Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #42

[dankok8]

List

#1 - Michael Jordan
#2 - Lebron James
#3 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
#4 - Bill Russell
#5 - Wilt Chamberlain
#6 - Magic Johnson
#7 - Shaquille O'Neal
#8 - Tim Duncan
#9 - Larry Bird
#10 - Hakeem Olajuwon
#11 - Kobe Bryant
#12 - Stephen Curry
#13 - Oscar Robertson
#14 - Jerry West
#15 - Moses Malone
#16 - Julius Erving
#17 - Kevin Durant
#18 - Kevin Garnett
#19 - Karl Malone
#20 - Dirk Nowitzki
#21 - Charles Barkley
#22 - David Robinson
#23 - Dwyane Wade
#24 - Elgin Baylor
#25 - Scottie Pippen
#26 - Giannis Antetokounmpo
#27 - John Havlicek
#28 - Isiah Thomas
#29 - Bob Pettit
#30 - Chris Paul
#31 - Kawhi Leonard
#32 - Rick Barry
#33 - James Harden
#34 - Patrick Ewing
#35 - Bob Cousy
#36 - John Stockton
#37 - Jason Kidd
#38 - Steve Nash
#39 - Willis Reed
#40 - Walt Frazier
#41 - Allen Iverson
#42 - VOTING NOW

Top 50 Player Pool

For an updated player pool and vote breakdowns see the link.

Everyone may post in this thread but only votes from serious contributors will be considered. Not everyone has to write an essay but there should be some justification or explanation and some coherent arguments being presented. I encourage people to be open-minded and willing to adjust their rankings in response to strong evidence. Debate and discussion is encouraged.

Opening Vote Tally

Clyde Drexler - 3 (Reggie43, SouBeachTalents, RRR3)
Russell Westbrook - 3 (OOO, imdaman99, ELITEpower23)
Kevin McHale - 1 (Round Mound)
Bill Walton - 1 (fsvr54)

[HBK_Kliq_2]

How the hell did Bill Walton get a vote? He had 2 good seasons and judging by his commentary he clearly has autism.

[dankok8]

I'll go with Elvin Hayes who I picked a while ago before the whole Frazier v. Iverson thing started.

[000]

How the hell did Bill Walton get a vote? He had 2 good seasons and judging by his commentary he clearly has autism.
:lol

[RRR3]

How the hell did Bill Walton get a vote? He had 2 good seasons and judging by his commentary he clearly has autism.
The irony of you saying this when you rank Kawhi 1st

[RRR3]

I'll go with Elvin Hayes who I picked a while ago before the whole Frazier v. Iverson thing started.
Dude was a complete brick and team cancer.

[dankok8]

Dude was a complete brick and team cancer.

He wasn't much of a team cancer when he led the Bullets to 3 finals including a title. E averaged 23/13 in the playoffs on roughly league average efficiency and also played pretty good D.

[Phoenix]

How the hell did Bill Walton get a vote? He had 2 good seasons and judging by his commentary he clearly has autism.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/dJtoGmnupA00QaJitW/200.gif

[HBK_Kliq_2]

The irony of you saying this when you rank Kawhi 1st

Kawhi has 12 all nba selections and is 18th in career playoff win shares, his resume destroys bill tardon.

Difference between being a quiet guy like kawhi and acting like a damn window licker like tardon

[HBK_Kliq_2]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/dJtoGmnupA00QaJitW/200.gif




https://youtu.be/C-JLYXnSkHw

[RRR3]

The Kwitter ain’t even top 50. HBK just voted him in with his alts.

[Phoenix]

Clyde Drexler

[Manny98]

Westbrook

[fsvr54]

Bill Walton

[colts19]

Bill Walton, I know people will say he didn't play enough. But who would you rather have to win a championship, Walton for 3 years or Parrish for 20?

[Airupthere]

Im voting one of my favorite players, ray allen

[francesco totti]

Russell Westbrook

[L.Kizzle]

Bill Walton, I know people will say he didn't play enough. But who would you rather have to win a championship, Walton for 3 years or Parrish for 20?
Walton should be top 20 if that's the case. And there are still MVPs who were champions in the boars. And where is George Mikan.

[RRR3]

Walton should be top 20 if that's the case. And there are still MVPs who were champions in the boars. And where is George Mikan.
Reread the thread title and you’ll find out where Mikan is.

[L.Kizzle]

Reread the thread title and you’ll find out where Mikan is.
Mikan is on the original pool of players available.

[LBJ]

what are the options?

Edit: Count me in for Westbrook.

[Lebron_James]

Kevin McHale

[TheCorporation]

Goatbrook

[1987_Lakers]

Drexler.

George Gervin deserves some discussion as well.

[Naero]

It's high time Gary Payton gets some traction. His defensive legacy is unignorable at this point in the rankings: he's probably the GOAT PG on that end, and he's the only consensus top-ten all-time defender and elite two-way player that hasn't been voted in yet.

[gonzaldo]

Drexler
If Portland does the sensible thing and picks Jordan, Drexler would be where Pippen is now.

[Phoenix]

Drexler
If Portland does the sensible thing and picks Jordan, Drexler would be where Pippen is now.

Pippen facilitated the triangle and was a better defender, so that hypothetical duo doesn't work the same way MJ and Pippen did. Pip gives up scoring ground to Clyde but not anything else.

[Nike D'Antoni]

Mr. Triple Double Russell Westbrook

[dankok8]

I'll go with Drexler.

We have Westbrook 8 Drexler 7 right now.

[Lebron_James]

I go with Westbrook. Since Mchale has no chance.

[fsvr54]

Mikan is on the original pool of players available.

Oh shit, I assumed Mikan would be on it already. Y'all are dumb.

I'm voting him every round from now on (except Richmond deserves 50th).

[1987_Lakers]

Oh shit, I assumed Mikan would be on it already. Y'all are dumb.

I'm voting him every round from now on (except Richmond deserves 50th).

Just look at the title of this thread if you want to know why he isn't on the list.

Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #42

[SouBeachTalents]

Just look at the title of this thread if you want to know why he isn't on the list.

Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #42
That's had to be explained so many times during this ranking :lol

[gonzaldo]

Pippen facilitated the triangle and was a better defender, so that hypothetical duo doesn't work the same way MJ and Pippen did. Pip gives up scoring ground to Clyde but not anything else.

there wont be a triangle in Portland, but its hard to imagine they wont win 2-3-4 titles in the late 80s early 90s with MJ, they had better team than Chicago.

[fsvr54]

Bob Pettit it is then.

[ELITEpower23]

Bob Pettit it is then.

Pettit was #29

[Phoenix]

there wont be a triangle in Portland, but its hard to imagine they wont win 2-3-4 titles in the late 80s early 90s with MJ, they had better team than Chicago.

Yeah for whatever reason I had MJ and Drexler on the Bulls when I said that, not Portland. That said, I still feel like MJ and Pippen had more complimentary skillets. But if they somehow ended up with the same Blazers team and THEN MJ is on the team as well? For sure they win multiple chips.

[L.Kizzle]

George Mikan

[dankok8]

George Mikan

This is a shot-clock era list. Mikan is not a candidate.

[L.Kizzle]

This is a shot-clock era list. Mikan is not a candidate.
Mikan was on your pool of players listed lol.

[dankok8]

Mikan was on your pool of players listed lol.

Oh yea because we made the original pool before we decided on doing only a shot-clock era list. I actually wanted to include Mikan but most people were either against it or indifferent so we went with just the shot-clock era so no Mikan. And honestly I think it's better that way. I think most of us don't know much about basketball before 1955.

[L.Kizzle]

Oh yea because we made the original pool before we decided on doing only a shot-clock era list. I actually wanted to include Mikan but most people were either against it or indifferent so we went with just the shot-clock era so no Mikan. And honestly I think it's better that way. I think most of us don't know much about basketball before 1955.
I get it. Mikan would have been the only pre shot clock era player who played majority of their careers pee 54. Don't think Joe Fulks and Bob Davies would have been getting results. And guys like Arizin and Schayes played both eras.

[Phoenix]

Oh yea because we made the original pool before we decided on doing only a shot-clock era list. I actually wanted to include Mikan but most people were either against it or indifferent so we went with just the shot-clock era so no Mikan. And honestly I think it's better that way. I think most of us don't know much about basketball before 1955.

Most of this board doesn't know much before 2000. Basketball in 1955 is pretty much the ice age.

[dankok8]

Westbrook 9 Drexler 7

Let's get a few more votes!

[fsvr54]

I'll change my vote to Drexler even though I think there's more deserving players, no way in hell Westbrook is a top 50 player.

[000]

I'll change my vote to Drexler even though I think there's more deserving players, no way in hell Westbrook is a top 50 player.

if ivershit is top 50 then so is westbrook.

[L.Kizzle]

Drexler

[Nike D'Antoni]

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[fsvr54]

Dave Cowens
Paul Pierce
Dominique Wilkins
Ray Allen

all deserve mentions before some scrub like Westbrook

[Go Getter]

Westbrook

[ClipperRevival]

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[dankok8]

Ok this one is tied 10-10. I made a poll to resolve the tie.

[dankok8]

Final Vote Tally

Clyde Drexler - 10 (Reggie43, SouBeachTalents, RRR3, Phoenix, 1987_Lakers, gonzaldo, dankok8, fsvr54, L. Kizzle, ClipperRevival)
Russell Westbrook - 10 (OOO, imdaman99, ELITEpower23, Manny98, francesco totti, LBJ, TheCorporation, Nike D'Antoni, Lebron_James, Go Getter)
Kevin McHale - 1 (Round Mound)
Bill Walton - 1 (colts19)
Gary Payton - 1 (Naero)
Ray Allen - 1 (Airupthere)

We made a poll to decide this one and Drexler won by a 21-9 margin. Drexler gets the #42 spot.