Trae Young, Ja Morant and Luka Doncic

[Lebron23]

Rank these players from best to worst

[bobopenguin]

Doncic, Jo Morant, Young.

[imdaman99]

So far this season? No one's been better than Ja.

Ja
Trae
Luka

[SlickRick]

Luka
Ja
Trae

[tontoz]

Hard to say with guys this young. In his first two years Morants shooting has been pretty bad. If he becomes just an average 3 point shooter he could really be a scary player. He is the only one of the 3 with elite athleticism.

[HunterSThompson]

#1 Luka Doncic
#2 Ja Morant
#3 Lamelo Ball
#4 Tyler Herro
#5 Trae Young

[Bronbron23]

Rank these players from best to worst

Ja is my favorite but right now it's luka, trae then ja. In a year from now i think ja will be ranked above trae.

[dankok8]

Morant proved the least so far. Trae took his team to the ECF.

1. Luka
2. Trae
3. Ja

Like Bronbron23 said, I can see Ja higher in a year or two.

[PeroAntic]

Ja's biggest problem is that he has no pullup jumper. Once he develops that, he will be unstoppable.

[Airupthere]

Luka
Trae
Ja (very close 3rd)

[Mask the Embiid]

Trae
Ja
Luka

you already had them in order OP

[fsvr54]

Trae
Ja
Luka

you already had them in order OP

This

[insight]

#1 Luka Doncic
#2 Ja Morant
#3 Lamelo Ball
#4 Tyler Herro
#5 Trae Young
Low IQ Post or Trae Hater.
Putting Ball and Herro in the some category is just silly.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Low IQ Post or Trae Hater.
Putting Ball and Herro in the some category is just silly.

hes shooting 35% so far. the other guys are outperforming him sorry

the Hawks over achieved in the playoffs last year due to many other teams being injured. the Hawks are just a solid team. trae is nothing special. just a high usage

hes never been that amazing at threes tbh

[Mask the Embiid]

Low IQ Post or Trae Hater.
Putting Ball and Herro in the some category is just silly.

You are actually exposing your own low iq. Lamelo ball ceiling is much higher than trae’s now that they unbanned defense


Now herro. No, he’s a 2 not a 1 on a championship contending team.Trae is a one. They are all ahead of ja and Luka though. Ja will pass herro soon though and possibly even trae. If lamelo ever gets a jumper it’s over.. he’s already better than them all now because he actually plays defense unlike everyone else listed

[j3lademaster]

Need to revisit this thread halfway through the season. Ja Morant is playing like the best in the world right now.

[insight]

hes shooting 35% so far. the other guys are outperforming him sorry

the Hawks over achieved in the playoffs last year due to many other teams being injured. the Hawks are just a solid team. trae is nothing special. just a high usage

hes never been that amazing at threes tbh

LOW IQ POST! The Hawks had the MOST injuries of any team who made the playoffs last season. Are you really using stats from 2 games out of a 82 game season when we can look at last season PLAYOFFS stats. You are just pulling B.S out of the air because you don't like the guy. Few players in NBA history have put up the numbers Trae has in his 1st 3 seasons or during thier first time in the playoffs. Those are the facts.

[j3lademaster]

Hard to say with guys this young. In his first two years Morants shooting has been pretty bad. If he becomes just an average 3 point shooter he could really be a scary player. He is the only one of the 3 with elite athleticism.It doesn't look like he's quite there yet, but you can tell he's gotten better. He's not afraid to take them at least, and he's good enough that you have to respect him out there.

[HunterSThompson]

LOW IQ POST! The Hawks had the MOST injuries of any team who made the playoffs last season. Are you really using stats from 2 games out of a 82 game season when we can look at last season PLAYOFFS stats. You are just pulling B.S out of the air because you don't like the guy. Few players in NBA history have put up the numbers Trae has in his 1st 3 seasons or during thier first time in the playoffs. Those are the facts.

i'm sorry but the only way a guy can make up for shooting around 40% every year is if

a) hes a great defender

or

b) hes a great 3 point shooter



and trae is neither. hes small and can't stop anyone and he shoots like 30% threes.


hes good at passing but he's trash at literally every other aspect of basketball

[fsvr54]

"trash" lol

Handles, floater, floor generalship, shot creation, speed, getting to the line etc

[HunterSThompson]

"trash" lol

Handles, floater, floor generalship, shot creation, speed, getting to the line etc

i said he was a good playmaker. after that hes obsolete. name one other thing he does other than passing and layups


hes basically ben simmons without the size, rebounding, defense or athleticism


hes confident at least but that can be a bad thing since he can't shoot

[fsvr54]

i said he was a good playmaker. after that hes obsolete. name one other thing he does other than passing and layups


hes basically ben simmons without the size, rebounding, defense or athleticism

I named several things

[HunterSThompson]

I named several things


you named 2 things

Handles - ( playmaking )
floater - ( layups )
floor generalship - ( playmaking )
shot creation - ( playmaking )
speed - ( layups )
getting to the line - ( void* league took that away this year )

[fsvr54]

:kobe:

[ShawkFactory]

you named 2 things

Handles - ( playmaking )
floater - ( layups )
floor generalship - ( playmaking )
shot creation - ( playmaking )
speed - ( layups )
getting to the line - ( void* league took that away this year )

What the actual fvck :lol

[insight]

[QUOTE=Mask the Embiid;14461818]You are actually exposing your own low iq. Lamelo ball ceiling is much higher than trae’s now that they unbanned defense


Now herro. No, he’s a 2 not a 1 on a championship contending team.Trae is a one. They are all ahead of ja and Luka though. Ja will pass herro soon though and possibly even trae. If lamelo ever gets a jumper it’s over.. he’s already better than them all now because he actually plays defense unlike everyone else listed[/QUOTE

Actually you are exposing you low IQ.

1 . I never said anything about who has the highest CEILING, CAM REDDISH has a higher CEILING than TRAE, LAMELO and JA.

2. I like Lamelo his is a great young player but what you are saying is ridiculous and filled with a bunch of hyperbole.
During the last few seasons Trae Young was one the most double teamed players in the league, HOW MANY DOUBLE TEAMS does Lameo Ball see?

3. Herro is not even it the same league as JA. Herro is not even a starter Morant is a franchsie player who will recieve MAX Money.

4. Ja is off to a great start and deserves to be in the conversation. He is more athletic and exciting than Trae or Luka but Trae's basketball IQ, shooting and passing are on another level.

[Kobe_Bryant]

What the actual fvck :lol

i dunno looks like it makes sense to me. that hunter thompson guy is onto something

unless you think shot creation is just trae jacking up bricks. otherwise its playmaking like his "floor general crap"

sounds like an infomercial where the guy says "it slices it dices it shreds and blends!" when its all the same shit

[Mask the Embiid]

[QUOTE=Mask the Embiid;14461818]You are actually exposing your own low iq. Lamelo ball ceiling is much higher than trae’s now that they unbanned defense


Now herro. No, he’s a 2 not a 1 on a championship contending team.Trae is a one. They are all ahead of ja and Luka though. Ja will pass herro soon though and possibly even trae. If lamelo ever gets a jumper it’s over.. he’s already better than them all now because he actually plays defense unlike everyone else listed[/QUOTE

Actually you are exposing you low IQ.

1 . I never said anything about who has the highest CEILING, CAM REDDISH has a higher CEILING than TRAE, LAMELO and JA.

2. I like Lamelo his is a great young player but what you are saying is ridiculous and filled with a bunch of hyperbole.
During the last few seasons Trae Young was one the most double teamed players in the league, HOW MANY DOUBLE TEAMS does Lameo Ball see?

3. Herro is not even it the same league as JA. Herro is not even a starter Morant is a franchsie player who will recieve MAX Money.

4. Ja is off to a great start and deserves to be in the conversation. He is more athletic and exciting than Trae or Luka but Trae's basketball IQ, shooting and passing are on another level.

Ja is a 3rd option on a championship team Herro is a 2….Ja’s shooting will fall back to earth soon he’s not this good of a shooter….Cam will never reach his ceiling and even if he did it would still be lower than lamelo’s…People don’t double team lamelo because you can’t….he will simply pass the ball :oldlol: his iq is much much higher than Trae and Lukas :oldlol: . You can double team dummies like them, who will try to fight through the double teams. You can’t double high iqs like lamelo, Ben, Lebron,jokic ect

[insight]

i'm sorry but the only way a guy can make up for shooting around 40% every year is if

a) hes a great defender

or

b) hes a great 3 point shooter



and trae is neither. hes small and can't stop anyone and he shoots like 30% threes.


hes good at passing but he's trash at literally every other aspect of basketball

You need to come back to earth and reality. He had argurable had the most dominant performance of any player in the playoffs last season so I don't know what nonsense you are talking about. Just say you don't like the guy and how he plays the game, trying to use stats and metrics to make you point, just makes you sound foolish because the stats say the exact opposite.

STOP HATIN
https://ca.nba.com/news/nba-playoffs-2021-by-the-numbers-trae-young-lebron-james-record-books-48-points-game-1/17tlnloajzy5x1egc2wf7zddx0

[HunterSThompson]

You need to come back to earth and reality. He had argurable had the most dominant performance of any player in the playoffs last season so I don't know what nonsense you are talking about. Just say you don't like the guy and how he plays the game, trying to use stats and metrics to make you point, just makes you sound foolish because the stats say the exact opposite.

STOP HATIN
https://ca.nba.com/news/nba-playoffs-2021-by-the-numbers-trae-young-lebron-james-record-books-48-points-game-1/17tlnloajzy5x1egc2wf7zddx0




lol wut

he shot 41%fg's for the entire playoffs and 31% from 3

without those bail out free throws he basically has 21 points on 22 shots per game

thats worse than kobes post achilles rupture efficiency

[insight]

[QUOTE=insight;14461849]

Ja is a 3rd option on a championship team Herro is a 2….Ja’s shooting will fall back to earth soon he’s not this good of a shooter….Cam will never reach his ceiling and even if he did it would still be lower than lamelo’s…People don’t double team lamelo because you can’t….he will simply pass the ball :oldlol: his iq is much much higher than Trae and Lukas :oldlol: . You can double team dummies like them who will try to fights through double teams. You can’t double high iqs like lamelo, Ben, Lebron, ect

Herro doesn't EVEN START FOR HIS TEAM, HE IS AUTOMATICALLY the 6th option when you come off the BENCH. Ja is a point guard, not a shooting guard he creates shots for his teammates, Herro will NEVER BE THAT GUY.

Explain exactly how Lameolo has a HIGHER ceiling the CAM REDDISH, I'll WAIT.

Another Low IQ post. Teams have double teamed Lebron throughout his career. All the best players in the league have been double teamed.

[insight]

lol wut

he shot 41%fg's for the entire playoffs and 31% from 3

without those bail out free throws he basically has 21 points on 22 shots per game

thats worse than kobes post achilles rupture efficiency

Do you watch and understand basketball or do you just watch highlights and look at stats? I included an article so you can educate yourself further but I guess you chose not to read it.

https://ca.nba.com/news/nba-playoffs-2021-by-the-numbers-trae-young-lebron-james-record-books-48-points-game-1/17tlnloajzy5x1egc2wf7zddx0

[k0kakw0rld]

One led his team to a conference final (against all odds).

The other two are still second-round virgins.

[ClipperRevival]

Ja is something special. His peak might be 2011 Derrick Rose type MVP. Maybe higher. He's got GOAT tier athleticism with a dog mentality. He wants it every night.

Right now I have Luka, Ja, Trae but I wouldn't be surprised if he surpasses Luka. He has the potential to be a top 5 player in the world.

[Kobe_Bryant]

luka is slipping for me. he can't shoot for shit either

what's he now on the season. 40%fgs and 20% threes

[tontoz]

Luka's shot selection has always bothered me. Every time i watch him he takes 3s where i think "bad shot". He isn't a good enough shooter to take so many 3s. He should focus more on playmaking, taking fewer 3s early in the clock.

[Mask the Embiid]

Need to revisit this thread halfway through the season. Ja Morant is playing like the best in the world right now.

no lets review that shit now!


#1 Luka Doncic
#2 Ja Morant
#3 Lamelo Ball
#4 Tyler Herro
#5 Trae Young

fraud


You are actually exposing your own low iq. Lamelo ball ceiling is much higher than trae’s now that they unbanned defense


Now herro. No, he’s a 2 not a 1 on a championship contending team.Trae is a one. They are all ahead of ja and Luka though. Ja will pass herro soon though and possibly even trae. If lamelo ever gets a jumper it’s over.. he’s already better than them all now because he actually plays defense unlike everyone else listed
:applause:

[Mask the Embiid]

[QUOTE=insight;14461818]

Actually you are exposing you low IQ.

1 . I never said anything about who has the highest CEILING, CAM REDDISH has a higher CEILING than TRAE, LAMELO and JA.

2. I like Lamelo his is a great young player but what you are saying is ridiculous and filled with a bunch of hyperbole.
During the last few seasons Trae Young was one the most double teamed players in the league, HOW MANY DOUBLE TEAMS does Lameo Ball see?

3. Herro is not even it the same league as JA. Herro is not even a starter Morant is a franchsie player who will recieve MAX Money.

4. Ja is off to a great start and deserves to be in the conversation. He is more athletic and exciting than Trae or Luka but Trae's basketball IQ, shooting and passing are on another level.


[QUOTE=Mask the Embiid;14461849]

Ja is a 3rd option on a championship team Herro is a 2….Ja’s shooting will fall back to earth soon he’s not this good of a shooter….Cam will never reach his ceiling and even if he did it would still be lower than lamelo’s…People don’t double team lamelo because you can’t….he will simply pass the ball :oldlol: his iq is much much higher than Trae and Lukas :oldlol: . You can double team dummies like them, who will try to fight through the double teams. You can’t double high iqs like lamelo, Ben, Lebron,jokic ect

basketball iq off the chart again :applause:

[Mask the Embiid]

[QUOTE=Mask the Embiid;14461855]

Herro doesn't EVEN START FOR HIS TEAM, HE IS AUTOMATICALLY the 6th option when you come off the BENCH. Ja is a point guard, not a shooting guard he creates shots for his teammates, Herro will NEVER BE THAT GUY.

Explain exactly how Lameolo has a HIGHER ceiling the CAM REDDISH, I'll WAIT.

Another Low IQ post. Teams have double teamed Lebron throughout his career. All the best players in the league have been double teamed.

Higher basketball iq
better defender
better passer
more efficient
better dribbler
better scorer
better rebounder
he's younger
drafted higher
more experienced

i can keep going

[insight]

[QUOTE=insight;14461863]

Higher basketball iq
better defender
better passer
more efficient
better dribbler
better scorer
better rebounder
he's younger
drafted higher
more experienced

i can keep going

Just stop it, LeMelo is not a better defender than Reddish. He is a better playmaker and passer and sees the floor better than Cam but Cam proved he can score in the PLAYOFFS at an elite level, he has a bigger offensive bag and is a better athlete than LaMello.
Charlotte and the Hawks played a couple of weeks ago, I guess you missed it because Cam was way more efficient.
https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401360066

[ShawkFactory]

[QUOTE=Mask the Embiid;14486077]

Just stop it, LeMelo is not a better defender than Reddish. He is a better playmaker and passer and sees the floor better than Cam but Cam proved he can score in the PLAYOFFS at an elite level, he has a bigger offensive bag and is a better athlete than LaMello.
Charlotte and the Hawks played a couple of weeks ago, I guess you missed it because Cam was way more efficient.
https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401360066

What?

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

Trae is the best one, like I've been saying for months. You idiots need to start taking notes when you read my posts

[insight]

[QUOTE=insight;14486187]

What?

Small sample size but once Cam Reddish returned from injury in the Bucks series he was dominant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_2D3DXOhUw

[ShawkFactory]

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14486191]

Small sample size but once Cam Reddish returned from injury in the Bucks series he was dominant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_2D3DXOhUw

I mean he had a really hot-shooting game where he scored 21. He in no way proved that he could be an elite scorer in the playoffs..

[insight]

[QUOTE=insight;14486262]

I mean he had a really hot-shooting game where he scored 21. He in no way proved that he could be an elite scorer in the playoffs..

The only one who proved they were an elite playoff scorer was Trae, but I do believe Cam showed HE COULD BE a elite scorer, he has the potential if he continues to develop. He is too inconsistent and injury prone at the moment but the talent is there.

[Sulico]

Over their careers
1. Luka
2. Trae
Huge gap
3. Ja morant

Right now it's the same order but without big gap.

Ja morant is catching up for sure.

[insight]

Over their careers
1. Luka
2. Trae
Huge gap
3. Ja morant

Right now it's the same order but without big gap.

Ja morant is catching up for sure.

It's all subjective but exactly how is Luka above Trae. Is Luka just who you personally prefer as a player because the stats don't indicate Luka over Trae at all this season.

[90sgoat]

It's all subjective but exactly how is Luka above Trae. Is Luka just who you personally prefer as a player because the stats don't indicate Luka over Trae at all this season.

Luka is a few months removed from 30-10-10 against the Clips in the playoffs then almost leading Slovenia to the Olympic Finals.

He is playing like dogshit this season though.

Some of it is due to the rule changes, but most of it is because he doesn't seem to want to play or compete right now.

[Axe]

I used to despise ja morant but despite that, he ultimately handed over supershooter stephen curry his 2nd consecutive loss in the play-ins aka losers bracket that also inevitably saw the warriors go home without a playoff berth for the second time sans klay. Which changed my opinion a bit about him. He's still clumsy but i think he's improving. Meanwhile, it sucks that luka hasn't progressed over the same team in the playoffs after garnering a 2-0 lead. Esp. when that team has that retard ty lue as their head coach. Trae exceeded expectations last time, beating two teams without hca but i guess that's how far they'll go. It's unlikely that the hawks can make another deep run in the playoffs again.