Give me a stats argument why Jordan is better than LeBron

[Pip' N Rodman]

Rebounds? No

Assists? No

FG%? No

3 point %? No

Career Totals? No

Peak Playoff stats? No

Peak Finals stats? No

Triple Doubles? No


So what is it?

[coastalmarker99]

If the GOAT debate was sorely about stats and how good you were as an individual player.


Then Wilt would be basically untouchable.



And If the GOAT debate was sorely about team success then Russell would basically be untouchable.

[TheCorporation]

Game Winners? No

Steals? No

Blocks? No

Cupcake rings? Yes. That is the only category MJ is the king of, winning cupcake rings.

[Baller789]

All time NBA scoring leaders

1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 38387
2. Karl Malone 36928
3. LeBron James 35516
4. Kobe Bryant 33643
5. Michael Jordan 32292

Lebron is the 3rd GOAT.

Am I doing it right BranStans?

[HunterSThompson]

PER was invented by lebron loving media members and Jordan is #1 all time in career PER

10 scoring titles to 1

all time ppg average in playoffs and regular season

way more 40, 50 and 60 point games

way better mid range and free throw percentages


lebron might force more assists out of a ball dominant offense and grab a few more rebounds simply for being taller. but that doesn't equal wins. stats are subjective and situational scoring is way more of a telling sign of greatness. like when lebron goes silent and defers when the pressures high. he won't take a game winner when he's losing and prefers the game to be tied. he's way more passive unless it's some leastern conference bums.


Jordan's defensive stats are better as well. OP needs a break from this place. honest to God steve give it a rest

[dankok8]

Jordan is in a class all by himself in terms of peak playoff stats...


Playoffs 1986-1993 (107 games)

34.9 ppg, 6.7 rpg (1.6 o), 6.6 apg, 2.3 spg, 1.0 bpg on 58.1 %TS (+4.5 rTS) with 3.3 topg

Finals 1986-1993 (17 games)

36.3 ppg, 6.6 rpg (1.7 o), 7.9 apg, 2.0 spg, 0.8 bpg on 59.1 %TS (+5.5 rTS) with 2.6 topg

[2much_knowledge]

Well, looks like it already backfired and i don't even have to make it worse

[Axe]

That thing called turnovers. Duh.

[LeCola]

Rings
Finals record
FMVPs
MVPs
DPOY
Scoring titles
Steals titles
All defensive teams

:oldlol:

:lol

:roll:

:banana:

[HunterSThompson]

Rings
Finals record
FMVPs
MVPs
DPOY
Scoring titles
Steals titles
All defensive teams

:oldlol:

:lol

:roll:

:banana:

yeah and even analytics are on Jordan's side. lebron literally only has Karl Malone longevity shit on his side lmao

its like OP wants people to shit on lebron cause he secretly hates his ass

[Pip' N Rodman]

yeah and even analytics are on Jordan's side. lebron literally only has Karl Malone longevity shit on his side lmao

its like OP wants people to shit on lebron cause he secretly hates his ass

lol how many alts do you have? you've created like 6 alts since I joined this place last May

[outofstomach]

Rings
Finals record
FMVPs
MVPs
DPOY
Scoring titles
Steals titles
All defensive teams

:oldlol:

:lol

:roll:

:banana:they’ll shift the argument to “weak era”

[Airupthere]

Rebounds? No

Assists? No

FG%? No

3 point %? No

Career Totals? No

Peak Playoff stats? No

Peak Finals stats? No

Triple Doubles? No


So what is it?

Dont forget free throw shooting. Lebron is the better free throw shooter and in fact, Lebron is the best free throw shooter of all time. He leads the most number of fts made in the playoffs. Name anyone that comes close. None. Lebron dominates the ft category as well.

[Bronbron23]

Rebounds? No

Assists? No

FG%? No

3 point %? No

Career Totals? No

Peak Playoff stats? No

Peak Finals stats? No

Triple Doubles? No


So what is it?

Mvps? Yes

Dpoys? Yes

First team defensive teams? Yes

Scoring titles? Yes

Fmvp's? Yes

Chips? Yes

Tougher defensive era? Yes

Choking in the finals? No

Colluding? No

Out played in the finals multiple times? No

Shall i continue?:oldlol:

[Airupthere]

Mvps? Yes

Dpoys? Yes

First team defensive teams? Yes

Scoring titles? Yes

Fmvp's? Yes

Chips? Yes

Tougher defensive era? Yes

Choking in the finals? No

Colluding? No

Out played in the finals multiple times? No

Shall i continue?:oldlol:

Flopping? No

Fake reading books in public? No

[Bronbron23]

Flopping? No

Fake reading books in public? No fake reading books in public :oldlol:

[3ba11]

Jordan averages 5 more points in the playoffs with better efficiency per possession - there's never been a player that averaged 5 more on better efficiency that wasn't considered the far better player.

And Jordan was scoring champ and top 5 DPOY from 88-98' - that's the goat standard of play and goat longevity of the goat caliber.

Ultimately, Jordan had the #1 production rate, aka he did the most per game - he's #1 all-time in PPG, plus-minus, PER, WS/48, BPM, VORP, clutch

[getting_old]

Heart

Killer Instinct

Jordan a million days in a row over LeBron

[Bronbron23]

Damn talk about thread backfire

[noonereal]

Rebounds? No

Assists? No

FG%? No

3 point %? No

Career Totals? No

Peak Playoff stats? No

Peak Finals stats? No

Triple Doubles? No


So what is it?

Jordan is better for one reason, marketing.

[2much_knowledge]

Lebron is just no match. Hope to see a real goat candidate before i die

[IMObjective]

Jordan is better for one reason, marketing.

This, LeBron does not get any marketing, how unfair.

[Dagoods]

5x Regular Season MVP
6x NBA Champion
6x NBA Final Champion
10 Scoring Titles
9x All NBA First Team
1x DPOY
30.00 PPG (NBA Record)
33.4 PPG in the Playoffs (NBA Record)
33.6 PPG in the NBA Finals (2nd to Ricky Barry/some wanker who played in the 70s)

Additional Feats:

Better Shoes
More wives
Better mistresses
Better Actor (Space Jam)
Bigger Pair of Testicles

[Airupthere]

This, LeBron does not get any marketing, how unfair.

Lol exactly. :oldlol:

[Baller789]

Lol exactly. :oldlol:

Lebron barely gets any media coverage.
Poor guy.