Kobe Bryant Athleticism [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

eliteballer

10-23-2021, 08:28 PM

The purpose of this thread is to display Kobe's athleticism. Kobe is one of the best athletes in NBA History.

Don't judge Kobe's athleticism by what he was in his late 20's, his knees were already shot by then. He had knee surgeries in the summers of 2003, 2006, and 2010.

Tim Grover talks about it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG6ZU-Azttc

Keep in mind, Kobe played in an era where players were bulked up due to physicality and pace of the game. If he played today or in the 80s he’d be a lot leaner, and even more explosive and bouncy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvWy9liwC7U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-tXvMriU0Y

eliteballer

10-23-2021, 08:28 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCCwLFa9Q64

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtn5qhR9cvU

eliteballer

10-23-2021, 08:29 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IpbeXgtci4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pIgA5o_6po

eliteballer

10-23-2021, 08:31 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZx_X0nElmU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6xRutPgQPs

ELITEpower23

10-23-2021, 08:32 PM

Not bad for a top 15 player

Nice dunks 15be :applause:

eliteballer

10-23-2021, 08:32 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Xcc-2UWTM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzsvbheXscg

eliteballer

10-23-2021, 08:33 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCrvCbh26K8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Grq0ddWsik

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9AAx3U95GE

eliteballer

10-23-2021, 08:34 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUeeObGTpc4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcruBdBKiI8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3d7tjtnD1M

eliteballer

10-23-2021, 08:35 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z16iM-NUjS4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn0H6ptzWs4

Round Mound

10-23-2021, 08:35 PM

What was Kobe's vertical leap?

eliteballer

10-23-2021, 08:35 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ9iGONKsUg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9rplgdZ3yQ

eliteballer

10-23-2021, 08:36 PM

More later.

TAZORAC

10-23-2021, 09:35 PM

Kobe had average althetism for a 2 guard post 1992...his skills is what made the difference.

Kobe wasnt more athletic then Devin Booker is today

HBK_Kliq_2

10-23-2021, 09:49 PM

It was great from 2000-2003 but nothing special during his 09/10 rings

Kobe_Bryant

10-23-2021, 09:50 PM

I had great athleticism ....at times

the injuries and surgeries were so constant and lingering that I would have moments were I could do windmills and hanging layups and other moments were I could barely get my head to the bottom of the net

my athletic prime was 2001 to 2003. before that I was too skinny and weak. after that I was hobbled with knee injuries that turned me into a pump fake/footwork master. I had some flashes of my old self in 2005 vs Dwight and on nash in 06. then again in 2013 with a few poster dunks. but other than that I dominated my entire prime with little or no athleticism.. I won my 2010 title basically on one leg

TAZORAC

10-24-2021, 01:17 AM

It was great from 2000-2003 but nothing special during his 09/10 rings

His footspeed, vertical, agility was never "great"...it was good though.

eliteballer

10-24-2021, 09:51 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYztJ8fb9Nw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DOfG8qw2nc

eliteballer

10-24-2021, 09:52 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU_vD7t12mk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLAfjaqHs1E

eliteballer

10-24-2021, 09:54 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhABfAantnY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpEqOFyhpy4

eliteballer

10-24-2021, 09:55 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34ziNwOZz3M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebyZPftASdI

eliteballer

10-24-2021, 09:56 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9znpuVjpfJA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYCChbTsxzk

eliteballer

10-24-2021, 09:58 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIK0haszK0o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akMiX_FKCdQ

eliteballer

10-24-2021, 09:59 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOCk3N4_C3w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M3o2FBz8TU

eliteballer

10-24-2021, 10:00 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjoWD1nLGlo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUOUSGGkoP8

eliteballer

10-24-2021, 10:01 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts5OYRdOg48

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfe01X-exhI

eliteballer

10-24-2021, 10:04 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV2aUcg_bl0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwrNxDLqveE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P-Sw9RPllA

eliteballer

10-24-2021, 10:06 PM

https://i.insider.com/5453a67b6bb3f74231c62483?width=615

eliteballer

10-24-2021, 10:08 PM

More later.

Indian guy

10-24-2021, 11:06 PM

The only SGs I would unequivocally consider better athletes than Kobe are MJ and maybe Wade. That's it.

eliteballer

10-24-2021, 11:20 PM

Wade was juiced up, and Jordan just has bigger hands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlLOc_xRb_c

Pip' N Rodman

10-25-2021, 12:10 AM

eliteballer what was Kobe doing in Germany?

eliteballer

10-25-2021, 02:15 AM

eliteballer what was Kobe doing in Germany?

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/320107.php

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2609914/

https://orthoinfo.aaos.org/en/treatment/platelet-rich-plasma-prp/

https://www.hss.edu/condition-list_prp-injections.asp

https://sports.yahoo.com/stephen-curry-had-platelet-rich-plasma-treatment-on-his-right-knee-182950035.html?y20=1

https://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/stephen-curry-golden-state-warriors-what-is-platelet-rich-plasma-therapy-050416

https://www.si.com/nba/2016/05/04/stephen-curry-golden-state-warriors-knee-injury-platelet-rich-plasma-treatment

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/7040472/kobe-bryant-knee-was-treated-former-papal-doctor-peter-wehling

eliteballer

10-25-2021, 07:55 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPcJmGkQc0Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHB5oRRTeeA

eliteballer

10-25-2021, 08:07 PM

Kobe needed zero time to "gather" for his jumps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSpW0ELNw_0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAD8NEDxrxQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt4liMwlS6Y

eliteballer

10-25-2021, 08:08 PM

Kobe needed zero time to "gather" for his jumps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN8h_LiEzIA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnwxddaX3jg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV2KY3RJaCI

eliteballer

10-25-2021, 09:39 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29LWlJ1tEqM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Suxm7LUTunU

eliteballer

10-25-2021, 09:42 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ll_LewZ8nA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VbcBkfokiI

eliteballer

10-27-2021, 01:38 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzzwPOYdGjA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcCCYlM_LDY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPVrSD-ZOec

eliteballer

10-27-2021, 01:40 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aILRQCWk5UQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEyiRrKJfJw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxf-4WTc3Jw

eliteballer

10-27-2021, 01:41 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B82sLF-YlE8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmNwDEHD7tU

eliteballer

10-27-2021, 01:42 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovM7wRgJjYI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nklogxI-vEU

GimmeThat

10-27-2021, 01:48 AM

he was athletic in the way George Mikan was

bizil

10-27-2021, 03:57 PM

Bottom line is Mamba FOR DAMN SURE qualified as a freak athlete. All u gotta do is see the shit he pulled of in games. And he won a slam dunk contest. His catalog of freak athlete shit is in that top 6-7 area for sure. I'm talking about THE AMOUNT of freak athlete shit he did in games. For me, the Mt. Rushmore dunkers are Vince, Nique, MJ, and Doc. Because of their overall impact in terms of in game catalog and dunk contests. After these four, Kobe is in that next group.

Gerald Green had EPIC athletic ability! But it doesn't translate into dominance IN GAMES! Even in the case of an All Star like Lavine, his freak athletic aura was about the Dunk Contest. In the games, he doesn't have that vast catalog of freak athlete plays. That's why when it comes to SG's and SF's, MJ, Vince, Doc, David Thompson, Nique, Kobe, Drexler, Wade, and T Mac are unique.

Because they could actually DOMINATE GAMES with their freak athletic ability!! All were alpha dog level scorers who knew how to use their freak athletic ability to dominate. It's easier for PF's and C's because they are usually closer to the hoop. And were bigger physical specimens. And for nasty baseline shit, Mamba doesn't take a backseat to ANYBODY!!

Elosha

10-27-2021, 10:56 PM

eliteballer

11-02-2021, 12:58 PM

Indeed.

GrayGoat

11-02-2021, 01:29 PM

Kobe’s athleticism seemed to spike in a huge way after trips to Germany. Fascinating.

eliteballer

11-02-2021, 02:23 PM

Kobe’s athleticism seemed to spike in a huge way after trips to Germany. Fascinating.

LeRoids career is going to go down as a sham and a fraud and there’s nothing you can do about it:lol

eliteballer

11-03-2021, 12:09 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KdAjxK0-j0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHhVT2E6_pk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EyTG_vOhgQ

FultzNationRISE

11-03-2021, 12:11 AM

OP wants to give Lebron HEAD

ImKobe

11-03-2021, 01:28 AM

Kobe’s athleticism seemed to spike in a huge way after trips to Germany. Fascinating.

Not it didn't. He looked better in 2012-13 because he lost 20 pounds in the off-season so he had more lift.

OP wants to give Lebron HEAD

Wouldn't you?

Axe

11-03-2021, 01:29 AM

Kobe’s athleticism seemed to spike in a huge way after trips to Germany. Fascinating.
Interesting. Is it similar to the welfarefan whenever he's smoking some pots of crack rock? :milton

clipps

11-03-2021, 03:07 AM

The only SGs I would unequivocally consider better athletes than Kobe are MJ and maybe Wade. That's it.

Vince Carter you ****ing retard.

eliteballer

11-03-2021, 12:10 PM

Vince Carter you ****ing retard.

No, Vince just has extremely long arms that make it look like he’s jumper higher than he is. Kobe was quicker more agile, faster leaper, more flexible, more coordinated etc.

Phoenix

11-03-2021, 12:18 PM

No, Vince just has extremely long arms that make it look like he’s jumper higher than he is. Kobe was quicker more agile, faster leaper, more flexible, more coordinated etc.

Vince had a 43 inch vertical PLUS long arms. The rest of what you say regarding Kobe's athletic advantages is correct, but Vince's jumping height wasn't merely an illusion due to his arms. That would actually better apply to Wade, whose vertical wasn't anything special (36 inches) but had really long arms ( also why he was a great shotblocker for his size and position).

eliteballer

11-03-2021, 01:02 PM

Vince had a 43 inch vertical PLUS long arms. The rest of what you say regarding Kobe's athletic advantages is correct, but Vince's jumping height wasn't merely an illusion due to his arms. That would actually better apply to Wade, whose vertical wasn't anything special (36 inches) but had really long arms ( also why he was a great shotblocker for his size and position).
No it’s true, look at his head and not his arms he does not consistently jump higher in game than Jordan or Kobe

Phoenix

11-03-2021, 01:08 PM

No it’s true, look at his head and not his arms he does not consistently jump higher in game than Jordan or Kobe

It's true that Vince has a 43 inch vertical, and 'looks' like a 6'6 guard with that level of vertical. Not sure what there is to argue about when this is what he was measured at. Kobe's vertical was measured at 38. What you're saying is Vince maybe didn't always max out in-game on his vertical jumps, but there's enough instances with his head at rim level that it's not just because 'his arms are long' making it look like he jumps higher. Both Vince and Kobe have a wingspan of 6'11, btw.

eliteballer

11-03-2021, 01:59 PM

It's true that Vince has a 43 inch vertical, and 'looks' like a 6'6 guard with that level of vertical. Not sure what there is to argue about when this is what he was measured at. Kobe's vertical was measured at 38. What you're saying is Vince maybe didn't always max out in-game on his vertical jumps, but there's enough instances with his head at rim level that it's not just because 'his arms are long' making it look like he jumps higher. Both Vince and Kobe have a wingspan of 6'11, btw.

No, Kobe’s vertical was never measured at 38, those are made up online numbers that someone made and everyone ran with it. Vince’s wingspan is definitely much longer than Kobe and jordan, look at his head when he jumps not his arms

Phoenix

11-03-2021, 02:21 PM

No, Kobe’s vertical was never measured at 38, those are made up online numbers that someone made and everyone ran with it. Vince’s wingspan is definitely much longer than Kobe and jordan, look at his head when he jumps not his arm

Those numbers I googled but....if they're wrong then they're wrong even though I saw them on multiple sites.. You're not providing anything other that 'those numbers are made-up', easy enough to say since they don't support your position. Until you can provide, quite literally, any evidence that those numbers are 'made up' there's nothing to talk about.

But, your Kobe fanboysim has you on some bullshit at the moment. It's generally acknowledged that both MJ and Vince jumped higher than Kobe without some sort of 'his arms are longer' optical illusion.

8Ball

11-03-2021, 02:26 PM

Kobe had elite athleticism.

Anyone arguing otherwise is agenda driven.

eliteballer

11-03-2021, 02:35 PM

Those numbers I googled but....if they're wrong then they're wrong even though I saw them on multiple sites.. You're not providing anything other that 'those numbers are made-up', easy enough to say since they don't support your position. Until you can provide, quite literally, any evidence that those numbers are 'made up' there's nothing to talk about.

But, your Kobe fanboysim has you on some bullshit at the moment. It's generally acknowledged that both MJ and Vince jumped higher than Kobe without some sort of 'his arms are longer' optical illusion.

Vince does have longer arms…you can look his head when he jumps and he doesn’t consistently get his head higher than them….If you can find one real, official source showing all these guys measured peak verticals between the ages of 20-27 feel free to do it. I’ll wait…

Phoenix

11-03-2021, 02:40 PM

Vince does have longer arms…you can look his head when he jumps and he doesn’t consistently get his head higher than them….If you can find one real, official source showing all these guys measured peak verticals between the ages of 20-27 feel free to do it. I’ll wait…

You're the one who initially made the case that Vince's jumping is an illusion due to longer arms. I provided numbers.... but then you expect me to further dig around to prove something to you when your retort is 'those numbers are made up'. You can keep waiting. The burden of proof lies on you to provide 'official sources' for their measured stats, until then we'll stick with what I've provided. 'Your numbers are wrong' without providing the 'right' numbers is a non-argument.

eliteballer

11-03-2021, 03:15 PM

You're the one who initially made the case that Vince's jumping is an illusion due to longer arms. I provided numbers.... but then you expect me to further dig around to prove something to you when your retort is 'those numbers are made up'. You can keep waiting. The burden of proof lies on you to provide 'official sources' for their measured stats, until then we'll stick with what I've provided. 'Your numbers are wrong' without providing the 'right' numbers is a non-argument.

No, you have not provided real documented measured verticals for Kobe or Jordan, you have only provided Vince’s combine running vertical of 43 inches. the burden of proof is on YOU to provide documentation and sources on what you are claiming are real numbers. You can’t make shit up and then put the burden of proof on others who ask for evidence:roll:

Phoenix

11-03-2021, 03:32 PM

No, you have not provided real documented measured verticals for Kobe or Jordan, you have only provided Vince’s combine running vertical of 43 inches. the burden of proof is on YOU to provide documentation and sources on what you are claiming are real numbers. You can’t make shit up and then put the burden of proof on others who ask for evidence:roll:

No. I provided numbers. YOU dispute the numbers as made-up, so YOU in turn provide the real numbers because YOU are the one who is disputing the authenticity of those numbers. As far as I'm concerned the numbers are real and you're the one making shit up saying they're not. See how that works? You don't get to say 'those numbers are fake!!!' and then think you have the high ground to send me off on some wild goose chase to find numbers that conform to your seal of approval. You can fukk all the way off with that bullshit.

You: 'Vince's arms are longer and gives the illusion of jumping higher'

Me: *google search and using numbers off multiple sites* Kobe's vertical is 38, Vince is 43 and their arm length is the same

You: Those numbers are fake, bring me real evidence

Ummmm, what? Nah, that's not how this shit works.

eliteballer

11-03-2021, 03:39 PM

No. I provided numbers. YOU dispute the numbers as made-up, so YOU in turn provide the real numbers because YOU are the one who is disputing the authenticity of those numbers. As far as I'm concerned the numbers are real and you're the one making shit up saying they're not. See how that works? You don't get to say 'those numbers are fake!!!' and then think you have the high ground to send me off on some wild goose chase to find numbers that conform to your seal of approval. You can fukk all the way off with that bullshit.

You: 'Vince's arms are longer and gives the illusion of jumping higher'

Me: *google search and using numbers off multiple sites* Kobe's vertical is 38, Vince is 43 and their arm length is the same

You: Those numbers are fake, bring me real evidence

Ummmm, what? Nah, that's not how this shit works.

No, you are the one making the claim, so the burden of proof is on YOU to provide evidence. If you’re stupid enough to believe made up numbers are real Im not surprised your stupid enough to believe the burden of proof is not on the party making the claim without providing any evidence.

Phoenix

11-03-2021, 03:54 PM

No, you are the one making the claim, so the burden of proof is on YOU to provide evidence. If you’re stupid enough to believe made up numbers are real Im not surprised your stupid enough to believe the burden of proof is not on the party making the claim without providing any evidence.

Nah you're full of shit, because the original claim was Vince's arms were longer. No numbers whatsoever, just a claim that's supposed to be take as 'proof' because you said it, so it must be true. Just like your claim that the numbers I provide via my research are made up. So nothing you've said is backed up by anything, but the proof is on someone else to continue researching something because you reject the numbers presented while providing none of your own? Yeah..... you're a clown and I'll stick with you can fukk all the way off with that, dumbass. If there were numbers to the contrary of what I've said, you would have retrieved them already to shut this discussion down. You have nothing.

eliteballer

11-03-2021, 03:58 PM

Nah you're full of shit, because the original claim was Vince's arms were longer. No numbers whatsoever, just a claim that's supposed to be take as 'proof' because you said it, so it must be true. Just like your claim that the numbers I provide via research are made up. So nothing you've said is backed up by anything, but the proof is on someone else to continue researching something because you reject the numbers presented while providing none of your own. Yeah..... you're a clown and I'll stick with you can fukk all the way off with that, dumbass. If there were numbers to the contrary of what I've said, you would have retrieved them already to shut this discussion down. But you haven't, so you have nothing but trying to pass the buck.

So you posted made up numbers, got called out and can’t admit you were a dummy for using made up numbers and can’t provide evidence. Got it.

Phoenix

11-03-2021, 04:10 PM

So you posted made up numbers, got called out and can’t admit you were a dummy for using made up numbers and can’t provide evidence. Got it.

The first problem is you act like you saying 'those numbers are fake' is the only argument you need. It isn't. If I said to you Kobe averaged 15ppg for his career, you'd say the numbers are fake or wrong. You'd then go on basketball-reference and then say no, Kobe's careers PPG is 25ppg or whatever. That's 100% what you would do, take what you claim as erroneous info and correct it by providing the real numbers, if they are contrary to what has been presented. We do it on this site every day. You do it, because I've seen you do it. You're now playing dumb, or perhaps not playing.

But in this context, your only argument is claiming that the numbers are wrong........and this is supposed to be factual. Yet again, you could have shut the conversation down posts ago by providing the 'right' numbers, as you would have done in the above PPG example. But you haven't, and until such time as you do, the conclusion to reach is that those numbers are real, and you have no counter except to claim they're fake without anything else backing it up and try passing the buck onto me in an endless 'the burden is on you' loop. Got it.

eliteballer

11-03-2021, 04:12 PM

The first problem is you act like you saying 'those numbers are fake' is the only argument you need. It isn't. If I said to you Kobe averaged 15ppg for his career, you'd say the numbers are fake or wrong. You'd then go on basketball-reference and then say no, Kobe's careers PPG is 25ppg or whatever. That's 100% what you would do, take what you see as erroneous info and correct it by providing the real numbers. We do it on this site every day. You do it, because I've seen you do it.

But in this context, your only argument is claiming that the numbers are wrong........and this is supposed to be factual. Yet again, you could have shut the conversation down posts ago by providing the 'right' numbers, as you would have done in the above PPG example. But you haven't, and until such time as you do, the conclusion to reach is that those numbers are real, and you have no counter except to claim they're fake without anything else backing it up and try passing the buck onto me in an endless 'the burden is on you' loop. Got it.
You can’t provide proof of your made up numbers, got it.

Phoenix

11-03-2021, 04:13 PM

You can’t provide proof of your made up numbers, got it.

You can't provide proof that the numbers aren't made up, got it.

eliteballer

11-03-2021, 05:50 PM

You can't provide proof that the numbers aren't made up, got it.

Nice logical fallacy:roll:

Phoenix

11-03-2021, 06:15 PM

Nice logical fallacy:roll:

You: Vince's arms are longer..... because I said so

Me: *researches net* Vince and Kobe both had 6'11 wingspans, Vince 43" vert, Kobe 38"

You: No those numbers are made up........ because I said so.

Me: Ok well you're the one claiming the numbers I looked up are wrong

You: Find me numbers to retort my original claim that was based on nothing

Flawless logic jackass :roll:

eliteballer

11-08-2021, 08:30 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS3iJ20Q4bg

eliteballer

11-12-2021, 01:10 AM

19 year old Kobe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x3cOWs0bRM

DevBooker'sMask

11-12-2021, 01:14 AM

Kobe would dunK on Carter at will

eliteballer

11-15-2021, 08:16 PM

Would've been sweet if he put this one down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxl00yxvq6I

eliteballer

11-15-2021, 10:30 PM

A few years back, the Lakers coaching staff concluded Bryant and Jordan were much alike, almost eerie, in fact, when it came to the alpha male qualities of their competitive natures.

Kobe and Michael were ruthless when it came to winning, everyone agreed.

And their skills were similar.

Except Michael's hands were larger.

The major difference between the two came with college experience. Jordan had played in a basketball system for Dean Smith at North Carolina, thus he was better prepared to play within a team concept.

Winter says they're both very much alike:

"They both display tremendous reaction, quickness and jumping ability. Both have a good shooting touch.

https://www.espn.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/3183/tex-winter-compares-kobe-bryant-and-michael-jordan

eliteballer

12-07-2021, 09:28 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY3dJ3ks424

Axe

12-07-2021, 09:39 PM

...

eliteballer

12-18-2021, 01:08 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq-CyCH2mDg

eliteballer

12-25-2021, 04:15 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD5G2vYWksQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opk2lBc0tIg

theballerFKA Ace

12-25-2021, 04:35 PM

Kobe wasnt more athletic then Devin Booker is today

Kobe was definitely more athletic than Booker. There's no statistics for explosiveness but Kobe had that going for him, Booker does not. Grayson Allen has a much better vertical leap than a prime Russell Westbrook but no one would ever say Grayson Allen is much more athletic than a prime Westbrook. Plus Kobe had elite length. A good wingspan with high set shoulders. If Lebron James and Kobe went back to back and lifted up their hands Kobe's and Lebron's hand would have about the same reach even though Lebron is 2-3" taller. Kobe's standing reach is a whopping 4" higher than Bookers

eliteballer

02-23-2022, 09:17 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6L3fqXxVYs

Full Court

02-23-2022, 09:35 PM

Kobe was pretty athletic. Not quite Ja Morant athletic, but still not bad.

eliteballer

03-15-2022, 08:27 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syaXep_G9Ig

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AVIBgzoX9M

Cold soul

03-15-2022, 08:35 PM

Kobe was pretty athletic. Not quite Ja Morant athletic, but still not bad.

Kobe was more athletic than Ja Morant.

3ba11

03-15-2022, 08:35 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41Jzijk7Hi4&t=02m51s

Cold soul

03-15-2022, 08:37 PM

Kobe athleticism was underrated no he wasn't top tier freak athlete like MJ, Lebron, Wilt, and Shaq were but he was in that 2nd tier. :pimp:

eliteballer

05-18-2022, 12:49 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH4YnSCEXX0

eliteballer

06-12-2022, 09:41 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XPlmN3JzMA

Full Court

06-12-2022, 10:56 PM

Kobe was more athletic than Ja Morant.

In what way?

eliteballer

06-13-2022, 01:23 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkF3ILTlRrs

eliteballer

06-13-2022, 01:30 AM

The play at 3:10 in the above video is supreme basketball athleticism coming from a 6-6 player. The quickness, handling, change of direction and floating in the air..

Iverson3

06-13-2022, 04:26 PM

The play at 3:10 in the above video is supreme basketball athleticism coming from a 6-6 player. The quickness, handling, change of direction and floating in the air..

Kobe is 6'4.75" without shoes

eliteballer

06-13-2022, 07:23 PM

I'm referencing NBA heights, which are in shoes dummy.

GrayGoat

06-13-2022, 07:25 PM

Kobe didn’t take steroids. 100% Natty

eliteballer

06-16-2022, 12:49 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaTd_F2yIrU

plowking

06-16-2022, 05:05 AM

Kobe was on steroids.

eliteballer

06-17-2022, 12:32 AM

Kobe was on steroids.

LeRoid fans meltdown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmB6YCUzgMU

sportjames23

06-17-2022, 01:24 AM

Kobe had average althetism for a 2 guard post 1992...his skills is what made the difference.

Kobe wasnt more athletic then Devin Booker is today

:facepalm

eliteballer

06-23-2022, 11:02 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaTd_F2yIrU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpI0tk9G2Jc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opk2lBc0tIg

Axe

06-24-2022, 04:18 PM

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQWmIS2Qj3pdASkGnrPzyrNg9y8BlFFr 2fBpw&usqp=CAU

eliteballer

07-07-2022, 11:07 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCVe9A46ecs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iou1L27tyZI

Cali Syndicate

07-08-2022, 01:34 AM

eliteballer

07-08-2022, 01:41 PM

If Kobe sat around all day doing plyometrics like a Green instead of skill training and basketball conditioning he’d be jumping even higher than he did. He was throwing down monster dunks at 19.

bizil

07-08-2022, 03:50 PM

You are smoking crack IF U THINK Mamba wasn't a freak athlete. I'm talking IN THE CONFINES of the basketball court. I'm not talking about the realm of 40 yard dash. Or actual vertical. THE EYE TEST showed you Kobe was a freakish athlete BASKETALL WISE! Guys like a Gerald Green DIDN'T know how to harness their physical tools to DOMINATE! His in game dunk catalog is HELLA SHORT!

The guys who know how to DOMINATE GAMES with their freak athletic ability STANDOUT more than guys who can't. So even though Green may be faster, jump higher, and better dunker IN GENERAL than Kobe (shit u can do by yourself in a gym), he DIDN'T know how to dominate games with it!

When it comes to freakish athletes, WHAT YOU DO in game counts the most! The dunk contest shit is another realm. The guys who are DOMINANT in both realms standout big time! Kobe is one of those guys! AFTER MJ, Vince, Doc, and Nique, WHAT OTHER perimeter player made more of a mark IN THAT ASPECT than Mamba??? Playing above the rim and doing it stylishly is the hallmark of a freak athlete in the league. IN PARTICULAR in the actual game. Mamba FOR DAMN SURE is one of the first names that will pop up.

Charlie Sheen

07-08-2022, 04:54 PM

It's sad how people relate athleticism to just jumping prowess. Agility, body control, strength are all components to determine athleticism. Kobe was a jack of all trades, master of none. Didn't have the jumping ability of Gerald green but he was still the overall better athlete.

Dwyane Wade would have received the maximum grade for whatever criteria is used to measure athleticism. His existence is probably the biggest reason Kobe's athleticism is overlooked.

eliteballer

07-08-2022, 08:41 PM

Dwyane Wade would have received the maximum grade for whatever criteria is used to measure athleticism. His existence is probably the biggest reason Kobe's athleticism is overlooked.

You mean the master of HGH? Actually 2nd after LeRoid. Dat jaw growth.

https://2kgamer.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/uploads/optimized/2X/c/c0de0904d500d87f18b7bfaf19b900e092adbfe1_2_782x102 4.jpeg

eliteballer

08-05-2022, 09:23 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRAs5Ju3j7k

light

08-06-2022, 04:56 AM

light

08-06-2022, 05:08 AM

You mean the master of HGH? Actually 2nd after LeRoid. Dat jaw growth.

George Karl:

"But we've still got a drug issue, though a different one than thirty years ago. I'm talking about performance-enhancing drugs – like steroids, human growth hormone, and so on. It's obvious that some of our players are doping. How are some guys getting older—yet thinner and fitter? How are they recovering from injuries so fast? Why the hell are they going to Germany in the off-season? I doubt it's for the sauerkraut."

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BlondYoungAzurevase-size_restricted.gif

Johnny32

08-06-2022, 08:54 AM

George Karl:

"But we've still got a drug issue, though a different one than thirty years ago. I'm talking about performance-enhancing drugs – like steroids, human growth hormone, and so on. It's obvious that some of our players are doping. How are some guys getting older—yet thinner and fitter? How are they recovering from injuries so fast? Why the hell are they going to Germany in the off-season? I doubt it's for the sauerkraut."

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BlondYoungAzurevase-size_restricted.gif

it's easy to slim down in the off season as you get older though. intermittent fasting and cutting carbs.

CTbasketball92

08-07-2022, 05:37 PM

Kobe was so crafty people forget about his athletic ability. Kobe has windmills in the halfcourt off one step, he dunked on D Howard, Yao Ming, Tim Duncan, Ben Wallace...he had a very quick first step, though it was slower than DWade or MJ's. But Kobe was unique in that he was ridiculously flexible and coordinated and that enabled him to squeeze through small gaps and maneuver aroudn people with his handle better than pretty much everyone besides Allen Iverson and MJ. He had elite kinesthesia, and his feet were very flexible and his range of motion was amazing. That's where you get all those dunks from weird angles, all those crossovers into spins into shots, etc. Kobe had that Kyrie-level mobility where things never looked awkward and they looked like ballerinas. That's the aesthetic quality they shared, and it blended with their skillsets.

But Kobe was 6'5" with a 40-inch vertical and great stamina/toughness/durability

theballerFKA Ace

08-07-2022, 05:52 PM

Kobe was athletic but he was never considered super athletic. His athleticism was not mentioned as a strength in his scouting report coming out of high school. He was never referred to as the fastest player in the league. Never referred to as the highest jumper. He had great feet and good timing on his jumps. His #1 asset was his determination.

Kobe was crazy athletic. He had elite standing reach too just like Jordan and VC. Jordan and VC did have a slightly higher one footed vert and bigger hands which gave them advantages over Kobe. It's possible LeBron might have had a better one footed vert than Jordan but for his height he did not have the elite standing reach like Kobe and Jordan who's standing reach is within 1" of Lebron despite being nearly 3" shorter.

eliteballer

12-14-2022, 03:30 AM

WhiteKyrie

12-14-2022, 11:22 AM

it's easy to slim down in the off season as you get older though. intermittent fasting and cutting carbs.
No it’s not. WTF, it’s harder to lose weight as you get older. You more naturally pack on the pounds.

eliteballer

01-14-2023, 04:10 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF7sVsEgsp4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpuswrs-Svg

eliteballer

01-28-2023, 05:44 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfgNROlaIE4

eliteballer

02-17-2023, 11:28 PM

Young Kobe with crazy explosiveness on a couple of missed dunks:

2:33

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xV7Imlux9k

3:38

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s61FrGd3Bo

Im Still Ballin

02-18-2023, 12:36 AM

Frobe was an athletic beast! He had a better overall athletic package than Vince and Tracy. Superior quickness, lateral movement, change of direction speed. He jumped similarly high, but he was a quicker leaper and, like eliteballer said, required no "wind-up."

RRR3

02-18-2023, 04:41 AM

Literally everyone knows Kobe was a great athlete besides weirdos like kenny who thinks it makes him look better if they pretend he wasn't.

eliteballer

02-23-2023, 11:31 PM

35 seconds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQQNu71esZw

eliteballer

03-20-2023, 12:01 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjn3cgS8XQw

eliteballer

03-31-2023, 09:40 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueq_Brh4Jyc

eliteballer

04-01-2023, 02:48 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfpeslGk10g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8zfak9jgs8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIGCJLMGvwE

eliteballer

06-25-2023, 07:43 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD72I6MLqao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrB11u4ZDas

eliteballer

07-04-2023, 03:25 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uyx7f4goH8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItRYhj1th5M

ShawkFactory

07-04-2023, 09:54 AM

In 100 years if aliens wanted to know what player caused the player Stan movement to blow up, I’d point them right here.

eliteballer

07-11-2023, 03:18 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbBcZfjj1_U

eliteballer

07-14-2023, 03:34 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WfvwVIZ1as

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEhFMcLzr1s

eliteballer

10-10-2023, 01:19 PM

Kobe’s skill progression as his athleticism dropped crazy. Compared how much more athletic he was
pre 2008 to say 2009 or 2010 and how just carved up teams with pure skill later on.

ShawkFactory

10-10-2023, 02:00 PM

Kobe’s skill progression as his athleticism dropped crazy. Compared how much more athletic he was
pre 2008 to say 2009 or 2010 and how just carved up teams with pure skill later on.

I assume that you’re jerking off and then posting in this thread post-nut? Or maybe pre?

tpols

10-10-2023, 02:22 PM

Kobes body control and flexibility was insane. The way he would contort his body to outmanuever defenses was next level. People tend to think athleticism is just speed, strength, and leaping ability but having cat like reflexes and agility and flexibility to navigate crowds is underrated.