What has Reggie Miller done to be considered top 100?

[TheCorporation]

I can't think of anything that would put him in the top 100 but please let me know if I'm wrong.

0x Rings
0x MVPs
0x All NBA 1st team
0x All Defensive teams
1x Finals appearance
0x top 3 MVP finishes (yikes)
0x 25.0 ppg seasons (WTF)

[Kobe_Bryant]

looks like lebrons resume without steroids or colluding

[2much_knowledge]

Competing hard with the pieces he had without demanding a trade or recluting

Staying loyal to a franchise

Being clutch as fck.

Stuff you are not that familiar with

[Full Court]

Competing hard with the pieces he had without demanding a trade or recluting

Staying loyal to a franchise

Being clutch as fck.

Stuff you are not that familiar with

Lol. Truth!

[Airupthere]

Competing hard with the pieces he had without demanding a trade or recluting

Staying loyal to a franchise

Being clutch as fck.

Stuff you are not that familiar with

:lebronamazed:

[Kblaze8855]

Some people just don’t have the name to go with the game. Issue of era, the emotional manipulation of highlights, and all that comes with fame. Dennis Johnson is like a 5 time all star, 9 time all d, finals mvp, all nba first team over Magic Johnson, and hit clutch shots(finals game winners) and had series deciding defensive stops on top of it.

Not a sexy game. No ESPN specials. How good he was at basketball is never gonna matter more than Pistol Pete, Reggie, or any number of people being way more popular and having more media celebration and representation.

Added to that there is the bias towards scorers that will usually get them more love than all around players. Just the world we have. You score a good bit more people think you’re a good bit better most of the time and that’s as far as most are gonna look.

Just learn to live with it.

[L.Kizzle]

Some people just don’t have the name to go with the game. Issue of era, the emotional manipulation of highlights, and all that comes with fame. Dennis Johnson is like a 5 time all star, 9 time all d, finals mvp, all nba first team over Magic Johnson, and hit clutch shots(finals game winners) and had series deciding defensive stops on top of it.

Not a sexy game. No ESPN specials. How good he was at basketball is never gonna matter more than Pistol Pete, Reggie, or any number of people being way more popular and having more media celebration and representation.

Added to that there is the bias towards scorers that will usually get them more love than all around players. Just the world we have. You score a good bit more people think you’re a good bit better most of the time and that’s as far as most are gonna look.

Just learn to live with it.
Only Dennis Rodman can get away with being a tough nosed defender and being ranked sooo highly these days.
He moves up in these all time ranking every year when 20 years ago he was barley making top 100 list. Now I see him in top 50 list.

[Kblaze8855]

Dennis has the fame, era, coverage and all that as well. It matters. Whatever you think of anyone’s placement…non basketball issues obviously factor in. It’s entirely possible that Dennis with the personality of Derek Mckey wouldn’t be so well remembered. Being a multi colored hair, cross dressing, Carmen Electra dating, NWO member on multiple famous teams with years of nostalgic coverage helps in being remembered.

Id vote for him on basketball alone but like I said….it helps.

[Bronbron23]

I can't think of anything that would put him in the top 100 but please let me know if I'm wrong.

0x Rings
0x MVPs
0x All NBA 1st team
0x All Defensive teams
1x Finals appearance
0x top 3 MVP finishes (yikes)
0x 25.0 ppg seasons (WTF)

He was a great competitor. Plus shooting wise he has an impact similar to steph. He really stresses a defense out with his shooting and movement. Guys like steph, miller and bird can score zero points and assists but have a major impact on the offensive end.

I realize as a stan of a ball dominator this is a difficult concept to understand

[Magic Is Magic]

When I created my Magic is Magic, Magic formula Reggie did not make the top 50 but him not being top 100 is a bit harsh. I imagine it is technically possible if I ran enough players through the formula but as of now he is ranked around 58 but I am sure I can run more players through that could pass him up. I could see him being out of the top 75 if I kept adding more players but I don't think he would be out of the top 100. Here is the current list of players based upon my ranking formula:

LeBron James
Michael Jordan
Kareem A-Jabbar
Bill Russell
Tim Duncan
Wilt Chamberlain
Magic Johnson
Shaquille O'Neal
Kobe Bryant
Larry Bird
Hakeem Olajuwon
Karl Malone
Kevin Durant
Jerry West
David Robinson
Dirk Nowitzki
Oscar Robertson
Bob Cousy
Jason Kidd
Moses Malone
George Mikan
Julius Erving
Bob Pettit
Kevin Garnett
Chris Paul
John Havlicek
James Harden
Stephen Curry
Kawhi Leonard
Charles Barkley
Giannis Antetokuonmpo
John Stockton
Dwyane Wade
Scottie Pippen
Dolph Schayes
Elgin Baylor
Steve Nash
Willis Reed
Russell Westbrook
Elvin Hayes
Rick Barry
Gary Payton
Walt Frazier
Allen Iverson
George Gervin
Anthony Davis
Bill Walton
Patrick Ewing
Isiah Thomas
Kevin McHale
---- Top 50 Above -----
Robert Parish
Paul Pierce
Manu Ginobli
Clyde Drexler
Artis Gilmore
Chauncy Billups
Andre Iguodola
Reggie Miller
Draymond Green
Chris Bosh
Carmelo Anthony


I should add more players and see how it shakes out

[Full Court]

Only Dennis Rodman can get away with being a tough nosed defender and being ranked sooo highly these days.
He moves up in these all time ranking every year when 20 years ago he was barley making top 100 list. Now I see him in top 50 list.

It's because he's buddies with Kim Jong Un. North Korean hackers keep moving him up in the rankings.

[3ba11]

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Reggie Miller and Pippen faced the same opponent in the playoffs 6 times



R Miller vs. 90' Pistons..... 20.7 on 57%... 17.9 usage
Pippen. vs. 90' Pistons..... 16.6 on 43%... 20.4 usage

R Miller vs 93' Knicks....... 31.5 on 53%... 27.5 usage
Pippen. vs 93' Knicks....... 22.5 on 51%... 28.4 usage

R Miller vs 94' Knicks....... 24.7 on 44%... 30.1 usage
Pippen. vs 94' Knicks....... 21.7 on 41%... 31.7 usage

R Miller vs 95' Magic........ 25.9 on 52%... 26.2 usage
Pippen. vs 95' Magic........ 19.0 on 42%... 23.1 usage

R Miller vs 00' Lakers....... 24.3 on 41%... 25.0 usage
Pippen. vs 00' Lakers....... 15.1 on 43%... 19.5 usage
Pippen. vs 99' Lakers....... 18.3 on 33%... 23.5 usage

R Miller 98' ECF............... 17.4 on 41%... 21.1 usage
Pippen. 98' ECF............... 16.6 on 39%... 26.0 usage


Miller literally dominated teams that Pippen wet the bed against.

Ultimately, the voters gave him proper credit for being the Curry of his era, and this superior brand of ball allowed Miller to win with less supporting talent - he had many historic runs despite zero all-star teammatea for his entire career, including his Knicks' battles and nearly beating 98' MJ or Shaq/Kobe in the Finals - with no real offensive help.. :confusedshrug:

(although his sidekick outplayed pip, but that isn't saying much, which people don't realize).

If Miller played in this era, he would dominate more than he did in the 90's because his three-point attempts would more than double

[Thenameless]

Reggie Miller destroyed the Knicks in their house in front of Spike Lee and made the choke sign. And he shot the lights out. Good enough for me.

[Wally450]

looks like lebrons resume without steroids or colluding

Look' like Kobe's resume as a first option.

[Derka]

Some people just don’t have the name to go with the game. Issue of era, the emotional manipulation of highlights, and all that comes with fame. Dennis Johnson is like a 5 time all star, 9 time all d, finals mvp, all nba first team over Magic Johnson, and hit clutch shots(finals game winners) and had series deciding defensive stops on top of it.

Not a sexy game. No ESPN specials. How good he was at basketball is never gonna matter more than Pistol Pete, Reggie, or any number of people being way more popular and having more media celebration and representation.

Added to that there is the bias towards scorers that will usually get them more love than all around players. Just the world we have. You score a good bit more people think you’re a good bit better most of the time and that’s as far as most are gonna look.

Just learn to live with it.

Couldn't have said it better. These circle-jerk lists don't matter.

[TheCorporation]

Dennis has the fame, era, coverage and all that as well. It matters. Whatever you think of anyone’s placement…non basketball issues obviously factor in. It’s entirely possible that Dennis with the personality of Derek Mckey wouldn’t be so well remembered. Being a multi colored hair, cross dressing, Carmen Electra dating, NWO member on multiple famous teams with years of nostalgic coverage helps in being remembered.

Id vote for him on basketball alone but like I said….it helps.

Dennis Johnson is top 75 no doubt but how is Reggie Miller and not Dwight Howard?

Reggie has no place in the top 75 over Dwight Howard.

[bizil]

Thing with Reggie was he was really THE NEXT GUY to push the three ball movement forward after Bird. Because of the volume of 3's Reg was putting up in that time period. AND how he dominated in huge moments with the three ball. He was always averaging 20 PPG as well. So he wasn't just a 3 point specialist. HE LEGIT was a top notch scorer who HAPPENED to be the best shooter on the planet. 50-40-90 type shit as well.

Don't get me wrong, Mark Price was hella important as well to after Bird. Jus saying on the biggest stages,Miller was really the guy to push it forward. And or course Bird was the OG with the 50-40-90 shit and winning the three point shootouts.

So it's about Reggie's IMPACT! Plus he did score 25,279 points in his career as well. Just wasn't as complete a player as MJ, Drexler, Dumars, and Mitch in that era. Plus he wasn't a guy who could swing to the PG if he needed to. But due to his impact on the 3 ball movement and scoring numbers, he was a lock FOR me to be in the 75. In terms of importance, the Mt. Rushmore of the 3ball is Bird, Reggie, Ray, and Steph.

[Stephonit]

Dennis Johnson is top 75 no doubt but how is Reggie Miller and not Dwight Howard?

Reggie has no place in the top 75 over Dwight Howard.

Miller is the face of the Pacers franchise.

[ImKobe]

Reggie is among the most beloved & consistent players of the 90s-early 2000s era and one of the 5 greatest shooters in NBA history. His numbers look like Klay's but he was over 20 years ahead of his time and played a large part in popularizing the 3PT shot and obviously he had some legendary Playoff battles and took the Pacers to the Finals & came close to beating MJ before that (and got robbed of a potential title run in '05) so it's not like he was a scrub either. He holds up statistically (led the league in TS% twice as a SG) with his impact and his stat totals (21st all-time in scoring) and he's one of the 20 or so most recognizable players in NBA history.

[8Ball]

I can't think of anything that would put him in the top 100 but please let me know if I'm wrong.

0x Rings
0x MVPs
0x All NBA 1st team
0x All Defensive teams
1x Finals appearance
0x top 3 MVP finishes (yikes)
0x 25.0 ppg seasons (WTF)

Go 7 games against Jordan and lose. That's it.
Also losing in finals against Shaq.

That's his legacy.


Paul George is miles ahead of Reggie yet Reggie gets props for being Klay Thomson level.

[TheCorporation]

Go 7 games against Jordan and lose. That's it.
Also losing in finals against Shaq.

That's his legacy.


Paul George is miles ahead of Reggie yet Reggie gets props for being Klay Thomson level.

Reggie was legit shocked when he found out he was in the top 75. He has done nothing to warrant top 75 and even he knows it.

[John8204]

The thing with Reggie Miller is that it's an eye test but also a position test. Reggie to me is one of the ten best SG's of all-time, 1-2-3-4 are set in stone it's MJ, Kobe, West, and AI but after that you have this huge field of guys who were like Reggie Miller. You could put him in the top five all-time of his position.

[Baller789]

The thing with Reggie Miller is that it's an eye test but also a position test. Reggie to me is one of the ten best SG's of all-time, 1-2-3-4 are set in stone it's MJ, Kobe, West, and AI but after that you have this huge field of guys who were like Reggie Miller. You could put him in the top five all-time of his position.

No Wade?

[John8204]

No Wade?

He had a short career in a generation with guys with long careers. Top 10...yes...Top 5 I don't know I certainly don't think he belongs with MJ, Kobe, West, and AI.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

Nothing. He was just in a very popular 90s era and had that spike lee feud.


Someone like Jason Tatum has already surpassed this goofy dorks career.

Horrible commentator as well, talks like he has marbles in his mouth.

[Baller789]

People seem to forget Reggie also had great longevity at top level.

[John8204]

And like I said post your top ten SG's all time. Because Reggie has a case for #5, Harden's got a case, Wade's got a case, Gervin's got a case.

[L.Kizzle]

Of his five all star appearances, only two were consecutive.

In 1993, he got beat out of an All-Star appereance by teammate Detlef Schrempf who put up 19/10/6.

[Reggie43]

He made the Conference Finals Six times, Five as his teams best player. Three times he was a win away from the Finals, twice he was a few bad calls/made plays away against Jordans Bulls and Ewings Knicks. He actually made the Finals in 2000 just to run into Shaq at his absolute peak and lose in six hard fought games where they actually outscore the Lakers in the series despite losing.

Im not sure how many guys in the top 100 has that type of playoff resume as his teams best player. His teams had excellent chemistry with great depth and good players but lets be honest here his only real advantage among his peers in the majority of his playoff runs was having a very good starter quality power forward playing off the bench in Antonio Davis who was just playing around 25 mins a game because Dale and Rik where in front of him and they actually made the Finals without Antonio despite being a worse team without him.