTalents
10-21-2021, 04:00 PM
damn I guess luka or trae young are gonna be the next goats

Kareem and Malone are #1 and #2 all time. I'm above MJ

damn I wish I never tore my Achilles
But I thought only players opinions matter?

RRR3
10-21-2021, 04:01 PM
damn I guess luka or trae young are gonna be the next goats

Kareem and Malone are #1 and #2 all time. I'm above MJ

damn I wish I never tore my Achilles
He was saying that combined with LeBron’s other accomplishments would make him GOAT but obviously it’s too hard for you to think critically

RRR3
10-21-2021, 04:03 PM
But I thought only players opinions matter?
You’re responding to a guy who thinks Kobe saved Shaq in 2000.

Kobe_Bryant
10-21-2021, 04:03 PM
But I thought only players opinions matter?

yup. majority. if shaq calls lebron the goat he will join lebron as the only 2 players of significance to call lebron the goat

RRR3
10-21-2021, 04:04 PM
yup. majority. if shaq calls lebron the goat he will join lebron as the only 2 players of significance to call lebron the goat
Oscar Robertson and Isiah Thomas, famously insignificant players.

Kobe_Bryant
10-21-2021, 04:04 PM
You’re responding to a guy who thinks Kobe saved Shaq in 2000.

I did. I led us in points, rebounds, assists and blocks vs Portland in game 7 of the wcf and had key jumpers, blocks and assists during our 15 point comeback then gave shaq his greatest moment

dankok8
10-21-2021, 04:12 PM
That's dumb logic because Kareem would have been consensus GOAT over Jordan if the all-time scoring record matters that much.

1987_Lakers
10-21-2021, 04:15 PM
By the time LeBron retires, the debate between who is the GOAT between the two will be endless. I remember MJ was pretty much the undisputed GOAT for like 20 years, but LeBron put an end to that. Even though I felt Kareem had a case for GOAT, MJ had the media and marketing on his side. Kobe also had both media and marketing, but the problem was his flaws were much more easier to expose to the hardcore fans, even with a dead Kobe he doesn't even crack top 10, how sad.

1987_Lakers
10-21-2021, 04:18 PM
That's dumb logic because Kareem would have been consensus GOAT over Jordan if the all-time scoring record matters that much.

I guarantee you if Kareem was more charismatic, peaked and played on a championship level team like MJ during a time where the NBA was rising in popularity he would get more GOAT talks.

Kareem just peaked during a time where the NBA was almost dead and the media didn't really like him.

Kobe_Bryant
10-21-2021, 04:19 PM
By the time LeBron retires, the debate between who is the GOAT between the two will be endless. I remember MJ was pretty much the undisputed GOAT for like 20 years, but LeBron put an end to that. Even though I felt Kareem had a case for GOAT, MJ had the media and marketing on his side. Kobe also had both media and marketing, but the problem was his flaws were much more easier to expose to the hardcore fans, even with a dead Kobe he doesn't even crack top 10, how sad.

na when lebrons replaced as the face of the league his steroid abuse will be exposed and one of his friends will write a book on it like Jose Canseco did when the money drys up

so those longevity records will all be worth nothing

1987_Lakers
10-21-2021, 04:30 PM
na when lebrons replaced as the face of the league his steroid abuse will be exposed and one of his friends will write a book on it like Jose Canseco did when the money drys up

so those longevity records will all be worth nothing

lol, is this the best you can do? Hope for scenario that isn't going to happen?

j3lademaster
10-21-2021, 04:36 PM
35k points, 27 ppg all on 50+% from the field. And scoring isn’t even considered his strongest attribute. GOAT shit.

1987_Lakers
10-21-2021, 04:41 PM
35k points, 27 ppg all on 50+% from the field. And scoring isn’t even considered his strongest attribute. GOAT shit.

He's most likely gonna pass the 10,000 mark in assists and rebounds this year as well, which has never been done. Pretty crazy to think he is gonna end his career with most points in NBA history and finish like top 5 in assists.

SouBeachTalents
10-21-2021, 04:48 PM
By the time LeBron retires, the debate between who is the GOAT between the two will be endless. I remember MJ was pretty much the undisputed GOAT for like 20 years, but LeBron put an end to that. Even though I felt Kareem had a case for GOAT, MJ had the media and marketing on his side. Kobe also had both media and marketing, but the problem was his flaws were much more easier to expose to the hardcore fans, even with a dead Kobe he doesn't even crack top 10, how sad.
Imo I still think Jordan will be considered GOAT by the majority of fans. His resume is legit flawless, and as great as LeBron has been, he has shit like 2011 on his record, as well as less titles and a losing Finals record which is how a lot of dumb casual fans judge players.

Those claiming LeBron's only top 2 due to recency bias, and that he's going to drop in the rankings after he retires, those people are going to be dead wrong about that. LeBron's resume & production will ensure he'll be top 2 for a very long time, until at least the next GOAT candidate emerges, if he ever does.

RRR3
10-21-2021, 04:53 PM
Imo I still think Jordan will be considered GOAT by the majority of fans. His resume is legit flawless, and as great as LeBron has been, he has shit like 2011 on his record, as well as less titles and a losing Finals record which is how a lot of dumb casual fans judge players.

Those claiming LeBron's only top 2 due to recency bias, and that he's going to drop in the rankings after he retires, those people are going to be dead wrong about that. LeBron's resume & production will ensure he'll be top 2 for a very long time, until at least the next GOAT candidate emerges, if he ever does.
LeBron could win more still if they trade WB at least (for anyone a g leaguer even. WB hurts this team).

Kobe_Bryant
10-21-2021, 05:31 PM
lol, is this the best you can do? Hope for scenario that isn't going to happen?

well even if he gets full credit for longevity totals the highest he can be placed is 2nd or 3rd even if you give full credit with zero asterisks.

he will basically be Kareem. a guy nobody really wants to go back and see clips of cause it was always the same stuff. open 3, bully ball or pass

after 30 seconds you've seen everything


and I seriously do think his steroid stuff will make someone he knows a lot of money. it's inevitable

SATAN
10-21-2021, 05:47 PM
His resume is legit flawless

lmao no it ****in' isn't.

SouBeachTalents
10-21-2021, 05:51 PM
lmao no it ****in' isn't.
What jumps out to you as flawed when looking at his resume? He has 5 MVP's, 6 FMVP's, a DPOY, 10 scoring titles, 2 different 3peats, never lost with HCA, never lost as the favorite, never even had a notably bad series, or at least one even approaching 2011.

RRR3
10-21-2021, 05:53 PM
What jumps out to you as flawed when looking at his resume? He has 5 MVP's, 6 FMVP's, a DPOY, 10 scoring titles, 2 different 3peats, never lost with HCA, never lost as the favorite, never even had a notably bad series, or at least one even approaching 2011.
Honestly the way the Bulls played in 1994 doesn’t make him look great. I still have MJ as the GOAT though.

SATAN
10-21-2021, 05:57 PM
MJ had the media and marketing on his side.

Come Fly With Me
Michael Jordan's Playground
Air Time
Michael Jordan To The Max
Above & Beyond

Off the top of my head there's 5 propaganda films released within like 12 years. Not even including the Chicago films and other endorsements.

MJ stans are similar to North Koreans.

TheCorporation
10-21-2021, 06:33 PM
That's dumb logic because Kareem would have been consensus GOAT over Jordan if the all-time scoring record matters that much.

Kareem has 2 FMVPs to LBJs 4 FMVPs

LBJ also is the LEADING playoff scorer by a wide margin (GOAT achievement). Sorry baby boi

j3lademaster
10-21-2021, 06:38 PM
Honestly the way the Bulls played in 1994 doesn’t make him look great. I still have MJ as the GOAT though.MJ and Lebron are my top 2, with Lebron slightly ahead for me. To me, their peaks are comparable but Lebron has better longevity. By what logic do you put MJ ahead, just curious.

SaintzFury13
10-21-2021, 06:42 PM
after 30 seconds you've seen everything

You've never watched a LeBron James game in your life if you think this is the case.


and I seriously do think his steroid stuff will make someone he knows a lot of money. it's inevitable

There is no steroid stuff. In this day and age, the fact that not a single shred of evidence has come forward is about as telling as it gets.

SaintzFury13
10-21-2021, 06:44 PM
Honestly the way the Bulls played in 1994 doesn’t make him look great. I still have MJ as the GOAT though.

I don't see 94 as a knock on Jordan, but rather an example of just how great the Bulls truly were as a team. The Cavaliers went to the finals for four straight seasons at one point and I probably wouldn't rate any of those teams in the top 30. The Bulls were legitimate all time great teams.

Kobe_Bryant
10-21-2021, 06:47 PM
You've never watched a LeBron James game in your life if you think this is the case.



There is no steroid stuff. In this day and age, the fact that not a single shred of evidence has come forward is about as telling as it gets.

lebron was linked to a Miami steroid clinic in 2013 with jameer Nelson

then in 2015 when he started the season flat he took an emergency trip to Miami where the steroid clinic is located

then his head has grown to the size of a beach ball

then he admits he spends millions on his body each year

then multiple people come out saying lebrons steroid use is an open secret in the nba

then sports shows like first take and undisputed joke about "how much of it is natural" or "maybe he needs another trip to miami"

now he's in year 19 and still getting his head above the rim

come on

expansionera
10-21-2021, 06:57 PM
That's dumb logic because Kareem would have been consensus GOAT over Jordan if the all-time scoring record matters that much.

Context, Lebron will surpass Kareem and have five FMVPs and titles. Something Jordan could never accomplish

SaintzFury13
10-21-2021, 07:23 PM
lebron was linked to a Miami steroid clinic in 2013 with jameer Nelson

Immediately stopped reading after this.

First off, being linked to something is not evidence, especially when it's by a random nut job. Second, the entire theory hinges on the fact that a woman supposedly collected payments from someone named "Mr Paul" and LeBron has an agent named Rich Paul.

That's it. That's the entire connection to the theory.

In other words, it's obvious bullshit. It's been 8 years since the story first came out and nothing ever came of it.

RogueBorg
10-21-2021, 07:57 PM
Shaq went ahead and said if Bron passes Kareem in points Bron will be hailed as the best ever.

I disagree with Shaq. LeBron is already the best ever.

But this PROVES that once LeBron passes Kareem we will have legions of NBA fans that will convert.

Kareem's the All-Time leading scorer but that doesn't make him the unanimous GOAT. Lebron is ahead of Jordan, when he passes Kareem what changes between Lebron and Jordan?

2much_knowledge
10-21-2021, 08:20 PM
That's dumb logic because Kareem would have been consensus GOAT over Jordan if the all-time scoring record matters that much.

Isn't Kareem more accomplished? Rings, numbers, mvps....

Something doesn't add up

Gohan
10-21-2021, 08:27 PM
Shaq said iverson was a top 5 player of all time before. I personally dont agree but i respect his opinion:pimp:

2much_knowledge
10-21-2021, 08:28 PM
Kareem has 2 FMVPs to LBJs 4 FMVPs

LBJ also is the LEADING playoff scorer by a wide margin (GOAT achievement). Sorry baby boi

Retarded as always. Kareem has 6 mvps to lebrons 4

But i suppose competing against 300 + players for 82 games ain't more impressive than winning it against 29 players in a 7 game span lol

2much_knowledge
10-21-2021, 08:29 PM
MJ and Lebron are my top 2, with Lebron slightly ahead for me. To me, their peaks are comparable but Lebron has better longevity. By what logic do you put MJ ahead, just curious.

So basically your whole case is lebron being healthy longer? Oh Lord

Pip' N Rodman
10-21-2021, 08:31 PM
So basically your whole case is lebron being healthy longer? Oh Lord
Or it could be that LeBron is a:

Better finisher

Better 3 point shooter

Better rebounder

Better passer

More efficient scorer

Better defender

You know, better in all the important aspects of bball

j3lademaster
10-21-2021, 08:35 PM
So basically your whole case is lebron being healthy longer? Oh LordLongevity has to matter.

2much_knowledge
10-21-2021, 08:50 PM
Longevity has to matter.

As if Jordan didn't have it. Just a 2 part question...

Do you know what were Jordan's numbers in 2002 and what position he had the Wizards in before the knee injury? Serious question

j3lademaster
10-21-2021, 08:52 PM
As if Jordan didn't have it. Just a 2 part question...

Do you know what were Jordan's numbers in 2002 and what position he had the Wizards in before the knee injury? Serious questionI never said Jordan didn't have longevity. It's not as good as Lebron's.

2much_knowledge
10-21-2021, 10:39 PM
I never said Jordan didn't have longevity. It's not as good as Lebron's.

25 pts 6 reb 5 ast 1.5 stl 0.5 blk 42% s.p

2nd best record in the East behind Nets

And above all, Hamilton missed 5 weeks

At 38, if thats not longevity, i don't know what it is

Pip' N Rodman
10-21-2021, 10:55 PM
25 pts 6 reb 5 ast 1.5 stl 0.5 blk 42% s.p

2nd best record in the East behind Nets

And above all, Hamilton missed 5 weeks

At 38, if thats not longevity, i don't know what it is


No he only got 20/6 and shot one of the lowest efficiency seasons ever

2much_knowledge
10-21-2021, 11:21 PM
no he only got 20/6 and shot one of the lowest efficiency seasons ever

pre injury..... Idiot

Spurs m8
10-21-2021, 11:43 PM
Yeah, the opinion of a guy who gets paid to say stuff is the determining factor....Nice one 8owling 8all...proving again you're a fvcking druggy Swiss cheese brain

Kobe_Bryant
10-21-2021, 11:46 PM
Or it could be that LeBron is a:

Better finisher

Better 3 point shooter

Better rebounder

Better passer

More efficient scorer

Better defender

You know, better in all the important aspects of bball

lebron isn't a better finisher than jordan. he just plays in an era where its easier to get to the rim with basically zero contact unless its from lebrons elbow. whenever lebron faces a good defender and the refs let guys play physical he can't even sniff the rim like vs iggy

and lebron isn't really a better three point shooter. hes dared to shoot wide open cause of how he manipulates the rules on drives. defenders give him the three ball and he hits 34% which is bad for a practice look. he should lead the league with 45% minimum off those looks. guys in practice hit 70% on those same opportunities


as for rebounding pound for pound jordans better cause before lebron started padding them he would get like 7 a game and for a 6-9, 280 pound guy he should get 10+ like he does when he chases triple doubles. hes basically a center now so hes a below average rebounder

lebron isn't more efficient. he accumulates a ton of garbage time layups to padd his percentages ontop of refusing to take shots late in the clock/quarter and will dribble it out and take a fake half court shot just after the buzzer. and free throw shooting is part of your shooting efficiency


hes nowhere near the defender. he hasn't even tried consistently on defense since 2014. since then hes basically been my 2012/13 version where i just pick and choose when to defend. otherwise hes hovering for passing lane steals. he almost never defends the other teams best player while jordan did every time

Pip' N Rodman
10-21-2021, 11:47 PM
lebron isn't a better finisher than jordan. he just plays in an era where its easier to get to the rim with basically zero contact unless its from lebrons elbow. whenever lebron faces a good defender and the refs let guys play physical he can't even sniff the rim like vs iggy

and lebron isn't really a better three point shooter. hes dared to shoot wide open cause of how he manipulates the rules on drives. defenders give him the three ball and he hits 34% which is bad for a practice look. he should lead the league with 45% minimum off those looks. guys in practice hit 70% on those same opportunities


as for rebounding pound for pound jordans better cause before lebron started padding them he would get like 7 a game and for a 6-9, 280 pound guy he should get 10+ like he does when he chases triple doubles. hes basically a center now so hes a below average rebounder

lebron isn't more efficient. he accumulates a ton of garbage time layups to padd his percentages ontop of refusing to take shots late in the clock/quarter and will dribble it out and take a fake half court shot just after the buzzer. and free throw shooting is part of your shooting efficiency


hes nowhere near the defender. he hasn't even tried consistently on defense since 2014. since then hes basically been my 2012/13 version where i just pick and choose when to defend. otherwise hes hovering for passing lane steals. he almost never defends the other teams best player while jordan did every time

Hows your hairline these days.. do you have any recent pics

1987_Lakers
10-21-2021, 11:49 PM
Yeah, the opinion of a guy who gets paid to say stuff is the determining factor....Nice one 8owling 8all...proving again you're a fvcking druggy Swiss cheese brain

Dude, aren't you Australian? Your government basically has you guys by the balls at the moment, cant even leave home. You should focus your anger out on them.

Kobe_Bryant
10-21-2021, 11:50 PM
Hows your hairline these days.. do you have any recent pics

my wife made LA county delete all the pics so this is all i have

even if i didn't lose my hair prior to my death the crash took my forehead off so my hairline wouldn't have survived either way

https://i.ibb.co/r06QX6d/Screen-Shot-2021-10-21-at-11-48-58-PM.png

Pip' N Rodman
10-21-2021, 11:53 PM
my wife made LA county delete all the pics so this is all i have

even if i didn't lose my hair prior to my death the crash took my forehead off so my hairline wouldn't have survived either way

https://i.ibb.co/r06QX6d/Screen-Shot-2021-10-21-at-11-48-58-PM.png


Wait.. where are you posting from then?

Why does your ip address say canada

Kobe_Bryant
10-21-2021, 11:58 PM
Wait.. where are you posting from then?

Why does your ip address say canada

wrong...

https://i.ibb.co/h2y7xwn/Screen-Shot-2021-10-21-at-11-57-38-PM.png

Axe
10-22-2021, 12:02 AM
I want MJ dead already so I can sell his cards for a fortune.
Yikes.

dankok8
10-22-2021, 12:55 AM
Kareem has 2 FMVPs to LBJs 4 FMVPs

LBJ also is the LEADING playoff scorer by a wide margin (GOAT achievement). Sorry baby boi

Everyone knows Kareem should have 3 FMVP's (got robbed in 1980). He leads Lebron 6-4 in MVP's, 6-4 in titles plus has three more NCAA titles and has the unstoppable skyhook. Kareem doesn't have a series like the 2011 finals either.

Sorry baby boi

1987_Lakers
10-22-2021, 01:02 AM
Come Fly With Me
Michael Jordan's Playground
Air Time
Michael Jordan To The Max
Above & Beyond

Off the top of my head there's 5 propaganda films released within like 12 years. Not even including the Chicago films and other endorsements.

MJ stans are similar to North Koreans.
:oldlol:

Kobe_Bryant
10-22-2021, 01:06 AM
imagine calling jordan highlights "propaganda"

like we didn't actually witness him do all of that stuff live


this isn't like lebrons career where you have to suspend disbelief and just pretend he's not traveling, charging, flopping, roiding and getting bailed out all the time

Pip' N Rodman
10-22-2021, 01:09 AM
imagine calling jordan highlights "propaganda"

like we didn't actually witness him do all of that stuff live


this isn't like lebrons career where you have to suspend disbelief and just pretend he's not traveling, charging, flopping, roiding and getting bailed out all the time

When did lebron get bailed out?

3ba11
10-22-2021, 01:10 AM
MJ and Lebron have comparable peaks


.


Jordan 3-peated at his peak with goat production rate (#1 all-time in PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP, PPG)

So how does Lebron have comparable peak?

Jordan was scoring champ and top 5 DPOY from 88-98' - no one has ever reached that peak for more than 1 year but Jordan was at that level from 88-98'

Lakers Legend#32
10-22-2021, 01:13 AM
The haters can't touch LeBron.

SATAN
10-22-2021, 01:18 AM
Dude, aren't you Australian? Your government basically has you guys by the balls at the moment, cant even leave home. You should focus your anger out on them.

Most of the country has been largely unaffected by covid and everything is open now. Meltdown_Cvnt is angry because he lives in Victoria, which was not doing well with covid, along with Sydney.

It's strange seeing so many US citizens spreading misinformation about Australia recently. Glad I left tbh.

SaintzFury13
10-22-2021, 06:49 AM
Isn't Kareem more accomplished? Rings, numbers, mvps....

Something doesn't add up

The main argument stems from the fact that Kareem had Magic Johnson to play with for five of his six championship wins. LeBron is the closest to Jordan we've ever seen in terms of a player undisputedly leading his team to multiple championships. He's the only one with four finals MVP awards apart from Jordan.

It's honestly a coin toss between Kareem and LeBron right now. But when the day comes that LeBron retires (and that probably won't be for at least three or so more years), he will probably have built up a resume that makes his case over Kareem pretty clear.

2much_knowledge
10-22-2021, 07:15 AM
The main argument stems from the fact that Kareem had Magic Johnson to play with for five of his six championship wins. LeBron is the closest to Jordan we've ever seen in terms of a player undisputedly leading his team to multiple championships. He's the only one with four finals MVP awards apart from Jordan.

It's honestly a coin toss between Kareem and LeBron right now. But when the day comes that LeBron retires (and that probably won't be for at least three or so more years), he will probably have built up a resume that makes his case over Kareem pretty clear.

At least one stan that actually makes a valid and logical point. Bravo

2much_knowledge
10-22-2021, 07:17 AM
When did lebron get bailed out?

2013 ray allen
2016 when the league rewarded him for putting his balls over Draymond and then play victim

8Ball
10-22-2021, 07:57 AM
There was still time on clock after ray allen shot.
Draymond green only got a flagrant 1 for his ball hit.

No bailouts ever in Brons career.

8Ball
10-22-2021, 07:58 AM
Kareem's the All-Time leading scorer but that doesn't make him the unanimous GOAT. Lebron is ahead of Jordan, when he passes Kareem what changes between Lebron and Jordan?

Kareem has 2 fmvp.

Bron has 4. So with 4 rings and 4 fmvp and 40k points thst is enuf for Shaq.

8Ball
10-22-2021, 08:00 AM
25 pts 6 reb 5 ast 1.5 stl 0.5 blk 42% s.p

2nd best record in the East behind Nets

And above all, Hamilton missed 5 weeks

At 38, if thats not longevity, i don't know what it is

Wrong.

Jordan averaged 20/6 and was mediocre.

8Ball
10-22-2021, 08:16 AM
Yeah, the opinion of a guy who gets paid to say stuff is the determining factor....Nice one 8owling 8all...proving again you're a fvcking druggy Swiss cheese brain

Angry little boi :roll:


Shaq's opinion matters. Once the all time greats acknowledge the truth about Bron being the GOAT than the debate is settled.

2much_knowledge
10-22-2021, 10:01 AM
Wrong.

Jordan averaged 20/6 and was mediocre.

2nd idiot who can't read PRE INJURY. Are you the same fool behing both accounts?

expansionera
10-22-2021, 10:13 AM
25 pts 6 reb 5 ast 1.5 stl 0.5 blk 42% s.p

2nd best record in the East behind Nets

And above all, Hamilton missed 5 weeks

At 38, if thats not longevity, i don't know what it is

With years off, Lebron was a better player at 38, more healthy and had way more wear and tear

2much_knowledge
10-22-2021, 10:58 AM
With years off, Lebron was a better player at 38, more healthy and had way more wear and tear

Was? You come from the future? Who are you? Marty or Doc?

Dbrog
10-22-2021, 11:17 AM
8ball just trolling...or at least I hope he's not that deluded.

Shaq also just says things to create buzz. He's always done this. I don't think there's any doubt that Bron has longevity on everyone and if that's what you value, I guess he's the GOAT. I expect Shawn Marion to be high on your list too though if that's the criteria.

dankok8
10-22-2021, 12:12 PM
I guarantee you if Kareem was more charismatic, peaked and played on a championship level team like MJ during a time where the NBA was rising in popularity he would get more GOAT talks.

Kareem just peaked during a time where the NBA was almost dead and the media didn't really like him.

No doubt. But Kareem shouldn't be a GOAT candidate because of the scoring record. He should be a GOAT candidate because of how good the man was. Honestly the more I know about the game the more I consider Kareem's peak the best big man peak in history.

Anyways the two best regular season scorers of all time are Wilt and Jordan, in that order. Everyone knows that.

TheCorporation
10-22-2021, 12:52 PM
There was still time on clock after ray allen shot.
Draymond green only got a flagrant 1 for his ball hit.

No bailouts ever in Brons career.

+1

Dray missed 1 game :lol

Played his BEST in Game 7 and Curry disappeared

Ray Allen was a Game 6...to tie :lol

The 2013 Finals still had a Game 6 OT and then a Game 7

Casuals don't know basics

TheCorporation
10-22-2021, 12:57 PM
Everyone knows Kareem should have 3 FMVP's (got robbed in 1980). He leads Lebron 6-4 in MVP's, 6-4 in titles plus has three more NCAA titles and has the unstoppable skyhook. Kareem doesn't have a series like the 2011 finals either.

Sorry baby boi

Sure, give Kareem his 1980 FMVP

LeBron still led more teams to more Championships and with LESSER talent. Kareem played with Prime Magic and Oacar Robertson for crying out loud (and Worthy).

Kareem also had too many blunders where he missed the Playoffs in his absolute Prime. LeBron never had a blunder as bad as 1976 Kareem missing the playoffs in his absolute prime.

Sorry baby boi

8Ball
10-22-2021, 02:10 PM
Kareem can't be compared to Bron because Kareem just doesn't have enough dominant playoff series compared to Bron.

Bron is just more impactful in playoffs.

Spurs m8
10-31-2022, 04:31 AM
Oh no, Shaq has back peddled and doesn't even have LeBarry top 3 when he stat pads past Kareem

Shaq knows


“I think the greatest player is Michael Jordan,” O’Neal began. “LeBron’s about to do something that hasn’t been done in a long time, and I think he will move his name up there. But for me, it’s always Dr. J (Julius Erving), Michael Jordan, Magic [Johnson] and those guys.”



https://wlight360.com/shaquille-oneal-explains-why-lebron-james-wont-be-the-goat-even-if-he-passes-kareem-abdul-jabbar/

John8204
10-31-2022, 05:44 AM
The problem with Kareem was the ABA had so much talent that those MVP's look pretty shady at this point. For me Kareem is at #5 and Lebron is at #3 once Kareem loses the scoring record I think I might have to start looking at Bill, Magic, and Mikan who are #6. #7 and #8

davidkimchi
12-27-2022, 09:19 AM
Interesting discussion

aj1987
12-27-2022, 09:32 AM
Oh no, Shaq has back peddled and doesn't even have LeBarry top 3 when he stat pads past Kareem

Shaq knows





https://wlight360.com/shaquille-oneal-explains-why-lebron-james-wont-be-the-goat-even-if-he-passes-kareem-abdul-jabbar/


Yeah, the opinion of a guy who gets paid to say stuff is the determining factor....Nice one 8owling 8all...proving again you're a fvcking druggy Swiss cheese brain



Stop posting and kill yourself, clown. :roll:

Yeezy
12-27-2022, 10:03 AM
what happened to OP. how come he only posts as 1987lakers/alternativeacc/thecorporation and lebron23 now

GrayGoat
01-25-2023, 04:24 PM
Shaq was right