View Full Version : is LeBron the biggest quitter in sports history
HunterSThompson
11-09-2021, 01:02 PM
2006 - quits on team USA
2007 - quits the nba finals during a sweep by Tony parker
2008 - quits vs Spain and gets bailed out by kobe
2010 - quits vs Boston
2010 - quits on Cleveland
2011 - quits the finals cause of JJ bareas defense
2014 - quits the finals due to an air conditioner
2014 - quits on miami
2018 - quits the finals in OT game 1 and game 3 with a soft pick and game 4 during a sure sweep
2018 - quits on Cleveland for a 2nd time
2019 - quits the season cause of a pulled groin
2021 - quits the season cause of a sprained ankle
2022 - quits the season due to a sore abdomen
:roll:
Hey Yo
11-09-2021, 01:05 PM
12-47
ShawkFactory
11-09-2021, 01:15 PM
Idk but you’re certainly the most bored individual in ISH history.
1987_Lakers
11-09-2021, 01:17 PM
LeBron is high IQ, why play on an injury this early in the season that can get worse as time goes on, he wants to be fresh as the year goes on. Kobe tried to play trough injuries for most of his career, but at the end of the day what did that do to him? Limit his longevity, his last 3 seasons in the NBA were pathetic, he was easily the worst player in the NBA and it was extremely sad to see him go out that way.
LeBron would never embarrass himself like that.
leopardJuice
11-12-2021, 02:37 AM
Can't believe he was up 2-1 against the old celtics in 2010 and quit
Baller789
11-12-2021, 02:57 AM
In before the Jordan quit after gambling spiel.
Hey Yo
11-12-2021, 03:03 AM
LOL @ you being on the payroll working midnight's
Prometheus
11-12-2021, 03:18 AM
I don't know enough about hockey, baseball, etc. but LeBron does have the most visible quitting instincts of any top-tier NBA superstar that I've ever seen. He wears his heart on his sleeve, and when discouraged he is so visible in his moping.
Spurs m8
11-12-2021, 03:24 AM
Absolutely
Biggest Coward in sports history
Most manufactured player in sports history
getting_old
11-12-2021, 10:37 AM
he makes it hard to respect him sometimes.... :(
it was more enjoyable 100% respecting while loathing Zeke, Abdul-Jabbar, Wilt....
can't even loathe LeBron, he makes himself such a non-entity often, wish he didn't...
ELITEpower23
11-12-2021, 10:41 AM
LOL @ you being on the payroll working midnight's
:oldlol: What can I say, he loves Steve and Jeff. He's a good entry level worker for us.
ELITEpower23
11-12-2021, 10:41 AM
Jordan retired three, yes THREE times :oldlol:
He also quit in game 7 vs Indiana in 2018. Left the game in the 4th and nobody understood why.
Love & Hill saved his ass that game.
Gohan
11-12-2021, 12:27 PM
Less lebron talk more iverson talk
ShawkFactory
11-12-2021, 12:30 PM
He also quit in game 7 vs Indiana in 2018. Left the game in the 4th and nobody understood why.
Love & Hill saved his ass that game.
You talking about the game he played 44 minutes and went 45/8/7/4?
ELITEpower23
11-12-2021, 12:34 PM
You talking about the game he played 44 minutes and went 45/8/7/4?
:oldlol:
SHUT IT DOWN
getting_old
11-12-2021, 12:56 PM
I watched him basically singlehandedly take on the Pistons and beat them in a playoff series, relentless!
But the see-saw and the balance of weighing has lots of shameful stuff as well, way more than practically any other athlete in the GOAT discussions.
ELITEpower23
11-12-2021, 01:13 PM
I watched him basically singlehandedly take on the Pistons and beat them in a playoff series, relentless!
But the see-saw and the balance of weighing has lots of shameful stuff as well, way more than practically any other athlete in the GOAT discussions.
Very big seesaw indeed :oldlol:
1st all time All-NBAs
1st all time Playoff PTS
1st all time MVP win shares
1st all time PO win shares
1st all time PO game winners
1st all time most 30.0 PER Finals runs
2nd all time FMVP winner
1st all time PO VORP
1st all time consecutive 25 ppg
Very up and down :oldlol:
getting_old
11-12-2021, 01:28 PM
Very big seesaw indeed :oldlol:
1st all time All-NBAs
1st all time Playoff PTS
1st all time MVP win shares
1st all time PO win shares
1st all time PO game winners
1st all time most 30.0 PER Finals runs
2nd all time FMVP winner
1st all time PO VORP
1st all time consecutive 25 ppg
Very up and down :oldlol:
that puts him in the GOAT conversation, i only go back to the early 1970s, so I wouldn't argue if you gave me 5 or 6 names that you consider GOAT, including this immortal of the game
it's the deductions from 100 points, for flopping, wussiness, quitting, quitting and not leaving the floor, all the psychodrama he insists on bringing (that i really don't need)
a complicated man
Airupthere
11-12-2021, 01:30 PM
that puts him in the GOAT conversation, i only go back to the early 1970s, so I wouldn't argue if you gave me 5 or 6 names that you consider GOAT, including this immortal of the game
it's the deductions from 100 points, for flopping, wussiness, quitting, quitting and not leaving the floor, all the psychodrama he insists on bringing (that i really don't need)
a complicated man
And playing hot potato from time to time and quitting on his team like in last year's 1st round. He does good stuff but then does something on the contrary.
3ba11
11-12-2021, 09:51 PM
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It's coincidence that the only time MJ didn't have Pippen were his first few years, when nearly EVERYONE loses - Durant, Lebron, Giannis and Curry were lottery in their first few years.. So people weaponize this coincidence, but once MJ had 3 healthy years to develop his team (88'), he made the 2nd Round just like 06' Lebron.. The difference is that Jordan was carrying a rookie low seed in a conference that required a super-team to win, while Lebron had the East all-star center and a high seed in a conference that 1-star teams were winning (iverson, dwight, kidd).
If MJ's Bulls had an extra perennial all-star teammate like Lebron had (Big 3 super-team), or a perennial all-star to play 3rd option like Lebron had (Big 3 super-team), then he would beat any team in history... But MJ only had 1 all-star teammate who never achieved elite 1st option stats (low-producer) and averaged 10-30 less in every series.. So MJ didn't even have an equal-producer at 2nd option like Lebron had with 11' Wade or 20' AD, let alone a 3rd option star (super-team).. Btw, Kyrie's career averages in the FInals are 28 on 47% just like Lebron's, and he outplayed the league MVP, so 16' Kyrie was an equal-producer just like 11' Wade and 20' AD.. Otoh, Pippen's Finals averages are 19 on 42%, so he was nowhere near Jordan's 34 on 48% with more apg..
Accordingly, Jordan lacked the equal-scoring partners that Lebron had, which matters because equal-scoring partners attact equal defensive attention - so only Jordan faced 1-man team defensive coverage for his entire career.. Kenny Smith talks about MJ being the only 1-man show here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UF6Xx3F2Lo&t=01m54s
Furthermore, the Pistons weren't old in 1991 - Isiah/Dumars/Rodman were 29/27/29, while Lebron didn't beat Garnett/Pierce/Allen unil they were 34/33/35
Btw, the 93' Suns and 96' Sonics had 3 all-stars, so Jordan beat teams that had more all-stars.. Ultimately, the 91' Lakers and 92' Blazers had better-ranked defenses and more scoring options, while the 93' Suns and 96' Sonics had nearly the same ranked defense and FAR more scoring options.. So the Jazz were the only FInals opponent that didn't have more talent, but they had a long-term organic brand that demolished Popovich/Duncan and Shaq's 4 all-star Lakers in 1998... Jordan also swept Shaq/Penny.
Btw, here's a play that exemplifies the relationship between MJ and pippen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrxK-DzqNEA&t=02m47s
Wally450
11-12-2021, 09:56 PM
Kobe quit on life at the age of 41.
Honor Boost
11-12-2021, 10:06 PM
LOL @ you being on the payroll working midnight's
Does op get paid for his postings and can I get a check
SATAN
11-12-2021, 10:12 PM
that puts him in the GOAT conversation, i only go back to the early 1970s, so I wouldn't argue if you gave me 5 or 6 names that you consider GOAT, including this immortal of the game
it's the deductions from 100 points, for flopping, wussiness, quitting, quitting and not leaving the floor, all the psychodrama he insists on bringing (that i really don't need)
a complicated man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyFaG7wykY4
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PPBWBLNEyto/hqdefault.jpg
https://pics.me.me/second-retirement-on-this-day-in-1998-michael-jordan-retired-39905958.png
We know about the game MJ refused to shoot
We know he was ridiculously petty and bullied his team mates
:confusedshrug:
kawhileonard2
11-12-2021, 10:41 PM
2006 - quits on team USA
2007 - quits the nba finals during a sweep by Tony parker
2008 - quits vs Spain and gets bailed out by kobe
2010 - quits vs Boston
2010 - quits on Cleveland
2011 - quits the finals cause of JJ bareas defense
2014 - quits the finals due to an air conditioner
2014 - quits on miami
2018 - quits the finals in OT game 1 and game 3 with a soft pick and game 4 during a sure sweep
2018 - quits on Cleveland for a 2nd time
2019 - quits the season cause of a pulled groin
2021 - quits the season cause of a sprained ankle
2022 - quits the season due to a sore abdomen
:roll:
What a post!
kawhileonard2
11-12-2021, 10:43 PM
Kobe quit on life at the age of 41.
WTF!
Baller789
11-12-2021, 11:03 PM
WTF!
Shows the kind of lowlives we have on this forum.
8Ball
11-12-2021, 11:46 PM
Kobe quit on life at the age of 41.
This hit Kenny right in the balls.
8Ball
11-12-2021, 11:47 PM
Shows the kind of lowlives we have on this forum.
You are talking about yourself here 100%.
TheCorporation
11-13-2021, 12:00 AM
Probably the guy with three retirements in 9 years is.
HunterSThompson
11-13-2021, 12:05 AM
I watched him basically singlehandedly take on the Pistons and beat them in a playoff series, relentless!
But the see-saw and the balance of weighing has lots of shameful stuff as well, way more than practically any other athlete in the GOAT discussions.
didn't those pistons replace their defensive anchor DPOTY legend ben wallace with an old washed up chris webber
2much_knowledge
11-13-2021, 12:16 AM
Jordan retired three, yes THREE times :oldlol:
And still managed to have more accolades than lebron and kobe combined! What a guy
8Ball
11-13-2021, 12:22 AM
Probably the guy with three retirements in 9 years is.
Retirement = quitting
2much_knowledge
11-13-2021, 12:25 AM
didn't those pistons replace their defensive anchor DPOTY legend ben wallace with an old washed up chris webber
Wait. Did that guy try to brag about lebron beating the 07 pistons? Lolol
HunterSThompson
11-13-2021, 12:29 AM
Retirement = quitting
jordan didn't quit on chicago. the league and team quit on him
the league in 94 and the team in 98
nobody willingly walks away from a title team unless they're forced out or they're kawhi's dumbass
2much_knowledge
11-13-2021, 12:36 AM
jordan didn't quit on chicago. the league and team quit on him
the league in 94 and the team in 98
nobody willingly walks away from a title team unless they're forced out or they're kawhi's dumbass
Facts, i understand 94, after a loss like that (father)
But 98, Jerry krause, rip but you were such a fool
HunterSThompson
11-13-2021, 12:39 AM
Facts, i understand 94, after a loss like that (father)
But 98, Jerry krause, rip but you were such a fool
jordan was unofficially banned in 94 for gambling and it might have something to do with his dads death. him going away wasn't his own decision. nobody just says "**** the prime of my life i'm gonna go play minor league baseball"
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