BREAKING: ESPN story on Suns owner Robert Sarver Racism and Misogyny

[eliteballer]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32440987/phoenix-suns-robert-sarver-allegations-racism-misogyny

[ImKobe]

"You know, why does Draymond Green get to run up the court and say [N-word]," Sarver, who is white, allegedly said, repeating the N-word several times in a row.

"You can't say that," Watson, who is Black and Hispanic, told Sarver.

"Why?" Sarver replied. "Draymond Green says [N-word]."

"You can't f---ing say that," Watson said again.

https://cdn.bocatutor.me/img/teacher.png

[FultzNationRISE]

Sarver, who is white, allegedly said, repeating the N-word several times in a row.


:roll:

[fsvr54]

You have to differentiate between the the -a and the -er.

Anyone can use -a if you grew up around blacks and hispanics.

[iamgine]

This is such a non story lmao

[FultzNationRISE]

This is such a non story lmao


This.

People should honestly not even click on the link. Altho I'm sure everyone will, which is exactly what fuels this nonsense.

[1987_Lakers]

Before the 2017-18 season, a tense front-office situation provided another glimpse into interactions with Sarver employees felt were racially insensitive. Late in the previous season, point guard Eric Bledsoe had been benched in a tanking effort led by Sarver, former basketball operations staffers said. Issues with the benching percolated into the offseason, when Bledsoe was eligible for a contract extension.

Contract talks eventually led Bledsoe's Klutch Sports agent, Rich Paul, to communicate directly with Sarver -- the Suns owner didn't want to extend Bledsoe's contract in part due to concerns about Bledsoe's durability, plus concerns that the team had performed poorly with him as the starting point guard, according to sources at the time. Paul responded to Sarver's remarks by saying that he knew basketball and that they "weren't talking about tennis," Sarver's childhood sport.

Sarver erupted at the dig, according to two people with knowledge of the interaction, telling Paul he was going to fire Watson as the team's head coach if Watson didn't sever ties with Klutch, which had been representing Watson, within 10 days - just after the start of the season.

Watson said that Sarver's ultimatum quickly reached him. He asked Sarver if he was serious.

"Yeah, I will f---ing fire you," Sarver told Watson. "You have 10 days to think about it. Don't wait too long."

Watson said he explained to Sarver the optics of a white owner asking a Black coach to fire an agency led by a Black agent, Paul.

"Yeah, I understand what race you two are," Sarver replied, according to Watson. "So I'm asking you, How bad do you want your job?"

lmao

[Im Still Ballin]

:roll:



Four former employees said that in several all-staff meetings Sarver claimed he needed to wear Magnum or extra-large condoms.

[8Ball]

Read half the story. Anything in the 2nd half worth reading?

Sarver is basically a shit head.

[Kblaze8855]

A former Suns executive on a podcast I listen to hates the guy but he’s never mentioned race as a reason. Apparently he’s just a liar and a jackass who ran off Steve Kerr by repeatedly breaking his word about promises to take care of the coaching staff and others. “What are they gonna do about it?” was supposedly one of his favorite responses to being told he’d promised to take care of someone who agreed to put off being paid properly. Just a hard guy to build a winner with apparently. All this won’t help.

[tpols]

https://cdn.bocatutor.me/img/teacher.png

Its actually a hilarious hypocrisy. African American players can drop N-bombs and even use racial slurs against other non-black players, but if anybody else does that they get cancelled. Blatant contradiction.

[outofstomach]

resident racists have already infiltrated the first page, might as well see my way out

[outofstomach]

You have to differentiate between the the -a and the -er.

Anyone can use -a if you grew up around blacks and hispanics.
no you can’t btw, supposed to be solely a term of endearment amidst black people, that is revisionist history pushed by non-black people who want to be as culturally “black” as possible, without ya know, actually being black

anyways, peace

[tpols]

lmao

Sarver sounds like a huge prick but Watson using the "optics of a white owner firing a black coach" is blatant blackmail scumbaggery. Eric Bledsoe ended up being ass everywhere he went anyway so Sarver was right.

[Bronbron23]

You have to differentiate between the the -a and the -er.

Anyone can use -a if you grew up around blacks and hispanics.

Nah bro. Maybe where youe from but if we caught a white dude saying the n word in any kind away we we're f*ckin them up.

[1987_Lakers]

Sarver sounds like a huge prick but Watson using the "optics of a white owner firing a black coach" is blatant blackmail scumbaggery. Eric Bledsoe ended up being ass everywhere he went anyway so Sarver was right.

That may be true, but threatening to fire a coach just because he dislikes his agent is childish as hell.

[FultzNationRISE]

Nah bro. Maybe where youe from but if we caught a white dude saying the n word in any kind away we we're f*ckin them up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfz0tDQZhqs

[FultzNationRISE]

:roll:

LeSarver :pimp:

[fsvr54]

no you can’t btw, supposed to be solely a term of endearment amidst black people, that is revisionist history pushed by non-black people who want to be as culturally “black” as possible, without ya know, actually being black

anyways, peace

I dont care what you think. Me and all the hispanic homeboys said it growing up and I've been around countless black people. They have no issue with it if you're cool.

[fsvr54]

Nah bro. Maybe where youe from but if we caught a white dude saying the n word in any kind away we we're f*ckin them up.

I'm latino white and you won't do shit. If you attack me it means you have no control over your emotional responses and are basically a child. I'd kick your ass anyways nikka

[Bronbron23]

I'm latino white and you won't do shit. If you attack me it means you have no control over your emotional responses and are basically a child. I'd kick your ass anyways nikka

Latino and spanish are different especially if they grow up with ninjas but can't no straight white dude go around a bunch of ninjas and say the n word even with an a without getting stomped out. Show me a bunch of ninjas that allow a white dude to say it and i'll show u a bunch of clown ass ninjas.

[Bronbron23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfz0tDQZhqs

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[Real Men Wear Green]

I empathize with all of my oppressed white brethren unable to call black people ******s due to the oppression of liberal society. I want all of you to go up to the biggest strongest black guys you can find and call them ******. Not online that will do nothing. Do it to their faces. Several times a day. As often as possible. Show the world you are unafraid of societal norms.

[Bronbron23]

Its actually a hilarious hypocrisy. African American players can drop N-bombs and even use racial slurs against other non-black players, but if anybody else does that they get cancelled. Blatant contradiction.

No it's not. The best analogy i can give to explain this is your mother or your sister or any woman who love. If they piss you off you can vent to your friends about how they're a bitch but if one of them called your mom or sister a bitch you'd want to punch there face off.

[Bronbron23]

I empathize with all of my oppressed white brethren unable to call black people ******s due to the oppression of liberal society. I want all of you to go up to the biggest strongest black guys you can find and call them ******. Not online that will do nothing. Do it to their faces. Several times a day. As often as possible. Show the world you are unafraid of societal norms.

Oh shit can u tell them to video it also? I wanna see ghis shit :oldlol:

[tontoz]

I had a couple of uncles and cousins that used the n word all the time (I'm white). My parents never did, and i mean never.

I avoided using not on any moral grounds but just for self preservation. The n word is like the f word, if you get in the habit of saying it it might slip out at the wrong time. I played pickup ball all the time when i was young. Many times i was the only white guy on the court. Saying the n word would not have worked out well for me lol.

I had black guys call me that, like if i was having a battle with someone "you and that n were going back and forth" but i never had any urge to say it.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

I think if you're a white guy who acts black and has black friends you can say "nig*ga* with an a instead of er at the end of it. i guess. An old white rich conservative guy like him can't say it though.

Also Ayton looks like the type of black who would be a slave to Sarver back in the day, so it makes sense why he refused to pay him.

[FultzNationRISE]

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And neither do I :crazysam:

[FultzNationRISE]

I think if you're a white guy who acts black and has black friends you can say "nig*ga* with an a instead of er at the end of it. i guess. An old white rich conservative guy like him can't say it though.

Also Ayton looks like the type of black who would be a slave to Sarver back in the day, so it makes sense why he refused to pay him.

:roll:

[meat]

Nah bro. Maybe where youe from but if we caught a white dude saying the n word in any kind away we we're f*ckin them up.

Well where are you from? That makes a big difference.

[tpols]

No it's not. The best analogy i can give to explain this is your mother or your sister or any woman who love. If they piss you off you can vent to your friends about how they're a bitch but if one of them called your mom or sister a bitch you'd want to punch there face off.

Its just funny to me y'all use a term of oppression as a greeting or endearment. And then flip out if anybody else uses it, not that I do anyway. Its incredibly uncivilized to talk like that in general and unless you're a rapper or baller people that speak with that lingo won't make it anywhere.

But as for the 2nd part we saw blatant racism against Luka for being white on camera and the league did absolutely nothing. If it had been reversed you can bet your ass the white guy would be black balled from the league.

[meat]

I can see it being weird when an old billionaire says it. Where I work everybody says it ... Mexicans, Nicaraugan, black, white ... even a Vietnamese guy says it. I don't because I'm not a wannabe and I learned how to speak properly. They sound like idiots.

[Bronbron23]

Its just funny to me y'all use a term of oppression as a greeting or endearment. And then flip out if anybody else uses it, not that I do anyway. Its incredibly uncivilized to talk like that in general and unless you're a rapper or baller people that speak with that lingo won't make it anywhere.

But as for the 2nd part we saw blatant racism against Luka for being white on camera and the league did absolutely nothing. If it had been reversed you can bet your ass the white guy would be black balled from the league.

I think it's alot deeper than just being uncivilized man. Bkacks started doing it originally to take power away from such a strong word that was intended to dehumanize a people. Hundreds of years later it's been carried down and it's just gotten carried away. Up until the last few decades it was used only amongst other blacks. Now it's used openly in front of white people and whoever else.

As far as luka i agree it's a double standard. I think the reason why the league reacts different is because of the historical context of racism. I understand that mind set but it's to complicated for most white people to understand so it's best to just have a zero tolerance policy for any racism wherw everyone gets punished equally

[tpols]

I think it's alot deeper than just being uncivilized man. Bkacks started doing it originally to take power away from such a strong word that was intended to dehumanize a people. Hundreds of years later it's been carried down and it's just gotten carried away. Up until the last few decades it was used only amongst other blacks. Now it's used openly in front of white people and whoever else.

As far as luka i agree it's a double standard. I think the reason why the league reacts different is because of the historical context of racism. I understand that mind set but it's to complicated for most white people to understand so it's best to just have a zero tolerance policy for any racism wherw everyone gets punished equally

I don't know when it started to become prominent tbh. I don't hear Walt Frazier, or Wilt, or Bill Russell or those older guys speaking like that. Seems to be a newer generation thing.

[ArbitraryWater]

lmao

Watson with the optics :roll::roll:

[Kblaze8855]

Its just funny to me y'all use a term of oppression as a greeting or endearment. And then flip out if anybody else uses it, not that I do anyway. Its incredibly uncivilized to talk like that in general and unless you're a rapper or baller people that speak with that lingo won't make it anywhere.

But as for the 2nd part we saw blatant racism against Luka for being white on camera and the league did absolutely nothing. If it had been reversed you can bet your ass the white guy would be black balled from the league.




https://youtu.be/GzRtZ6pWYw8


Go ahead.

[FultzNationRISE]

To be honest, in light of the NFL recently announcing it will NOT release findings of a major investigation into the internal communication of its leadership - which are suspected to be far more “damning” than this non-story about Sarver...

Makes me wonder if this isnt a calculated diversion to make it seem like leagues and media do care about truth and justice etc (they obviously dont) without having to release stuff that would legitimately harm their business.

Wouldnt surprise me if Sarver was ready to sell anyway, and he and his cronies concocted this frivolous “exposé” to divert from the real story being swept under the rug. There is a lot of cross ownership in the NFL and NBA, and obviously owners are friendly with one another.

It’s pure speculation, but I certainly think it’s well within the realm of possibility.

[Bronbron23]

Well where are you from? That makes a big difference.

I'm from Canada nova scotia. We have the most black communities out of any province. It's very segregated almost like the south in the us to a point. U definitely can't say that shit here in general if your white but i'm sure there's some wack ninjas somewhere here that allow it.

[Bronbron23]

I don't know when it started to become prominent tbh. I don't hear Walt Frazier, or Wilt, or Bill Russell or those older guys speaking like that. Seems to be a newer generation thing.

I can't speak for them but i know my older family members used to say it but again it was in the comfort of other black folk. They'd never use it in the general public.

Qnd some blacks young and old refuse to use it because they feel similar to you in that it's ignorant. It's a complicated debate even within the black community

[Bronbron23]

https://youtu.be/GzRtZ6pWYw8


Go ahead.

That's hilarious

[Jasper]

This is such a non story lmao

Employees recounted conduct they felt was inappropriate and misogynistic, including Sarver once passing around a picture of his wife in a bikini to employees and speaking about times his wife performed oral sex on him.
Sounds like he owns people to me...

plez remember - lettuce discuss what CP3 was to the players union (not laughing now ??)

[bladefd]

Sarver will deny it all, ofc. Then it will turn into he said-she said. I won't be surprised if Sarver files a defamation suit against ESPN. Then it will probably get nowhere and we will be right back to where we are now.

Usually, that's how it goes. This is not like Donald Sterling stuff, which I think was recorded, and I think the other owners hated Sterling. Sarver doesn't seem to be in same position as Sterling. I didn't even read the full article except for snippets posted here because I know how it will go.

[Kblaze8855]

I’m waiting for the lebatard show tomorrow. Amin was a Suns executive from 04-12 and will give some unusually candid takes at times when he’s not prevented by an NDA(ESPN has him hushed for a while longer).

Hes been talking shit about Sarver being terrible for years with no mention of race. I’m sure we get some good insider info even if he says he never heard such things.

Nothing like a talkative legit insider.

I wanna hear about Sarver drawing up impossible to run plays in the locker room and wanting them to do it in game. Watson said he had them setting picks in the restricted area….

[Shogon]

I empathize with all of my oppressed white brethren unable to call black people ******s due to the oppression of liberal society. I want all of you to go up to the biggest strongest black guys you can find and call them ******. Not online that will do nothing. Do it to their faces. Several times a day. As often as possible. Show the world you are unafraid of societal norms.

Ok, the owner is a dogshit idiot and I'll wait until more comes out to make a full judgement on him but it sounds like he's a racist asshole. We'll see.

It is different for it to come from black people, it's undeniable.

However, that doesn't make it ok.

Nobody should be using the word in any variation. It isn't "taking the power" from the word. It is still giving the word power.

White people who use that word as part of their vocabulary are on another level of disgusting. Black people that use that word in any form are just as ignorant, perhaps just not with the hatred. Either way, it's bad.

tldr: Suns owner probably will lose ownership, no problem, black people shouldn't use the word and white people DEFINITELY shouldn't use the word.

Anyone that wants to keep the word around if only even for blacks is just an ignorant prick.

One thing is for sure though... that word will keep being used by both blacks and whites long after my sorry ass is gone. The world has a long ways to go.

[bladefd]

As I said is exactly how it's going.

https://twitter.com/KellanOlson/status/1456352135491186693

Turning it into he said-she said, and Suns are getting ready to file a defamation suit against the ESPN writer Baxter Holmes.

[Bronbron23]

Ok, the owner is a dogshit idiot and I'll wait until more comes out to make a full judgement on him but it sounds like he's a racist asshole. We'll see.

It is different for it to come from black people, it's undeniable.

However, that doesn't make it ok.

Nobody should be using the word in any variation. It isn't "taking the power" from the word. It is still giving the word power.

White people who use that word as part of their vocabulary are on another level of disgusting. Black people that use that word in any form are just as ignorant, perhaps just not with the hatred. Either way, it's bad.

tldr: Suns owner probably will lose ownership, no problem, black people shouldn't use the word and white people DEFINITELY shouldn't use the word.

Anyone that wants to keep the word around if only even for blacks is just an ignorant prick.

One thing is for sure though... that word will keep being used by both blacks and whites long after my sorry ass is gone. The world has a long ways to go.

Blacks who use the word are not just as bad. That's ridiculous.

[Shogon]

Blacks who use the word are not just as bad. That's ridiculous.

The point I was trying to make is that it empowers the word that much longer and keeps it around that much longer and in that context, yes.

[NBAGOAT]

there is a ridiculous amount of bad behavior here besides the racism lol. the sexual harassment stuff is a HR nightmare and pantsing someone who worked for him in front of a large crowd is comical

[bdonovan]

There's A LOT in this article, from minor transgressions (stupid stuff but kind of harmless) to major transgressions that no executive should get caught doing.

As an example of a minor transgression - he gets blamed for having women in the Suns org meet with women in a bank he owned and the critique is 'perhaps he thought the Suns women weren't as tough as the women who worked at the bank'. Very hard to see anything wrong or problematic with this.

On the other hand, some of the things he's done, that should not have happened:

* "More than a dozen employees recalled Sarver making lewd comments in all-staff meetings, including discussing times when his wife would perform oral sex on him.....Former employees said he asked players about their sex lives and the sexual prowess of their significant others."

* "Sarver remarked to two basketball operations staffers that the Suns needed to have local strippers impregnated by NBA players so those players would have children in the Phoenix area and feel obliged to be closer to them, giving the Suns a potential edge in free agency" (whether a 'joke' or not, has no place in a work setting)

To me, this is less a 'cancellation' due to a gotcha moment of using the N word, but how fu*ked up an organization can become when the person at the top does not exhibit any professionalism or decency.

When you see him using the N word (verified by enough personnel it seems hard to deny) is it any surprise you have white executives calling black employees "Carlton"; or when he talks about hiring prostitutes for the players, that women in the Suns organization apparently got degraded routinely (ie: male executive asking one woman what another male exec's ***** looked like and implying she had sex with multiple people in the org, etc.).

[FultzNationRISE]

Ok, the owner is a dogshit idiot and I'll wait until more comes out to make a full judgement on him but it sounds like he's a racist asshole. We'll see.

It is different for it to come from black people, it's undeniable.

However, that doesn't make it ok.

Nobody should be using the word in any variation. It isn't "taking the power" from the word. It is still giving the word power.

White people who use that word as part of their vocabulary are on another level of disgusting. Black people that use that word in any form are just as ignorant, perhaps just not with the hatred. Either way, it's bad.

tldr: Suns owner probably will lose ownership, no problem, black people shouldn't use the word and white people DEFINITELY shouldn't use the word.

Anyone that wants to keep the word around if only even for blacks is just an ignorant prick.

One thing is for sure though... that word will keep being used by both blacks and whites long after my sorry ass is gone. The world has a long ways to go.

Nigggah PLEASE! :biggums:


You know it's literally just the latin word 'negro' (black) pronounced with a thick old school southern drawl... yes?

So it's the exact equivalent of labels we use all the time (black, white etc) but in a different language. It's a direct translation. Same word, same meaning.

This is like saying the words 'Mexican' or 'jew' or 'homosexual' should not be used, because some people use them disdainfully, derisively, dismissively, disturbingly, or whatever other d-words you can fit inside your mouth.

It's... absurd.

It's a WORD.

People are fighting about what color person is somehow "socially permitted" to use which WORD!? It is seriously one of the dumbest things in the world.

There is no word that shouldnt be considered in context. If you over hear me saying "ahh fvck" after I drop all the books I'm carrying, you'll likely have a much different reaction than if I walk up to you and say "Hey FVCK FACE." Does that mean "the f word" should be allowed? Shouldnt be allowed? We have to pick one, right? Or is it only okay for clumsy people to use it, but if you're not clumsy and accident prone, you can't be able to?

It's all completely nonsensical hogwash. If I'm bustin out lyrics I'm hearing in my headphones, or repeating some old chappelle monologue when I'm chatting with my friends, and I repeat the word n!gga, and some idiot wants to FIGHT me over that??? Let him come up to me and I will do this in his face: :roll:

Since unlike RealMenweargreen I'm not a weak, soft, pathetic, useless suck-up bitch afraid to 'step out of line' with media conformity.


Imagine an entire society arguing over who's allowed to use WORDS.

Shit is utterly cartoonish. Human Turds Wear Green gave the exact kinda take I would expect from him. You should be smarter than that.

[Kblaze8855]

It’s not about “allowed”. I don’t see any charges being filed. It’s about what saying certain things and having it be known does to your business interests. You can say whatever you want. People can consider you a scumbag as a result. Will a lot of them be lying about not doing the same in private?

Sure. But being a hypocrite and a liar is just being a human. 100 percent rate in my experience.

He can say whatever. So can you. And the people who hear it can think whatever they wish about you as a result. It may hurt your business. And your business partners. Nothing unusual about that. Nothing wrong either.

Just adulthood and business.

[Bronbron23]

The point I was trying to make is that it empowers the word that much longer and keeps it around that much longer and in that context, yes.

I hear you man but if blacks want to take a word that was used for hate and turn it into a term of endearment that's their buisness. White people aren't stupid. They know not to use it and honestly should just stay out of the conversation when ir pertains to blacks using the word. I really don't see what the issue is. It's pretty simple man. If your white just don't say it. If your black It's personal preference.

[RRR3]

I empathize with all of my oppressed white brethren unable to call black people ******s due to the oppression of liberal society. I want all of you to go up to the biggest strongest black guys you can find and call them ******. Not online that will do nothing. Do it to their faces. Several times a day. As often as possible. Show the world you are unafraid of societal norms.
:oldlol:

They won’t do shit, pathetic cowards.

[FultzNationRISE]

It’s not about “allowed”. I don’t see any charges being filed. It’s about what saying certain things and having it be known does to your business interests. You can say whatever you want. People can consider you a scumbag as a result. Will a lot of them be lying about not doing the same in private?

Sure. But being a hypocrite and a liar is just being a human. 100 percent rate in my experience.

He can say whatever. So can you. And the people who hear it can think whatever they wish about you as a result. It may hurt your business. Nothing unusual about that.

Of course he can. But look up these conversations anywhere and you will find most people using the phrase "white people can't say blah blah blah."

The implication is that it's prohibitive on some kind of moral/philosophical grounds. When people say "whites cant use that word" theyre not talking about financial risk to a business endeavor. They're tasking all society to conform to a standard that is personally comfortable for themselves.

[Kblaze8855]

If I say “You can’t call a nugget a wing because you pre dipped it in sauce” it doesn’t mean you literally can’t sell “boneless wings”. It means I’m saying I disagree with the practice. It obviously isn’t literal. It’s a strong suggestion.

[FultzNationRISE]

If I say “You can’t call a nugget a wing because you pre dipped it in sauce” it doesn’t mean you literally can’t sell “boneless wings”. It means I’m saying I disagree with the practice. It obviously isn’t literal. It’s a strong suggestion.

If you say it in some joking/observational way to your friends as you sit down in a booth at wild wings, sure.

If you're adamantly insisting to strangers that no person should ever be allowed to call a nugget a wing... then obviously you're being petty, neurotic, and entirely too self important.

[Kblaze8855]

Joking or serious it would be obvious the “can’t” means “shouldn’t” and the “allowed” wouldn’t be literal either unless you assume I mean boneless wing pushers should be killed on the spot.

It would take quite a leap to get from where you knew I was to where you would need me to be in order to get upset about it.

[FultzNationRISE]

Joking or serious it would be obvious the “can’t” means “shouldn’t” and the “allowed” wouldn’t be literal either unless you assume I mean boneless wing pushers should be killed on the spot.

It would take quite a leap to get from where you knew I was to where you would need me to be in order to get upset about it.


So you think this post is about business consequences:


Ok, the owner is a dogshit idiot and I'll wait until more comes out to make a full judgement on him but it sounds like he's a racist asshole. We'll see.

It is different for it to come from black people, it's undeniable.

However, that doesn't make it ok.

Nobody should be using the word in any variation. It isn't "taking the power" from the word. It is still giving the word power.

White people who use that word as part of their vocabulary are on another level of disgusting. Black people that use that word in any form are just as ignorant, perhaps just not with the hatred. Either way, it's bad.

tldr: Suns owner probably will lose ownership, no problem, black people shouldn't use the word and white people DEFINITELY shouldn't use the word.

Anyone that wants to keep the word around if only even for blacks is just an ignorant prick.

One thing is for sure though... that word will keep being used by both blacks and whites long after my sorry ass is gone. The world has a long ways to go.

That is probably THE most commonly held sentiment in these discussions.

And you think his point is about business consequences?

Dude. Stop it.

[FultzNationRISE]

Also I never got the impression YOU waste your time getting worked up into offense over something this pointless.

You're arguing just to argue.

Rules about "Who can use the word *****" is the kinda shit BAN's (Bitch Ass ******) concern themselves with.

You know what I tell dudes like that?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N-y6ZTBdmI

[Kblaze8855]

I think your point about what was “allowed” in the context of this topic in is about business consequences yes. They are the only issue really. A report on every white person who ever said it would not only be nearly all of you in the parts of the world where it’s common it would have no place as an ESPN investigation.

The whole story is about what it does to his business and that of the nba….and the response from the league to come.

Its about what is “allowed” from business partners. That’s why they get to make it a big deal.

Because the business motivated results will be noteworthy.

[Kblaze8855]

Also I never got the impression YOU waste your time getting worked up into offense over something this pointless.

You're arguing just to argue.

Rules about "Who can use the word *****" is the kinda shit BAN's (Bitch Ass ******) concern themselves with.

You know what I tell dudes like that?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N-y6ZTBdmI

Im not certain I’ve ever been offended by anything. I think that’s a buzzword used to generate controversy. I’m not even sure what that feeling represents in the real world.

Ive thought plenty of people were stupid or hateful as a result of something they said but it’s not gonna like….hurt my feelings.

I spent a lot of time in the south when the current old white people were young and allowed to be openly racist instead of just when nobody is around like now.

Maybe I’m just desensitized.

[John_Connor]

so the nba has received zero complaints from the suns organization and their staff.. sounds like just another attack on a rich white owner like how they tried painting james dolan as a racist like donald sterling

liberals want rich white male conservatives out of power



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvGE2jXLBAo

[FultzNationRISE]

I think your point about what was “allowed” in the context of this topic in is about business consequences yes. They are the only issue really. A report on every white person who ever said it would not only be nearly all of you in the parts of the world where it’s common it would have no place as an ESPN investigation.

The whole story is about what it does to his business and that of the nba….and the response from the league to come.

Its about what is “allowed” from business partners. That’s why they get to make it a big deal.

Because the business motivated results will be noteworthy.


The article, like most "news" in the mainstream media, was written exclusively for the purpose of creating the kind of controversy that generates clicks and attention. They were not trying to open up an earnest and insightful social discussion about words and consequences :lol

My whole point is, anyone who wastes their time and energy getting UPSET because they overheard someone else use a word that hurts their feewings... has deeper issues which censorship will not solve.

Anyway, as usual there is "my reality" and then the public reality. For me there is not ANY word or phrase you could imagine that would cause me to lose sleep because I heard you say it. This is probably not true for most of any background. Even a lot of white people will say "n!gga is no big deal, just a word" but turn around and get upset if you use some other word that bothers them.

My standards for the world are often based on my own reality, which I guess unfortunately is one few people share. So tbh I don't know what the right answer is.

[bdonovan]

so the nba has received zero complaints from the suns organization and their staff.. sounds like just another attack on a rich white owner like how they tried painting james dolan as a racist like donald sterling

liberals want rich white male conservatives out of power



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvGE2jXLBAo

My guess is this is like real-life such as in a company where people similarly do not file these complaints because:
a) Nothing is done about them, and
b) Word gets back to management, who are able to identify the individual based on their description of what happened, etc. and there are repercussions.

To me, the submission of complaints to the NBA may be the least important data point. We can judge the incidents on their own merits apart from whatever was done with the 'formal complaint' system. My comment earlier on this thread highlights reasons Sarver's conduct was unacceptable.

[Kblaze8855]

A big problem is the insistence that consequences for your freedom of speech are the same as censorship in the first place. Censorship isn’t going to solve anything because in these matters it doesn’t exist. You can yell ****** all you like. Preach about Hitler having it right. You can say what you like. It being stupid for a businessman doesn’t make it censorship.

In a league of uneducated southern white males it wouldn’t be bright to say all trump voters are evil. If you did it and had your entire league hating you and many sponsors turned off as a result it would make sense to get a new team owner.

Sarver can say whatever. But saying some things makes it stupid to do business with you. That’s all. Millions of whites are saying it all over America every day. The earth won’t stop spinning. Blacks are hearing it and not marching on the capital. White guy in a group chat of my former co workers said it right in front of me telling a story about something his grandpa used to say. I was the least visibly upset in the group of people who heard it(he actually looked at me and included a “no offense”).

People aren’t as outraged as you think individually. Doesn’t make doing business with people caught behaving that way intelligent in a sport that needs blacks and sponsors who can’t be seen associating in public with it.

[FultzNationRISE]

Of course. I never said anyone’s legal right to speech was suppressed.

All I said was simply it is foolish to react in dramatic fashion to such benign “revelations” as make up the basis of this article.

Having a blanket policy to get outraged over a particular arrangement of letters in the alphabet regardless of context is supremely beta.

Since the media isnt gonna tell people, I thought I might clue them in on how many in the silent majority are quietly perceiving their over-the-top, attention seeking theatrics over a guy saying “niigga” in a harmless context.

For guys like R3 and Real Bitch, it’s all they CAN do to get a little notice and approval once in a while. Otherwise theyre just... disregardable. But most others should expect more of themselves than that.

[bladefd]

there is a ridiculous amount of bad behavior here besides the racism lol. the sexual harassment stuff is a HR nightmare and pantsing someone who worked for him in front of a large crowd is comical

When I was like 6, I did it to a friend of mine. I just pulled his pants/trousers down in front of other friends. I got slapped and kicked in my balls in return lol. I never did it again, but jeez, I still feel bad. The guy stayed my friend until I moved away a year later. It's a terrible and embarrassing thing to do at 6, but as a grown man? Sarver deserves to be punched in the face.

[Shogon]

Nigggah PLEASE! :biggums:


You know it's literally just the latin word 'negro' (black) pronounced with a thick old school southern drawl... yes?

So it's the exact equivalent of labels we use all the time (black, white etc) but in a different language. It's a direct translation. Same word, same meaning.

This is like saying the words 'Mexican' or 'jew' or 'homosexual' should not be used, because some people use them disdainfully, derisively, dismissively, disturbingly, or whatever other d-words you can fit inside your mouth.

It's... absurd.

It's a WORD.

People are fighting about what color person is somehow "socially permitted" to use which WORD!? It is seriously one of the dumbest things in the world.

There is no word that shouldnt be considered in context. If you over hear me saying "ahh fvck" after I drop all the books I'm carrying, you'll likely have a much different reaction than if I walk up to you and say "Hey FVCK FACE." Does that mean "the f word" should be allowed? Shouldnt be allowed? We have to pick one, right? Or is it only okay for clumsy people to use it, but if you're not clumsy and accident prone, you can't be able to?

It's all completely nonsensical hogwash. If I'm bustin out lyrics I'm hearing in my headphones, or repeating some old chappelle monologue when I'm chatting with my friends, and I repeat the word n!gga, and some idiot wants to FIGHT me over that??? Let him come up to me and I will do this in his face: :roll:

Since unlike RealMenweargreen I'm not a weak, soft, pathetic, useless suck-up bitch afraid to 'step out of line' with media conformity.


Imagine an entire society arguing over who's allowed to use WORDS.

Shit is utterly cartoonish. Human Turds Wear Green gave the exact kinda take I would expect from him. You should be smarter than that.

Whether you like it or not and regardless of your "yeah but technically" perspective, the harsh reality is that the word has been used so frequently at this point in a negative context that the irrevocable connotation when a white person says it is that of... "less than" or "subhuman." And so given this fact, not an opinion, fact... it is best for literally ALL of us to stop using it altogether.

It's not about whether people are "allowed" to use the word. Everyone is allowed to use any word that they want. Free speech is a thing and it's a slippery slope when we get into restricting it. That being said, it's about whether or not they should. And I don't want to get in some long back and forth about other words including the f word, I just want to focus on this word, because that's what we're talking about.

As for this specifically...


repeating some old chappelle monologue when I'm chatting with my friends, and I repeat the word n!gga,

And yet you would not casually refer to some black person as a "*****" especially to another black person, no? This is very painfully obvious. It's an oppressive word and regardless of its origins, it evolved to something that we can't come back from.

We would all be best to not use it. White people definitely shouldn't use it, and blacks that use it are arguably hurting themselves more at this point than whites are. In fact, I would argue such a point. But they're not going to stop using it. They're going to self perpetuate their less than mentality. It is what it is. It sucks. C'est la vie.

[Shogon]

I hear you man but if blacks want to take a word that was used for hate and turn it into a term of endearment that's their buisness. White people aren't stupid. They know not to use it and honestly should just stay out of the conversation when ir pertains to blacks using the word. I really don't see what the issue is. It's pretty simple man. If your white just don't say it. If your black It's personal preference.

No, it's not as simple as it's "their business." While on a surface level, this is certainly a true statement... what I would say is... I'm not trying to regulate what they are allowed to do, free speech is a thing, but it's wrong. It's not endearing. It's perpetuating a victim and less than mentality if only on a subconscious level which bleeds into other shit and continues to serve as one of multiple things that holds them back and keeps them suppressed as a collective as much as possible.

Do I really care if black people call each other n***** at the end of the day? No, I don't. Like I said, free speech is a thing. And beyond that I don't give a **** anyways honestly. Do I think it's disgusting? Yes. Do I think it's extremely ignorant and they are doing themselves no favors? Yes, I do. 100%. No question about it.

But do I care? No, not really.

[HunterSThompson]

My guess is this is like real-life such as in a company where people similarly do not file these complaints because:
a) Nothing is done about them, and
b) Word gets back to management, who are able to identify the individual based on their description of what happened, etc. and there are repercussions.

To me, the submission of complaints to the NBA may be the least important data point. We can judge the incidents on their own merits apart from whatever was done with the 'formal complaint' system. My comment earlier on this thread highlights reasons Sarver's conduct was unacceptable.

in the #metoo #believewomen #blm era? they probly give every female and black person a direct line to Adam silvers office that works in the nba

[Real Men Wear Green]

Of course. I never said anyone’s legal right to speech was suppressed.

All I said was simply it is foolish to react in dramatic fashion to such benign “revelations” as make up the basis of this article.

Having a blanket policy to get outraged over a particular arrangement of letters in the alphabet regardless of context is supremely beta.

Since the media isnt gonna tell people, I thought I might clue them in on how many in the silent majority are quietly perceiving their over-the-top, attention seeking theatrics over a guy saying “niigga” in a harmless context.

For guys like R3 and Real Bitch, it’s all they CAN do to get a little notice and approval once in a while. Otherwise theyre just... disregardable. But most others should expect more of themselves than that.

Hey bitch:

I would love for you specifically to start walking up to black people and calling them ******s to their faces. Please do this with your incessant unintellectual movement that no one worth anything gives a damn about. Show us how brave you are (not).

[Bronbron23]

No, it's not as simple as it's "their business." While on a surface level, this is certainly a true statement... what I would say is... I'm not trying to regulate what they are allowed to do, free speech is a thing, but it's wrong. It's not endearing. It's perpetuating a victim and less than mentality if only on a subconscious level which bleeds into other shit and continues to serve as one of multiple things that holds them back and keeps them suppressed as a collective as much as possible.

Do I really care if black people call each other n***** at the end of the day? No, I don't. Like I said, free speech is a thing. And beyond that I don't give a **** anyways honestly. Do I think it's disgusting? Yes. Do I think it's extremely ignorant and they are doing themselves no favors? Yes, I do. 100%. No question about it.

But do I care? No, not really.

That's fine man you can think whatever you want about it. I'm assuming your not black but there are lots if blacks who feel the way you do about it. I'm just saying it's a debate that should be had amongst black people.

As far as it holding people back i have to disagree. There's lots of blacks who are very successful who use it and there's lots of blacks who don't use who aren't. There's lots of self defeating reasons why some blacks aren't successful in life but the use of the n word isn't one of them man.

[RRR3]

Hey bitch:

I would love for you specifically to start walking up to black people and calling them ******s to their faces. Please do this with your incessant unintellectual movement that no one worth anything gives a damn about. Show us how brave you are (not).
He’d poop his pants if he had to do that Lmaoooo.

[Bronbron23]

Hey bitch:

I would love for you specifically to start walking up to black people and calling them ******s to their faces. Please do this with your incessant unintellectual movement that no one worth anything gives a damn about. Show us how brave you are (not).

Seriously. What is it about blacks using the nword that gets white people's panties in a bunch? It's so weird. It be like me getting upset with a woman calling anothet woman a bitch in a joking way or a gay dude calling another gay dude queer in a similar manner. I don't give a shit that's their thing i just mind my own buisness with something like that and don't have a thought about it.

White people just need to mind their buisness when it comes to blacks using the n word. Simple as that. Just don't use it and for damm sure don't tell a black person if and how to use it.

[Shogon]

There's lots of self defeating reasons why some blacks aren't successful in life but the use of the n word isn't one of them man.

Hard disagree.

[FultzNationRISE]

And yet you would not casually refer to some black person as a "*****" especially to another black person, no? This is very painfully obvious. It's an oppressive word and regardless of its origins, it evolved to something that we can't come back from.

We would all be best to not use it. White people definitely shouldn't use it, and blacks that use it are arguably hurting themselves more at this point than whites are. In fact, I would argue such a point. But they're not going to stop using it. They're going to self perpetuate their less than mentality. It is what it is. It sucks. C'est la vie.

My point is that context still matters just like with anything else. If you grew up around people who use it in colloquial context, it’s not some egregious act to talk the same way. Of course when I hear some inner city white kid (or wannabe-inner city white kid) saying nnigga in everyday speech I think it sounds embarrassing. But people getting ANGRY about it? When he clearly is not being derogatory? If that makes someone angry, it speaks more to a personal insecurity which erasing words wont solve.

Same if some suburban white guy is singing music he listens to or stuff he saw in a movie. To say he “shouldnt say it” as if it’s some big deal is, to me, more of an insinuation that races have different statuses than whatever the guy singing the song is doing. If people are that easily triggered, then maybe diversity and intersectionalism isnt really for them. Maybe they should avoid being in places where “white people rapping the n-word” might trigger them.

I understand your point that itÂ’s a word with a strong repulsive affect when you hear it. Society has become conditioned to hearing it that way due to its frequent appearance in hateful speech. But again, if someone hates you, thats the reality you need to face. And if they dont hate you, then who cares. ItÂ’s really kind of embarrassing and childish the way weve come to treat an arbitrary word like a nuclear weapon.

[FultzNationRISE]

Seriously. What is it about blacks using the nword that gets white people's panties in a bunch? It's so weird. It be like me getting upset with a woman calling anothet woman a bitch in a joking way or a gay dude calling another gay dude queer in a similar manner. I don't give a shit that's their thing i just mind my own buisness with something like that and don't have a thought about it.

White people just need to mind their buisness when it comes to blacks using the n word. Simple as that. Just don't use it and for damm sure don't tell a black person if and how to use it.

What is it about drinking at separate water fountains that gets people in such a tizzy?

Maybe it’s the idea that someone else is making arbitrary rules about who can do what, and expecting you to be submissive to their dictates.

Again, that shit works on betas. R3, Real Bitch etc. Theyre obedient because they dont have the social credibility not to be. If theyre not being obedient little toadstools, they have ZERO life prospects.

Did you see the article excerpts posted here? Sarver wears MAGNUMS bro. He dont care about “the rules.”

[FultzNationRISE]

Hey bitch:

I would love for you specifically to start walking up to black people and calling them ******s to their faces. Please do this with your incessant unintellectual movement that no one worth anything gives a damn about. Show us how brave you are (not).

:roll:


^ The least intimidating tough talk in history :roll:

[Shogon]

My point is that context still matters just like with anything else. If you grew up around people who use it in colloquial context, it’s not some egregious act to talk the same way.

This is essentially the exact same argument that black people make that use the word themselves. It's a hard disagree from me.

Consciously or subconsciously, the other meaning is there, the person saying it knows it, and they're just perpetuating the very existence of the hatred even if not spoken directly with such intent and context, as you put it.

Is it as bad as saying it with a hard er in a hateful way? No, I suppose not. But it's damn near just as damaging. It might even be more damaging on a subconscious level, tbh.

[FultzNationRISE]

This is the exact same argument that black people make that use the word themselves. It's a hard disagree from me.

Consciously or subconsciously, the other meaning is there, the person saying it knows it, and they're just perpetuating the very existence of the hatred even if not spoken directly with such intent and context, as you put it.

Is it AS bad as saying it with a hard er in a hateful way? No, I suppose not. But it's damn near just as damaging. It might even be more damaging on a subconscious level, tbh.


MAGNUMS bro.


Magnums.

[Bronbron23]

What is it about drinking at separate water fountains that gets people in such a tizzy?

Maybe it’s the idea that someone else is making arbitrary rules about who can do what, and expecting you to be submissive to their dictates.

Again, that shit works on betas. R3, Real Bitch etc. Theyre obedient because they dont have the social credibility not to be. If theyre not being obedient little toadstools, they have ZERO life prospects.

Did you see the article excerpts posted here? Sarver wears MAGNUMS bro. He dont care about “the rules.”

Drinking from separate water fountains is nowhere near the same thing and white people using the n word shouldn't be arbitrary.

It's not about being obedient it's about having some common sense. Plus your free to say whatever it is you wanna say but i'm also free to punch you in your face for saying it. Again why do you care? Why does any white person want to say the word in the first place? It's weird af dude.

[Real Men Wear Green]

:roll:


^ The least intimidating tough talk in history :roll:
As we all knew, the little bitch is scared. Little bitch will come online and say all kinds of wild crap but would never dare to call a black man "******" to his face. Bitch is as bitch doesn't do.

[FultzNationRISE]

As we all knew, the little bitch is scared. Little bitch will come online and say all kinds of wild crap but would never dare to call a black man "******" to his face. Bitch is as bitch doesn't do.


:wtf:


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BwaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahhahahahahHahahhahahah ahahhahahahahahahahha

:roll:

:roll:


Realmenweargreen :roll: :cry:

[FultzNationRISE]

Drinking from separate water fountains is nowhere near the same thing and white people using the n word shouldn't be arbitrary.

It's not about being obedient it's about having some common sense. Plus your free to say whatever it is you wanna say but i'm also free to punch you in your face for saying it. Again why do you care? Why does any white person want to say the word in the first place? It's weird af dude.

Yeah thats not how it works :lol

[Bronbron23]

Yeah thats not how it works :lol

Not you in particular man just in general with whoever. It's exactly how it works. Plus this notion that we live in a free society is a load of shit. We don't live in a free society It's just that some people are under the misconception that we do.

[FultzNationRISE]

Not you in particular man just in general with whoever. It's exactly how it works. Plus this notion that we live in a free society is a load of shit. We don't live in a free society It's just that some people are under the misconception that we do.

Free speech is a protected right. Punching someone over words is not :lol

Also, I dont go around poking people in the chest and calling them racial slurs. The point about double standards isnt about a “desire” to use offensive language.

The point Sarver is making IMO is that it’s hypocritical to proclaim “everyone is equal” then have completely INCONGRUOUS reactions to people’s speech based on their skin color.

Context is the key. If someone comes up to YOU out of nowhere and says “hey ****** boy!” of course the reasonable reaction would be to beat their ass (even tho it’s not technically a right).

But if you see or hear someone else using it in a benign fashion while theyre going about their business and not even addressing you, and you go up and beef with THEM over it? Then youre the one wearing the clown shoes.

People just need to chill with these contrived “rules.” Just judge each situation for what it is, dont overreact, and dont be a try hard like rrr3. Thats all.

[Bronbron23]

Free speech is a protected right. Punching someone over words is not :lol

Also, I dont go around poking people in the chest and calling them racial slurs. The point about double standards isnt about a “desire” to use offensive language.

The point Sarver is making IMO is that it’s hypocritical to proclaim “everyone is equal” then have completely INCONGRUOUS reactions to people’s speech based on their skin color.

Context is the key. If someone comes up to YOU out of nowhere and says “hey ****** boy!” of course the reasonable reaction would be to beat their ass (even tho it’s not technically a right).

But if you see or hear someone else using it in a benign fashion while theyre going about their business and not even addressing you, and you go up and beef with THEM over it? Then youre the one wearing the clown shoes.

People just need to chill with these contrived “rules.” Just judge each situation for what it is, dont overreact, and dont be a try hard like rrr3. Thats all.

The reactions aren't just based on people's skin color dude. It's based on how a certain group was and still is to a lesser degree treated. The nword comes a long with a shit ton of baggage. When a black person says honky or skin head there's nothing behind it. Whites weren't kidnapped, enslaved, raped, physicaly and mentally assaulted, unable to educate themselves, unable to own anything and unable to protect their their children behind that word. No blacks today dont go through anywhere near that kind of abuse or mistreatment but those things happened to their great, great, great grandparents. Those things had a lasting effect that impact blacks today.

How you and others don't understand this is beyond me.

[FultzNationRISE]

The reactions aren't just based on people's skin color dude. It's based on how a certain group was and still is to a lesser degree treated. The nword comes a long with a shit ton of baggage. When a black person says honky or skin head there's nothing behind it. Whites weren't kidnapped, enslaved, raped, physicaly and mentally assaulted, unable to educate themselves, unable to own anything and unable to protect their their children behind that word. No blacks today dont go through anywhere near that kind of abuse or mistreatment but those things happened to their great, great, great grandparents. Those things had a lasting effect that impact blacks today.

How you and others don't understand this is beyond me.


Sure. Im not ENCOURAGING anyone to use ill-advised language.

I’m simply saying IF other people choose to use it, for whatever reason.. it’s really on you to get over it. If you cant, thats embarrassing. Anyone can play the “I had a relative raped, nobody use the word raped” or “my friend committed suicide, nobody can be allowed to say kill yourself” or “rrr3 has a learning disability, nobody use the word retarded” game and try to police each other into oblivion. If youre uncomfortable with something, just ignore it, or leave, or ask someone to chill with it if theyre conversing with you. Acting like a soapbox champion over this stuff is too much.

Nobody is being ADVISED to use distasteful language. But in a diverse world of 8 billion peeps, it’s gonna happen.

Just learn to ignore things that dont really matter.

[outofstomach]

Hey bitch:

I would love for you specifically to start walking up to black people and calling them ******s to their faces. Please do this with your incessant unintellectual movement that no one worth anything gives a damn about. Show us how brave you are (not).

they wouldn’t, that’s why it isn’t even worth arguing with these people lol

[outofstomach]

they’ll sit online and get on their high horse about how it’s “just a word” and black people shouldn’t use it if white people can’t use it (false equivalency) blah blah etc, but if they were in the presence of some black strangers on the block, they wouldn’t dare utter the word because it’s a shortcut to a problem. there’s lots of videos of non-POC getting knocked out for using ***** and not being black, and rightfully so.

[000]

ITT: being a strong independent alpha male is about saying the nword, apparently

[outofstomach]

and i find it even more endearing that there’s white people in here literally trying to speak for the whole of the black race trying to condemn a word that they literally came up with :lol now the word is ignorant and bad because we decide to reclaim it and use it as a term of endearment :lol please let the goalposts rest

[Shogon]

and i find it even more endearing that there’s white people in here literally trying to speak for the whole of the black race trying to condemn a word that they literally came up with :lol now the word is ignorant and bad because we decide to reclaim it and use it as a term of endearment :lol please let the goalposts rest

It is ignorant you dumb****. But please, tell us all why perpetuating the use of a slur that was used against you for so long is a good thing.

"WE TOOK IT BACK! IT OURS NOW!!! HA HA HA!~!"

Dumb ****ing idiot.

[Bronbron23]

Sure. Im not ENCOURAGING anyone to use ill-advised language.

I’m simply saying IF other people choose to use it, for whatever reason.. it’s really on you to get over it. If you cant, thats embarrassing. Anyone can play the “I had a relative raped, nobody use the word raped” or “my friend committed suicide, nobody can be allowed to say kill yourself” or “rrr3 has a learning disability, nobody use the word retarded” game and try to police each other into oblivion. If youre uncomfortable with something, just ignore it, or leave, or ask someone to chill with it if theyre conversing with you. Acting like a soapbox champion over this stuff is too much.

Nobody is being ADVISED to use distasteful language. But in a diverse world of 8 billion peeps, it’s gonna happen.

Just learn to ignore things that dont really matter.

Or you can learn to not say certain things that you know you probably shouldn't. It's all good though we can agree to disagree

[meat]

I'm from Canada nova scotia. We have the most black communities out of any province. It's very segregated almost like the south in the us to a point. U definitely can't say that shit here in general if your white but i'm sure there's some wack ninjas somewhere here that allow it.

:lol NOVA SCOTIA!! Yea ... it's different up there. Trust me the south isn't segregated. It's where most black Americans live.
You're in white hell, get out of there! A brotha in Nova Scotia trying to act hood:facepalm:lol

[Bronbron23]

:lol NOVA SCOTIA!! Yea ... it's different up there. Trust me the south isn't segregated. It's where most black Americans live.
You're in white hell, get out of there! A brotha in Nova Scotia trying to act hood:facepalm:lol

I have fam down south yeah there's lots of blacks but are most not segregated? And i don't act hood dude so not sure what your talking about. Being black dosn't mean acting hood although clearly your an idiot so you probably didn't know that:facepalm

[meat]

I have fam down south yeah there's lots of blacks but are most not segregated? And i don't act hood dude so not sure what your talking about. Being black dosn't mean acting hood although clearly your an idiot so you probably didn't know that:facepalm

You said you'd beat down anybody who said the N word. No, it's not segregated at all. This is not the 1950s. People self segregate to an extent as far as what neighborhood they choose to live in sometimes.

[meat]

Didn't mean to call you hood. It's sometimes a compliment down here :rockon:

[Bronbron23]

You said you'd beat down anybody who said the N word. No, it's not segregated at all. This is not the 1950s. People self segregate to an extent as far as what neighborhood they choose to live in sometimes.

I wouldn't beat them down because i'm hood i'd beat them down because i'm black and for obvious reasons i was raised to not let any white man use that word. Whether you agree with that or not is a different debate and also a worthy one in itself but that's just how i war raised.

[Bronbron23]

Didn't mean to call you hood. It's sometimes a compliment down here :rockon:

Some blacks consider it a compliment but i look at it as ignorant. Nothing wrong with being from the hood but there is a problem with trying to be hood as far as the stereotypical use of the word is concerned.

[meat]

Some blacks consider it a compliment but i look at it as ignorant. Nothing wrong with being from the hood but there is a problem with trying to be hood as far as the stereotypical use of the word is concerned.

Trust me I understand. I get real tired of hearin the damn word and I don't get why the brothers I work with let it slide.

[meat]

I apologize for taklin shiat. I still can't believe you're in Nova Scotia. That's interesting to me. You're pretty close to Maine which is the whitest place in the U.S. Two different worlds.

[Bronbron23]

I apologize for taklin shiat. I still can't believe you're in Nova Scotia. That's interesting to me. You're pretty close to Maine which is the whitest place in the U.S. Two different worlds.

It's all good brotha. I've been to main it's definitely white as hell. I don't think i saw one black face ever lol. Scotia has a lot of original black settlements so there's alot of black people here. There's still alot more white people though.

[outofstomach]

It is ignorant you dumb****. But please, tell us all why perpetuating the use of a slur that was used against you for so long is a good thing.

"WE TOOK IT BACK! IT OURS NOW!!! HA HA HA!~!"

Dumb ****ing idiot.
yeah yeah bro, ive seen every single argument trotted out for this topic, not gonna engage with a closeted racist

it isn’t any of your business to tell black people what they can do with a word that was used to oppress them, go watch CNN or some shit

[Shogon]

yeah yeah bro, ive seen every single argument trotted out for this topic, not gonna engage with a closeted racist

it isn’t any of your business to tell black people what they can do with a word that was used to oppress them, go watch CNN or some shit

Why not use the hard er then? Why not call little black kids ni**ers? After all, you took the power back right? Low IQ ****ing moron.

[Proctor]

outofstomach in a topic he probably shouldn't be in if he's trying to conceal the fact he's highwhey :lol

Sarver and race...whew.

[meat]

This is for my new friend Bronbron23 ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VorxBhRxZGo

[jbryan1984]

lol this thread. In my opinion, the word used by anyone in any way just fuels the fire.

[Bronbron23]

This is for my new friend Bronbron23 ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VorxBhRxZGo:oldlol: that shits hilarious especially if you been to Toronto. I have a bunch a friends and fam from Toronto and that's exactly how they talk and act. It's like a mix of Jamaican and British slang. There's alot of Jamaicans in Toronto.

[meat]

Closest I got was Syracuse in August. My white ass and my brothers down here don't do cold.

[Bronbron23]

Closest I got was Syracuse in August. My white ass and my brothers down here don't do cold.

Lol i hear ya man. it gets rough down here in the winter. Every winter i curse the cold and swear i'm moving to Florida or something. My uncle has a house on a golf course in naples. A bunch of us go up every year for a few weeks. We just golf all day and club at night. Usually go up to miami Beach for a couple nights to get it in. This was post covid. Haven't been since. I could get used to that shit.

[SATAN]

I'm latino white and you won't do shit. If you attack me it means you have no control over your emotional responses and are basically a child. I'd kick your ass anyways nikka

lol imagine being 5'6 and saying shit like this

[Horatio33]

All the white Trump fans in this thread just want to use the N-Word when talking to black people like their grandfather's did.

[BigShotBob]

Those quotes are hilarious.

[eliteballer]

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/vince-carter-says-suns-owner-robert-sarver-told-team-to-take-me-out-when-he-returned-as-an-opponent/amp/

[WhiteKyrie]

Its actually a hilarious hypocrisy. African American players can drop N-bombs and even use racial slurs against other non-black players, but if anybody else does that they get cancelled. Blatant contradiction.
100%

[wagexslave]

I still hate Sarver for the way he dismantled the once great Nash-era team, made stupid ass decisions that likely prevented them from winning a chip, and when it was all said and done he made decisions that kept us in a 10 year long rebuild despite drafting lottery pick after lottery pick. So I wouldn't mind seeing him gone at all. Especially if we could finally experience having a good owner for the first time since I became a die hard fan.

But it's pretty sus that almost every accusation is from a disgruntled ex-employee, and they all just happened to wait until the exact same time to complain about him. And of course it just happens to be when the Suns finally are a good team again when they decide to come out with this. Especially when I heard that the league supposedly has phone numbers where you can report people for stuff like this. Why did nobody make a call? I don't doubt that Sarver probably said/did the vast majority of these things, but I'm not sold on these dudes being that offended by what he said at the time.
Sounds like their real motivation behind this was that still probably butthurt because of the way(or reason) they got fired and are trying to take advantage of cancel culture to get revenge on Sarver.

I commend their effort though tbh. Not every hero has a cape, and these guys are definitely heroes for trying to rid the city of Phoenix of this villain. But I'm not sure some he-said, she-said quotes about the guy being a dickhead(which we already knew for ages) is enough for the league to go on to force him to sell the entire team. You'd think SOMEONE surely would have at least SOME evidence if he did anything that is truly illegal. But so far the worst thing he's done that's been 100% confirmed is him admitting to pantsing an employee in front of a ton of other employees. That's pretty ****ed, and potentially the league could use the fact that Sarver admitted to doing that towards forcing him to sell the team. But is it enough? Can the league remove him for simply being an immature edgy dick who allegedly said racially offensive things a few times? Idk.

[eliteballer]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/video-suns-owner-robert-sarver-jokes-employees-allegations-nba-041812731.html

[ArbitraryWater]

lmao


Watson trying to use his race as leverage talking about "optics"

what a shameful person

[WhiteKyrie]

You have to differentiate between the the -a and the -er.

Anyone can use -a if you grew up around blacks and hispanics.

Hispanics that use it are cringe as hell bro, they have no right to say it either.

The point is, you can’t use it willy-nilly and then get mad when other people use it, even though it’s so prevalent in pop culture. You can’t simultaneously use it in a cool way, then get all touchy and butt hurt when somebody else uses it. It’s 100% a massive double standard, as most things are with the black community.

They don’t want equal treatment, they want preferential treatment.