well its official. the problem wasn't Russ. it was Roid

[Kobe_Bryant]

when westbrook can just focus on driving or feeding davis and not worrying about letting lebron get his numbers the lakers look 10 times better

33 points on 15 of 27 shooting

10 rebounds

8 assists


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[Spurs m8]

Yep.

LeCancer strikes again

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Lecancer needs to retire. Best Lakers looked all year was when he's out. Also their only other win he played like shit. When he plays good they lose hahahaha

[ImKobe]

Yep.

LeCancer strikes again

Wade, Bosh, Love, Irving and now Russ.. All Bron does is make great players worse around him.

[ShawkFactory]

It’s funny because this is exactly why the Lakers got Russ. Lebron is only going to play 60-65 games and they know Russ can have nights like this in the regular season.

Then come playoff time Lebron will be fresh and they’ll have a better shot.

Enjoy this one. You’ll be crying soon enough.

[Jasper]

Kobe _
You actually thought Russ could not ball ??
Dude was an MVP as well as tri-double machine.

[bobopenguin]

can we trade lebron the GOAT for Zion or Doncic?

[Kobe_Bryant]

a reactionary offense where you have one focal point is always far better than 3 guys taking turns

this is why lebrons always had to turn the 3rd guy into a role player

if lebron would just let russ go to work and lebron chose himself as that 3rd guy for once this lakers team would take off

[ShawkFactory]

a reactionary offense where you have one focal point is always far better than 3 guys taking turns

this is why lebrons always had to turn the 3rd guy into a role player

if lebron would just let russ go to work and lebron chose himself as that 3rd guy for once this lakers team would take off

So Westbrook is better than Lebron then? That’s what you’re saying. Why not have Westbrook embrace being the 3rd guy since he’s inferior?

And if this is all true why do you talk about Bosh and Love so much?

[SouBeachTalents]

It’s funny because this is exactly why the Lakers got Russ. Lebron is only going to play 60-65 games and they know Russ can have nights like this in the regular season.

Then come playoff time Lebron will be fresh and they’ll have a better shot.

Enjoy this one. You’ll be crying soon enough.
I honestly don't know what they have planned for Westbrook though once the playoffs begin. Luckily for them they have the entire regular season to try out different approaches and work several things out. Because once the playoffs begin, I don't know how a LeBron & Westbrook backcourt works out at all, if not ends in disaster.

[Kobe_Bryant]

So Westbrook is better than Lebron then? That’s what you’re saying. Why not have Westbrook embrace being the 3rd guy since he’s inferior?

And if this is all true why do you talk about Bosh and Love so much?

lebrons too old to do what russ does. lebron won't even try attacking anymore to get fouled or spoon feed davis. he just takes turns jacking up shots cause its all he can do anymore. he has no lateral movement. he needs a full court of steam to get anything to the rim anymore

[Pip' N Rodman]

Hey OP, why didnt Kevin Love, Kyrie, Bosh, Wade put up better stats once they didnt play with LeBron?

[ShawkFactory]

lebrons too old to do what russ does. lebron won't even try attacking anymore to get fouled or spoon feed davis. he just takes turns jacking up shots cause its all he can do anymore. he has no lateral movement. he needs a full court of steam to get anything to the rim anymore

He can actually shoot now.

[ThatCoolKid]

LeGM playing puppet master. He's so smart he doesn't even need to do shit to win championships.

[GrayGoat]

LeBron works in mysterious ways

[ELITEpower23]

LeBron works in mysterious ways

[Kobe_Bryant]

Hey OP, why didnt Kevin Love, Kyrie, Bosh, Wade put up better stats once they didnt play with LeBron?

so you're saying lebron destroys careers. got it

[NBAGOAT]

Lakers missed lebron more on defense and it makes some sense AD is the only other great defender they play. Spurs scored well and they’ll have one of the worst offenses in the league this year. Obviously Westbrook will play better without bron but that doesn’t mean he’s better than bron on offense lol, we know just bron/ad role players is a pretty good team

[Kobe_Bryant]

He can actually shoot now.

thats cause they're still daring lebron to shoot wide open. when the defense realizes they can finally body up lebron on the perimeter its over

[SATAN]

Obsessed

[Lebron23]

Jeff time for you to ban this lunatic.

[3ba11]

Westbrook averaged 12 ppg with Lebron and 33 without - the weak fit with Lebron prevents him from averaging 20 or otherwise dominating like other 3rd options

[Axe]

Kobe failed to lead the 05 lakers to the playoffs.

[CountDracula]

You basically have Lechikka James & Dorinda Howard vs Rushida Westbrick & Antonia Davis! Hold on to your thongs Laker Boys, it’s going to be one hell of a ride! Go with God Brothers, go with God!

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[RogueBorg]

3Ball's been right along. Lebron gonna wreck Westbrook.

[Gudo]

Im interested to see how this team works when lebron does not play and when westbrook does not play.

[Gudo]

3Ball's been right along. Lebron gonna wreck Westbrook.

It's looking like it

[PP34Deuce]

Lebron is calculating. I believe he's more flexible than people think and more self aware than his haters think.

The more he hits his wide open shots the more the lane opens up. Ultimately he will be a small ball 4 full time second half of the season.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Kobe failed to lead the 05 lakers to the playoffs.

surprised lebron fans still use this considering 2019

me and Odom missed 20 games and the coach stepped down when we were like 10 games over .500 in the playoffs

didn't lebron have an injury excuse for 2019 too. seems like a wash tbh

pick your spots better

[Shogon]

Yep. The Lakers barely squeaked out a 4 point OVERTIME win against a mediocre Spurs roster.

Clearly all of their struggles are on LeBron.

[ralph_i_el]

Russ can be successful when you let him handle the ball every possession. This is known. LeBron has proven that he can play off the ball with other ballhandlers. LeBron has proven that he can create efficient shots when the offense breaks down. The only way the Lakers are going to get the most out of this team is if they let Russ be the primary ballhandler....but that means you're going to get less out of LeBron. They aren't a good pairing, and they aren't nearly as good as the Heatles were talentwise to overcome the bad pairing.

[ralph_i_el]

Lebron won despite a bad fit with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh so it's too early to tell.

The difference is that Wade was 10x the off-ball player Westbrook is. Even without being an ace 3 point shooter, Wade had top-tier off-ball gravity (sucking in defenders with his movement away from the ball, and setting up potential drives before he even caught the ball).

[tpols]

Damn did he really put up that line? :lol

AD is like a center version of KD. All time great big man shooter and spacer for Russell.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Yep. The Lakers barely squeaked out a 4 point OVERTIME win against a mediocre Spurs roster.

Clearly all of their struggles are on LeBron.

I said westbrooks struggles were on lebron

[NBAGOAT]

Yeah and Kyrie was an even better fit for ole roid. Meanwhile, Bosh had to completely change his game. Kevin Love was never the same again.

Kevin love would be similar if he stayed in Minnesota. Injuries and motivation issues are his problem

[ralph_i_el]

Yeah and Kyrie was an even better fit for ole roid. Meanwhile, Bosh had to completely change his game. Kevin Love was never the same again.


If you're a coach are you calling post ups for Love and Bosh when LeBron is on the floor?

[ClipperRevival]

It's SOOOOO obvious Russ is at his best as lead dog. What's also obvious is his team's ceilings would be a 45-50 win team in this scenario.

It will be interesting to see how this team tries to move the pieces around to make it fit.

[Shogon]

It's SOOOOO obvious Russ is at his best as lead dog. What's also obvious is his team's ceilings would be a 45-50 win team in this scenario.

It will be interesting to see how this team tries to move the pieces around to make it fit.

The Lakers had to make that trade for him because the talent upgrade was so massive but the clear answer, if this trend continues after 20 games, would be to trade him for more appropriate roster pieces... and I refuse to believe the Lakers can't get back more for Westbrook than they gave up.

They traded Harrell who was out of the rotation mostly, Kuzma & KCP... and some rando draft pick... for a guy that has relatively recently been the MVP.

They can do better than what they gave up.

You go to Westbrook 20-30 games in and you be honest... look, you're better than you're producing for our team, the fit doesn't work. And we're sticking with LeBron. We're going to try to move you somewhere you will be more successful.

[NBAGOAT]

Love might still be motivated to stat pad if he stayed in Minny so maybe he wouldn't be similar to today.

He couldve statpad multiple years on Cleveland and actually put up decent numbers for a year or 2, he just didn’t care at all last year. Minnesota would almost surely wouldn’t be a food team too. Also injuries are unavoidable

[NBAGOAT]

Yeah but when you win a title you lose motivation... ah who cares. :confusedshrug:

Love could have died in a car accident.

True but plenty of guys decline for whatever reason and they don’t have lebron as a teammate

[SaintzFury13]

Kevin love would be similar if he stayed in Minnesota. Injuries and motivation issues are his problem

Not really. The stats would have been greater and he wouldn't have a championship, which is what he always wanted.

[ralph_i_el]

I'm not saying Id do it different, I'm just giving you history. Maybe I would have pulled a trade, myself. Kept Bron, traded Wade or Bosh. I don't know for sure. That time is over.

Sure, but you don't have LeBron in the first place without those guys. As a fan, I'd love to have seen prime Bosh with a team of his own, but from the Heat's perspective he was absolutely fantastic in the role the played him in. Over qualified, but fantastic.

People forget that LeBron switched up to work with those guys too. 2012 LeBron was a completely different player than 2010 LeBron.

[kabacho]

...

[n00bie]

LeBrons defense is the issue. The guy literally just stands there and does nothing.

Look at how he got injuried. He literally was standing around doing nothing and someone ran into his leg.

[Spurs m8]

LeBrons defense is the issue. The guy literally just stands there and does nothing.

Look at how he got injuried. He literally was standing around doing nothing and someone ran into his leg.

Was trying to pad a rebound stat.

DENIED

[RRR3]

Lmao

[Kobe_Bryant]

Lmao

lakers played well offensively. Westbrook and AD had great games again

being outshot by double at the free throw line is what killed them

you lose

[RRR3]

lakers played well offensively. Westbrook and AD had great games again

being outshot by double at the free throw line is what killed them

you lose
20 points on 20 shots and 10 turnovers is a “great game”? This is why you’re known as one of the stupidest posters of all time.

[Kobe_Bryant]

20 points on 20 shots and 10 turnovers is a “great game”? This is why you’re known as one of the stupidest posters of all time.

wait a darn minute. you're telling me that a lebron fan just glossed over 14 rebounds and 13 assists

:lol

[RRR3]

wait a darn minute. you're telling me that a lebron fan just glossed over 14 rebounds and 13 assists

:lol
13 assists aren’t worth much when you turn it over 10 times. And the Lakers got outrebounded. You’d be hard pressed to find a LeBron fan who thinks 20 points on 20 shots is anything but trash, but you are a retarded Nazi after all, so can’t expect you to know anything.

[TheGoatest]

13 assists aren’t worth much when you turn it over 10 times. And the Lakers got outrebounded. You’d be hard pressed to find a LeBron fan who thinks 20 points on 20 shots is anything but trash, but you are a retarded Nazi after all, so can’t expect you to know anything.

No surprise a Kobe fan thinks 20 points on 20 shots is good. Remember, they think Kobe's 23 points on 24 shots in game 7 of the 2010 finals was good. :roll:

[Kobe_Bryant]

13 assists aren’t worth much when you turn it over 10 times. And the Lakers got outrebounded. You’d be hard pressed to find a LeBron fan who thinks 20 points on 20 shots is anything but trash, but you are a retarded Nazi after all, so can’t expect you to know anything.

I dunno it's not the worst. cut those numbers in half and it's almost 7 assists with 5 turnovers.

that's basically what lebron averaged for an entire year in 2015

[Kobe_Bryant]

No surprise a Kobe fan thinks 20 points on 20 shots is good. Remember, they think Kobe's 23 points on 24 shots in game 7 of the 2010 finals was good. :roll:

I never said my first 3 quarters were good. I said my last 15 minutes were good and rondo said I took over and won the game

[RRR3]

I dunno it's not the worst. cut those numbers in half and it's almost 7 assists with 5 turnovers.

that's basically what lebron averaged for an entire year in 2015
This is just blatant lying lmao. You can’t even argue with facts you have to resort to lies. Klansman Kenny at it again.

[8Ball]

Lmao

ROFL

10 turnovers :lol

[ELITEpower23]

20 points on 20 shots and 10 turnovers is a “great game”? This is why you’re known as one of the stupidest posters of all time.

:oldlol:

[Kobe_Bryant]

russ played great. not all turnovers are the fault of the guy who's passing the ball. I doubt all 10 were passes nowhere near a guy

and what does 10 turnovers account to. 10 to 15 points? 13 assists accounts for 26 to 39 points

turnovers are not the same value as an assist because teams only score every 2nd trip up the floor

[ELITEpower23]

19 pts on 20 shots with 10 turnovers

Classic Kobe game :oldlol:

No wonder Kenny thinks it's a good game

[Kobe_Bryant]

19 pts on 20 shots with 10 turnovers

Classic Kobe game :oldlol:

No wonder Kenny thinks it's a good game

8 for 20 isn't that horrible. 2 off of 50%. the Lakers weren't getting calls. this is why you watch the games

russ had like 3 free throws lol. he attacks a lot too. not his fault the refs have it out for him

and a ton of turnovers is actually lebrons game. not mine

[ShawkFactory]

8 for 20 isn't that horrible. 2 off of 50%. the Lakers weren't getting calls. this is why you watch the games

russ had like 3 free throws lol. he attacks a lot too. not his fault the refs have it out for him

and a ton of turnovers is actually lebrons game. not mine

Bro this is against a team that will be lucky to win 15 games.

They lost

[8Ball]

19 pts on 20 shots with 10 turnovers

Classic Kobe game :oldlol:

No wonder Kenny thinks it's a good game

:roll:

Anything better than a 6/24 game is a "good game".

19 points on 20 shots with 10 turnovers = great game.

What Shaq had to deal with.... smh.

[PP34Deuce]

The shots wasn't bad 8-20 just means you had a couple shots that didn't go in. The turnovers on a young athletic team is what did them in.

Every coach young and old has said if you limit second chance points and turnovers, you win the game more often than not.

2 less turnovers and and less offensive rebounds, LA wins the game.

[eliteballer]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CVj8IJjhWk2/?utm_medium=copy_link

[ELITEpower23]

:roll:

Anything better than a 6/24 game is a "good game".

19 points on 20 shots with 10 turnovers = great game.

What Shaq had to deal with.... smh.

:oldlol::oldlol:

[LAL]

:roll:

Anything better than a 6/24 game is a "good game".

19 points on 20 shots with 10 turnovers = great game.

What Shaq had to deal with.... smh.

Kobe/Shaq/Fisher: 3/4

Kobe/Pau/Fisher: 2/3

Lebron/Wade/Bosh: 2/4

Lebron/Kyrie/Love: 1/3

[Kobe_Bryant]

:roll:

Anything better than a 6/24 game is a "good game".

19 points on 20 shots with 10 turnovers = great game.

What Shaq had to deal with.... smh.

people always nitpick my game 7 in a victory that I closed out well and those people are almost always fans of a certain guy that literally had 5 entire finals series on that level of atrocity and lost all of them except one because of a ray allen bail out

lebron basically quit 2007 and got swept

then quit 2011 and got owned by jj barea

then got dared to shoot wide open all series in 2013 shooting 29% from outside 5 feet and you know what happened

then 2014 getting blown out by a record margin and faking injuries/getting carried off the floor whenever he saw kawhi Leonard enter the game.

then got owned by a role player in 2015 while again being incapable of making anything outside of the paint


and then there's the series where he had epic brain farts like 2016 game 7 missing his last 4 shots before kyries bail out. 2017 game 3 getting a game winner stuck in his eye.. then 2018 game 1 with the OT quit job. game 3 soft pick to lose the game. then quitting game 4



lebron is a lifelong cripple mentally


only I was actually crippled physically with a broken index finger and no knee cartilage to explain my struggles

but what made me prevail was doing other things. never losing confidence. shutting down piece and allen. rebounding like prime shaq. driving for contact and manufacturing points. and doing all the dirty work.

[8Ball]

19 points in 20 shots + 10 turnover westbrook > 6 / 24 :lol

[Kobe_Bryant]

19 points in 20 shots + 10 turnover westbrook > 6 / 24 :lol

ask rondo what he thinks. he saw both first hand lol

[hiphopanonymous]

Hey OP, why didnt Kevin Love, Kyrie, Bosh, Wade put up better stats when they didnt play with LeBron?

Kevin Love: 26ppg, 13rpg, 4.5apg
LeSpot up Love: 16ppg, 10rpg, 2apg

Kyrie Irving: 27ppg, 5rpg, 7apg
LeBailmeout Irving: 25ppg, 3rpg, 5apg

Dwyane Wade: 30ppg, 5rpg, 7.5apg
LeBailmeout Wade: 21ppg, 5rpg, 5apg

Chris Bosh: 24ppg, 11rpg, 2.5apg
LeSpotup Bosh 18ppg, 8rpg, 2apg

:wtf:

[AirBonner]

Kevin Love: 26ppg, 13rpg, 4.5apg
LeSpot up Love: 16ppg, 10rpg, 2apg

Kyrie Irving: 27ppg, 5rpg, 7apg
LeBailmeout Irving: 25ppg, 3rpg, 5apg

Dwyane Wade: 30ppg, 5rpg, 7.5apg
LeBailmeout Wade: 21ppg, 5rpg, 5apg

Chris Bosh: 24ppg, 11rpg, 2.5apg
LeSpotup Bosh 18ppg, 8rpg, 2apg

:wtf:
Let’s just ignore that Kyrie in Boston scored less than the last year of Kyrie in Cleveland

[FireDavidKahn]

Lakers without LeBron are the worst team in the league and they proved it last night,

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kuzma and Montrezl Harrell about to have Wizards at 4-1

while lakers embarrass themselves and blow 25 point leads to OKC HAHAHAHAHAH

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Lakers without LeBron are the worst team in the league and they proved it last night,

lebron is already the slowest player in the league, they showed a graph of it last night and he was bottom four. In about a year, lebron's knees will be so damn old and dead he wont even be able to walk.

[Airupthere]

lebron is already the slowest player in the league, they showed a graph of it last night and he was bottom four. In about a year, lebron's knees will be so damn old and dead he wont even be able to walk.

Does he have the same tolerance as kawhi now in terms of how many games can be played in a season?