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bladefd
10-26-2021, 11:52 PM
Kanter is going all-in against China and now going after Nike :lol
China already banned Celtics games from running there after Kanter posted couple videos and insulted Winnie The Pooh
Even wore these shoes yesterday:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCpNuudWQAUfpg6?format=jpg&name=360x360
Tweeted this today, going after Nike/LeBron/Jordan:
To the owner of @Nike, Phil Knight
How about I book plane tickets for us and let's fly to China together.
We can try to visit these SLAVE labor camps and you can see it with your own eyes.
@KingJames
@Jumpman23
you guys are welcome to come too.
#EndUyghurForcedLaborhttps://twitter.com/EnesKanter/status/1453059299056422912?s=20
FultzNationRISE
10-27-2021, 12:29 AM
OP wants to give Kanter HEAD
HBK_Kliq_2
10-27-2021, 12:36 AM
Proud of enes. Putting pieces of shits like Nike, China and lebron in their place.
Stephonit
10-27-2021, 12:44 AM
If people are really woke they'd buy Enes Kanter jerseys but they're made by Nike now so I don't know how that should work. Probably get a knockoff.
dreamshake
10-27-2021, 12:52 AM
Proud of enes. Putting pieces of shits like Nike, China and lebron in their place.
:roll:
Akeem34TheDream
10-27-2021, 02:11 AM
Respect. Some people will still call it virtue signaling or hypocrisy but they are idiots. And he doesn't benefit from this financially.
Spurs m8
10-27-2021, 02:14 AM
Wow, even putting LeSlaveOwner on blast.
Massive.
Probably why LeEgo sat out today....too upset
LeCola
10-27-2021, 02:35 AM
Do you really think he does that of his free will?
He is a member of "Gulen Community".
He is just another version of Kyrie.
He does what his master wants.
So, "How long will Enes Kanter last?" is not a good fit for this condition.
If you ask my idea about those camps, they are the modern versions of Nazi Camps.
HylianNightmare
10-27-2021, 03:28 AM
Wearing that shit on nikes. What a clown
Mr. Woke
10-27-2021, 06:05 AM
Americans are such hypocrites lol (I'm American btw). They act like China is the only country that has exploitative labor practices.
Also, the U.S. doesn't genuinely care about the Uyghurs; it's only pretending to care because China threatens U.S. hegemony. The U.S. has been killing millions of Muslims (directly and indirectly) over the last 20 years or so (at least), and I'm supposed to believe that the U.S. really cares about the well-being of some Chinese Muslims?
Talk about a good bullshit story :roll:
Spurs m8
10-27-2021, 06:22 AM
Bron already on the phone, crying to Silver, in tears
beasted
10-27-2021, 09:00 AM
If people are really woke they'd buy Enes Kanter jerseys but they're made by Nike now so I don't know how that should work. Probably get a knockoff.
Knockoff would for sure be made in China.
ralph_i_el
10-27-2021, 09:34 AM
Enes cares so much about a conspiracy theory with little evidence backing it up....
then he goes and acts as a huge supporter of Israel, when we have evidence of their genocide on tape every single day.
If you fall for this, you are a moron. :facepalm The US has already backtracked on all their claims about Xinjiang.
8Ball
10-27-2021, 09:48 AM
LeBron needs to send Rich Paul gang after this mofo.
Hurting LeBron's China money. This is upsetting.
Jasper
10-27-2021, 09:56 AM
Respect. Some people will still call it virtue signaling or hypocrisy but they are idiots. And he doesn't benefit from this financially.
10 4
Shogon
10-27-2021, 10:20 AM
Respect. Some people will still call it virtue signaling or hypocrisy but they are idiots. And he doesn't benefit from this financially.
He's made all the money he ever needs to make and he's not getting any huge contracts going forward. He is in a no risk situation other than potentially being abducted randomly somewhere in an airport or something.
And he continues to wear the products (jersey + shorts aside) from the very company and country he is speaking out against.
This would be like eating a bucket of KFC while yelling about how poorly the chickens are treated.
It is virtue signaling to the maximum and you're a ****ing idiot for not seeing it.
FultzNationRISE
10-27-2021, 10:41 AM
LeBron needs to send Rich Paul gang after this mofo.
Hurting LeBron's China money. This is upsetting.
Bingo.
pEnes needs to think about this. He needs to take a walk over to the Atlantic shore and take a look down, and imagine what it’s gonna feel like sliding around down at the bottom with them eels and them crabs crawling out of his eyeballs.
The contract’s already down. The guys, the guns, the lime pit’s already dug.
And from where Bron is, just one button he pushes...
bison
10-27-2021, 10:47 AM
LeChong needs to put some phone calls in and send this guy to the euro league.
theman93
10-27-2021, 11:26 AM
Wow, based. :applause:
BurningHammer
10-27-2021, 02:34 PM
Ain't Erdogan also want Kanter dead as well?
Those big guys out there probably won't do anything now until he retires and then they will assassinate him later. :ohwell:
Mr. Woke
10-27-2021, 08:03 PM
Wow, based. :applause:
That isn't based at all lol.
The U.S. pontificates/virtue signals about Uyghur Muslims being oppressed in China while literally being complicit in the genocide going on in Yemen right now (as well as being responsible either directly or indirectly for the deaths of millions of Muslims in various conflicts over the last few decades).
The U.S. doesn't give a shit about the Uyghur Muslims. The U.S. is simply insecure about China threatening U.S. hegemony.
My take is actually based. You are a naive dumbass.
Spurs m8
10-27-2021, 08:10 PM
Enes cares so much about a conspiracy theory with little evidence backing it up....
then he goes and acts as a huge supporter of Israel, when we have evidence of their genocide on tape every single day.
If you fall for this, you are a moron. :facepalm The US has already backtracked on all their claims about Xinjiang.
Little evidence?
What? Hahahhahahhahahahaahh
tpols
10-27-2021, 08:44 PM
**** China. Our western governments suck but China is the king when it comes to tyranny over its people.
They even have paid snitches with quotas @ 3:58. They call them "information enforcers".
https://youtu.be/0cGB8dCDf3c
bobopenguin
10-27-2021, 09:09 PM
so far i dont see any willing to stand up and root with Kanter.
so much for a social justice warrior/human right fighters mentality in nba, at the end, it's all about their own skin colour.
Mr. Woke
10-27-2021, 09:48 PM
so far i dont see any willing to stand up and root with Kanter.
so much for a social justice warrior/human right fighters mentality in nba, at the end, it's all about their own skin colour.
It's more pragmatic/logical to focus on issues in your own country, where you have a better chance of making an impact.
Besides, the U.S. has no moral high ground when it comes to human rights violations.
outofstomach
10-27-2021, 09:52 PM
so far i dont see any willing to stand up and root with Kanter.
so much for a social justice warrior/human right fighters mentality in nba, at the end, it's all about their own skin colour.
just say you don’t like black people bro
bladefd
10-27-2021, 09:59 PM
That isn't based at all lol.
The U.S. pontificates/virtue signals about Uyghur Muslims being oppressed in China while literally being complicit in the genocide going on in Yemen right now (as well as being responsible either directly or indirectly for the deaths of millions of Muslims in various conflicts over the last few decades).
The U.S. doesn't give a shit about the Uyghur Muslims. The U.S. is simply insecure about China threatening U.S. hegemony.
My take is actually based. You are a naive dumbass.
Is it wrong to wish the Chinese government implodes completely? Why can't we say "To hell with the Chinese government"?
FultzNationRISE
10-27-2021, 10:03 PM
It's more pragmatic/logical to focus on issues in your own country, where you have a better chance of making an impact.
Besides, the U.S. has no moral high ground when it comes to human rights violations.
EXACTLY.
People have completely twisted LeLuminary's MLK-day tweet when he said “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." As if that automatically means it applies to places like China on the other side of the friggin world.
What he clearly MEANT by it - which is completely lost on the dumbass haters - is that when people dont support BLM politics, they're literally hunting black people and threatening justice everywhere. Which he is 100% right about.
That quote has nothing to do with "human rights in China." He's talking about the injustice of America, like people getting booed when they kneel for a flag n stuff. Those kinds of egregious human rights violations are what Lebron has ALWAYS been willing to take a stand on, even though it is extremely difficult and dangerous, considering he's risking his livelyhood and indeed his life. But he's more than an athlete, and MORE than a slogan. He won't shut up and dribble. He'll strive for excellence because he's more than an athlete. And if you want detail and substance? No problem. Ask him to go deep on any topic out there and he'll tell you straight up: He's more than an athlete.
Mr. Woke
10-27-2021, 10:18 PM
Is it wrong to wish the Chinese government implodes completely? Why can't we say "To hell with the Chinese government"?
Both the U.S. and Chinese governments do shady things. Neither of them has the moral high ground.
To hell with both of them. It is what it is though.
Mr. Woke
10-27-2021, 10:21 PM
EXACTLY.
People have completely twisted LeLuminary's MLK-day tweet when he said “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." As if that automatically means it applies to places like China on the other side of the friggin world.
What he clearly MEANT by it - which is completely lost on the dumbass haters - is that when people dont support BLM politics, they're literally hunting black people and threatening justice everywhere. Which he is 100% right about.
That quote has nothing to do with "human rights in China." He's talking about the injustice of America, like people getting booed when they kneel for a flag n stuff. Those kinds of egregious human rights violations are what Lebron has ALWAYS been willing to take a stand on, even though it is extremely difficult and dangerous, considering he's risking his livelyhood and indeed his life. But he's more than an athlete, and MORE than a slogan. He won't shut up and dribble. He'll strive for excellence because he's more than an athlete. And if you want detail and substance? No problem. Ask him to go deep on any topic out there and he'll tell you straight up: He's more than an athlete.
Spot on.
MLK and Ali also focused on issues going on in America and/or that personally affected them, which is something that a lot of people conveniently forget.
Ali went to Zaire to fight (either once or twice, I don't remember exactly) and he didn't say shit about Mobutu Sese Seko (Zaire's leader and a brutal dictator). However, he had no obligation to speak out against him; Zaire wasn't his country. The same logic applies to LeBron; China isn't his country.
bladefd
10-27-2021, 10:39 PM
Both the U.S. and Chinese governments do shady things. Neither of them has the moral high ground.
To hell with both of them. It is what it is though.
Yes, both do shady things, but one more so than the other.
FultzNationRISE
10-27-2021, 11:24 PM
Spot on.
MLK and Ali also focused on issues going on in America and/or that personally affected them, which is something that a lot of people conveniently forget.
Ali went to Zaire to fight (either once or twice, I don't remember exactly) and he didn't say shit about Mobutu Sese Seko (Zaire's leader and a brutal dictator). However, he had no obligation to speak out against him; Zaire wasn't his country. The same logic applies to LeBron; China isn't his country.
:applause:
Everyone has an obligation to put their own country first. That’s why it was so important for LeNationalist to speak out heavily against Trump’s nationalism and the dangers of his nationalistic ideas. What people dont realize is that injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere, which by DEFINITION means putting one’s own country first and opposing nationalism at the same time.
At the end of the day it’s not about money and cheap platitudes for a guy like LeGenius. It’s about being a leader and an activist and doing what’s RIGHT. But the typical pleb cant see the chess board the way He can. It’s that simple.
Mr. Woke
10-28-2021, 01:46 AM
Yes, both do shady things, but one more so than the other.
Nope.
Plus, the U.S. has a bigger track record when it comes to meddling in other countries' affairs and bombing the shit out of other countries (predominantly Middle Eastern ones).
Mr. Woke
10-28-2021, 01:46 AM
:applause:
Everyone has an obligation to put their own country first. That’s why it was so important for LeNationalist to speak out heavily against Trump’s nationalism and the dangers of his nationalistic ideas. What people dont realize is that injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere, which by DEFINITION means putting one’s own country first and opposing nationalism at the same time.
At the end of the day it’s not about money and cheap platitudes for a guy like LeGenius. It’s about being a leader and an activist and doing what’s RIGHT. But the typical pleb cant see the chess board the way He can. It’s that simple.
Bingo :rockon:
bladefd
10-28-2021, 02:16 AM
Nope.
Plus, the U.S. has a bigger track record when it comes to meddling in other countries' affairs and bombing the shit out of other countries (predominantly Middle Eastern ones).
Can you sue the Chinese government and take them to court?
Akeem34TheDream
10-28-2021, 02:16 AM
Bingo :rockon:
:roll: :roll:
Mr. Woke
10-28-2021, 02:42 AM
Can you sue the Chinese government and take them to court?
I have no clue.
Both the U.S. and Chinese governments are shady as hell boy.
ralph_i_el
10-28-2021, 08:49 AM
Can you sue the Chinese government and take them to court?
Yes.
https://i.ibb.co/JCxZ1HX/chinayes.png
Americans just make shit up about China with absolute confidence because they know that 99% of people are too nervous to contradict any jingo bullshit.
RogueBorg
10-28-2021, 09:19 AM
Besides, the U.S. has no moral high ground when it comes to human rights violations.
True about the US, but if the NBA players were true social justice warriors they would kneel for all the oppressed. They're hypocrites because green is the only color they care about.
ralph_i_el
10-28-2021, 10:00 AM
Americans have no room to talk about anybody else's legal system right now. Google Steve Donziger.
rawimpact
10-28-2021, 12:04 PM
If they havent already, Nike needs to do what New Balance did and have a line of US made shoes. Let the consumers decide what they want and at what cost.
Mr. Woke
10-28-2021, 03:07 PM
True about the US, but if the NBA players were true social justice warriors they would kneel for all the oppressed. They're hypocrites because green is the only color they care about.
Nope.
You can pick and choose what social justice issues you want to focus on.
theman93
10-28-2021, 03:42 PM
That isn't based at all lol.
The U.S. pontificates/virtue signals about Uyghur Muslims being oppressed in China while literally being complicit in the genocide going on in Yemen right now (as well as being responsible either directly or indirectly for the deaths of millions of Muslims in various conflicts over the last few decades).
The U.S. doesn't give a shit about the Uyghur Muslims. The U.S. is simply insecure about China threatening U.S. hegemony.
My take is actually based. You are a naive dumbass.
No it's not. You attacked a straw man you idiot.
This is about Enes Kanter, not the US.
Reading comprehension would do you well.
theman93
10-28-2021, 03:43 PM
Nope.
You can pick and choose what social justice issues you want to focus on.
Well then if that's the case, then the US can also pick and choose what social justice issues it wants to focus on. Your arguments are inconsistent and illogical. Your username fits you perfectly.
ralph_i_el
10-28-2021, 04:30 PM
No it's not. You attacked a straw man you idiot.
This is about Enes Kanter, not the US.
Reading comprehension would do you well.
Kanter is repeating a misleading narrative that has been spread almost exclusively by people connected to the US State Department.
theman93
10-28-2021, 04:35 PM
Kanter is repeating a misleading narrative that has been spread almost exclusively by people connected to the US State Department.
It's a misleading narrative that Nike uses slave labor in China to make their shoes?
bladefd
10-28-2021, 07:55 PM
Yes.
https://i.ibb.co/JCxZ1HX/chinayes.png
Americans just make shit up about China with absolute confidence because they know that 99% of people are too nervous to contradict any jingo bullshit.
And as a reporter, do you have freedom of press to report something on say Xi or members of the Communist party? We are afforded freedom of press, speech, religion here in America. Even hate speech against say our president is protected by the US Constitution.
Try doing that to Xi as a Chinese reporter or journalist. Or hate speech as a Chinese citizen against Xi.
Mr. Woke
10-28-2021, 09:45 PM
No it's not. You attacked a straw man you idiot.
This is about Enes Kanter, not the US.
Reading comprehension would do you well.
My take is based. You have zero reading comprehension, and you are a retard.
Mr. Woke
10-28-2021, 09:45 PM
Well then if that's the case, then the US can also pick and choose what social justice issues it wants to focus on. Your arguments are inconsistent and illogical. Your username fits you perfectly.
Obviously. I never said otherwise.
Try to keep up.
Mr. Woke
10-28-2021, 09:46 PM
And as a reporter, do you have freedom of press to report something on say Xi or members of the Communist party? We are afforded freedom of press, speech, religion here in America. Even hate speech against say our president is protected by the US Constitution.
Try doing that to Xi as a Chinese reporter or journalist. Or hate speech as a Chinese citizen against Xi.
Different countries have different ways of doing things.
The U.S. has no right to dictate how other countries operate.
FultzNationRISE
10-28-2021, 09:49 PM
Different countries have different ways of doing things.
The U.S. has no right to dictate how other countries operate.
What if that's just our way of doing things tho?
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e7/95/d3/e795d3bfaa35b8843bf27b83e65a111d.gif
ralph_i_el
10-28-2021, 10:19 PM
And as a reporter, do you have freedom of press to report something on say Xi or members of the Communist party? We are afforded freedom of press, speech, religion here in America. Even hate speech against say our president is protected by the US Constitution.
Try doing that to Xi as a Chinese reporter or journalist. Or hate speech as a Chinese citizen against Xi.
https://i.ibb.co/2dBDfkV/Screenshot-20211028-220630-Chrome.jpg (https://ibb.co/yqJwbQv)
They have freedom of press for domestic news sources, but not foreign. Foreign sources of news have to get licenses that can be revoked. This is similar to the most current US policy. Besides the recent policy, the FCC has for a long time had to approve of foreign citizens owning more than 25% of a company with broadcasting licenses. Things like this are considered normal in the US, and blown out of proportion when talking about China. This is because most Americans have no interest in fairly assessing China, and no base of knowledge to work from if they wanted to.
https://i.ibb.co/vcLhNB4/Screenshot-20211028-221026-Chrome.jpg (https://ibb.co/YNfX5WB)
Like most countries, China has problems with propaganda and self-censorship in domestic press. It's a little more straightforward and heavy handed than the press manipulation that goes on in the US, and arguably less effective at turning people into idiots who love the status quo.
Frankly, if you oppose "globalism", look at China. They're one of the few countries that has actually put in place serious policies to counteract it. Most of the folks in America who hate "globalism" are just naturally conditioned to think that the Chinese are subhuman, so they fail to notice.
ralph_i_el
10-28-2021, 10:43 PM
It's a misleading narrative that Nike uses slave labor in China to make their shoes?
That's the case according to a think tank funded by Australia's government, citing Adrian Zenz (US Government), and a bunch of documents in Chinese that they claim to incriminating documents from the CCP.
bladefd
10-28-2021, 11:39 PM
Different countries have different ways of doing things.
The U.S. has no right to dictate how other countries operate.
But let's not then say US is just like China. It's not even close.
bladefd
10-28-2021, 11:52 PM
https://i.ibb.co/2dBDfkV/Screenshot-20211028-220630-Chrome.jpg (https://ibb.co/yqJwbQv)
They have freedom of press for domestic news sources, but not foreign. Foreign sources of news have to get licenses that can be revoked. This is similar to the most current US policy. Besides the recent policy, the FCC has for a long time had to approve of foreign citizens owning more than 25% of a company with broadcasting licenses. Things like this are considered normal in the US, and blown out of proportion when talking about China. This is because most Americans have no interest in fairly assessing China, and no base of knowledge to work from if they wanted to.
https://i.ibb.co/vcLhNB4/Screenshot-20211028-221026-Chrome.jpg (https://ibb.co/YNfX5WB)
Like most countries, China has problems with propaganda and self-censorship in domestic press. It's a little more straightforward and heavy handed than the press manipulation that goes on in the US, and arguably less effective at turning people into idiots who love the status quo.
Frankly, if you oppose "globalism", look at China. They're one of the few countries that has actually put in place serious policies to counteract it. Most of the folks in America who hate "globalism" are just naturally conditioned to think that the Chinese are subhuman, so they fail to notice.
Nonsense, you can't criticize Xi or those in power. Look at what happened to the former Alibaba CEO. He criticized the Chinese government's financial department and disappeared for months. His Ant group was shut down overnight by Chinese government. It's almost like the government marching in and shutting down Apple because Tim Cook criticized the government.
You sound exactly like a Chinese government shill.
bobopenguin
10-29-2021, 12:07 AM
Kanter is repeating a misleading narrative that has been spread almost exclusively by people connected to the US State Department.
u should be shamed of urself.
reading international news will actually increase ur global awareness.
Mr. Woke
10-29-2021, 12:14 AM
What if that's just our way of doing things tho?
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e7/95/d3/e795d3bfaa35b8843bf27b83e65a111d.gif
Sure, why not.
Then we have no right to criticize China (since we have no moral high ground).
Mr. Woke
10-29-2021, 12:15 AM
But let's not then say US is just like China. It's not even close.
You are wrong.
Pull your head out of your ass.
Mr. Woke
10-29-2021, 12:16 AM
u should be shamed of urself.
reading international news will actually increase ur global awareness.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
The U.S. has zero moral high ground when it comes to criticizing other countries regarding human rights abuses.
bobopenguin
10-29-2021, 12:17 AM
Nope.
You can pick and choose what social justice issues you want to focus on.
except woke mobs are going all over the place to force their ideology into common folk's throat.
bobopenguin
10-29-2021, 12:21 AM
You should be ashamed of yourself.
The U.S. has zero moral high ground when it comes to criticizing other countries regarding human rights abuses.
o rly? when is human rights a regional focus only?
FultzNationRISE
10-29-2021, 12:51 AM
o rly? when is human rights a regional focus only?
I think you're missing the point.
You, myself, Mr. Woke, and anyone else cannot just pick and choose when human rights are a global issue or only pertain to one race of people or in one country or whatever things of that nature the case may be.
But Lebron CAN. He's the exception. It's called King's Privilege.
He's earned that.
Mr. Woke
10-29-2021, 01:49 AM
except woke mobs are going all over the place to force their ideology into common folk's throat.
Nope. You are a paranoid/delusional right wing dumbass.
Mr. Woke
10-29-2021, 01:51 AM
o rly? when is human rights a regional focus only?
You can pick whatever issues you want to focus on/devote time towards.
Mr. Woke
10-29-2021, 01:52 AM
I think you're missing the point.
You, myself, Mr. Woke, and anyone else cannot just pick and choose when human rights are a global issue or only pertain to one race of people or in one country or whatever things of that nature the case may be.
But Lebron CAN. He's the exception. It's called King's Privilege.
He's earned that.
Anyone can pick and choose what social justice issues they want to focus on. It isn't hypocritical at all.
ralph_i_el
10-29-2021, 05:43 AM
u should be shamed of urself.
reading international news will actually increase ur global awareness.
Brother, I actually read the sources in the news articles.
ralph_i_el
10-29-2021, 05:55 AM
Nonsense, you can't criticize Xi or those in power. Look at what happened to the former Alibaba CEO. He criticized the Chinese government's financial department and disappeared for months. His Ant group was shut down overnight by Chinese government. It's almost like the government marching in and shutting down Apple because Tim Cook criticized the government.
You sound exactly like a Chinese government shill.
You can't expose the US government blowing up civilians with helicopters, or that the NSA is reading all our emails. Our government will chase you to the ends of the earth and throw you in federal prison.
You're well behind the Jack Ma story. Try to stay caught up.
https://i.ibb.co/vcJMFZ9/Screenshot-20211029-054751-Chrome.jpg (https://ibb.co/sgFXfy7)
https://i.ibb.co/3cKJ83H/Screenshot-20211029-055138-Chrome.jpg (https://ibb.co/NKR4kvz)
Nobody ever shut down ANT group. They're still around. Ma is still in charge. I think it's smart for the government to regulate a company that has facial and financial data on 1 billion people. In the US, we let those companies get hacked and everyone's data stolen, and then nobody gets in trouble for it!
ralph_i_el
10-29-2021, 05:57 AM
This thread has been a great example of how the western media manipulates perceptions on China.
I think it's a good idea for a country to be able to regulate financial institutions. In the USA, financial institutions regulate you.
theman93
10-29-2021, 10:12 AM
That's the case according to a think tank funded by Australia's government, citing Adrian Zenz (US Government), and a bunch of documents in Chinese that they claim to incriminating documents from the CCP.
Correct. Now, if something being said about you was a lie, wouldn't you set the record straight?
Has Nike denied the allegations?
ralph_i_el
10-29-2021, 10:44 AM
Correct. Now, if something being said about you was a lie, wouldn't you set the record straight?
Has Nike denied the allegations?
Yes. How about googling before asking me questions like this? I'm tired of taking screenshots for you all. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-54826270 Of course, I trust these companies about as far as I can throw them, so take it with a grain of salt.
China has denied it too, and invited foreign observers to Xinjiang. They invited the UN (didn't go) and diplomats from dozens of countries. They invited Pompeo himself, and Pompeo refused.
The US led a UN resolution to accuse China of all of this, and got lots of our allies to sign on. China made a resolution denying it, and got even more countries to sign on to theirs....including many majority-muslim nations.
https://jamestown.org/program/the-22-vs-50-diplomatic-split-between-the-west-and-china-over-xinjiang-and-human-rights/
Countries that claim China is doing genocide are on the left. Countries denying it are on the right. Of course, the US and China probably pressured a lot of these nations.
https://i.ibb.co/0BjHYyw/Signatories.png
^Notice how Tajikistan, which borders Xinjiang and is made up of a related ethno-religious-linguistic demographic, signed the Chinese resolution. Notice how the list of countries supporting the US are all European, save for Japan, who hates China.
theman93
10-29-2021, 12:25 PM
Yes. How about googling before asking me questions like this? I'm tired of taking screenshots for you all. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-54826270 Of course, I trust these companies about as far as I can throw them, so take it with a grain of salt.
China has denied it too, and invited foreign observers to Xinjiang. They invited the UN (didn't go) and diplomats from dozens of countries. They invited Pompeo himself, and Pompeo refused.
The US led a UN resolution to accuse China of all of this, and got lots of our allies to sign on. China made a resolution denying it, and got even more countries to sign on to theirs....including many majority-muslim nations.
https://jamestown.org/program/the-22-vs-50-diplomatic-split-between-the-west-and-china-over-xinjiang-and-human-rights/
Countries that claim China is doing genocide are on the left. Countries denying it are on the right. Of course, the US and China probably pressured a lot of these nations.
https://i.ibb.co/0BjHYyw/Signatories.png
^Notice how Tajikistan, which borders Xinjiang and is made up of a related ethno-religious-linguistic demographic, signed the Chinese resolution. Notice how the list of countries supporting the US are all European, save for Japan, who hates China.
I have read plenty on it. Nike’s official statement states that since 2019 they no longer employ from the XUAR region but they do not confirm that they do not get raw material from the XUAR region. In other words, according to them, they do not employ slave labor, but they will not confirm that their raw material is produced off the back of slave labor.
Meanwhile, I also trust China as far as I can throw them. Yeah they invited the UN to Xinjiang, but they will not allow for an investigation. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/china-un-xinjiang-human-rights-1.5968002
China getting more countries to sign off on it’s resolution means absolute thing to me. As the article explains:
The attitude held by these states towards the Xinjiang issue is unlikely to change: for these governments, relations with China are far more important than supporting the Uyghurs (China Brief, March 5).
So to bring this full circle, no, Kanter is not promoting a misleading narrative.
ralph_i_el
10-29-2021, 12:58 PM
I have read plenty on it. NikeÂ’s official statement states that since 2019 they no longer employ from the XUAR region but they do not confirm that they do not get raw material from the XUAR region. In other words, according to them, they do not employ slave labor, but they will not confirm that their raw material is produced off the back of slave labor.
Meanwhile, I also trust China as far as I can throw them. Yeah they invited the UN to Xinjiang, but they will not allow for an investigation. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/china-un-xinjiang-human-rights-1.5968002
China getting more countries to sign off on itÂ’s resolution means absolute thing to me. As the article explains:
So to bring this full circle, no, Kanter is not promoting a misleading narrative.
...except for the fact that there's no solid evidence for these claims. It's just media outlets repeating the same claim over and over based on the same shady "evidence" from State Department connected sources, then saying "Many sources have said". Repeating something 10,000 times doesn't make it more true.
China won't allow the UN entirely unrestricted access to Xinjiang. The US wouldn't do that either. The U.S. is repeatedly blocking the U.N. from doing anything about Palestine.
Here's what that UN HR Chief had to say about the U.S. border. Take this as you will:
“As a pediatrician, but also as a mother and a former head of State, I am deeply shocked that children are forced to sleep on the floor in overcrowded facilities, without access to adequate healthcare or food, and with poor sanitation conditions”, said High Commissioner for Human Rights Michelle Bachelet.
theman93
10-29-2021, 01:14 PM
Obviously. I never said otherwise.
Try to keep up.
Yes you did you dope.
First you said:
You can pick and choose what social justice issues you want to focus on.
Then you had a problem with this:
The U.S. pontificates/virtue signals about Uyghur Muslims being oppressed in China while literally being complicit in the genocide going on in Yemen right now (as well as being responsible either directly or indirectly for the deaths of millions of Muslims in various conflicts over the last few decades).
If you can pick your social justice issues then you shouldnÂ’t have a problem with the US saying it cares about Muslims in China, but not caring about Muslims in the Middle East.
Like all the other woke idiots, your position is inconsistent and illogical.
bladefd
10-29-2021, 01:14 PM
...except for the fact that there's no solid evidence for these claims. It's just media outlets repeating the same claim over and over based on the same shady "evidence" from State Department connected sources, then saying "Many sources have said". Repeating something 10,000 times doesn't make it more true.
China won't allow the UN entirely unrestricted access to Xinjiang. The US wouldn't do that either. The U.S. is repeatedly blocking the U.N. from doing anything about Palestine.
Here's what that UN HR Chief had to say about the U.S. border. Take this as you will:
There can be no evidence without an investigation. What? You thought evidence could be conjured up by magic without a chance to investigate?
theman93
10-29-2021, 01:29 PM
...except for the fact that there's no solid evidence for these claims. It's just media outlets repeating the same claim over and over based on the same shady "evidence" from State Department connected sources, then saying "Many sources have said". Repeating something 10,000 times doesn't make it more true.
China won't allow the UN entirely unrestricted access to Xinjiang. The US wouldn't do that either. The U.S. is repeatedly blocking the U.N. from doing anything about Palestine.
Here's what that UN HR Chief had to say about the U.S. border. Take this as you will:
It's not that hard to connect the dots dude. Nike, who you and I agree isn't even trustworthy in the first place, won't even deny that their raw materials are not produced off the back of slave labor.
Allow a full investigation if you have nothing to hide and the report is false. The US should do the exact same with Palestine.
ralph_i_el
10-29-2021, 01:57 PM
It's not that hard to connect the dots dude. Nike, who you and I agree isn't even trustworthy in the first place, won't even deny that their raw materials are not produced off the back of slave labor.
Allow a full investigation if you have nothing to hide and the report is false. The US should do the exact same with Palestine.
lol, NOW you're willing to "connect the dots"?
Did you know that the Supreme Court just ruled that it's ok for U.S. corporations to use slave labor, so long as it's abroad?
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/17/supreme-court-rules-in-favor-of-nestle-in-child-slavery-case.html
Here's what Nike actually said about this:
"Nike does not source any raw cotton. And regarding Xinjiang, Nike has confirmed with its suppliers that there are no spun yarns or textiles manufactured in the area in our products."
No large manufacturer in the world can deny that they use any raw materials from slave labor. First off, most companies have no way of knowing, and secondly, most products have a touch of slavery somewhere in the supply line.
13 years ago we had slaves picking tomatoes in Florida. Can you 100% confirm that you never used slave-produced raw materials in your BLTs? https://ciw-online.org/blog/2007/12/no_slave_labor/
ralph_i_el
10-29-2021, 02:02 PM
The US should do the exact same with Palestine.
Well, I promise you they won't. Enes himself is a huge Israel fan btw.
Funny how there's ~3x as many Uyghurs as Palestinians, but we get near daily video evidence of what is happening to Palestinians, and we don't from the Uyghurs. Maybe China is blocking all external communication for 13 million Uyghurs? If that was possible, don't you think Israel would try do the same? They're always bragging about their high tech industries. Maybe Palestinians are just better at hiding sim cards in their ass?
FultzNationRISE
10-29-2021, 02:05 PM
lol, NOW you're willing to "connect the dots"?
Did you know that the Supreme Court just ruled that it's ok for U.S. corporations to use slave labor, so long as it's abroad?
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/17/supreme-court-rules-in-favor-of-nestle-in-child-slavery-case.html
Here's what Nike actually said about this:
No large manufacturer in the world can deny that they use any raw materials from slave labor. First off, most companies have no way of knowing, and secondly, most products have a touch of slavery somewhere in the supply line.
13 years ago we had slaves picking tomatoes in Florida. Can you 100% confirm that you never used slave-produced raw materials in your BLTs? https://ciw-online.org/blog/2007/12/no_slave_labor/
So do you think the US government lies, but the Chinese government doesnt? Or the US gov does nefarious things, but others don't?
Because if both do as much nefarious shit as can be gotten away with... you have to figure the country with less democracy, less free speech, and less diversity has the potential to get away with more devious shit.
So doesn't it logically follow they're doing as much as they can get away with? Or you think that isnt how government works?
Or you think that's only how the US government works, but not other ones?
FultzNationRISE
10-29-2021, 02:10 PM
Well, I promise you they won't. Enes himself is a huge Israel fan btw.
Funny how there's ~3x as many Uyghurs as Palestinians, but we get near daily video evidence of what is happening to Palestinians, and we don't from the Uyghurs. Maybe China is blocking all external communication for 13 million Uyghurs? If that was possible, don't you think Israel would try do the same? They're always bragging about their high tech industries. Maybe Palestinians are just better at hiding sim cards in their ass?
Israel doesn't have the kind of authority over its citizens to make that nearly as practical.
Not saying I know whether it's happening in China, or even care, but your argument is akin to saying "shouldnt the US government be blocking all external public contact through facebook and twitter and twitch if they wanna keep secrets? thats how China does it."
Western countries dont work that way. You can't just suppress public speech on a whim in US and Israel.
theman93
10-29-2021, 02:35 PM
lol, NOW you're willing to "connect the dots"?
When have I ever argued against connecting the dots? You're attacking a straw man.
Did you know that the Supreme Court just ruled that it's ok for U.S. corporations to use slave labor, so long as it's abroad?
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/17/supreme-court-rules-in-favor-of-nestle-in-child-slavery-case.html
And? Have I argued the Supreme Court is always correct in it's rulings? This means nothing as they have ruled in favor of many moral atrocities.
Here's what Nike actually said about this:
No large manufacturer in the world can deny that they use any raw materials from slave labor. First off, most companies have no way of knowing, and secondly, most products have a touch of slavery somewhere in the supply line.
Prove that companies have no way of knowing if they use slave labor. Is it not their responsibility to audit their supply chain ethics?
13 years ago we had slaves picking tomatoes in Florida. Can you 100% confirm that you never used slave-produced raw materials in your BLTs? https://ciw-online.org/blog/2007/12/no_slave_labor/
I don't eat tomatoes.
You're argument is all over the place and incohesive.
theman93
10-29-2021, 02:43 PM
Well, I promise you they won't. Enes himself is a huge Israel fan btw.
Funny how there's ~3x as many Uyghurs as Palestinians, but we get near daily video evidence of what is happening to Palestinians, and we don't from the Uyghurs. Maybe China is blocking all external communication for 13 million Uyghurs? If that was possible, don't you think Israel would try do the same? They're always bragging about their high tech industries. Maybe Palestinians are just better at hiding sim cards in their ass?
Have you considered that China suppresses it's citizens information in a way that Israel does not?
Have you researched the "Great Cannon"? What about the "Great Firewall of China"?
Sim cards. LOL.
ralph_i_el
10-29-2021, 04:10 PM
So do you think the US government lies, but the Chinese government doesnt? Or the US gov does nefarious things, but others don't?
Because if both do as much nefarious shit as can be gotten away with... you have to figure the country with less democracy, less free speech, and less diversity has the potential to get away with more devious shit.
So doesn't it logically follow they're doing as much as they can get away with? Or you think that isnt how government works?
Or you think that's only how the US government works, but not other ones?
The key question is, who does the government represents? In whose interests are they acting?
What do you know about democracy in China? They have elections, you just only have a choice between different communists. In America, you have a choice between different capitalists. In reality, it's not really a much wider range of choices. I'm about to choose between Terry McAuliffe and Glenn Youngkin lol. The only significant difference between them is abortion.
ralph_i_el
10-29-2021, 04:11 PM
Have you considered that China suppresses it's citizens information in a way that Israel does not?
Have you researched the "Great Cannon"? What about the "Great Firewall of China"?
Sim cards. LOL.
I've been to China. I hung out with Chinese kids. Teenagers were breaking the "great firewall" with ease. I'm still facebook friends with some of them.
Israel literally has blown up newspaper offices with jets. If they could cut Palestine off from the rest of the internet, they would.
People can get plenty of digital information out of China. If 2 million people were in camps, we would have more solid evidence. Of course, now the US claims it's a few hundred thousands now, not millions. By this time next year the folks who still believe this will be claiming a few thousand.
Zenz claims he has flash drives full of incriminating documents from an unverifiable source. They could get leaked communist party documents out, but nobody has a camera phone to show some atrocities? Does this seem likely to you?
ralph_i_el
10-29-2021, 04:12 PM
When have I ever argued against connecting the dots? You're attacking a straw man.
And? Have I argued the Supreme Court is always correct in it's rulings? This means nothing as they have ruled in favor of many moral atrocities.
Prove that companies have no way of knowing if they use slave labor. Is it not their responsibility to audit their supply chain ethics?
I don't eat tomatoes.
You're argument is all over the place and incohesive.
Suits the accusations perfectly. Frankly, I don't read Chinese, and none of you do either. I'm just trying to demonstrate that what you "know" is almost entirely propaganda and spin. I'm more worried about the human rights abuses my own government is perpetrating than what China does. China hasn't invaded anyone in my lifetime. China isn't leveling cities and drone striking civilians. China isn't running torture sites on foreign territory. They aren't funding terror cells all over the world. I say, leave them alone.
Mr. Woke
10-29-2021, 04:16 PM
Yes you did you dope.
First you said:
Then you had a problem with this:
If you can pick your social justice issues then you shouldnÂ’t have a problem with the US saying it cares about Muslims in China, but not caring about Muslims in the Middle East.
Like all the other woke idiots, your position is inconsistent and illogical.
Your reading comprehension sucks.
Anti-wokesters are disingenuous liars. People like you are pure scum.
FultzNationRISE
10-29-2021, 04:54 PM
The key question is, who does the government represents? In whose interests are they acting?
What do you know about democracy in China? They have elections, you just only have a choice between different communists. In America, you have a choice between different capitalists. In reality, it's not really a much wider range of choices. I'm about to choose between Terry McAuliffe and Glenn Youngkin lol. The only significant difference between them is abortion.
That wasnt the key question. That’s just the one you chose to ask and answer.
MY question is do you believe the Chinese government is doing equally nefarious things to what you claim the US and Israel are doing?
My assumption is that any government is doing as much as it can get away with. I would think places with more censorship, more conformity, less diversity, less political correctness would be capable of getting away with more.
Youve always struck me as a calculated, disingenuous propagandist rather than the kind of pure ignorant simpleton a guy pike rr3 is. You give only the kind of anti-establishment lines someone like Soros would fund and approve (america is awful, so corrupt, so terrible) but anything the establishment wants you to tow the line on for the sake of its bottom line (covid is scary, trump is scary, refugees are welcome, blm is legitimate etc) youre always in line. Like I cant think of any position youve ever taken that wouldnt be exactly what a manipulative oligarch would want the public to hear.
This thread reeks of Ralphiel having relatives in DC who make a lot of money doing business with China.
Hey, all good. Like I said, I dont care what goes on in China. Shit aint my bidness. But the fact youre quick to condemn US and Israel but reluctant to suspect China is just... bizarre, but entirely fitting with whom we know you to be.
ralph_i_el
10-29-2021, 05:11 PM
My relatives in DC made lots of money selling weapons to the US. My portfolio would look pretty good (short term) if WW3 started.
I don't think there's a government in the top tier of nations that is more nefarious than the US. My opinion is partially informed by knowing intelligence agents and military industrial types personally. I've been around these folks my entire life.
Also LOL at insinuating I'm some George Soros globalist. Wouldn't I love Israel? China is one of the few countries with any plan to counteract the negative impacts of globalism on their population.
more censorship, more conformity, less diversity, less political correctness
The most effective censorship is the censorship you never even notice. Our "free" media goes directly into lockstep when the intelligence community wants them to. Bob Woodward is a CIA plant and they set Nixon up lol.
China is very ethnically diverse. Not my fault you think they're all the same.
China is less PC? Isn't that good? You're not a fan of that?
No need to get personal. I am what I am, you can like it or love it.
https://c.tenor.com/MsB5WzQLdoQAAAAM/50cent-laughing.gif
FultzNationRISE
10-29-2021, 05:21 PM
My relatives in DC made lots of money selling weapons to the US. My portfolio would look pretty good (short term) if WW3 started.
I don't think there's a government in the top tier of nations that is more nefarious than the US. My opinion is partially informed by knowing intelligence agents and military industrial types personally. I've been around these folks my entire life.
Also LOL at insinuating I'm some George Soros globalist. Wouldn't I love Israel? China is one of the few countries with any plan to counteract the negative impacts of globalism on their population.
The most effective censorship is the censorship you never even notice. Our "free" media goes directly into lockstep when the intelligence community wants them to.
China is very ethnically diverse. Not my fault you think they're all the same.
China is less PC? Isn't that good? You're not a fan of that?
You think Soros is Israel-friendly... because he’s jewish? Grassroots Israelis hate Soros, because hes one of the wealthy globalists constantly funding far left initiatives in the country to divide it and make it more profitable to his own long term interests.
Guys like him dont want proud, patriotic populations in the US or Israel. Just as you dont seem to. Because those arent the ones who need or want the “benevolence” of phony, greedy globalist bankers and the corporations they control.
ralph_i_el
10-29-2021, 05:24 PM
Why, because Soros is jewish? Grassroots Israelis hate Soros, because hes one of the wealthy globalists constantly funding far left initiatives in the country to divide it and make it more profitable to his own long term interests.
Guys like him dont want proud, patriotic populations in the US or Israel. Just as you dont seem to. Because those arent the ones who need or want the “benevolence” of phony, greedy globalist bankers and the corporations they control.
That's what most folks online mean when they say "globalist". Sorry for assuming.
Patriotism can be good, or bad. Do you agree?
You're quick on your feet Fultz, I like that. I miss doing Model UN as a kid. Sometimes I just argue to argue.
ralph_i_el
10-29-2021, 05:40 PM
anything the establishment wants you to tow the line on for the sake of its bottom line (covid is scary, trump is scary, refugees are welcome, blm is legitimate etc) youre always in line.
This is generalization to the point of inanity.
FultzNationRISE
10-29-2021, 05:42 PM
That's what most folks online mean when they say "globalist". Sorry for assuming.
Patriotism can be good, or bad. Do you agree?
You're quick on your feet Fultz, I like that. I miss doing Model UN as a kid. Sometimes I just argue to argue.
It’s not about good or bad to me, it’s about necessary or unnecessary and I believe it’s necessary. A team always achieves more than an individual (except in Lebron’s case). We enjoy the best standard of living in the world and it aint because history was all red wine and roses. And NOBODY IN AMERICA would change that. People who tout equality while LIVING exceptionally are lying to themselves. Normally I wouldnt care what someone tells themself at night, but in the case of politics it could end up jeopardizing things for all of us.
That said, on a personal level, I’m confident Ill be fine. But I think some of the things about the future that our kids may have to put up with is a real shame.
theman93
10-29-2021, 05:56 PM
Suits the accusations perfectly. Frankly, I don't read Chinese, and none of you do either. I'm just trying to demonstrate that what you "know" is almost entirely propaganda and spin. I'm more worried about the human rights abuses my own government is perpetrating than what China does. China hasn't invaded anyone in my lifetime. China isn't leveling cities and drone striking civilians. China isn't running torture sites on foreign territory. They aren't funding terror cells all over the world. I say, leave them alone.
Who says you need to be able to read Chinese to know what’s going on? There are satellite images of these camps being built with personal testimony after personal testimony of what takes place there. The Australian report is just fuel to the fire.
Which part of this report is false?: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/meghara/china-new-internment-camps-xinjiang-uighurs-muslims
ralph_i_el
10-29-2021, 06:01 PM
I agree with all of that.
I think our "best standard of living in the world" is seriously at risk. Not just in terms of our standing compared to other nations, but in our society domestically. I think a lot of our institutions and infrastructure just suck the life out of people. I think there are a lot of influential folks who think that starting a war and winning is the way to right the ship.
ralph_i_el
10-29-2021, 06:21 PM
Who says you need to be able to read Chinese to know what’s going on? There are satellite images of these camps being built with personal testimony after personal testimony of what takes place there. The Australian report is just fuel to the fire.
Which part of this report is false?: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/meghara/china-new-internment-camps-xinjiang-uighurs-muslims
Well a lot of it is "China built jails", which is really scary until you look up how many jails (over 7000!) we built in our free and civilized country. It's all about anecdotes and spin, read it closely. If you follow the actual hard sources you get to .pdfs of Chinese documents, or Adrien Zenz.
Also, China just builds entire cities that they won't need for years, and let's them sit empty. They said SEVERAL of the facilities COULD hold 10k people (so smaller than a federal penitentiary in the US). They don't give enough clear and specific information for you to estimate how many people these facilities could hold altogether, and how many of them are actually being used.
None of it is necessarily outright a lie. It's just spin, and it's sold without any mention of the huge rash of terrorist attacks by Muslim extremists in the years proceeding it. That might be an important piece of information to understanding it...but Buzzfeed didn't choose to include it. They did make sure to mention that they were locking up "peaceful people".
They use "terror" or "terrorism" 3 times, only when they are quoting Chinese officials, and make no attempt to give context.
FultzNationRISE
10-29-2021, 06:47 PM
I agree with all of that.
I think our "best standard of living in the world" is seriously at risk. Not just in terms of our standing compared to other nations, but in our society domestically. I think a lot of our institutions and infrastructure just suck the life out of people. I think there are a lot of influential folks who think that starting a war and winning is the way to right the ship.
I mean most people who live in the suburbs work corporate whatever jobs they dont love, just so they can afford huge mortgage and property tax costs, all for the sake of getting away from the nonsense youve gotta put up with in many parts of any given city.
Funny thing is most of em complain about their jobs, complain about the hours, complain about cost of living... yet theyre all bleeding heart Democrats, but are these long hours and boring jobs so they can afford to live in a safe, clean, exclusive part of the city. And then you ask em offhandedly “man, have you seen all the bums downtown?” And they scream at you for being a heartless bigot, then call you hitler, blah blah blah.
Self awareness levels at ZERO with these people.
Just like the top 20% produce the most... the bottom 20% cost the most. Well, if nobody wants to do anything about the clutter, then go ahead and keep working all those corporate hours just so you can afford to squeeze into an expensive part of town and avoid the riff raff. Cuz thats really the only reason people still do it. Unless you live in a city immediately on the coast, any part of town is geographically the same as any other. People choose where to live based on WHOM they want to live around. And we give so much prime real estate in every city to schizophrenic heroin addicts. I mean sure it’s fine to try to help them... but how bout send them out to facilities in the middle of nowhere and let normal people spread out a lil more in the city and not have to work so hard to pay so much?
Bc if theres harmony like that, people are gonna realize how little they need Big Finance and how easy it is to collectively eschew them. Instead we all gotta work our asses off to have enough to live away from the needle and feces filled parks, and the refugee centers.
Terrific.
FultzNationRISE
10-29-2021, 06:52 PM
And ofc it’s easy for people with resources at the top to target self loathing shmucks at the bottom like itsmilletime, realmenweargren, rr3 etc and turn em into belligerent SJW cucks in order to feel like they “matter” and put them at odds with other normal members of their own community.
It’s basically the wolf enlisting the sheep to help him make dinner, and the sheep arent smart enough to figure out what’s on the menu...
ralph_i_el
10-29-2021, 07:09 PM
I think there's a lot more to it than that.
What do you think caused so many "schizophrenic heroin addicts"?
outofstomach
10-29-2021, 07:25 PM
I mean most people who live in the suburbs work corporate whatever jobs they dont love, just so they can afford huge mortgage and property tax costs, all for the sake of getting away from the nonsense youve gotta put up with in many parts of any given city.
Funny thing is most of em complain about their jobs, complain about the hours, complain about cost of living... yet theyre all bleeding heart Democrats, but are these long hours and boring jobs so they can afford to live in a safe, clean, exclusive part of the city. And then you ask em offhandedly “man, have you seen all the bums downtown?” And they scream at you for being a heartless bigot, then call you hitler, blah blah blah.
Self awareness levels at ZERO with these people.
Just like the top 20% produce the most... the bottom 20% cost the most. Well, if nobody wants to do anything about the clutter, then go ahead and keep working all those corporate hours just so you can afford to squeeze into an expensive part of town and avoid the riff raff. Cuz thats really the only reason people still do it. Unless you live in a city immediately on the coast, any part of town is geographically the same as any other. People choose where to live based on WHOM they want to live around. And we give so much prime real estate in every city to schizophrenic heroin addicts. I mean sure it’s fine to try to help them... but how bout send them out to facilities in the middle of nowhere and let normal people spread out a lil more in the city and not have to work so hard to pay so much?
Bc if theres harmony like that, people are gonna realize how little they need Big Finance and how easy it is to collectively eschew them. Instead we all gotta work our asses off to have enough to live away from the needle and feces filled parks, and the refugee centers.
Terrific.
you do realize that those same people you’re touting as the creme de la creme of society are prone to drug usage too since they’re working these soulless, pitiful jobs? sending the addicts away to some “facility” off somewhere isn’t going to solve any problems whatsoever, you’re treating a symptom of something sinisterly looming. those addicts aren’t any less human than you or i, they simply just choose to get through reality through different means, which is exactly why they deserve to be rehabbed and assisted with being integrated into society rather than cast aside like some mutt.
outofstomach
10-29-2021, 07:31 PM
not to even mention how good ol’ pharma hands opiates and other forms of drugs out like candy to make money too. not everyone is just hopping on drugs for shits and giggles :lol
ArbitraryWater
10-29-2021, 07:33 PM
Enes cares so much about a conspiracy theory with little evidence backing it up....
then he goes and acts as a huge supporter of Israel, when we have evidence of their genocide on tape every single day.
If you fall for this, you are a moron. :facepalm The US has already backtracked on all their claims about Xinjiang.
Lmao at this nikka somehow turning Enes into a negative here
You have no shame
ArbitraryWater
10-29-2021, 07:43 PM
He's made all the money he ever needs to make and he's not getting any huge contracts going forward. He is in a no risk situation other than potentially being abducted randomly somewhere in an airport or something.
And he continues to wear the products (jersey + shorts aside) from the very company and country he is speaking out against.
This would be like eating a bucket of KFC while yelling about how poorly the chickens are treated.
It is virtue signaling to the maximum and you're a ****ing idiot for not seeing it.
how could you have a problem with this when he's being as transparent as possible about his dislike for them?
FultzNationRISE
10-29-2021, 07:59 PM
you do realize that those same people you’re touting as the creme de la creme of society are prone to drug usage too since they’re working these soulless, pitiful jobs? sending the addicts away to some “facility” off somewhere isn’t going to solve any problems whatsoever, you’re treating a symptom of something sinisterly looming. those addicts aren’t any less human than you or i, they simply just choose to get through reality through different means, which is exactly why they deserve to be rehabbed and assisted with being integrated into society rather than cast aside like some mutt.
Thats fine, just dont complain about cost of living, work hours, debt etc.
Theres TONS of cheap real estate out there. But typical leftists go into debt trying to live above their means in exclusive areas, rather than live side by side with the crackheads and car jackers in gritty parts of town. Even tho theyll sit there and TELL YOU those are their equals :lol
If you wanna give people nice big tracts of the city to litter on and fall asleep on the sidewalk... thats fine. Just dont complain about being “squeezed.” If you dont have the balls to kick undesirables out of desirable areas while you watch your rent keep going up, so be it.
Heres the truth yo: People at the top have balls. Thats how they get there. People who dont have balls have to tell themselves “well its ok I dont have balls, bc blah blah blah” and convince themselves its a virtue NOT to have balls.
Cope city.
So... why doesnt everyone have balls? Cuz you can only go around acting like you have balls if you really have balls. If you take a risk that requires balls but you dont actually have the balls to back it up, youre gonna fall on your face and eat shit. Ya know what I mean? It aint easy being cheesy. Why do you think Lebron WROTE that beautiful magnum opus of his, “It Aint Easy”?? Because shit aint easy!
So if you dont have balls, you gotta find a way to GET balls. Because amigo, if you gotta live a life where you tell yourself “I dont really have balls, but thats ok because....”
You might as well just tap out rn.
ralph_i_el
10-30-2021, 06:22 AM
If I told you I bought a house in the barrio, you'd call me a gentrifier. Can't win lol
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