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000
11-04-2021, 07:01 AM
So happy to see someone escape LeVampire's terrible influence:D

000
11-04-2021, 07:07 AM
Career lows in:

ppg/36 minutes
WS/48
BPM

My boy Kuz setting personal records:applause:

RRR3
11-04-2021, 09:28 AM
That’s the Kuzma we all know and love. Bricking wide open shots and terrible defense :applause:

tontoz
11-04-2021, 09:32 AM
Funny that Westbrook has a career low TS of 48.5%. Pts, assists and rebounds are down from last year. Hmmm

Airupthere
11-04-2021, 09:34 AM
Dude played 3 years with lebron. He's done, ruined.

RRR3
11-04-2021, 09:38 AM
Funny that Westbrook has a career low TS of 48.5%. Pts, assists and rebounds are down from last year. Hmmm
You should be well aware of how bad Westbrook is. And yes he was good in his prime before you attack me for it.

Bankaii
11-04-2021, 09:44 AM
Funny that Westbrook has a career low TS of 48.5%. Pts, assists and rebounds are down from last year. Hmmm
TS% is such a dumb stat. His FT% is horrible this year which brings TS% down. Is Westbrook’s FT% being low the Lakers fault?

His eFG% is almost identical to last year. Apply a little context next time.

imdaman99
11-04-2021, 09:45 AM
Funny that Westbrook has a career low TS of 48.5%. Pts, assists and rebounds are down from last year. Hmmm

Westbrook is not who he is. He should fit his role as a rich man's Caruso from now on. Without the shooting or defense doe. Some hustle rebounds and 50-50 balls.

tontoz
11-04-2021, 09:53 AM
TS% is such a dumb stat. His FT% is horrible this year which brings TS% down. Is Westbrook’s FT% being low the Lakers fault?

His eFG% is almost identical to last year. Apply a little context next time.


Kuzma is also shooting 48% from the foul line Skippy.

Russ' rebounds and assists are also way down.

000
11-04-2021, 10:06 AM
Kuzma is also shooting 48% from the foul line Skippy.

Russ' rebounds and assists are also way down.
Kuzma is also shooting career lows in FG% and eFG%, and is shooting fewer FGA/36 than in 2020

Thanks for playing

Shogon
11-04-2021, 10:08 AM
Dude played 3 years with lebron. He's done, ruined.

And if he were playing extremely well it would be "LOL LEBRONBALL HELD ANOTHER ONE BACK!!!"

You're an idiot. Predictable.

Kyle Kuzma sucks now.

Kyle Kuzma sucked then.

Kyle Kuzma will always suck. (by NBA standards)


Kyle Kuzma is the type of player that tricks extremely casual fans. He has a game or two... hell maybe even three... where he looks like an All-Star level player. But he inevitably comes back down. He always does. For his size, his athleticism is amazing. But his decision making is shit and I've repeatedly seen him do literal 360s on the court defensively not knowing where the **** he's supposed to be. This guy has some of the dumbest turnovers and defensive lapses ever.

tontoz
11-04-2021, 10:17 AM
Kuzma is also shooting career lows in FG% and eFG%, and is shooting fewer FGA/36 than in 2020

Thanks for playing


Shooting is down league wide. Lillard's EFG is 14% worse than last year and he didn't change teams. Lebron's EFG is down as well.

Per 36 Kuzma's FG attempts are currently 14.1. Last year they were 13.9. Math isn't your strong suit obviously.

000
11-04-2021, 10:40 AM
Shooting is down league wide. Lillard's EFG is 14% worse than last year and he didn't change teams. Lebron's EFG is down as well.

Per 36 Kuzma's FG attempts are currently 14.1. Last year they were 13.9. Math isn't your strong suit obviously.
"than in 2020"

Which season was last season, 2020 or 2021? Think fast Einstein

Bankaii
11-04-2021, 10:42 AM
Kuzma is also shooting 48% from the foul line Skippy.

Russ' rebounds and assists are also way down.
Russ has almost identical efficiency to last year, with the exception of his FT%, which is only his fault. Obviously going from 1st/2nd option with Beal to clear 3rd option behind two top 10 players will cause his PPG, rebounds, and assists to decrease. Use your brain.

Kuzma is taking 2.5 more shots than last year to average 1 more ppg. His FG% is down 4%, his 3P% is down almost 5%. The only thing that’s actually improved is his rebounds, and that’s simply because he’s playing on a team with terrible rebounders (except maybe Trez).

Just stop man, take the L.

tontoz
11-04-2021, 10:45 AM
"than in 2020"

Which season was last season, 2020 or 2021? Think fast Einstein

Why did you go back two years but ignore last year? :confusedshrug:

Any comment on Lebrons efficiency going down? Lillard?

League wide efficiency is down. Why are you ignoring that?

tontoz
11-04-2021, 10:48 AM
Russ has almost identical efficiency to last year, with the exception of his FT%, which is only his fault. Obviously going from 1st/2nd option with Beal to clear 3rd option behind two top 10 players will cause his PPG, rebounds, and assists to decrease. Use your brain.

Kuzma is taking 2.5 more shots than last year to average 1 more ppg. His FG% is down 4%, his 3P% is down almost 5%. The only thing that’s actually improved is his rebounds, and that’s simply because he’s playing on a team with terrible rebounders (except maybe Trez).

Just stop man, take the L.

Why would being a 3rd option on offense cause Russ' rebounding to go down?

You do realize that scoring efficiency is down league wide, right? Are you not aware that the rules have changed and they are using a new ball?

000
11-04-2021, 10:49 AM
Shooting is down league wide. Lillard's EFG is 14% worse than last year and he didn't change teams. Lebron's EFG is down as well.

Per 36 Kuzma's FG attempts are currently 14.1. Last year they were 13.9. Math isn't your strong suit obviously.Also Kuzma has a lower eFG% rank compared to the league than in his previous 3 seasons - so no excuse there

You say Lillard is shooting poorly, but PG13 has a 60% eFg%, Durant has a 64%, Jokic has a 66%... maybe Lillard needs to get in the gym

tontoz
11-04-2021, 10:51 AM
Last year the worst shooting team was Orlando at 42.9%. There are currently 6 teams shooting worse than that.

000
11-04-2021, 10:51 AM
Why did you go back two years but ignore last year? :confusedshrug:


Cuz I wanted to. You gonna cry?

Kuzma played with healthy Lebron and Anthony Davis and still took more shots per minute than now, damn.

000
11-04-2021, 10:53 AM
Last year the worst shooting team was Orlando at 42.9%. There are currently 6 teams shooting worse than that.
Kuzma has a lower eFG% rank compared to the league than in 2021, 2020, 2019

tontoz
11-04-2021, 10:59 AM
Kuzma has a lower eFG% rank compared to the league than in 2021, 2020, 2019

Lebron's EFG is down from last year, the worst since 2015. I guess he misses playing with Kuzma. It couldn't possibly be the new rules or new ball.

Axe
11-04-2021, 11:00 AM
He's flourishing.

ArbitraryWater
11-04-2021, 11:09 AM
TS% is such a dumb stat. His FT% is horrible this year which brings TS% down. Is Westbrook’s FT% being low the Lakers fault?

His eFG% is almost identical to last year. Apply a little context next time.

Wow, tontoz destroyed.

ArbitraryWater
11-04-2021, 11:10 AM
Lebron's EFG is down from last year, the worst since 2015. I guess he misses playing with Kuzma. It couldn't possibly be the new rules or new ball.

That makes no sense.

tontoz
11-04-2021, 11:14 AM
Wow, tontoz destroyed.


I am not the one who created a thread about a players TS on an eight game sample size.

RRR3
11-04-2021, 11:14 AM
Imagine being desperate to defend Kuzma of all players lmao. Tontoz :facepalm

000
11-04-2021, 11:15 AM
Lebron's EFG is down from last year, the worst since 2015. I guess he misses playing with Kuzma. It couldn't possibly be the new rules or new ball.
The oldest star in the league? Ok duly noted

Speaking of old players, Carmelo is currently shooting a career high 67% eFG, 15% higher than last season... so without the new rules and new ball, he would probably shoot like 70% right?

tontoz
11-04-2021, 11:20 AM
Imagine being desperate to defend Kuzma of all players lmao. Tontoz :facepalm


I am not the one making threads about Kuzma. Imagine creating a thread about Kuzma's TS after 8 games. That is desperate.

Kuzma is averaging 10 rebounds per game and playing good defense. Ask any Wizards fan.

Harrell is the one who has been our best contributor from the trade and he couldn't even get on the court with the Lakers at the end of last season.

000
11-04-2021, 11:26 AM
leaguewide eFG% dropped by 2% from last season, kuzma's dropped 6%.

tontoz
11-04-2021, 11:30 AM
leaguewide eFG% dropped by 2% from last season, kuzma's dropped 6%.

And Lebron's dropped 4.3% #washedKing

RRR3
11-04-2021, 11:42 AM
I am not the one making threads about Kuzma. Imagine creating a thread about Kuzma's TS after 8 games. That is desperate.

Kuzma is averaging 10 rebounds per game and playing good defense. Ask any Wizards fan.

Harrell is the one who has been our best contributor from the trade and he couldn't even get on the court with the Lakers at the end of last season.
Harrell put up similar rate stats on the Lakers. He was benched for lack of defense and shooting. Absolutely no one doubts the man can score at a high level.

RRR3
11-04-2021, 11:43 AM
And Lebron's dropped 4.3% #washedKing
LeBron getting worse as he gets closer to 40 isn’t surprising :lol

Axe
11-04-2021, 11:48 AM
And Lebron's dropped 4.3% #washedKing
"LeGod"

RRR3
11-04-2021, 11:53 AM
Axe the lunatic running around barking like a mad dog again.

Axe
11-04-2021, 11:55 AM
Pics or it didn't happen. Btw, existence is pain.

RRR3
11-04-2021, 11:57 AM
^steaming

Axe
11-04-2021, 11:57 AM
Lebron loses because of illegitimate sore losers like you.

RRR3
11-04-2021, 11:58 AM
Lebron loses because of illegitimate sore losers like you.
I have nothing to do with LeBron’s career lmao wtf

000
11-04-2021, 12:02 PM
by the way, despite his improved rebounding, kuzma is currently posting a career-low PER as well

Airupthere
11-04-2021, 12:02 PM
Lol, this is the stage now that lebron seemingly can't be faulted anymore because of his "age"/"mileage". He's a healthy 36 ffs, not 40.

RRR3
11-04-2021, 12:04 PM
Lol, this is the stage now that lebron seemingly can't be faulted anymore because of his "age"/"mileage". He's a healthy 36 ffs, not 40.
Name another player who was held to these standards at 36 going on 37 lmao.

Airupthere
11-04-2021, 12:07 PM
Name another player who was held to these standards at 36 going on 37 lmao.

There are other greats that have played well into their late age. This is not twilight zone. Also, no one is saying that Lebron is not a special combination of size and athleticism. So yes, given more, more is expected. He does not look old at 36 to be given a pass for eveything he does worse.

Axe
11-04-2021, 12:08 PM
There are other greats that have played well into their late age. This is not twilight zone. Also, no one is saying that Lebron is not a special combination of size and athleticism. So yes, given more, more is expected. He does not look old at 36 to be given a pass for eveything he does worse.
Not jordan or kobe tho.

RRR3
11-04-2021, 12:10 PM
There are other greats that have played well into their late age. This is not twilight zone. Also, no one is saying that Lebron is not a special combination of size and athleticism. So yes, given more, more is expected. He does not look old at 36 to be given a pass for eveything he does worse.
Who else was held to the standard of best player in the league at this age? :lol

I am not saying LeBron is still the best in the league but y’all sure expect him to play like it still.

ImKobe
11-04-2021, 12:36 PM
If Kuzma's such a terrible defender, why are the Lakers so much worse on D without him despite their weak schedule to start the season? They've given up 115+ points in 6 out 8 games and just gave up 117 to the damn Rockets who are almost dead last on offense lmao.

000
11-04-2021, 12:37 PM
If Kuzma's such a terrible defender, why are the Lakers so much worse on D without him despite their weak schedule to start the season? They've given up 115+ points in 6 out 8 games and just gave up 117 to the damn Rockets who are almost dead last on offense lmao.
carusgoat

RRR3
11-04-2021, 12:40 PM
If Kuzma's such a terrible defender, why are the Lakers so much worse on D without him despite their weak schedule to start the season? They've given up 115+ points in 6 out 8 games and just gave up 117 to the damn Rockets who are almost dead last on offense lmao.
Yeah man not like they lost two of the best perimeter defenders in the league in KCP and Caruso or anything :rolleyes:

Bankaii
11-04-2021, 06:43 PM
Why would being a 3rd option on offense cause Russ' rebounding to go down?

You do realize that scoring efficiency is down league wide, right? Are you not aware that the rules have changed and they are using a new ball?
I really have to explain to you that’s it’s easier to get rebounds on a lottery team with guys like Thomas Bryant, Alex Len, and Daniel Gafford, compared to a contender with Lebron, AD, Dwight, and DJ??

So the rule changes and new ball are why Kuzma is less efficient? Not the fact that he’s just an inefficient player that now has more freedom and ball control with his already low IQ.
Yea there’s no point in debating with you lol.

Bankaii
11-04-2021, 06:45 PM
If Kuzma's such a terrible defender, why are the Lakers so much worse on D without him despite their weak schedule to start the season? They've given up 115+ points in 6 out 8 games and just gave up 117 to the damn Rockets who are almost dead last on offense lmao.
So you’re saying that Kuzma is the reason the Lakers defense was great last year?
You’re really that desperate?

HBK_Kliq_2
11-04-2021, 06:48 PM
Lebron with the 2.6 BPM and 12% win share per 48 :roll:


Picking up right where he left off from last years playoffs: A role player

tontoz
11-04-2021, 06:51 PM
I really have to explain to you that’s it’s easier to get rebounds on a lottery team with guys like Thomas Bryant, Alex Len, and Daniel Gafford, compared to a contender with Lebron, AD, Dwight, and DJ??

So the rule changes and new ball are why Kuzma is less efficient? Not the fact that he’s just an inefficient player that now has more freedom and ball control with his already low IQ.
Yea there’s no point in debating with you lol.

The wizards rebounding rate last year is higher than the Lakers current rate dumbass. I doubt Howard's 4 rebounds per game are having much effect on Russ.:oldlol:


The league as a whole is less efficient. Why is that?

Kuzmas "freedom" isnt resulting in more shot attempts. Per 36 his attempts have actually gone down slightly but I can see why a simpleton like you thinks he is taking more shots.

Bankaii
11-04-2021, 08:50 PM
The wizards rebounding rate last year is higher than the Lakers current rate dumbass. I doubt Howard's 4 rebounds per game are having much effect on Russ.:oldlol:


The league as a whole is less efficient. Why is that?

Kuzmas "freedom" isnt resulting in more shot attempts. Per 36 his attempts have actually gone down slightly but I can see why a simpleton like you thinks he is taking more shots.
The Wizards had more chances to rebound the ball dumbass. The Lakers are 4th in eFG% this year, the Wizards were a bottom 10 team last year. More bricks = more rebounds.

Are you retarded? AD (11), Bron (6), Dwight (4), and DJ (6) is a much better rebounding team that the shit the Wizards put out last year Bryant (6), Gafford (6) Hachimura (6), Avdija (5).
The same Dwight that you’re mocking averages 2 less rebounds that the Wizards rebounder after Russ last year. And Dwight is doing that in almost half the minutes played. Try again.

Deadass are you retarded? Kuzma is playing more minutes because the Wizards need him more than the Lakers did. More time on the court = more shooting opportunities.
His time of possession has increased from 1.7 to to 2.2. His touches, average dribbles per touch, etc have all increased as well. You really thing going from playing with Lebron, AD, and Schroeder to just Beal wouldn’t allow more freedom?

There’s no way you’re this dumb.

tontoz
11-04-2021, 09:02 PM
The Wizards had more chances to rebound the ball dumbass. The Lakers are 4th in eFG% this year, the Wizards were a bottom 10 team last year. More bricks = more rebounds.

Are you retarded? AD (11), Bron (6), Dwight (4), and DJ (6) is a much better rebounding team that the shit the Wizards put out last year Bryant (6), Gafford (6) Hachimura (6), Avdija (5).
The same Dwight that you’re mocking averages 2 less rebounds that the Wizards rebounder after Russ last year. And Dwight is doing that in almost half the minutes played. Try again.

Deadass are you retarded? Kuzma is playing more minutes because the Wizards need him more than the Lakers did. More time on the court = more shooting opportunities.
His time of possession has increased from 1.7 to to 2.2. His touches, average dribbles per touch, etc have all increased as well. You really thing going from playing with Lebron, AD, and Schroeder to just Beal wouldn’t allow more freedom?

There’s no way you’re this dumb.


Jesus you are a moron. :facepalm

First of all what a team shoots is irrelevant to rebounding rate. Rebounding rate simply looks at the number of rebounds available and how many they get.

But lets set that aside and pretend that it actually does matter what a team shoots. Even then you are completely wrong. Most rebounds are DEFENSIVE.



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Kuzma's shots per 36 are virtually identical to last season. He is just playing more minutes and the reason for that is last year's starting 4 hasn't even played yet.

tontoz
11-04-2021, 09:47 PM
The Wizards had more chances to rebound the ball dumbass. The Lakers are 4th in eFG% this year, the Wizards were a bottom 10 team last year. More bricks = more rebounds.

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To put a bigger spotlight on your stupidity the Lakers are currently averaging 9.6 offensive rebounds per game.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/offensive-rebounds-per-game?date=2021-11-04

while last year the Wizards averaged 9.7 offensive rebounds per game.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/offensive-rebounds-per-game?date=2021-07-21


So the shooting disparity didn't mean jack sh** even when looking only at offensive rebounds per game.


:roll:

Bankaii
11-04-2021, 11:07 PM
Jesus you are a moron. :facepalm

First of all what a team shoots is irrelevant to rebounding rate. Rebounding rate simply looks at the number of rebounds available and how many they get.

But lets set that aside and pretend that it actually does matter what a team shoots. Even then you are completely wrong. Most rebounds are DEFENSIVE.



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Kuzma's shots per 36 are virtually identical to last season. He is just playing more minutes and the reason for that is last year's starting 4 hasn't even played yet.
You literally just repeated what I said dumbass.
Kuzma has more minutes meaning he has more opportunities to shoot. Are you really dumb enough to say that Kuzma has the same freedom he does now as when he played with Lakers? No moving goal posts, just a yes or no answer. Let’s see how dumb you are.
Also, why did you conveniently ignore the discrepancy in time of possession and touches for Kuzma? Didn’t fit your agenda?

I’ll admit I got mixed up on the rebounding stats. But Again, compare the Lakers best rebounders to the Wizards. So Westbrook magically averages less rebounds per game and it has nothing to do with personnel. What the reason then smartass?

Axe
11-04-2021, 11:09 PM
Lebron with the 2.6 BPM and 12% win share per 48 :roll:


Picking up right where he left off from last years playoffs: A role player
He still has yet to blow a 3-1 lead in the playoffs, which your hero has awfully done last year.

tontoz
11-05-2021, 12:52 AM
You literally just repeated what I said dumbass.
Kuzma has more minutes meaning he has more opportunities to shoot. Are you really dumb enough to say that Kuzma has the same freedom he does now as when he played with Lakers? No moving goal posts, just a yes or no answer. Let’s see how dumb you are.
Also, why did you conveniently ignore the discrepancy in time of possession and touches for Kuzma? Didn’t fit your agenda?

I’ll admit I got mixed up on the rebounding stats. But Again, compare the Lakers best rebounders to the Wizards. So Westbrook magically averages less rebounds per game and it has nothing to do with personnel. What the reason then smartass?


His shots per minute are almost identical to last year, 13.9 to 14.1 per 36. His newfound "freedom" is nonsense, especially when Rui comes back and his minutes go down.

His minutes per game varied widely last year, from 24 in January to 33 in March. Doesn't matter what the minutes are what matters is the shots per minute.

His shots per minute was higher the year they won the title at 15.8 per 36 even though he was playing fewer minutes per game. He was shooting at a higher rate than he is now.

Holding the ball a half second longer before shooting doesn't mean crap to me, especially with an 8 game sample size.

A sample size of 8 games isn't going to provide reliable results for any stat which is why this thread is so lame, but it was funny watching you expose your ignorance of grade school math.

:oldlol: