It's coincidence that the years MJ didn't have Pippen are the yrs that everyone loses

[3ba11]

Durant, Lebron, Giannis, and Curry were a lottery in their first couple years, and that's the period you're knocking MJ for losing without Pippen

So you lames are weaponizing a coincidence that the only years Jordan didn't have Pippen are his first couple years, when basically EVERYONE is lottery, like Lebron, Giannis, Curry and KD (all the goats)

So the argument that "MJ didn't win without Pippen" is incredibly weak and reveals the character of the person making it (low or uninformed)

[SATAN]

1-9

[Nikola_]

1-9

2-10 (against philly in 1990)

60 win pace in 98 without pippen (half a season)

94-95 bulls 34-31, 13-4 with MJ

[Lebron23]

No Pip No Chip

[SouBeachTalents]

2-10 (against philly in 1990)

60 win pace in 98 without pippen (half a season)

94-95 bulls 34-31, 13-4 with MJ
How'd they do in '94?

[Nikola_]

How'd they do in '94?

lost in ECSF, they did fairly worse than in 93 when they won a championship.

[SouBeachTalents]

lost in ECSF, they did fairly worse than in 93 when they won a championship.
They actually won more playoff games in '94 than they did with Jordan in '95

[Nikola_]

They actually won more playoff games in '94 than they did with Jordan in '95

Both of those seasons they lost in ECSF. One playoff win dont matter.
In those years bulls with MJ was championship or bust. Fact is Allong came scottie begged Mike the savior to come back. :lol

https://www.nicekicks.com/files/2020/09/air-jordan-10-chicago-scottie-pippen-sole.gif

[expansionera]

And what about those years on the Wizards? Scottie was still a winning player in Portland and Houston, Mike needed plenty of rest (multiple retirements) and help

[3ba11]

And what about those years on the Wizards? Scottie was still a winning player in Portland and Houston, Mike needed plenty of rest (multiple retirements) and help


Pippen was never a 2nd option except alongside Mike, the goat scorer.

Otherwise, he was a complete, bonafide bum in Houston and Portland, stop playing.. He averaged 11 ppg on horrific efficiency in the 99-03' Playoffs.

Btw, he was outscored by the opposing 2nd leading scorer in 17 of 17 series that he wasn't on Mike's team or a 3-peat team.. Only Mike's ability to get 30+ off-ball in his sleep and goat mental strength and alpha elevated Pippen to 2nd option

[aceman]

Pippen was never a 2nd option except alongside Mike, the goat scorer.

Otherwise, he was a complete, bonafide bum in Houston and Portland, stop playing.. He averaged 11 ppg on horrific efficiency in the 99-03' Playoffs.

Btw, he was outscored by the opposing 2nd leading scorer in 17 of 17 series that he wasn't on Mike's team or a 3-peat team.. Only Mike's ability to get 30+ off-ball in his sleep and goat mental strength and alpha elevated Pippen to 2nd option

Really adding disclaimers now. Entire career as second option was with mj. Was never expected or put into that role again.
Interesting as first option 94 bulls were on track for 60 wins...

[3ba11]

Really adding disclaimers now. Entire career as second option was with mj. Was never expected or put into that role again.
Interesting as first option 94 bulls were on track for 60 wins...


A good regular season like Iggy's 57 wins in 2013, or Marc Gasol's 55 wins, or Lowry's, or basically anyone's - it's a low bar and mid-tier caliber that no one in history ever got credit for, but now you want to credit Pippen for it and pretend it's top 75 like Giannis, Dirk, or anyone legitimate.. Heck, Paul George did far more with far less in Indiana.. And by far less I mean brand of ball/know-how/experience up the ladder

[97 bulls]

A good regular season like Iggy's 57 wins in 2013, or Marc Gasol's 55 wins, or Lowry's, or basically anyone's - it's a low bar and mid-tier caliber that no one in history ever got credit for, but now you want to credit Pippen for it and pretend it's top 75 like Giannis, Dirk, or anyone legitimate.. Heck, Paul George did far more with far less in Indiana.. And by far less I mean brand of ball/know-how/experience up the ladder

Did Jordan ever win that many games without Scottie?

[aceman]

A good regular season like Iggy's 57 wins in 2013, or Marc Gasol's 55 wins, or Lowry's, or basically anyone's - it's a low bar and mid-tier caliber that no one in history ever got credit for, but now you want to credit Pippen for it and pretend it's top 75 like Giannis, Dirk, or anyone legitimate.. Heck, Paul George did far more with far less in Indiana.. And by far less I mean brand of ball/know-how/experience up the ladder

Jordan did less with more if we talking about 95 season Pippen had.
Basis for Pippen's standing in game is built not on being first option scorer because, well he only did that for less than two seasons.
Camelo is top 75 & I can tell you defense & willingness to putting winning ahead of stats not a consideration

[8Ball]

Jordan never won 50 games without Pip

[2much_knowledge]

They wanna act like Pippen was some kind of hotshot in 88 and 89 lol , to make themselves feel better

Pippen not even made the rookie team. NONE

While Jordan was making an unprecedented season in 88 sweeping all awards left and right

[2much_knowledge]

Pippen was irrelevant till 1990. The same playoffs that he literally cost them the championship cause in his own words ( i couldn't answer the bell )

Thats the truth, like it or not

[Bronbron23]

Durant, Lebron, Giannis, and Curry were a lottery in their first couple years, and that's the period you're knocking MJ for losing without Pippen

So you lames are weaponizing a coincidence that the only years Jordan didn't have Pippen are his first couple years, when basically EVERYONE is lottery, like Lebron, Giannis, Curry and KD (all the goats)

So the argument that "MJ didn't win without Pippen" is incredibly weak and reveals the character of the person making it (low or uninformed)

1-9 idiots are just usually just bron trolls. It was mj's first few years in the nba and his team was trash.

[Full Court]

Durant, Lebron, Giannis, and Curry were a lottery in their first couple years, and that's the period you're knocking MJ for losing without Pippen

So you lames are weaponizing a coincidence that the only years Jordan didn't have Pippen are his first couple years, when basically EVERYONE is lottery, like Lebron, Giannis, Curry and KD (all the goats)

So the argument that "MJ didn't win without Pippen" is incredibly weak and reveals the character of the person making it (low or uninformed)

Bro, give up the Pippen hate. Jordan is the clear GOAT, and his accomplishments stand on their own. He had a garbage team his first few years that nobody in history could have won a championship with. Pippen unquestionably made the team better and was a great player himself. That doesn't diminish Jordan's accomplishments, impact, or GOAT status.