Who was undeservedly voted in for NBA's top 75 All-Time list?

[Drygon]

Today, the full list of NBA's 75th Anniversary Team was announced,

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1451325629203468291?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

However, the biggest talking point is how wrong the likes of AD, Dame & Melo got voted in.

All of them are great players in their own right.

But if you was forced to swap out bewteen AD, Dame or Melo, who would you choose

[L.Kizzle]

Today, the full list of NBA's 75th Anniversary Team was announced,

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1451325629203468291?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

However, the biggest talking point is how wrong the likes of AD, Dame & Melo got voted in.

All of them are great players in their own right.

But if you was forced to swap out bewteen AD, Dame or Melo, who would you choose
Off current players those are my 3.
Of the 5 old schoolers, I don't like those 5 taking the spots of newer guys.
Especially if you wanna go accolade for accolade.
Miller and Rodman over Dwight and McGrady

[FultzNationRISE]

Carmelo and Westbrick lmao

[fsvr54]

Carmelo and Westbrick lmao

These two plus Lillard

[L.Kizzle]

Westbrook is a MVP, 10 time all star and triple double king.

[Manny98]

No Kyrie?

lol

[FultzNationRISE]

Westbrook is a MVP, 10 time all star and triple double king.

It’s all narratives and empty accolade garbage.

Dude’s a stat stuffing bozo.

[fsvr54]

It’s all narratives and empty accolade garbage.

Dude’s a stat stuffing bozo.

Yup.

Westbrook is a huge case for the Eye Test.

[fsvr54]

It’s all narratives and empty accolade garbage.

Dude’s a stat stuffing bozo.

Yup.

Westbrook is a huge case for the Eye Test.

[bison]

I will never understand Robert parish.

[Kobe_Bryant]

No Kyrie?

lol

i think kyrie deserves it over lillard


NBA champion (2016)
7× NBA All-Star (2013–2015, 2017–2019, 2021)
NBA All-Star Game MVP (2014)
All-NBA Second Team (2019)
2× All-NBA Third Team (2015, 2021)
50–40–90 club (2021)
NBA Rookie of the Year (2012)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (2012)
NBA Three-Point Contest champion (2013)
USA Basketball Male Athlete of the Year (2014)
FIBA World Cup MVP (2014)
Olympics Gold medal 2016 Rio de Janeiro
World Cup Gold medal 2014 Spain
FIBA Americas U18 Championship Gold medal 2010 San Antonio

vs

6× NBA All-Star (2014, 2015, 2018–2021)
All-NBA First Team (2018)
4× All-NBA Second Team (2016, 2019–2021)
All-NBA Third Team (2014)
NBA Rookie of the Year (2013)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (2013)
J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award (2019)
NBA Teammate of the Year (2021)
Olympic Games Gold medal 2020 Tokyo

[ShawkFactory]

i think kyrie deserves it over lillard


NBA champion (2016)
7× NBA All-Star (2013–2015, 2017–2019, 2021)
NBA All-Star Game MVP (2014)
All-NBA Second Team (2019)
2× All-NBA Third Team (2015, 2021)
50–40–90 club (2021)
NBA Rookie of the Year (2012)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (2012)
NBA Three-Point Contest champion (2013)
USA Basketball Male Athlete of the Year (2014)
FIBA World Cup MVP (2014)
Olympics Gold medal 2016 Rio de Janeiro
World Cup Gold medal 2014 Spain
FIBA Americas U18 Championship Gold medal 2010 San Antonio

vs

6× NBA All-Star (2014, 2015, 2018–2021)
All-NBA First Team (2018)
4× All-NBA Second Team (2016, 2019–2021)
All-NBA Third Team (2014)
NBA Rookie of the Year (2013)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (2013)
J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award (2019)
NBA Teammate of the Year (2021)
Olympic Games Gold medal 2020 Tokyo

3 all-NBA teams vs 6

[Kobe_Bryant]

3 all-NBA teams vs 6

only due to kyrie missing games due to injury. he still has more major accomplishments and is technically the more talented player even if its just by a small margin

the guy averaged almost 30ppg in the finals and hit a title winning shot

he has way more contributions to team USA as well

[Pip' N Rodman]

only due to kyrie missing games due to injury. he still has more major accomplishments and is technically the more talented player even if its just by a small margin

the guy averaged almost 30ppg in the finals and hit a title winning shot

he has way more contributions to team USA as well

Kyrie wasnt even an all star the year he won his ring.

And he didnt even lead his team in any categories

[tanibanana]

I will never understand Robert parish.

Same here... among a few others as well.

[Xiao Yao You]

Carmelo and Wilkens have always been overrated. Funny how Wilkens makes it 25 years later :facepalm

[Kobe_Bryant]

Kyrie wasnt even an all star the year he won his ring.

And he didnt even lead his team in any categories

hey dubeta aka steve aka simon aka wheels aka 5'8 failed jewish lawyer

[Thenameless]

i think kyrie deserves it over lillard


NBA champion (2016)
7× NBA All-Star (2013–2015, 2017–2019, 2021)
NBA All-Star Game MVP (2014)
All-NBA Second Team (2019)
2× All-NBA Third Team (2015, 2021)
50–40–90 club (2021)
NBA Rookie of the Year (2012)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (2012)
NBA Three-Point Contest champion (2013)
USA Basketball Male Athlete of the Year (2014)
FIBA World Cup MVP (2014)
Olympics Gold medal 2016 Rio de Janeiro
World Cup Gold medal 2014 Spain
FIBA Americas U18 Championship Gold medal 2010 San Antonio

vs

6× NBA All-Star (2014, 2015, 2018–2021)
All-NBA First Team (2018)
4× All-NBA Second Team (2016, 2019–2021)
All-NBA Third Team (2014)
NBA Rookie of the Year (2013)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (2013)
J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award (2019)
NBA Teammate of the Year (2021)
Olympic Games Gold medal 2020 Tokyo

Kyrie is super talented no doubt, but he's also a mental flake. As a Lakers fan, if I could trade Westbrook for Lillard, I'd do it in a heartbeat without even thinking about it. I don't think I'd do the same for Kyrie. He poses too much of a downside risk with his mentally unstable style. With Lillard, you're almost sure to receive a benefit playing along side AD and Lebron.

[RogueBorg]

It’s all narratives and empty accolade garbage.

Dude’s a stat stuffing bozo.

But, he was able to bring a ring to the city of Cleveland.

[dankok8]

People question AD and Melo but those guys have a definite case. AD co-led his team to a title and has several MVP-caliber seasons. He's a monster two-way player who's put up some of the best numbers we've ever seen in the playoffs. Carmelo is top 10 on the all-time scoring list and still going. Neither is a lock but let's not pretend they are terrible choices.

I do see a few weird choices though.

Lillard - he's not a top 75 player plain and simple; just hasn't done enough to warrant his inclusion
Rodman - great defender and rebounder but made 1 all-star game in his entire career; he's not better than someone like Dwight Howard
Wilkens - never made an All-NBA team; maybe included for his coaching contributions but I thought this was just players

Anyways replace these three guys with McGrady, Carter and Dwight and you've got a better list.

[RogueBorg]

People question AD and Melo but those guys have a definite case. AD co-led his team to a title and has several MVP-caliber seasons. He's a monster two-way player who's put up some of the best numbers we've ever seen in the playoffs. Carmelo is top 10 on the all-time scoring list and still going. Neither is a lock but let's not pretend they are terrible choices.

I do see a few weird choices though.

Lillard - he's not a top 75 player plain and simple; just hasn't done enough to warrant his inclusion
Rodman - great defender and rebounder but made 1 all-star game in his entire career; he's not better than someone like Dwight Howard
Wilkens - never made an All-NBA team; maybe included for his coaching contributions but I thought this was just players

Anyways replace these three guys with McGrady, Carter and Dwight and you've got a better list.

What has Carter and McGrady done that Lillard hasn't? Lillard already has more All-NBA's than Carter and he'll catch McGrady this year barring injury.

[dankok8]

What has Carter and McGrady done that Lillard hasn't? Lillard already has more All-NBA's than Carter and he'll catch McGrady this year barring injury.

T-Mac struggled with injury and missed games. There's no doubt he peaked much higher than Lillard too.

Carter had a 20-year NBA career.

Maybe when it's all said and done Lillard will be a decent or even good choice but right now he's not.

[BigTicket]

Of the players I actually watched play, I think Melo is the least deserving inclusion on the list. He scored a lot for many years but never very efficiently, he doesn't do anything else at a high level, and he never achieved anything in the playoffs.

[Phoenix]

The 2003 season that everyone remembers with Tmac shouldn't have even been his peak, because he was 23 at the time. He was still ascending as a player and even that year was having back issues. I have to believe a healthy Tmac and Yao combo with the pieces around them make some noise in the west.

[Shogon]

Paul Pierce

He was fat and sloppy. I hate guys like him and Carmelo Anthony. Get them the **** OUT.

[Shogon]

Paul Pierce made it but Pau Gasol didn't?

LOL.

[ImKobe]

Paul Pierce made it but Pau Gasol didn't?

LOL.

Pierce was always seen as the better player though. Gasol was a 1x All-Star and 0 - 12 in the Playoffs before teaming up with Kobe, Pierce had a very mediocre Celtics squad 2 games removed from the Finals in '02. Pierce is also 16th all-time in the scoring list and led multiple teams to the ECF and obviously has a FMVP too (though KG was arguably more important to the team overall but Pierce was still a 1b at worst).

[TheCorporation]

Reggie Miller...obviously

[L.Kizzle]

Guys like Dame and AD should have been left off. They can make the 100 list.
McGrady and Dwight should be here.

[Phoenix]

Pierce was always seen as the better player though. Gasol was a 1x All-Star and 1)0 - 12 in the Playoffs before teaming up with Kobe, 2)Pierce had a very mediocre Celtics squad 2 games removed from the Finals in '02. Pierce is also 16th all-time in the scoring list and led multiple teams to the ECF and obviously has a FMVP too (though KG was arguably more important to the team overall but Pierce was still a 1b at worst).

1) In a universally recognized tough conference with Mike Miller as his second option

2) In a universally recognized weak conference at the time

Yes Pau only had one all-star nod before Kobe, but he literally had peak Duncan/Garnett/Dirk as his positional competition, and that's just at PF. West was loaded in the frontcourt in the 2000's.

[FultzNationRISE]

Guys like Dame and AD should have been left off. They can make the 100 list.
McGrady and Dwight should be here.

I suspect the league had an active hand in making sure each generation was sufficiently represented. Because otherwise let’s face it, who would vote for anyone from the 50’s? Also if the current generation of guys in their prime has none of the greatest players... that doesnt exaclty bode well for marketing the league. “Hey, tune in to our big prime time match this friday, altho none of these guys are as good as the previous generation!”

Profits are all about spreading the appeal. These lists are to some extent a product of affirmative action. Gotta have each group represented, no matter what. It’s good for business.

[ImKobe]

1) In a universally recognized tough conference with Mike Miller as his second option

2) In a universally recognized weak conference at the time

Yes Pau only had one all-star nod before Kobe, but he literally had peak Duncan/Garnett/Dirk as his positional competition, and that's just at PF. West was loaded in the frontcourt in the 2000's.

Still, 12 games and you can't win ONE? Pierce beat AI's Sixers (outscored AI and averaged 31/9/4/2 61%TS) who were in the Finals the year before and won 2 games off the Nets team that made B2B Finals, Pau got swept 3x and didn't elevate his game in the POs and it's not like he had worse rosters than what Pierce did in Boston in the early '00s.

Also, I do think Pau should have been top 75 because you have to weigh in his international career as well but I believe Pierce was considered the better NBA player from 00-09.

[Phoenix]

Still, 12 games and you can't win ONE? Pierce beat AI's Sixers (outscored AI and averaged 31/9/4/2 61%TS) who were in the Finals the year before and won 2 games off the Nets team that made B2B Finals, Pau got swept 3x and didn't elevate his game in the POs and it's not like he had worse rosters than what Pierce did in Boston in the early '00s.

Also, I do think Pau should have been top 75 because you have to weigh in his international career as well but I believe Pierce was considered the better NBA player from 00-09.

I'm not trying to argue who is better, I think Pierce overall is better. I'm just saying comparing their respective playoff successes, or lack of, when you add the context of conference competition needs to be factored when critiquing what Pau didn't do before going to LA.

Also, as flawed as Antoine Walker was, in the early 2000's he alone was better than anything Gasol had to work with in Memphis.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Paul Pierce made it but Pau Gasol didn't?

LOL.

pierce was a hall of famer before teaming up with garnett and Allen. gasol was nothing before teaming up with me

there's quite a big difference and pierce is arguably top 40 all time.

he was his teams top scorer as finals mvp. Pau never even won a single playoff game as his teams top scorer

[Duderonomy]

No Dumars, Pau, Klay, or Billups.

[tanibanana]

Parish, Wikens, Miller, Lillard

[John8204]

For me the guys I would remove

Sharrman, Jones, Cunningham, Davis, Westbrook, Dame, maybe Ray Allen and Dennis Rodman

Not taking guys off the 50 list was absurd, guys were taken off the 25 list