35,426: Lebron, if healthy, is set to break the scoring record early Next season.

[jmcwilliams]

He consistently averages 25 ppg.

35,426, 80x25=2000= 37,426

1 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 38,387

35,426: If Lebron averages 35 ppg this season 35,426 Plus 2800= 38,226

He could actually do it this year if he averaged 35 plus points and had a great post season. I doubt that though. I expect Lebron to be crowned scoring champion Early to Mid season next year. I also expect to see his game transition into A scorer first mentality. At least more so than we have seen. So if Lebron suddenly become A score First player we know what he is hunting for. I expect more garbage time minutes as well.

Of course this assumes that He plays all games and continues excellence. Not much of A chance in that. He will take games off and will likely decline a bit.

[ELITEpower23]

Wow, that means he'll be the all time scoring Champ in both categories:

• Grueling 82-game regular season
• High-pressure Playoffs

GOAT THINGS

[Kobe_Bryant]

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2007/11/15/sports/15bonds-600.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale

[1987_Lakers]

I still thought he was like 3 seasons away, didn't know he was projected to break it early next year.

Gonna end his career with 40k pts, 10k rbs, 10k asts. Insane.

[Kobe_Bryant]

I still thought he was like 3 seasons away, didn't know he was projected to break it early next year.

Gonna end his career with 40k pts, 10k rbs, 10k asts. Insane.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/16/36/09/163609d0f2e310aa120cf2bbb8045b90.jpg

steroids are a hell of a drug

he's gonna break kareems record averaging 27/10/8 in year 20

[ELITEpower23]

steroids are a hell of a drug

he's gonna break kareems record averaging 27/10/8 in year 20

Why don't more players just do steroids like Barry and LeBron/Kobe to have careers like them? :oldlol: Whoops

[jmcwilliams]

I still thought he was like 3 seasons away, didn't know he was projected to break it early next year.

Gonna end his career with 40k pts, 10k rbs, 10k asts. Insane.

Worst case scenerio it looks like he will have by the End of Next season. We still don't know what he will do this season. He may go Score first and average more than usual. No doubt he's chasing it now though.

The most Lebron Ever scored in a season
LeBron James 2005-06 CLECLE 79 2,478 42.5 31.4 7.0 6.6 1.6 0.8 3.3 11.1 23.1 48.0 1.6 4.8 33.5 7.6 10.3 73.8 3,361 556 521 123 66 260 181 +275

When Healthy he averages around 2,000 points in A season. We have never seen A score first Lebron though. We just might now that his career is wrapping up and he wants this thing. Who knows.

But, if he continues his Healthy Lebron Scoring averages then He will have the Title Mid Next season. Very curious to see what he does this season. I have no doubt that Lebron could average 35 PPG if he wanted to.

These are the Best season Averages turned in by players.

1. Wilt Chamberlain* 50.36 1961-62
2. Wilt Chamberlain* 44.83 1962-63
3. Wilt Chamberlain* 38.39 1960-61
4. Wilt Chamberlain* 37.60 1959-60
5. Michael Jordan* 37.09 1986-87
6. Wilt Chamberlain* 36.85 1963-64
7. James Harden 36.13 2018-19
8. Rick Barry* 35.58 1966-67
9. Kobe Bryan.........................................
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39. LeBron James 31.37 2005-06. Not Bad for A guy who has never been considered A SCORER. I would like to see what A score first Lebron is capable of.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Why don't more players just do steroids like Barry and LeBron/Kobe to have careers like them? :oldlol: Whoops

sorry i was never linked to a steroid clinic. only barry bonds and lebron james were out of those 3 names you mentioned

[1987_Lakers]

sorry i was never linked to a steroid clinic. only barry bonds and lebron james were out of those 3 names you mentioned

Germany

[Thenameless]

I still thought he was like 3 seasons away, didn't know he was projected to break it early next year.

Gonna end his career with 40k pts, 10k rbs, 10k asts. Insane.

The 3 seasons projection is him reaching 40,000 points.

[Kobe_Bryant]

anyone else find it odd that Alex Ovechkin is still on a 50 goal per season type pace when hes about to break gretzkys all time goal record

and gretzky set his record getting 9 goals in his last season


https://novacapsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/nhl.com_-2.jpg

anyone also find it funny how tom brady is on pace to have like 40+ touchdowns this season to extend his all time record at age 44

and peyton manning set his record with 9 his last season at age 39


https://www.nbcsports.com/sites/rsnunited/files/article/hero/brady_tom_manning_peyton_getty.jpg


anyone also find it funny how lebron is about to break kareems all time scoring record while averaging close to 30ppg at age 38 in year 20


and kareem set his record averaging 10 points in year 20


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JXC8N6iUoMg/maxresdefault.jpg





sounds a lot like how barry bonds set his all time record of 762 during a 30 homerun season with a league leading 132 walks. he easily hits 40+ homers if pitched to


and hank aaron set his record of 755 with 10 homeruns his final season


https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/5TND6CC5D4I6XKCJN6KCHJ277U.jpg

[jmcwilliams]

anyone else find it odd that Alex Ovechkin is still on a 50 goal per season type pace when hes about to break gretzkys all time goal record

and gretzky set his record getting 9 goals in his last season


https://novacapsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/nhl.com_-2.jpg

anyone also find it funny how tom brady is on pace to have like 40+ touchdowns this season to extend his all time record at age 44

and peyton manning set his record with 9 his last season at age 39


https://www.nbcsports.com/sites/rsnunited/files/article/hero/brady_tom_manning_peyton_getty.jpg


anyone also find it funny how lebron is about to break kareems all time scoring record while averaging close to 30ppg at age 38 in year 20


and kareem set his record averaging 10 points in year 20


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JXC8N6iUoMg/maxresdefault.jpg





sounds a lot like how barry bonds set his all time record of 762 during a 30 homerun season with a league leading 132 walks. he easily hits 40+ homers if pitched to


and hank aaron set his record of 755 with 10 homeruns his final season


https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/5TND6CC5D4I6XKCJN6KCHJ277U.jpg

Look, I would be surprise if Lebron wasn't on TRT. It was A BIG problem in MMA as well until they really cracked down on testing and everyone got pinched. If the NBA feels the need to crackdown then most all of your elite players are going down. Russel Westbrook doesn't look legit to me. Lebron certainly not. However, since they are all involved then its A level playing field. The ones getting screwed are the past greats.
Lebron is always on about how he spends A million dollars on the most advanced training techniques to keep his body healthy. That is largely A distraction from the TRT. He does in fact work very hard but that is no doubt facilitated by the quick recovery and Youth extension provided by TRT.

The difference with the NBA is your drug use wont harm other players. You are not Punching or tackling folks. So I dont think they see a need to address it.

[Lakers Legend#32]

At that point there will be no denying Bron's GOAT status.

[Spurs m8]

No one cares about a stat padders longevity stats

[3ba11]

.
PPG PLAYOFFS



1) Jordan...... 33.5


2) Iverson..... 29.7
3) West......... 29.1
4) Lebron...... 28.9
5) Durant...... 28.8
6) Barry......... 27.3
7) Elgin......... 27.0
8) Gervin...... 26.5
9 Curry......... 26.0
10) Hakem... 25.9



CLUTCH - Playoff shots in last 5 minutes, within 5 points, since 2001



134-323 for Lebron.. 41.4%
108 games.. 3.0 attempts per game

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&match=play&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&is_playoffs=Y&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=5&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-5&margin_max=5&player_id=jamesle01&order_by=date_game



Jordan 1997 Playoffs (https://www.nba.com/stats/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals): 20-39.. 51.3% (11 games)
Jordan 1998 Playoffs (https://www.nba.com/stats/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals): 22-50.. 44.0% (14 games)

42-89 for MJ.. 47.2%
25 games.. 3.6 attempts per game


TLDR: down the stretch of tight games (last 5 minutes within 5 points), Lebron shot 41% on 3.0 attempts per game for his playoff career (04-19'), compared 47% on 3.6 attempts for old MJ in 97' and 98'.. So MJ shot much better in the clutch with far more attempts (20% bigger clutch load/attempts).

[ELITEpower23]

anyone else find it odd that Alex Ovechkin is still on a 50 goal per season type pace when hes about to break gretzkys all time goal record

and gretzky set his record getting 9 goals in his last season


https://novacapsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/nhl.com_-2.jpg



Alex is in his 17th season and will need about 299.2 more games to catch Gretzky (based on my metrics) meaning he will need to play 4 more seasons of 75 games per season, scoring at his previous 5-year Goals per game average of 1.7 (and accounting for needing 10% more games due to fatigue/old age). Basically no, he will not catch Gretzky. Thanks for playing.

[Nike D'Antoni]

Right now

Kareem 38387
Lebron 35445

The difference is 2942.


2942/23 ppg = 123 games

I made wrong calculation in other thread when I said 3 years.

[Axe]

Right now

Kareem 38387
Lebron 35445

The difference is 2942.


2942/23 ppg = 123 games

I made wrong calculation in other thread when I said 3 years.
Does this include playoff games, darling?

[GimmeThat]

Blacks have it too good nowadays

[TheGoatest]

Alex is in his 17th season and will need about 299.2 more games to catch Gretzky (based on my metrics) meaning he will need to play 4 more seasons of 75 games per season, scoring at his previous 5-year Goals per game average of 1.7 (and accounting for needing 10% more games due to fatigue/old age). Basically no, he will not catch Gretzky. Thanks for playing.

Don't hockey players play well into their 40s?

[LeCola]

Kareem played his first NBA game when he is 22 years 185 days old.

Lebron did it when he is 18 years 303 days old.

Also, Lebron plays in an era that medicine is much more advanced. Players can recover from ACL, achilles injures well.

What would happen if Lebron drafted in 69 when he is 22 years old and Kareem in 2003 when he is 18 years old?

I guess:

Kareem scores 45,000 points
Lebron scores 20,000 points

[csh19792001]

Kareem played his first NBA game when he is 22 years 185 days old.

Lebron did it when he is 18 years 303 days old.

Also, Lebron plays in an era that medicine is much more advanced. Players can recover from ACL, achilles injures well.

What would happen if Lebron drafted in 69 when he is 22 years old and Kareem in 2003 when he is 18 years old?

I guess:

Kareem scores 45,000 points
Lebron scores 20,000 points

What Would Wilt and Kareem's Stats/Records Look Like Out of HS?

LeBron James, as we all know, played ages 19-22, right out of high school. During those years, he racked up 8,439 points, 2,102 rebounds, and 2,033 assists.

Players were not able to be drafted out of high school until a 1971 Supreme Court Case changed that law.

Being very, very conservative, let's say Wilt averaged 30/20/2 from ages 19-22. (He averaged 37/27/2.3 his Rookie Year).

--He'd have ~41,000 points, ~30,000 rebounds, and ~5,000 assists in his career. And, he stopped scoring the second half of his career!!

Kareem came up during his age 22 season after playing 3 years in college. Give him his ages 19-21 seasons, very conservatively averaging 25 ppg, 12 rpg, and 3 apg. (He averaged 28.8/14.5/4.1 his Rookie Year).

--He'd have ~44,000 points, ~20,000 rebounds, and ~6,400 assists.

And that's just in the regular season. Forget about playoffs totals and records.

How would this change how we rank these players? How would it change their career records and legacies?

[LeCola]

What Would Wilt and Kareem's Stats/Records Look Like Out of HS?

LeBron James, as we all know, played ages 19-22, right out of high school. During those years, he racked up 8,439 points, 2,102 rebounds, and 2,033 assists.

Players were not able to be drafted out of high school until a 1971 Supreme Court Case changed that law.

Being very, very conservative, let's say Wilt averaged 30/20/2 from ages 19-22. (He averaged 37/27/2.3 his Rookie Year).

--He'd have ~41,000 points, ~30,000 rebounds, and ~5,000 assists in his career. And, he stopped scoring the second half of his career!!

Kareem came up during his age 22 season after playing 3 years in college. Give him his ages 19-21 seasons, very conservatively averaging 25 ppg, 12 rpg, and 3 apg. (He averaged 28.8/14.5/4.1 his Rookie Year).

--He'd have ~44,000 points, ~20,000 rebounds, and ~6,400 assists.

And that's just in the regular season. Forget about playoffs totals and records.

How would this change how we rank these players? How would it change their career records and legacies?

Those are about the age 18-21.

I totally agree those.

Also, we should also think about the medicine and training is more advanced in this era.

Players could recover much better from injuries or they could spend milion dollars for their bodies.

Those players also could age much better in this era.

What would happen if Bird played in this era?

How many points he would score if

1- He is drafted when he is 18 years old
2- He recovers well from injuries
3- Spends millions of dollars for his body every year

?

[csh19792001]

Those are about the age 18-21.

I totally agree those.

Also, we should also think about the medicine and training is more advanced in this era.

Players could recover much better from injuries or they could spend milion dollars for their bodies.

Those players also could age much better in this era.

What would happen if Bird played in this era?

How many points he would score if

1- He is drafted when he is 18 years old
2- He recovers well from injuries
3- Spends millions of dollars for his body every year

?

Bird would play, fully healthy, till 38, instead of 33 (his back was ruined by 1988-1989).

[Lakers Legend#32]

Kneel Before Bron, Bitches.

[ELITEpower23]

Don't hockey players play well into their 40s?

True, but I also gave him five prime years of production at 75 games per season. Alex is a beast but that's pushing it. Gretzky's main accomplishment was his passing/assists.

[TheGoatest]

Back on track.

2917 to go. :banana:

[Spurs m8]

The funniest part of this would be the ONE single scoring title :roll::roll::roll:

This guy makes a mockery of the league and has to demand his damn respect

Wait til he gets the record through longevity and still no one respects his :roll:

[Axe]

Road to 5000 as well.

[8Ball]

The funniest part of this would be the ONE single scoring title :roll::roll::roll:

This guy makes a mockery of the league and has to demand his damn respect

Wait til he gets the record through longevity and still no one respects his :roll:

The one scoring title that's the most important one of them all.


Shaq said passing Kareem in all time points would put Bron at number 1 for him.


Truth.

[Baller789]

The one scoring title that's the most important one of them all.


Shaq said passing Kareem in all time points would put Bron at number 1 for him.


Truth.

Shaq also works for a network with an agenda.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Alex is in his 17th season and will need about 299.2 more games to catch Gretzky (based on my metrics) meaning he will need to play 4 more seasons of 75 games per season, scoring at his previous 5-year Goals per game average of 1.7 (and accounting for needing 10% more games due to fatigue/old age). Basically no, he will not catch Gretzky. Thanks for playing.

he has 9 goals in 8 games so far this year

hes gonna easily score 50 goals this year and then hes at around 780 goals by age 37

so ages 38, 39, 40 he just needs to average 40 goals to catch gretzkys 894. and thats assuming he retires at 40. Jagr played till age 45.

if he plays till 41 he just needs to average 28 goals

if he plays till 42 he just needs to average 22 goals

its more than possible especially with todays nutrition

[1987_Lakers]

he has 9 goals in 8 games so far this year

hes gonna easily score 50 goals this year and then hes at around 780 goals by age 37

so ages 38, 39, 40 he just needs to average 40 goals to catch gretzkys 894. and thats assuming he retires at 40. Jagr played till age 45.

if he plays till 41 he just needs to average 28 goals

if he plays till 42 he just needs to average 22 goals

its more than possible especially with todays nutrition

Shame Kobe was pretty much a bum at age 35 despite having modern day nutrition.

[ELITEpower23]

Back on track.

2917 to go. :banana:

:rockon:

[Baller789]

He'll probably take the record for most points ever, yet he still won't be considered as the GOAT by the majority. :cry:

[Axe]

He'll probably take the record for most points ever, yet he still won't be considered as the GOAT by the majority. :cry:
You are unhinged

[Baller789]

You are unhinged

You keep seeking my attention I see. :lol

[8Ball]

Shaq also works for a network with an agenda.

All time leading scorer is worth more than 10 scoring titles.

All the players agree.

[Wally450]

sorry i was never linked to a steroid clinic. only barry bonds and lebron james were out of those 3 names you mentioned

When?

[Kobe_Bryant]

Shame Kobe was pretty much a bum at age 35 despite having modern day nutrition.



that's just silly Steve wheels corporation/pipnrodman type lazy trolling.


grrrrr don't you know I had an Achilles injury!!!!!!!!! :lol

[Kobe_Bryant]

When?

2013 and 2015

[1987_Lakers]

that's just silly Steve wheels corporation/pipnrodman type lazy trolling.


grrrrr don't you know I had an Achilles injury!!!!!!!!! :lol

So did Durant and he looks fine.

[Kobe_Bryant]

So did Durant and he looks fine.

1. right leg Achilles injuries don't really inhibit a left legged jumper. I tore my left Achilles.

2. 7 footer with not too much lift on his shots. mine had a ton

3. much younger than I was

4. didn't come back and break his leg/rip his shoulder right away