LeGOAT falling in the all time PPG rankings.

[ClipperRevival]

KD just passed him at 27.02 to Bron's 26.99. We all know, there will be even greater separation between the 2 when it's all said and done.

How much further will LeGOAT fall?

Iverson 26.66
Pettit 26.36

So if our GOAT plays long enough, he might end up being 9th in all time PPG while holding the all time total points record. Our era's Pete Rose. :applause:

[StrongLurk]

Seething indeed.

[ELITEpower23]

Imagine looking at ppg :oldlol:

7,631
Next

[Pip' N Rodman]

Nice one OP, now tell me when Bron gets surpassed on All-Time Playoff and Regular Season Points :lol


And update the PPG stats once Durant completes his 19th season as well

[Bronbron23]

Imagine looking at ppg :oldlol:

7,631
Next

Imagine looking at totals. Carmelo is top 10 all time according to yall idiots. Ppg is a much better measure of scoring ability.

[Pip' N Rodman]

Imagine looking at totals. Carmelo is top 10 all time according to yall idiots. Ppg is a much better measure of scoring ability.

Nice.. Iverson is a better playoff scorer than LeBron and Durant then.. idiot :oldlol:

[ELITEpower23]

Imagine looking at totals. Carmelo is top 10 all time according to yall idiots. Ppg is a much better measure of scoring ability.

Playoffs? Thanks

[8Ball]

1 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 38,387
2 Karl Malone 36,928
3 LeBRON JAMES 35,471
4 Kobe Bryant 33,643
5 Michael Jordan 32,292
6 Dirk Nowitzki 31,560
7 Wilt Chamberlain 31,419
8 Shaquille O'Neal 28,596
9 CARMELO ANTHONY 27,464
10 Moses Malone 27,409
11 Elvin Hayes 27,313
12 Hakeem Olajuwon 26,946
13 Oscar Robertson 26,710
14 Dominique Wilkins 26,668
15 Tim Duncan 26,496
16 Paul Pierce 26,397
17 John Havlicek 26,395
18 Kevin Garnett 26,071
19 Vince Carter 25,728
20 Alex English 25,613
21 Reggie Miller 25,279
22 Jerry West 25,192
23 Patrick Ewing 24,815
24 Ray Allen 24,505
25 Allen Iverson 24,368



I don't see KD anywhere.

[8Ball]

Playoffs:

1. LeBron James 7631
2. Michael Jordan* 5987
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 5762
4. Kobe Bryant* 5640
5. Shaquille O'Neal* 5250
6. Tim Duncan* 5172
7. Karl Malone* 4761
8. Julius Erving* 4580
9. Jerry West* 4457

10. Kevin Durant 4454


Still a long ways to go. Yawn.

[SouBeachTalents]

I guess he'll have to settle for being the all time scoring leader and "only" 9th, at worst, in ppg. If LeBron does break the scoring record, he'll join the ranks of the other all time leaders in their sport, Brady & Gretzky, guys who just happen to be considered the GOAT of their sport.

[Kobe_Bryant]

totals and career ppg are mostly health or situational things. you get one by taking steroids or the other by entering the league on a shit team.

had jordan gone to a contender he averages 20 points his first few years instead of 30 or so.

lebron went to a crap franchise too.


the real test of one's ability to score is just watching them play aka the eye test and we know lebron is absolute shit from mid range and free throws with no post game or foot work. hes a bully and scored 70% of his points within 5 feet of the rim. he's a fraud

jordan is one of the best ever at scoring with all the skills in the book aside from deep range

and I did everything jordan could do from farther but sacrificed efficiency for more difficult shot making ability


at the end of the day lebron was dominant at scoring but he wasn't very skilled at it.

so he's not on Jordan's level and when I'm in the zone nobodies better than I was

[Airupthere]

Imagine thinking KD is not one of the best scorers we have seen.just because his totals did not accumulate. Ffs, people need to watch the game and not the record books.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Playoffs:

1. LeBron James 7631
2. Michael Jordan* 5987
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 5762
4. Kobe Bryant* 5640
5. Shaquille O'Neal* 5250
6. Tim Duncan* 5172
7. Karl Malone* 4761
8. Julius Erving* 4580
9. Jerry West* 4457

10. Kevin Durant 4454


Still a long ways to go. Yawn.

all this says to me is

STEROIDS+EAST

the end

[Kobe_Bryant]

Imagine thinking KD is not one of the best scorers we have seen.just because his totals did not accumulate. Ffs, people need to watch the game and not the record books.

this ^

me, KD, bird, jordan.. thats who I think of as the most skilled ever at scoring

I dont care what numbers say

[Pip' N Rodman]

this ^

me, KD, bird, jordan.. thats who I think of as the most skilled ever at scoring

I dont care what numbers say

You were 24.9ppg on 44.7% FG, any NBA player can average 24.9ppg if they were allowed to shoot sub 45%

[ClipperRevival]

Playoffs? Thanks

Finals record? Jason Terry? Record blowout losses? Number of FMVP given to direct assignment?

Thanks.

[ClipperRevival]

1 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 38,387
2 Karl Malone 36,928
3 LeBRON JAMES 35,471
4 Kobe Bryant 33,643
5 Michael Jordan 32,292
6 Dirk Nowitzki 31,560
7 Wilt Chamberlain 31,419
8 Shaquille O'Neal 28,596
9 CARMELO ANTHONY 27,464
10 Moses Malone 27,409
11 Elvin Hayes 27,313
12 Hakeem Olajuwon 26,946
13 Oscar Robertson 26,710
14 Dominique Wilkins 26,668
15 Tim Duncan 26,496
16 Paul Pierce 26,397
17 John Havlicek 26,395
18 Kevin Garnett 26,071
19 Vince Carter 25,728
20 Alex English 25,613
21 Reggie Miller 25,279
22 Jerry West 25,192
23 Patrick Ewing 24,815
24 Ray Allen 24,505
25 Allen Iverson 24,368



I don't see KD anywhere.

Confirming our era's Pete Rose. Thanks

:applause:

[Pip' N Rodman]

Its ok OP, Scoring was the only thing Jordan was above-average in and LeBron still surpassed him in that

If Jordan ended up with more total rebounds and assists than LeBron while still scoring like he did I would be upset as well :lol

[ClipperRevival]

Another thing to keep tabs of. Will AD surpass LeGOAT as #2 all time in career PER?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/per_career.html

[Pip' N Rodman]

Will OP update this thread once KD's and AD's careers are over or they play 19 seasons also? I doubt it :lol

[Bronbron23]

Nice.. Iverson is a better playoff scorer than LeBron and Durant then.. idiot :oldlol:

Iverson is as good of a scorer as almost anyone in his prime. He played enough years that His ppg is indicative of that. Neither is perfect but ppg is a better measure of scoring ability. That's why it's always been the main measure. Yall bron stans have tried to change it to totals because u know bron has no chance when it comes to ppg.

[8Ball]

Nice.. Iverson is a better playoff scorer than LeBron and Durant then.. idiot :oldlol:

Bronbron23 is just another garden variety low IQ poster.

[8Ball]

Iverson is as good of a scorer as almost anyone in his prime. He played enough years that His ppg is indicative of that. Neither is perfect but ppg is a better measure of scoring ability. That's why it's always been the main measure. Yall bron stans have tried to change it to totals because u know bron has no chance when it comes to ppg.

The last 20 scoring leaders (ppg) have not won the championship the year they won the scoring title.


Bron stans understand basketball.

[Axe]

Ppg all over again huh? :(

[Bronbron23]

The last 20 scoring leaders (ppg) have not won the championship the year they won the scoring title.


Bron stans understand basketball.

Not sure what that proves. I didn't say it was a better indicator of the better player just that it's a better indicator of scoring.

[Full Court]

Imagine looking at ppg :oldlol:

7,631
Next

Imagine being so brain dead that you think cumulative points is more meaningful than PPG.

[Kobe_Bryant]

You were 24.9ppg on 44.7% FG, any NBA player can average 24.9ppg if they were allowed to shoot sub 45%

minus forced 6th man years or achilles injuries my career average is 27.4ppg on 46% all with more 60/70/80 point games than anyone except wilt and more 40/50 point games than anyone except wilt and MJ

[Kobe_Bryant]

1. Michael Jordan* 30.12
2. Wilt Chamberlain* 30.07
3. (Myself) Kobe Bryant 27.40
4. Elgin Baylor* 27.36
5. Jerry West* 27.03
6. Kevin Durant 27.02
7. LeBron James 26.99
8. Allen Iverson* 26.66
9. Bob Pettit* 26.36
10. George Gervin* 26.18


the real top 10 all time scorers had i not skipped college and tore my achilles

[Pip' N Rodman]

1. Michael Jordan* 30.12
2. Wilt Chamberlain* 30.07
3. (Myself) Kobe Bryant 27.40
4. Elgin Baylor* 27.36
5. Jerry West* 27.03
6. Kevin Durant 27.02
7. LeBron James 26.99
8. Allen Iverson* 26.66
9. Bob Pettit* 26.36
10. George Gervin* 26.18


the real top 10 all time scorers had i not skipped college and tore my achilles

What if you remove LeBron's rookie 18 year old season and post 35 year old seasons?

[Kobe_Bryant]

What if you remove LeBron's rookie 18 year old season and post 35 year old seasons?

did he ever come off the bench or rip his achilles. nope hes had all the shots hes ever wanted and never had a single major injury lmao

you lose

[3ba11]

I guess he'll have to settle for being the all time scoring leader and "only" 9th, at worst, in ppg. If LeBron does break the scoring record, he'll join the ranks of the other all time leaders in their sport, Brady & Gretzky, guys who just happen to be considered the GOAT of their sport.


The problem is that Lebron's high scoring games require the entire game to slow to a crawl and devolve into this simpleton 1-4 set where Lebron is dribbling the entire time - this is a low-caliber of scoring skill.. Superior scorers have elite jumpshooting skill and therefore can score a lot while the ball moves (and therefore win with high scoring at the highest level or comp).. But Lebron lacks these fundamentals, so he can't win with high scoring, which makes him a shit scorer... He's probably the worst scorer ever if we're talking points per dribble.. His completely shit brand of basketball needs super-team talent to win - a weak brand requires more talent.. hoops 101

[Pip' N Rodman]

The problem is that Lebron's high scoring games require the entire game to slow to a crawl and devolve into this simpleton 1-4 set where Lebron is dribbling the entire time - this is a low-caliber of scoring skill.. Superior scorers have elite jumpshooting skill and therefore can score a lot while the ball moves (and therefore win with high scoring at the highest level or comp).. But Lebron lacks these fundamentals, so he can't win with high scoring, which makes him a shit scorer... He's probably the worst scorer ever if we're talking points per dribble.. His completely shit brand of basketball needs super-team talent to win - a weak brand requires more talent.. hoops 101

I would agree with you but LeBron already won without any all-star teammates in 2016, so that disproves that he needed a superteam to win

[SouBeachTalents]

The problem is that Lebron's high scoring games require the entire game to slow to a crawl and devolve into this simpleton 1-4 set where Lebron is dribbling the entire time - this is a low-caliber of scoring skill.. Superior scorers have elite jumpshooting skill and therefore can score a lot while the ball moves (and therefore win with high scoring at the highest level or comp).. But Lebron lacks these fundamentals, so he can't win with high scoring, which makes him a shit scorer... He's probably the worst scorer ever if we're talking points per dribble.. His completely shit brand of basketball needs super-team talent to win - a weak brand requires more talent.. hoops 101
He's averaged between 26-30 ppg in the playoffs during his title runs, he's had Finals wins averaging 29, 30 & 30 ppg. Your claims are factually untrue, those are high scoring numbers by virtually any standard.

The greatest irony is he uses this criteria to paint LeBron as some pedestrian scorer for an ATG, yet the two guys he has in his top 5, Kobe & Bird, weren't even their teams leading scorer for the majority of their Finals :oldlol:

[SouBeachTalents]

Here are Bird's playoff scoring numbers

'81 PO: 22 ppg
'81 F: 15 ppg, 2nd in scoring

'84 PO: 28 ppg
'84 F: 27 ppg

'86 PO: 26 ppg
'86 F: 24 ppg, 2nd in scoring

He's even worse than LeBron in this criteria, yet you still have him top 3. It's just ludicrous hypocrisy :lol

[ELITEpower23]

Playoffs:

1. LeBron James 7631
2. Michael Jordan* 5987
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 5762
4. Kobe Bryant* 5640
5. Shaquille O'Neal* 5250
6. Tim Duncan* 5172
7. Karl Malone* 4761
8. Julius Erving* 4580
9. Jerry West* 4457

10. Kevin Durant 4454


Still a long ways to go. Yawn.

8ball = The closer

Always shutting shit down.

[999Guy]

Were you waiting for someone to care as much as you?

You should’ve just said you’re happy instead of actually believing this matters.

****ing Iverson top 5 all-time in PPG. Goat stat.

[ClipperRevival]

Reg season:

KD 27.02
LJ 26.99

Playoffs:

KD 29.50
LJ 28.69

On top of KD with 2 FMVP over Bron? Bron fans love them Ls.

:yaohappy:

[3ba11]

He's averaged between 26-30 ppg in the playoffs during his title runs, he's had Finals wins averaging 29, 30 & 30 ppg. Your claims are factually untrue, those are high scoring numbers by virtually any standard.

The greatest irony is he uses this criteria to paint LeBron as some pedestrian scorer for an ATG, yet the two guys he has in his top 5, Kobe & Bird, weren't even their teams leading scorer for the majority of their Finals :oldlol:


26-30 ppg was pathetically-low for Jordan - completely unacceptable and he wouldn't have a single ring with those shit numbers.

And Lebron has Westbrooking scoring skill - horrific brand of ball that could never have a carry-job in the Finals (always needed teammate to nearly match his scoring) and could never beat a good team with teammates playing poorly (zero wins against top 5 SRS with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick).

Otoh, Bird and Kobe's scoring skill was sufficient to have winning records in the Finals and carry-jobs in the Finals - they had elite jumpshooting skill so their high scoring games occurred with a good/winnable brand of ball.. Lebron isn't anywhere near them as scorers because if they doubled their time of possession and played that Harden/Lebron/Westbrook style, they would average at least 40

[SouBeachTalents]

26-30 ppg was pathetically-low for Jordan - completely unacceptable and he wouldn't have a single ring with those shit numbers.

And Lebron has Westbrooking scoring skill - horrific brand of ball that could never have a carry-job in the Finals (always needed teammate to nearly match his scoring) and could never beat a good team with teammates playing poorly (zero wins against top 5 SRS with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick).

Otoh, Bird and Kobe's scoring skill was sufficient to have winning records in the Finals and carry-jobs in the Finals - they had elite jumpshooting skill so their high scoring games occurred with a good/winnable brand of ball.. Lebron isn't anywhere near them as scorers because if they doubled their time of possession and played that Harden/Lebron/Westbrook style, they would average at least 40
I'll repeat, Bird & Kobe literally didn't even lead their teams in scoring for the majority of their Finals :lol LeBron has more titles as his teams leading scorer in the Finals than the two of them have combined, not to mention higher ppg averages in the playoffs & Finals than either of them.

[dankok8]

To be fair Lebron being "just" a top 10 all time scorer doesn't diminish him.

[ELITEpower23]

Reg season:

KD 27.02
LJ 26.99

Playoffs:

KD 29.50
LJ 28.69

On top of KD with 2 FMVP over Bron? Bron fans love them Ls.

:yaohappy:


https://i.postimg.cc/DzKb4wNF/good_luck_kelvin.png


https://i.postimg.cc/Jhm4wx2h/NO9KDK_facebook.gif

[ClipperRevival]

26-30 ppg was pathetically-low for Jordan - completely unacceptable and he wouldn't have a single ring with those shit numbers.

And Lebron has Westbrooking scoring skill - horrific brand of ball that could never have a carry-job in the Finals (always needed teammate to nearly match his scoring) and could never beat a good team with teammates playing poorly (zero wins against top 5 SRS with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick).

Otoh, Bird and Kobe's scoring skill was sufficient to have winning records in the Finals and carry-jobs in the Finals - they had elite jumpshooting skill so their high scoring games occurred with a good/winnable brand of ball.. Lebron isn't anywhere near them as scorers because if they doubled their time of possession and played that Harden/Lebron/Westbrook style, they would average at least 40

Indeed.

Let us not get bothered with mere mortals.

Reg season: 30.1
Playoffs: 33.4
Finals: 33.6

LEVELS

[ELITEpower23]

Indeed.

Let us not get bothered with mere mortals.

Reg season: 30.1
Playoffs: 33.4
Finals: 33.6

LEVELS

Quite, quite.

https://i.postimg.cc/k50RjLf5/MJ_was_a_fraud_big_time.png

LEVELS

[ClipperRevival]

Indeed.

Most career turnovers reg season AND playoffs. Only one.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/tov_career.html

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/tov_career_p.html

LEVELS

[ELITEpower23]

Don't be scared

https://i.postimg.cc/8c8k2yTQ/7631_Forever_Goat.png

[ClipperRevival]

https://i.postimg.cc/DzKb4wNF/good_luck_kelvin.png


https://i.postimg.cc/Jhm4wx2h/NO9KDK_facebook.gif

With that logic.

Pete Rose > Ruth, Williams, Bonds.

:yaohappy:

[ELITEpower23]

With that logic.

Pete Rose > Ruth, Williams, Bonds.

:yaohappy:

You know they're SHOOK when they change sports mid argument :oldlol:

[ClipperRevival]

You know they're SHOOK when they change sports mid argument :oldlol:

You know they're shook when they keep focusing on longevity stats over actual dominance and WINNING.

:lebronamazed:

[Pip' N Rodman]

https://i.postimg.cc/DzKb4wNF/good_luck_kelvin.png


https://i.postimg.cc/Jhm4wx2h/NO9KDK_facebook.gif

Holy :eek:

OP gonna get NO sleep tonight

[ELITEpower23]

You know they're shook when they keep focusing on longevity stats over actual dominance and WINNING.

:lebronamazed:

https://i.postimg.cc/mDLxRwvL/EACH_one._LBJ_beats_MJ.png

https://media.giphy.com/media/NENOgw8mgH0NW/giphy.gif

[ClipperRevival]

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/lY0AAOSwXetZTIjh/s-l400.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/04/a7/5f/04a75f043d6ed28d2e433c7216c3828c.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8Hc5USWYAkL-9u.jpg:large

https://staticg.sportskeeda.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/kawhi-leonard-1402926516.jpg

[ClipperRevival]

https://i2.wp.com/sanantonioreport.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/GettyImages-74633216.jpg?fit=594%2C396&ssl=1

https://www.basketballnetwork.net/app/uploads/2019/05/Jason-Terry.jpg

https://nationalbasketblogassociation.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/arroyo.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BytJFJDIEAEJyeg.png

[Pip' N Rodman]

https://theundefeated.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/JohnRogers.jpg

https://fadeawayworld.net/.image/ar_16:9%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_au to:good%2Cw_1200/MTgwMTMyOTg3NTYzNDE4NzQ2/the-time-michael-jordan-lost-a-one-on-one-game-against-a-45-year-old-mutual-fund-ceo.jpg

[ImKobe]

https://i.postimg.cc/mDLxRwvL/EACH_one._LBJ_beats_MJ.png

https://media.giphy.com/media/NENOgw8mgH0NW/giphy.gif

Means that MJ played in the tougher era where there were more contenders and he annihilated them all in the Finals, which is why their net efficiency is lower as well. Lebron lost 5 of those 8 Finals so he helped his opponents' net efficiency numbers quite a bit, especially when he got blown out by historic numbers/swept in many of those series.

[ClipperRevival]

https://theundefeated.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/JohnRogers.jpg

https://fadeawayworld.net/.image/ar_16:9%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_au to:good%2Cw_1200/MTgwMTMyOTg3NTYzNDE4NzQ2/the-time-michael-jordan-lost-a-one-on-one-game-against-a-45-year-old-mutual-fund-ceo.jpg

https://c.tenor.com/eAt5EfLNIuEAAAAC/joaquin-phoenix-commodus.gif

[ClipperRevival]

Means that MJ played in the tougher era where there were more contenders and he annihilated them all in the Finals, which is why their net efficiency is lower as well. Lebron lost 5 of those 8 Finals so he helped his opponents' net efficiency numbers quite a bit, especially when he got blown out by historic numbers/swept in many of those series.

https://c.tenor.com/yNGAf-yehfYAAAAC/elections-obama.gif

[SATAN]

Durant is a shot jacking ball hog that desperately wants to outdo LeBron every season. It's actually sad.

[1987_Lakers]

Durant is a shot jacking ball hog that desperately wants to outdo LeBron every season. It's actually sad.

Durant is a bad man, but you could tell he wants fans/media to look at him at the same/higher level than LeBron, which isn't the case, even after 2017 he was upset about media still claiming LeBron was the better player, there is some jealousy there.

[Phoenix]

totals and career ppg are mostly health or situational things. you get one by taking steroids or the other by entering the league on a shit team.

had jordan gone to a contender he averages 20 points his first few years instead of 30 or so.

lebron went to a crap franchise too.


the real test of one's ability to score is just watching them play aka the eye test and we know lebron is absolute shit from mid range and free throws with no post game or foot work. hes a bully and scored 70% of his points within 5 feet of the rim. he's a fraud

jordan is one of the best ever at scoring with all the skills in the book aside from deep range

and I did everything jordan could do from farther but sacrificed efficiency for more difficult shot making ability


at the end of the day lebron was dominant at scoring but he wasn't very skilled at it.

so he's not on Jordan's level and when I'm in the zone nobodies better than I was

So you're a low IQ idiot?

[Spurs m8]

Ppg > Longevity totals

And it's not even close

But everyone who isn't bron stan knows this

Always moving the goal posts to suit their agendas lmao

[Spurs m8]

Still amazed Jordan got such numbers without the common 3 point shot, the spacing that comes with that and playing in a league with real d.

Oh...and no collusion and team hopping

[ELITEpower23]

Ppg > Longevity totals

And it's not even close

But everyone who isn't bron stan knows this

Always moving the goal posts to suit their agendas lmao
Longevity when MJ played 13 playoff runs and LBJ passed his points in 12? :oldlol:

MJ's 1-9 failures followed by losing to Detroit 3 years in a row ala Derozan to LeBronto is what hurt him.

Sorry baby boi

[ELITEpower23]

https://i.postimg.cc/k50RjLf5/MJ_was_a_fraud_big_time.png

Rebuttal?

[Baller789]

https://i.postimg.cc/k50RjLf5/MJ_was_a_fraud_big_time.png

Rebuttal?

1-9

[Lebron23]

LeBron is going to average 26 ppg by the end of the season.

[Spurs m8]

He has shot 1-16 from 3 since his return

Dat king

[Spurs m8]

https://i.postimg.cc/k50RjLf5/MJ_was_a_fraud_big_time.png

Rebuttal?

First in ppg average ever.

First in scoring titles ever

Which is a million times more impressive than longevity stat padding in the 3 ball era.

You stupid stupid sperm stain

You are an embarrassment

[sdot_thadon]

Imagine thinking KD is not one of the best scorers we have seen.just because his totals did not accumulate. Ffs, people need to watch the game and not the record books.

Who says this tho?

And by the same token, imagine not thinking Lebron is one of the best scorers we have seen when his totals DID in fact accumulate.

[coastalmarker99]

Jordan quickly retired in his god awful stint in the 2000s but not before jacking countless FGA's when he realized that he was about to drop below Wilt in career PPG.

[999Guy]

Still amazed Jordan got such numbers without the common 3 point shot, the spacing that comes with that and playing in a league with real d.

Oh...and no collusion and team hopping
You’re right.


Iverson > Shaq

....shut up stupid.

And the fact that you’re Australian just makes your posts seem dumber. A dumb accent to go along with retarded drooly posts about nothing you understand

[999Guy]

https://theundefeated.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/JohnRogers.jpg

https://fadeawayworld.net/.image/ar_16:9%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_au to:good%2Cw_1200/MTgwMTMyOTg3NTYzNDE4NzQ2/the-time-michael-jordan-lost-a-one-on-one-game-against-a-45-year-old-mutual-fund-ceo.jpg

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[999Guy]

Means that MJ played in the tougher era where there were more contenders and he annihilated them all in the Finals, which is why their net efficiency is lower as well. Lebron lost 5 of those 8 Finals so he helped his opponents' net efficiency numbers quite a bit, especially when he got blown out by historic numbers/swept in many of those series.
Now if I go and check the stats, do you really think the horseshit you just panicked out here will stand up?


You think the 07, 14 Spurs, 12 Thunder, 15-18 Warriors needed help padding a net rating? You realize almost half those teams lost anyway right?

Off the top of my head, the 07 , 12, 13, and 16 finals were dead even on points. Shut up dummy.

[8Ball]

Playoffs:

1. LeBron James 7631
2. Michael Jordan* 5987
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 5762
4. Kobe Bryant* 5640
5. Shaquille O'Neal* 5250
6. Tim Duncan* 5172
7. Karl Malone* 4761
8. Julius Erving* 4580
9. Jerry West* 4457

10. Kevin Durant 4454


Still a long ways to go. Yawn.

Thread cliffs.

No answer to this. Looks like the ppgz fan boys lose again.


But but but ppgz!!!!!

[8Ball]

Longevity when MJ played 13 playoff runs and LBJ passed his points in 12? :oldlol:

MJ's 1-9 failures followed by losing to Detroit 3 years in a row ala Derozan to LeBronto is what hurt him.

Sorry baby boi

:roll:

[Kobe_Bryant]

Thread cliffs.

No answer to this. Looks like the ppgz fan boys lose again.


But but but ppgz!!!!!

I answered it already. it's due to steroids and the east being a cake walk for so long


he beat 14 teams with 50+ wins to make 10 finals. I beat 24 to make 7 finals

if I had a free pass to the finals every year I would have way more playoff points too

especially if I avoided any major rebuilds by colluding every 4 years

that also helps

[Bronbron23]

Both ppg and totals have their faults. Both should be used along with some context and common sense when looking at who the best scorers are. Bron stans deep down know bron isn't as good of a scorer as mj. They're just having a mental breakdown again because bron is relatively struggling atm. Whenever bron plays like trash these guys lose their shit.

[8Ball]

Both ppg and totals have their faults. Both should be used along with some context and common sense when looking at who the best scorers are. Bron stans deep down know bron isn't as good of a scorer as mj. They're just having a mental breakdown again because bron is relatively struggling atm. Whenever bron plays like trash these guys lose their shit.

You type more about LeBron than any LeBron stan.

What a meltdown.

[ELITEpower23]

"Longevity" when MJ played 13 playoff runs and LBJ passed his points in only 12 runs? :oldlol:

MJ's 1-9 failures followed by losing to Detroit 3 years in a row ala Derozan to LeBronto is what hurt his achievements.

Any answers at all fellas??

[Bronbron23]

"Longevity" when MJ played 13 playoff runs and LBJ passed his points in only 12 runs? :oldlol:

MJ's 1-9 failures followed by losing to Detroit 3 years in a row ala Derozan to LeBronto is what hurt his achievements.

Any answers at all fellas??

Mj had a higher ppg so clearly bron played more games. That's an easy one. As far as 1-9 it was his first 3 years in the league. It's fine if u wanna use the first 3 years of a players career as the measure but that means neither bron or mj is in the goat convo. Great job Einstein. You just argued your boy out the top 10 :facepalm

[Kobe_Bryant]

Mj had a higher ppg so clearly bron played more games. That's an easy one. As far as 1-9 it was his first 3 years in the league. It's fine if u wanna use the first 3 years of a players career as the measure but that means neither bron or mj is in the goat convo. Great job Einstein. You just argued your boy out the top 10 :facepalm

hes a retard so he probly doesn't even know first round series used to be a best of 3

[Bronbron23]

hes a retard so he probly doesn't even know first round series used to be a best of 3

I think it was best of 5?

[1987_Lakers]

hes a retard so he probly doesn't even know first round series used to be a best of 3

lmao, best of 3.

[ELITEpower23]

hes a retard so he probly doesn't even know first round series used to be a best of 3

LBJ only played 10 more 1st round games so let's give Mikey 10 games at 35 ppg, still short over 1,000 points :oldlol:

Slow you are. Also, it was best of 5 idiot

[3ba11]

Mj had a higher ppg so clearly bron played more games. That's an easy one. As far as 1-9 it was his first 3 years in the league. It's fine if u wanna use the first 3 years of a players career as the measure but that means neither bron or mj is in the goat convo. Great job Einstein. You just argued your boy out the top 10 :facepalm


haha good post

[Bronbron23]

haha good post

It's too easy debating these chumps. They're so all over the place with their arguments half the time you can just use their own arguments against them.

[ELITEpower23]

Playoff Runs to amass 5987 pts

MJ: 13 playoffs to get 5987
LBJ: 13 playoffs to get 6911
Advantage: LBJ +924 points

Also, during this time frame LBJ only played 10 more 1st round games so let's give Mikey Mouse ten more games at 34 ppg. He's still short over 580 points

Whenever you're ready

[8Ball]

Playoff Runs to amass 5987 pts

MJ: 13 playoffs to get 5987
LBJ: 13 playoffs to get 6911
Advantage: LBJ +924 points

Also, during this time frame LBJ only played 10 more 1st round games so let's give Mikey Mouse ten more games at 34 ppg. He's still short over 580 points

Whenever you're ready

Damn.

Troll thread is not going to way the trolls want.

Here's a tissue for their tears :lol

[1987_Lakers]

Playoff Runs to amass 5987 pts

MJ: 13 playoffs to get 5987
LBJ: 13 playoffs to get 6911
Advantage: LBJ +924 points

Also, during this time frame LBJ only played 10 more 1st round games so let's give Mikey Mouse ten more games at 34 ppg. He's still short over 580 points

Whenever you're ready

Destroyed

[Bankaii]

Free throws are what hurt Lebron.
Lebron and KD have the same POG, FGA, FTA, and eFG%. The only difference is that KD makes 1 FT on average more.
But I think Lebron averaging 3 more assists and being the MUCH better playmaker more than makes up for 1 point.

[8Ball]

It's too easy debating these chumps. They're so all over the place with their arguments half the time you can just use their own arguments against them.

You and 3ball have lost nearly every single argument on this forum. :lol

[Bronbron23]

You and 3ball have lost nearly every single argument on this forum. :lol

Ok bud whatever makes u feel better. I literally just won this one. Shit it was won when you guys started comparing bron to 40 year old mj.

Like i said tooooo eazy:oldlol:

[Bankaii]

Mj had a higher ppg so clearly bron played more games. That's an easy one. As far as 1-9 it was his first 3 years in the league. It's fine if u wanna use the first 3 years of a players career as the measure but that means neither bron or mj is in the goat convo. Great job Einstein. You just argued your boy out the top 10 :facepalm
You’re comparing 21 year old MJ with 3 years of college ball to 18 year old Lebron coming out of high school.

If Lebron had college experience to build skill and work on fundamentals under a HOF coach, it wouldn’t even be fair.

[Bronbron23]

You’re comparing 21 year old MJ with 3 years of college ball to 18 year old Lebron coming out of high school.

If Lebron had college experience to build skill and work on fundamentals under a HOF coach, it wouldn’t even be fair.

Agreed but i never compared the 2. And how is comparing 40 year old mj any different than comparing 18 year old bron to 21 year old mj? Do you know how bad bron is gonna be in 2 years? He'll be considerably worse.

[ELITEpower23]

Playoff Runs to amass 5987 pts

MJ: 13 playoffs to get 5987
LBJ: 13 playoffs to get 6911
Advantage: LBJ +924 points

Also, during this time frame LBJ only played 10 more 1st round games so let's give Mikey Mouse ten more games at 34 ppg. He's still short over 580 points

Whenever you're ready BronBron23 :oldlol:

[8Ball]

Playoff Runs to amass 5987 pts

MJ: 13 playoffs to get 5987
LBJ: 13 playoffs to get 6911
Advantage: LBJ +924 points

Also, during this time frame LBJ only played 10 more 1st round games so let's give Mikey Mouse ten more games at 34 ppg. He's still short over 580 points

Whenever you're ready BronBron23 :oldlol:

But but but.... bronbron said he won the argument!

It's not fair!

[GrayGoat]

Wilt > MJ

MJ isn’t capable of a 50ppg season

[8Ball]

Agreed but i never compared the 2. And how is comparing 40 year old mj any different than comparing 18 year old bron to 21 year old mj? Do you know how bad bron is gonna be in 2 years? He'll be considerably worse.

Why does it bother you so much that we compare year 19 LeBron with year 14 or 15 Michael Jordan.


Looks like this Michael Jordan stan is butt hurt.

[Hey Yo]

minus forced 6th man years or achilles injuries my career average is 27.4ppg on 46% all with more 60/70/80 point games than anyone except wilt and more 40/50 point games than anyone except wilt and MJ

Forced 6th man years??

Kobe chose to ride the bench over being the starting SG for NJ.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Forced 6th man years??

Kobe chose to ride the bench over being the starting SG for NJ.

I proved I was better than Eddie by early 97-98 and he could have switched to small forward. Del Harris admittedly held me back.

I was the one dominating jordan 1 on 1 not Eddie

I was the one leading the west in scoring not Eddie

I was the one on commercials and video game covers. not Eddie

[Bronbron23]

Why does it bother you so much that we compare year 19 LeBron with year 14 or 15 Michael Jordan.


Looks like this Michael Jordan stan is butt hurt.

What? I never said anything about that. The comparison was 19 year old lebron to 21 year old mj and 37 year old bron to 40 year old mj. Learn to read noballs i mean 8ball :oldlol:

[Bronbron23]

Wilt > MJ

MJ isn’t capable of a 50ppg season

Ok and what does that have to do with the price of tea in china?

[Hey Yo]

Agreed but i never compared the 2. And how is comparing 40 year old mj any different than comparing 18 year old bron to 21 year old mj? Do you know how bad bron is gonna be in 2 years? He'll be considerably worse.

You act like MJ played consecutive years until he was 40. The most he could do was 7yrs unti needing to step away in his prime.

[Hey Yo]

I proved I was better than Eddie by early 97-98 and he could have switched to small forward. Del Harris admittedly held me back.

I was the one dominating jordan 1 on 1 not Eddie

I was the one leading the west in scoring not Eddie

I was the one on commercials and video game covers. not Eddie

Doesn't change the fact you chose to ride the bench >>> starting.

[ELITEpower23]

But but but.... bronbron said he won the argument!

It's not fair!

Raosted his shook ass :oldlol:

[Bronbron23]

You act like MJ played consecutive years until he was 40. The most he could do was 7yrs unti needing to step away in his prime.

You act like when he stepped away in 93 he rested and chilled on the beach the whole time. He was trained crazy hard every day for hours and hours.

And why do bron stans ignore 90's practices when talking qbout miles on tbe body? The bulls practiced way more and way harder than teams do now. Practices were more physical and intense than games back then.

[Bronbron23]

Raosted his shook ass :oldlol:

Lol not at all. He just came back with the same totals argument. Only one shook here is bron stans. Yall in full panic mode atm. It's like 2011 all over again

[Kblaze8855]

lmao, best of 3.


They were at one point. As late as the 80s. It’s how the Lakers got beat by a 40ish win Rocket team early in the showtime days. Lost game 3 by a single shot.

There also used to be byes in the first round for the top seeds. The Lakers and Celtics had years with no first round in the 80s.

Added to the fact that dominance hurts your totals? You play too well you end series too soon to stack totals. Shaq scored 487 points in the 01 playoffs. Far short of the 600-700 some do….because the Lakers destroyed everyone. 30ppg over less games….

Jerry West had a 42ppg playoffs with shit totals. Went to the finals. But less rounds.

Obviously the playing field isn’t level to compare across eras just off the format….and even if it were losing more games on the way to the finals and more when you get there to extend series isn’t exactly a good thing just because it gives you more games to play.

The ideal outcome of a playoff run is 16 games played. Every loss makes for a worse run but better totals. It really isn’t a sign of superior play.

Lets say new player makes the playoffs as a rookie and scored 30ppg getting swept….he comes back and scores 35 a game sweeping the next twelve playoffs to go down as the most decorated winner and greatest player and scorer anyone ever saw.

Guess what?

Hed still have slightly fewer playoff points than Lebron through 13 playoffs because he wouldn’t have lost enough games along the way.

Judging players or scorers this way has really never made sense. Which is probably why nobody did it till it was helpful to trolls on the internet in specific cases even they know don’t hold water in a broad comparison.

Long story short the entire concept is ****ing stupid.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Since Lebron fans love scoring totals so much, they should love Kawhi's 732 point on 62% TS title run in 2019.

Am I doing this right? he had the best scoring totals\TS for any finals MVP in nba history for a single year.

[8Ball]

Playoff Runs to amass 5987 pts

MJ: 13 playoffs to get 5987
LBJ: 13 playoffs to get 6911
Advantage: LBJ +924 points

Also, during this time frame LBJ only played 10 more 1st round games so let's give Mikey Mouse ten more games at 34 ppg. He's still short over 580 points

Whenever you're ready BronBron23 :oldlol:

Still no answer to this.

But but but, Bron stains are melting down!!!

NOt fair!!

[3ba11]

Still no answer to this.

But but but, Bron stains are melting down!!!

NOt fair!!


Who did more per game and what was the gap

[8Ball]

Who did more per game and what was the gap

We still don't have an answer for this.

https://i.ibb.co/VxTpWMg/Screen-Shot-2021-11-01-at-10-25-58-AM.png

[3ba11]

We still don't have an answer for this.

https://i.ibb.co/VxTpWMg/Screen-Shot-2021-11-01-at-10-25-58-AM.png


You have zero posts like that where Lebron proved me wrong

Only Giannis proved me wrong because he won
organically while carrying the scoring load (carry-job)

[dankok8]

They were at one point. As late as the 80s. It’s how the Lakers got beat by a 40ish win Rocket team early in the showtime days. Lost game 3 by a single shot.

There also used to be byes in the first round for the top seeds. The Lakers and Celtics had years with no first round in the 80s.

Added to the fact that dominance hurts your totals? You play too well you end series too soon to stack totals. Shaq scored 487 points in the 01 playoffs. Far short of the 600-700 some do….because the Lakers destroyed everyone. 30ppg over less games….

Jerry West had a 42ppg playoffs with shit totals. Went to the finals. But less rounds.

Obviously the playing field isn’t level to compare across eras just off the format….and even if it were losing more games on the way to the finals and more when you get there to extend series isn’t exactly a good thing just because it gives you more games to play.

The ideal outcome of a playoff run is 16 games played. Every loss makes for a worse run but better totals. It really isn’t a sign of superior play.

Lets say new player makes the playoffs as a rookie and scored 30ppg getting swept….he comes back and scores 35 a game sweeping the next twelve playoffs to go down as the most decorated winner and greatest player and scorer anyone ever saw.

Guess what?

Hed still have slightly fewer playoff points than Lebron through 13 playoffs because he wouldn’t have lost enough games along the way.

Judging players or scorers this way has really never made sense. Which is probably why nobody did it till it was helpful to trolls on the internet in specific cases even they know don’t hold water in a broad comparison.

Long story short the entire concept is ****ing stupid.

A person on here still has a brain! :applause:

[GrayGoat]

What’s better: playing one season averaging 35ppg
Or playing 20 seasons averaging 25ppg? Obviously as a player ages ppg tapers off

[TheCorporation]

playoff runs to amass 5987 pts

mj: 13 playoffs to get 5987
lbj: 13 playoffs to get 6911
advantage: Lbj +924 points

also, during this time frame lbj only played 10 more 1st round games so let's give mikey mouse ten more games at 34 ppg. He's still short over 580 points

whenever you're ready bronbron23 :oldlol:

SHUT IT DOWN ep23!

[TheCorporation]

They were at one point. As late as the 80s. It’s how the Lakers got beat by a 40ish win Rocket team early in the showtime days. Lost game 3 by a single shot.

There also used to be byes in the first round for the top seeds. The Lakers and Celtics had years with no first round in the 80s.

Added to the fact that dominance hurts your totals? You play too well you end series too soon to stack totals. Shaq scored 487 points in the 01 playoffs. Far short of the 600-700 some do….because the Lakers destroyed everyone. 30ppg over less games….

Jerry West had a 42ppg playoffs with shit totals. Went to the finals. But less rounds.

Obviously the playing field isn’t level to compare across eras just off the format….and even if it were losing more games on the way to the finals and more when you get there to extend series isn’t exactly a good thing just because it gives you more games to play.

The ideal outcome of a playoff run is 16 games played. Every loss makes for a worse run but better totals. It really isn’t a sign of superior play.

Lets say new player makes the playoffs as a rookie and scored 30ppg getting swept….he comes back and scores 35 a game sweeping the next twelve playoffs to go down as the most decorated winner and greatest player and scorer anyone ever saw.

Guess what?

Hed still have slightly fewer playoff points than Lebron through 13 playoffs because he wouldn’t have lost enough games along the way.

Judging players or scorers this way has really never made sense. Which is probably why nobody did it till it was helpful to trolls on the internet in specific cases even they know don’t hold water in a broad comparison.

Long story short the entire concept is ****ing stupid.

Kblaze took an L here

[Gohan]

Kblaze took an L here

He must have not agreed with you. Which is the only reason you would say that

[Axe]

SHUT IT DOWN ep23!
Who's also you, slick?

[Lebron23]

3ball getting roasted in this thread

[Bronbron23]

Still no answer to this.

But but but, Bron stains are melting down!!!

NOt fair!!

It was answered several times dummy. Noballs still melting down:oldlol:

[SATAN]

3ball getting roasted in this thread

Don't forget Bronbron23

[Baller789]

Since Lebron fans love scoring totals so much, they should love Kawhi's 732 point on 62% TS title run in 2019.

Am I doing this right? he had the best scoring totals\TS for any finals MVP in nba history for a single year.

Lebrontards avoiding this post like a plague. :oldlol:

[Baller789]

What’s better: playing one season averaging 35ppg
Or playing 20 seasons averaging 25ppg? Obviously as a player ages ppg tapers off
You are comparing James Harden to Lebron now?

[Baller789]

Playoff Runs to amass 5987 pts

MJ: 13 playoffs to get 5987
LBJ: 13 playoffs to get 6911
Advantage: LBJ +924 points

Also, during this time frame LBJ only played 10 more 1st round games so let's give Mikey Mouse ten more games at 34 ppg. He's still short over 580 points

Whenever you're ready
How many games are those 13 playoffs for each?
TIA!

[TheCorporation]

How many games are those 13 playoffs for each?
TIA!

As many as they could play before losing a series :lol Ready....GO!

[TheCorporation]

Playoff Runs to amass 5987 pts

MJ: 13 playoffs to get 5987
LBJ: 13 playoffs to get 6911
Advantage: LBJ +924 points

Also, during this time frame LBJ only played 10 more 1st round games so let's give Mikey Mouse ten more games at 34 ppg. He's still short over 580 points

Whenever you're ready BronBron23 :oldlol:

Guys? So it's over now? :lol

Lite work for Ep23

[DevBooker'sMask]

And he'll keep falling lower every year he plays on the side chance he isnt getting any better he is falling a part at the seams

[Baller789]

As many as they could play before losing a series :lol Ready....GO!
:facepalm

[8Ball]

As many as they could play before losing a series :lol Ready....GO!

Jordan got swept in the first round for 3 years in a row.

Maybe he should have scored less and focused more on team basketball in order to win more games.

[8Ball]

Playoff Runs to amass 5987 pts

MJ: 13 playoffs to get 5987
LBJ: 13 playoffs to get 6911
Advantage: LBJ +924 points

Also, during this time frame LBJ only played 10 more 1st round games so let's give Mikey Mouse ten more games at 34 ppg. He's still short over 580 points

Whenever you're ready BronBron23 :oldlol:

Thread cliffs.

This post causing serious pain and lack of sleep.

[ClipperRevival]

Playoff Runs to amass 5987 pts

MJ: 13 playoffs to get 5987
LBJ: 13 playoffs to get 6911
Advantage: LBJ +924 points

Also, during this time frame LBJ only played 10 more 1st round games so let's give Mikey Mouse ten more games at 34 ppg. He's still short over 580 points

Whenever you're ready

Let's take a closer look with proper context shall we.

MJ - 179 games - 33.4 PPG - 6 chips, 6 FMVP, 0 finals losses

LeGOAT - 239 games- 28.9 PPG - 3 chips, 3 FMVP, 6 finals losses

No doubt LeGOAT is our era's Pete Rose.

https://c.tenor.com/Cx1Gw-qs974AAAAC/apu-thank-you.gif

[Baller789]

Thread cliffs.

This post causing serious pain and lack of sleep.

No it's showing stupidity without proper context. See post above for proper context.

[PP34Deuce]

You guys are hilarious. Everyone on that top 20 is a great scorer. You're talking bout lebron who's not even a shooter or focused scoring and he's not far from elite designated scorers.

Speaks to how good he is

[8Ball]

Let's take a closer look with proper context shall we.

MJ - 179 games - 33.4 PPG - 6 chips, 6 FMVP, 0 finals losses

LeGOAT - 239 games- 28.9 PPG - 3 chips, 3 FMVP, 6 finals losses

No doubt LeGOAT is our era's Pete Rose.

https://c.tenor.com/Cx1Gw-qs974AAAAC/apu-thank-you.gif

Championships are team accomplishments so yes, the Bulls won 6 chips.

This was a ppg thread.

Looks like that elitepower23 post still causing emotional distress.

[Bronbron23]

Let's take a closer look with proper context shall we.

MJ - 179 games - 33.4 PPG - 6 chips, 6 FMVP, 0 finals losses

LeGOAT - 239 games- 28.9 PPG - 3 chips, 3 FMVP, 6 finals losses

No doubt LeGOAT is our era's Pete Rose.

https://c.tenor.com/Cx1Gw-qs974AAAAC/apu-thank-you.gif

Don't give them facts like that man. They prefer delusion:oldlol:

[Baller789]

Championships are team accomplishments so yes, the Bulls won 6 chips.

This was a ppg thread.

Looks like that elitepower23 post still causing emotional distress.
Says this thread is about ppg.

Yet keeps gloating on about a scoring totals post with misleading context from a fellow Lebrontard.

Gentlemen, you can't make this shit up. :roll:

[Axe]

Championships are team accomplishments so yes, the Bulls won 6 chips.

This was a ppg thread.

Looks like that elitepower23 post still causing emotional distress.
Basketball is a team sport after all. Can't win the game with just one man.