Are clippers the worst team in the west this season without Kawhi?

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Just lost to a 1 man offense. You can't look in the mirror and name one good player on this clippers team besides George and ibaka. Embarrasing team without kawhi, tough to watch.

[Kobe_Bryant]

a 1 man show vs a 1 man show came down to the last minute. that's all I saw

[SouBeachTalents]

By your logic how would it not be the Lakers, who lost at home by a bigger margin, fully healthy, with Curry having an atrocious shooting game

[HBK_Kliq_2]

By your logic how would it not be the Lakers, who lost at home by a bigger margin, fully healthy, with Curry having an atrocious shooting game

Jordan Poole had one of those rare games he went off. Tonight he looked like a drunk moron every time he put the ball on the floor. Lakers suck too though, i will admit that. I don't think lakers are as bad as clippers without kawhi though.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

a 1 man show vs a 1 man show came down to the last minute. that's all I saw

yeah those were two lottery teams. I guess the only team in west for a healthy kawhi clips team to worry about is nuggets when jamal murray returns.

[Kobe_Bryant]

yeah those were two lottery teams. I guess the only team in west for a healthy kawhi clips team to worry about is nuggets when jamal murray returns.

I dunno I think the clippers without kawhi are probly a 7 seed and the warriors are a 8th seed. dunno about lottery. I think youre selling them short. wonder why

[1987_Lakers]

This Clippers team is stacked, beat #1 seed Utah without Kawhi. They were so stacked that Rondo was a bench warmer, the same Rondo who was our 3rd best player when LeBron won it all in 2020.

[hold this L]

This loser is going to spend an entire season to trash every single Clipper player just big up Kawhi. Nice 'fan' that he is.


Clippers did without the Kwitter what they couldn't do with him leading, make the WCF.

[Kobe_Bryant]

This Clippers team is stacked, beat #1 seed Utah without Kawhi. They were so stacked that Rondo was a bench warmer, the same Rondo who was our 3rd best player when LeBron won it all in 2020.



where's rondo now

[SATAN]

Just lost to a 1 man offense. You can't look in the mirror and name one good player on this clippers team besides George and ibaka.

Bledsoe is alright

[SATAN]

And I just realized they have a player named Jay Scrubb :oldlol:

[NBAGOAT]

reggie will be solid even though he wasnt good this game

[Spurs m8]

I wonder what it feels like to be a clown of this level

[LeCola]

Actually,

Worst team in history without Kawhi.

Best team in history with Kawhi.

Kawhi is GOAT.

Not only in basketball, he is GOAT on everything.

He created the universe.

He is god.

Everyone should worship him.

We will go to Kawhi-Paradise and able to watch him every moment.

[Spurs m8]

Actually,

Worst team in history without Kawhi.

Best team in history with Kawhi.

Kawhi is GOAT.

Not only in basketball, he is GOAT on everything.

He created the universe.

He is god.

Everyone should worship him.

We will go to Kawhi-Paradise and able to watch him every moment.

Lmfao

[2much_knowledge]

Actually,

Worst team in history without Kawhi.

Best team in history with Kawhi.

Kawhi is GOAT.

Not only in basketball, he is GOAT on everything.

He created the universe.

He is god.

Everyone should worship him.

We will go to Kawhi-Paradise and able to watch him every moment.

Sounds accurate.

[Sulico]

Why crazy fans obsessed with one player love to slander that player's teammates?

Is this well known fenomenon?

[hold this L]

Why crazy fans obsessed with one player love to slander that player's teammates?

Is this well known fenomenon?

That's 25% of the posters on ish

[clipps]

Sounds accurate.

You're such a moron.:cry:

[Jasper]

Just lost to a 1 man offense. You can't look in the mirror and name one good player on this clippers team besides George and ibaka. Embarrasing team without kawhi, tough to watch.

Kawhi is not a difference maker ,, unless you are talking about playoffs in the 4th qtr lmao

[2much_knowledge]

You're such a moron.:cry:

Do i need to put a use of sarcasm disclaimer?

[imdaman99]

That's 25% of the posters on ish

Try 50% :lol

[HBK_Kliq_2]

0-2 for this dumpster fire. Kawhi turning the worst teams in the west into top 3 SRS team. They are an embarrassment to watch, i'm glad kawhi is out to show them how f'n pathetic they are. Make some trades before deadline morons.

[hold this L]

0-2 for this dumpster fire. Kawhi turning the worst teams in the west into top 3 SRS team. They are an embarrassment to watch, i'm glad kawhi is out to show them how f'n pathetic they are. Make some trades before deadline morons.

This man is going to jerking off to every single loss from the Clippers just so he can big up Kawhi after the game. He's going to be stanning 29 teams for 82 games if Kwitter decides to just not play this RS once he's healed up.

[Spurs m8]

This man is going to jerking off to every single loss from the Clippers just so he can big up Kawhi after the game. He's going to be stanning 29 teams for 82 games if Kwitter decides to just not play this RS once he's healed up.

Yep.

These are the true lowest common denominator of 'fan'

Even worse clogging up the forum with this trash

What else would you expect from this low iq idiot, though?

[HBK_Kliq_2]

This man is going to jerking off to every single loss from the Clippers just so he can big up Kawhi after the game. He's going to be stanning 29 teams for 82 games if Kwitter decides to just not play this RS once he's healed up.

It's more like cheer for them because I want them in 6-8 seed when kawhi returns but then give up all together once I realize they are the worst team in the west not named OKC.

[Axe]

Op is a horrible troll. Never forget what he said about leaving if the clippers lost in the 2020 bubble semifinals. He did not fulfill his promise at all.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

How do you go from having a 123 offensive rating when kawhi was on court last season to this season of not even being able to score 70 points and now shooting 31% in the next game.

Losing kawhi is like losing curry + klay at the same time. He he he he's something else man wow god-like

[SouBeachTalents]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202106160UTA.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202106180LAC.html

What other superstar in history saw their team win 4+ playoff games without them? That's some Durant on the Warriors shit :lol

[HBK_Kliq_2]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202106160UTA.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202106180LAC.html

What other superstar in history saw their team win 4+ playoff games without them? That's some Durant on the Warriors shit :lol

No Conley for 1 game + quarantine Paul

You still lost against suns without Paul in 2 games and lost by 35 points on your home court in the final game.


Kawhi carried clippers by himself out of the 1st round when in reality they should have been swept with the way they played, this uplifted the entire clippers team for the rest of the playoffs. There was still hope kawhi can return in playoffs, so they won a few games.

[SouBeachTalents]

No Conley for 1 game + quarantine Paul

You still lost against suns without Paul in 2 games and lost by 35 points on your home court in the final game.


Kawhi carried clippers by himself out of the 1st round when in reality they should have been swept with the way they played, this uplifted the entire clippers team for the rest of the playoffs. There was still hope kawhi can return in playoffs, so they won a few games.
Didn't answer the question. Superstars whose teams won 4+ playoff games without them

Durant on the Warriors
Kawhi on the Clippers

Until someone proves otherwise, that's it. In the history of the league, only Kawhi's on the same level as Warriors Durant in this regard :lol

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Didn't answer the question. Superstars whose teams won 4+ playoff games without them

Durant on the Warriors
Kawhi on the Clippers

Until someone proves otherwise, that's it. In the history of the league, only Kawhi's on the same level as Warriors Durant in this regard :lol

1 game Conley wasn't playing
1 game Conley couldn't walk

2 games Chris Paul was still out of shape because he just got out of quarantine. How come Chris Paul can spot them 2 games and still close them in 6? Pathetic

[HBK_Kliq_2]

1-4 ball coming up and the most pathetic display of offensive basketball in the NBA

wow very similar to those Durant warriors

[SouBeachTalents]

1 game Conley wasn't playing
1 game Conley couldn't walk

2 games Chris Paul was still out of shape because he just got out of quarantine. How come Chris Paul can spot them 2 games and still close them in 6? Pathetic
So your argument is 33 year old Conley is equivalent to peak Kawhi? Not sure that helps your cause here :lol

What's crazy too is the Clippers lost the first 3 games of the conference finals by a grand total of 11 points. They were a couple plays away from winning the conference outright without Kawhi.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

So your argument is 33 year old Conley is equivalent to peak Kawhi? Not sure that helps your cause here :lol

What's crazy too is the Clippers lost the first 3 games of the conference finals by a grand total of 11 points. They were a couple plays away from winning the conference outright without Kawhi.

Conley is their best playoff performer. Gobert doesn't have it in playoffs. So its just George vs Mitchell he should be able to win 2 games after kawhi carried him the first 2 wins.

Clippers have the same exact team now and look like the worst team in the west, just like how raptors looked like the worst team in the east last season, just like spurs were a joke in the playoffs from 2009-2012 until kawhi second season. You see the trend now?

[tontoz]

Just lost to a 1 man offense. You can't look in the mirror and name one good player on this clippers team besides George and ibaka. Embarrasing team without kawhi, tough to watch.


:roll:

7-4, one game behind the 2nd seed Suns.

I'll go out on a limb and say they aren't the worst team in the west.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

:roll:

7-4, one game behind the 2nd seed Suns.

I'll go out on a limb and say they aren't the worst team in the west.

That was before Marcus morris took a vacation. They were allowing a 140 offensive rating with morris on the court.

Now you see what kawhi has to deal with? And still send luka's ass crying every year

[HBK_Kliq_2]

So your argument is 33 year old Conley is equivalent to peak Kawhi? Not sure that helps your cause here :lol

What's crazy too is the Clippers lost the first 3 games of the conference finals by a grand total of 11 points. They were a couple plays away from winning the conference outright without Kawhi.

Chris Paul spotted them 2 games they still lost in 6

Mike Conley was out 1 win and the other win he couldn't even walk. Conley is their best player. First two games they got lucky because Jordan Clarkson randomly went off. Kawhi was blowing them out in games 3 and 4

[tontoz]

That was before Marcus morris took a vacation. They were allowing a 140 offensive rating with morris on the court.

Now you see what kawhi has to deal with? And still send luka's ass crying every year


Luka has averaged 35/10/8 against the clippers in the playoffs. I wonder if Kawhi will be too scared to guard him again this season.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Luka has averaged 35/10/8 against the clippers in the playoffs. I wonder if Kawhi will be too scared to guard him again this season.

ESPN pulled up a stat when kawhi guards luka he shoots like 34%

Are you talking about the same series kawhi averaged 31 points on 72% TS??

[FireDavidKahn]

Kawhi's teams without him: Still elite

LeGOAT's teams without him: Among the worst in the league.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kawhi's teams without him: Still elite

LeGOAT's teams without him: Among the worst in the league.

miami heat won 47 games in 2010 and then added peak chris bosh

Irving also led Nets to the greatest offense of all time last season

[tontoz]

ESPN pulled up a stat when kawhi guards luka he shoots like 34%

Are you talking about the same series kawhi averaged 31 points on 72% TS??


Luka's numbers were from the last two years when Kawhi was such a coward he let midget Beverly guard Luka.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kawhi has done it all in this era, he has eliminated every great guard\wing player you can think of.

Lillard, lebron durant all in 2014

harden in 2017

butler, curry in 2019

luka in 2020 and 2021

The only guy he hasn't eliminated was Jamal Murray but he had jokic as an elite sidekick.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Luka's numbers were from the last two years when Kawhi was such a coward he let midget Beverly guard Luka.

kawhi guarded luka in games 3-7 last season and shut him down but luka cowardly runs away from him behind screens. Luka had empty stats anyway, his offense rating was shit and his defense was shit. Luka Westbrook pretty much.

[GimmeThat]

if Kawhi Leonard doesn't return to court this season soon, he'll be going down with the likes of Bill Walton

[HBK_Kliq_2]

if Kawhi Leonard doesn't return to court this season soon, he'll be going down with the likes of Bill Walton

He has already matched the finals mvps of guys like Bird and Kobe.

A loser like Jerry West is already in top 20 as well and Kawhi has double the finals mvps.

His career is already clearly top 10 GOAT and he still has the rest of his 30's left. GiveKawhithat.

[SouBeachTalents]

He has already matched the finals mvps of guys like Bird and Kobe.

A loser like Jerry West is already in top 20 as well and Kawhi has double the finals mvps.

His career is already clearly top 10 GOAT and he still has the rest of his 30's left. GiveKawhithat.
You need at least one MVP & 10 All-NBA Teams to make the top 10. Kawhi’s never winning MVP, and I wouldn’t bet on him getting that many All-NBA Teams either.

[GimmeThat]

He has already matched the finals mvps of guys like Bird and Kobe.

A loser like Jerry West is already in top 20 as well and Kawhi has double the finals mvps.

His career is already clearly top 10 GOAT and he still has the rest of his 30's left. GiveKawhithat.

same thing could all be said about Durant/Curry/James

for all we know, Simmons/KAT/Embiid/Zion/Ingram/Young/Jokic/Giannis could all shut Kawhi down give the right scenario.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

You need at least one MVP & 10 All-NBA Teams to make the top 10. Kawhi’s never winning MVP, and I wouldn’t bet on him getting that many All-NBA Teams either.

but curry can have 0 finals mvps?

kawhi already has 12 total all nba selections, well on pace to pass up guys like Shaq.

His 2016 or 2017 seasons can hold up with any regular season MVP in nba history as well, they just went with the narrative of more fancy players that shoot 3's like curry or triple doubles like westbrook.

[tontoz]

kawhi guarded luka in games 3-7 last season and shut him down but luka cowardly runs away from him behind screens. Luka had empty stats anyway, his offense rating was shit and his defense was shit. Luka Westbrook pretty much.


Luka had a TS of 58% against them over the last two years averaging 36 ppg. He worked them, taking the favored clippers to 6/7 games at ages 21/22.

At age 22 Kawhi was averaging 13 ppg. :oldlol:

[HBK_Kliq_2]

same thing could all be said about Durant/Curry/James

for all we know, Simmons/KAT/Embiid/Zion/Ingram/Young/Jokic/Giannis could all shut Kawhi down give the right scenario.


He has already matched the finals mvps of guys like Bird and Kobe.

same thing could all be said about Curry


https://youtu.be/jaIzP-ZTVBI

Never go full retard. Curry went full retard in 2016 finals, went home empty handed.

[GimmeThat]

[B]



https://youtu.be/jaIzP-ZTVBI

Never go full retard. Curry went full retard in 2016 finals, went home empty handed.

just saying even you win back to back MVPs when you're 26/27 years old, no one cares if you still got the 30's, no guarantees on winning anything

[jalbert009]

but curry can have 0 finals mvps?

kawhi already has 12 total all nba selections, well on pace to pass up guys like Shaq.

His 2016 or 2017 seasons can hold up with any regular season MVP in nba history as well, they just went with the narrative of more fancy players that shoot 3's like curry or triple doubles like westbrook.

Kawhi only has 5 All NBA Team selections. Get your facts straight. He has 7 All NBA defensive team selections. Dont amalgamate the 2 awards its very misleading.

[tontoz]

Let's not overlook the title to the thread. He actually asked if the clippers were the worst team in the west without Kawhi.

This is the same team that won playoff games against the top seeded jazz and suns without Kawhi.

:facepalm

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kawhi only has 5 All NBA Team selections. Get your facts straight. He has 7 All NBA defensive team selections. Dont amalgamate the 2 awards its very misleading.

all defense selections count as well, that's 12 total. He gets an all nba selection and all defense selection every season, so he would only need to play 3 more seasons to pass shaq in total all nba\all defense selections.

Anyways, he will get 10 all nba selections as well. Playing elite from 31-35 is all he has to do. Clearly deserved a 2nd team in 2015 as well.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Let's not overlook the title to the thread. He actually asked if the clippers were the worst team in the west without Kawhi.

This is the same team that won playoff games against the top seeded jazz and suns without Kawhi.

:facepalm

You know how damn good you have to be do to lead the playoff in offensive win shares and only play 11 total games? Like the greatest of all time level good. They were carried for 6 wins, then beat a 45 win team utah jazz (that's what they are without conley) and lost to suns in 6 despite chris paul spotting them 2 games and were embarrassed by 35 points in their final game.


What about you? WHAT ABOUT YOU in 2016??

2016 warriors eliminated houston rockets in 1st round and curry was 11th in total minutes and only played 2 games

after that, they eliminated the blazers in the 2nd round and curry started 1 game while klay averaged 31PPG

So what about you curry fan you hypocrite zero finals mvps piece of shit.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

https://youtu.be/IN64ta25VBA

No curry what about you in 2016

[tontoz]

You know how damn good you have to be do to lead the playoff in offensive win shares and only play 11 total games? Like the greatest of all time level good. They were carried for 6 wins, then beat a 45 win team utah jazz (that's what they are without conley) and lost to suns in 6 despite chris paul spotting them 2 games and were embarrassed by 35 points in their final game.


What about you? WHAT ABOUT YOU in 2016??

2016 warriors eliminated houston rockets in 1st round and curry was 11th in total minutes and only played 2 games

after that, they eliminated the blazers in the 2nd round and curry started 1 game while klay averaged 31PPG

So what about you curry fan you hypocrite zero finals mvps piece of shit.


Including the playoffs the Jazz were 17-9 without Conley last season:oldlol:


Last year Curry won the scoring title with historic efficiency and was 3rd in the MVP voting.

He is currently leading the MVP voting while the Clippers keep winning without Kawhi, who never has and never will win the MVP.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Including the playoffs the Jazz were 17-9 without Conley last season:oldlol:


Last year Curry won the scoring title with historic efficiency and was 3rd in the MVP voting.

He is currently leading the MVP voting while the Clippers keep winning without Kawhi, who never has and never will win the MVP.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/

conley was 6th in the entire league in ON|OFF raptor last season.

last year curry was named top 3 mvp and couldn't even get his team to the playoffs because he lost to ja morant hahahahah

Kawhi dominated two different finals and won finals mvp both times. While Curry chokes every finals or is 2nd fiddle to Durant and has never won a finals MVP.

[tontoz]

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/

conley was 6th in the entire league in ON|OFF raptor last season.

last year curry was named top 3 mvp and couldn't even get his team to the playoffs because he lost to ja morant hahahahah

Kawhi dominated two different finals and won finals mvp both times. While Curry chokes every finals or is 2nd fiddle to Durant and has never won a finals MVP.


GS had the 8 seed after the regular season because Curry punk'd Morant in the last game, outscoring him 46-16.

They had the 8 seed in spite of going 2-9 without curry. It was only the play in nonsense that kept them out of the playoffs.

Iggy won a FMVP averaging 10 ppg less than Curry which shows how lame the award is. He was left wide open all series while the defense focused on Curry.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Luka had a TS of 58% against them over the last two years averaging 36 ppg. He worked them, taking the favored clippers to 6/7 games at ages 21/22.

At age 22 Kawhi was averaging 13 ppg. :oldlol:

Kawhi was a finals MVP at that age and nobody on the team was averaging more then 16PPG, it was a spreaded load.

You're just a chucker and a walking 1st round exit.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

GS had the 8 seed after the regular season because Curry punk'd Morant in the last game, outscoring him 46-16.

They had the 8 seed in spite of going 2-9 without curry. It was only the play in nonsense that kept them out of the playoffs.

Iggy won a FMVP averaging 10 ppg less than Curry which shows how lame the award is. He was left wide open all series while the defense focused on Curry.

You can give excuses all you want but you still failed to even make the playoffs and got dominated by ja morant in the play in game.

Curry was insanely hyped even by 2015, so the voters had no reason to lie. Their eyes don't lie and curry just wasn't dominant enough to make up for Iggy's 2 way dominance.

I can say the same thing about regular season mvp award being lame. Kawhi won 67 games in 2016 and they had the greatest home record of all time at 40-1, with no two teammates as good as klay\draymond. So the award should of went to Kawhi then.

[tontoz]

You can give excuses all you want but you still failed to even make the playoffs and got dominated by ja morant in the play in game.

Curry was insanely hyped even by 2015, so the voters had no reason to lie. Their eyes don't lie and curry just wasn't dominant enough to make up for Iggy's 2 way dominance.

I can say the same thing about regular season mvp award being lame. Kawhi won 67 games in 2016 and they had the greatest home record of all time at 40-1, with no two teammates as good as klay\draymond. So the award should of went to Kawhi then.

How exactly did curry get dominated in the play in game? He scored 39 points..

The team was +4 with curry on the floor, -9 in the 8 minutes he was on the bench.

Iggy's two way dominance? All he did was hit wide open shots while LeBron scored 36 ppg. There has never been a regular season MVP as weak as Iggy's FMVP.

Draymond showed how valuable he is when he had to play without Curry. He was garbage. GS was 2-9 without him last year and the worst team in the league when Curry was out all year

[HBK_Kliq_2]

How exactly did curry get dominated in the play in game? He scored 39 points..

The team was +4 with curry on the floor, -9 in the 8 minutes he was on the bench.

Iggy's two way dominance? All he did was hit wide open shots while LeBron scored 36 ppg. There has never been a regular season MVP as weak as Iggy's FMVP.

Draymond showed how valuable he is when he had to play without Curry. He was garbage. GS was 2-9 without him last year and the worst team in the league when Curry was out all year

1 game play in to get your team in the playoffs, you should be dominant enough to win that game guaranteed. You're playing against Dillon Brooks for god sakes. Memphis looked terrible in the playoffs as well.

Iggy in the 2015 finals had a 13.6 GmSC (production stat on bball reference page if you're not familiar). That's higher then anybody on the spurs in the 2014 finals outside of kawhi. He did that and he had to guard Lebron who ended up with a 48% TS.

When Draymond had to play without Curry huh? So when did Curry ever have to play without Draymond? He has never done anything worth mentioning without having Draymond Pippen by his side to anchor the defense and achor the playmaking.

[tontoz]

1 game play in to get your team in the playoffs, you should be dominant enough to win that game guaranteed. You're playing against Dillon Brooks for god sakes. Memphis looked terrible in the playoffs as well.

Iggy in the 2015 finals had a 13.6 GmSC (production stat on bball reference page if you're not familiar). That's higher then anybody on the spurs in the 2014 finals outside of kawhi. He did that and he had to guard Lebron who ended up with a 48% TS.

When Draymond had to play without Curry huh? So when did Curry ever have to play without Draymond? He has never done anything worth mentioning without having Draymond Pippen by his side to anchor the defense and achor the playmaking.


Warriors are 38-34 without Draymond since he came into the league. They are still a winning team, just like all of Kawhi's teams are without him.

Without Curry GS is garbage.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Warriors are 38-34 without Draymond since he came into the league. They are still a winning team, just like all of Kawhi's teams are without him.

Without Curry GS is garbage.

So pretty much an 8th seed without draymond, thanks for making my point.

Raptors had lowry\siakam\vanvleet last season and won 27 games.

[tontoz]

So pretty much an 8th seed without draymond, thanks for making my point.

Raptors had lowry\siakam\vanvleet last season and won 27 games.

Without Draymond and Klay they still had a winning record because of Curry.

The raps won 55 games the year after Kawhi left.

[RRR3]

Kawhi's impact is not comparable to Curry's. Period.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kawhi's impact is not comparable to Curry's. Period.

Agreed. Its not even close. Kawhi has better offense in the playoffs and is giving you 10x better defense.

Only game 7 buzzer beater ever vs 0 big playoff shots ever

2 finals mvps vs 0 finals mvps

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Without Draymond and Klay they still had a winning record because of Curry.

The raps won 55 games the year after Kawhi left.

You said it yourself, you are a 44 win type team without draymond

Raptors had 27 wins last season with most of the title core there

[tontoz]

You said it yourself, you are a 44 win type team without draymond

Raptors had 27 wins last season with most of the title core there

Raps played their home games in Florida. Gasol and ibaka weren't there.

Pretty much all their rotation players had injury problems.

They won 59 games before Kawhi and 55 games after Kawhi.

[tontoz]

Over the last 4 years the warriors are 38-75 without Steph.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Raps played their home games in Florida. Gasol and ibaka weren't there.

Pretty much all their rotation players had injury problems.

They won 59 games before Kawhi and 55 games after Kawhi.

Most teams didn't have crowd though, it was a virus season. Ibaka and gasol were role players. Siakam has also never had a positive bpm in playoffs without kawhi.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Over the last 4 years the warriors are 38-75 without Steph.

44 win team without Draymond says it all. Curry was an irrelevant little peasant until draymond was drafted.

[RRR3]

Agreed. Its not even close. Kawhi has better offense in the playoffs and is giving you 10x better defense.

Only game 7 buzzer beater ever vs 0 big playoff shots ever

2 finals mvps vs 0 finals mvps
You know damn well I meant Curry has more impact you troll.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Agreed. Its not even close. Kawhi has better offense in the playoffs and is giving you 10x better defense.

Only game 7 buzzer beater ever vs 0 big playoff shots ever

2 finals mvps vs 0 finals mvps

Just thought this response by me was worth quoting again. Just like how watching kawhi's playoff wins over curry in 2013 and 2019 were worth watching again.

[RRR3]

Just thought this response by me was worth quoting again. Just like how watching kawhi's playoff wins over curry in 2013 and 2019 were worth watching again.
Kawhi was a ****ing role player in 2013 :lol

[HBK_Kliq_2]

You know damn well I meant Curry has more impact you troll.

Oh ok. I thought you actually had a brain, silly me

[RRR3]

Duh-uhhhh
:yaohappy:

[tontoz]

44 win team without Draymond says it all. Curry was an irrelevant little peasant until draymond was drafted.

38-75 the last 4 years without curry. They are a winner with him, garbage without him.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kawhi was a ****ing role player in 2013 :lol

He led them in playoff vorp in 2013. Can you name me another "role player" that led a finals team in vorp?

Also why is pop making kawhi leading the team in minutes in the finals if he's a role player. Is pop an idiot?

[HBK_Kliq_2]

38-75 the last 4 years without curry. They are a winner with him, garbage without him.

44 win type team without draymond. So curry is pretty much just another Damian lillard when draymond is not playing.

[tontoz]

Most teams didn't have crowd though, it was a virus season. Ibaka and gasol were role players. Siakam has also never had a positive bpm in playoffs without kawhi.


Most teams didn't.have to play their home games over a thousand miles from home.

[tontoz]

44 win type team without draymond. So curry is pretty much just another Damian lillard when draymond is not playing.


Wrong. The record without Draymond is for his entire career.

This includes 29 games Draymond missed in 19/20 when Curry and Klay were out also.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Most teams didn't.have to play their home games over a thousand miles from home.

No fans are no fans

Raptors in 2018 couldn't win a game past 1st round

Warriors in 2016 were winning games without curry in the 2nd round easily.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Wrong. The record without Draymond is for his entire career.

This includes 29 games Draymond missed in 19/20 when Curry and Klay were out also.

Irrelevant until drafting draymond

0 playoff wins without draymond

Am I right

[tontoz]

Irrelevant until drafting draymond

0 playoff wins without draymond

Am I right

If I take out the 19/20 season, when Steph and Klay were also out, their record without Draymond was.....



33-10

[SATAN]

They are doing better than the Lakers. Interesting...

[HBK_Kliq_2]

If I take out the 19/20 season, when Steph and Klay were also out, their record without Draymond was.....



33-10

Draymond is never missing any games.

79 in 2015
81 in 2016
76 2017
70 in 2018 when curry played 51
66 in 2019 but curry only played 69

Draymond is always around, you're always relying on him. The team didn't become serious title contenders until steve kerr was hired and made draymond a starter, as well as the point forward. Draymond also led 2016 in playoff win shares and dominated the finals while you get embarrassed during his suspension. Draymond also won the first two rounds of 2016 playoffs while curry sat on his ass, draymond dominated the rockets 2019 series while curry misses 10 different layups.

Do something in your life without papa draymond and then we'll talk.

[tontoz]

Draymond is never missing any games.

79 in 2015
81 in 2016
76 2017
70 in 2018 when curry played 51
66 in 2019 but curry only played 69

Draymond is always around, you're always relying on him. The team didn't become serious title contenders until steve kerr was hired and made draymond a starter, as well as the point forward. Draymond also led 2016 in playoff win shares and dominated the finals while you get embarrassed during his suspension. Draymond also won the first two rounds of 2016 playoffs while curry sat on his ass, draymond dominated the rockets 2019 series while curry misses 10 different layups.

Do something in your life without papa draymond and then we'll talk.


33-10 without dray.

Raps won over 50 without Kawhi. Clippers had a winning record without him last year and again this year. They even won 4 playoff games without him.

Without Steph GS is garbage, one of the worst teams in the league. Last season they were 2-7 without him. With him they were 37-26 last year, 11-1 this year, even with Klay out.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

33-10 without dray.

Raps won over 50 without Kawhi. Clippers had a winning record without him last year and again this year. They even won 4 playoff games without him.

Without Steph GS is garbage, one of the worst teams in the league. Last season they were 2-7 without him. With him they were 37-26 last year, 11-1 this year, even with Klay out.

In 2019, they went 9-7 without draymond. So that's like a 43 win team.

2015-2017 he only missed like 10 games total. So not enough sample size there.

The only time they did good without draymond was in 2018 but that was only a 12 game span and curry missed over 30 games that season.

[Nike D'Antoni]

Clippers are up 30 on Minnesota, the same team that was up 30 on Lakers yesterday.

[hold this L]

Kawhi continues to be in the most stacked teams out of any player since Bill.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kawhi continues to be in the most stacked teams out of any player since Bill.

Neither of his titles he played with a player close to prime Durant

[Axe]

Flippers keep winning without the flaw. :biggums:

[ImKobe]

Uh oh, looks like they might be a WCF Team without Kawhi yet again!

Imagine your team peaking higher WITHOUT you :kobe: .

[Axe]

Uh oh, looks like they might be a WCF Team without Kawhi yet again!

Imagine your team peaking higher WITHOUT you :kobe: .
:roll:

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Morris is back. The shit show will continue. 0-3 with him now. Ty lue played him all overtime and clippers scored 1 point. Dumb fu*k never learns, playing morris over ibaka what a dumbass hahahaha mediocre ass team without kawin

[tontoz]

An OT loss against a winning team OMG THE SKY IS FALLING.

Still 10-8, only 1.5 games out of the 3rd seed.

[hold this L]

brick any time clips lose

https://media2.giphy.com/media/xT1XGXFzcMELFcUBZ6/200w.webp?cid=ecf05e47mt1prgf9iqjzwqm2wio3u4lj3hye 0ebbudf5ch6s&rid=200w.webp&ct=g

[HBK_Kliq_2]

An OT loss against a winning team OMG THE SKY IS FALLING.

Still 10-8, only 1.5 games out of the 3rd seed.

they haven't beat 1 good team yet if you look at their schedule

Heat without Jimmy Butler and Mavs without Luka hahahahaha

[GrayGoat]

Uh oh, looks like they might be a WCF Team without Kawhi yet again!

Imagine your team peaking higher WITHOUT you :kobe: .

:biggums::biggums::biggums::lol

[RRR3]

They have the seventh best net rating in the NBA, they are better than their record, and it will come to reflect that over time. Besides they've had a few injuries to key players and Reggie Jackson's shot has been off. They'll be fine, might even make the finals without Kawhit since the league is so wide open :eek:

[HBK_Kliq_2]

They have the seventh best net rating in the NBA, they are better than their record, and it will come to reflect that over time. Besides they've had a few injuries to key players and Reggie Jackson's shot has been off. They'll be fine, might even make the finals without Kawhit since the league is so wide open :eek:

Last season Luka beat them by 50 points without kawhi. yesterday he beat them again.

Paul George got so lucky, without kawhi holding his hand he would be getting sodomized by luka on a daily basis.

[RRR3]

Last season Luka beat them by 50 points without kawhi. yesterday he beat them again.

Paul George got so lucky, without kawhi holding his hand he would be getting sodomized by luka on a daily basis.
Paul George led the Clippers farther in the playoffs than Kawhit did. Tell us where it hurts.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Paul George led the Clippers farther in the playoffs than Kawhit did. Tell us where it hurts.

Lose by 50 points without you and then you eliminate them the same season.

Has any superstar ever done what kawhi did last season? Esepdiqlly with a career loser who hasn't been out of the 1st round since 2015. The goat is always working miracles

[RRR3]

Klitty in a daze after being destroyed in yet another thread. Poor guy has taken too many blows.