View Full Version : How much points would MJ average today?
AirBonner
11-09-2021, 01:26 PM
It’s a fact that he took 8.2 free throws per game for his career. Modern day Reffing and zone defense eliminates nearly 10ppg from MJ :biggums:
AirBonner
11-09-2021, 01:28 PM
To add, Harden averages 8.7 free throw attempts per game for his career. MJ was by all accounts the original Harden
You're saying MJ had the same benefit of getting tons of ghost fouls and resorted to foul baiting to get his 8.2 fts per game?
1987_Lakers
11-09-2021, 01:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbMe0WNm19s
AirBonner
11-09-2021, 01:31 PM
You're saying MJ had the same benefit of getting tons of ghost fouls and resorted to foul baiting to get his 8.2 fts per game?
I’d say a lot of them we’re definitely soft fouls
3ba11
11-09-2021, 01:44 PM
It’s a fact that he took 8.2 free throws per game for his career. Modern day Reffing and zone defense eliminates nearly 10ppg from MJ :biggums:
But you can add 20 new points to his previous average because today's spacing would prevent there from being help defenders on nearly half his drives:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9jtOOQ43yw4&t=05m42s
It's obviously easier to score with spacing and no help defenders than no spacing and packed paints
dankok8
11-09-2021, 02:09 PM
No perimeter handchecking
Defensive 3 seconds
Flagrant fouls for excessive contact
Spacing due to 3pt shooters
Faster Pace
vs.
Zone defenses
The game got easier not harder. Anyways if MJ was in a winning situation he wouldn't average 40+ per game. He would do that on lottery teams but on contenders 33-35 ppg on insane efficiency like +10 rTS is likely.
AirBonner
11-09-2021, 02:17 PM
No perimeter handchecking
Defensive 3 seconds
Flagrant fouls for excessive contact
Spacing due to 3pt shooters
Faster Pace
vs.
Zone defenses
The game got easier not harder. Anyways if MJ was in a winning situation he wouldn't average 40+ per game. He would do that on lottery teams but on contenders 33-35 ppg on insane efficiency like +10 rTS is likely.
MJ specifically struggled vs zone and advocated for it to be removed
ralph_i_el
11-09-2021, 02:18 PM
He'd average at least 10 ppg
Bronbron23
11-09-2021, 02:21 PM
It’s a fact that he took 8.2 free throws per game for his career. Modern day Reffing and zone defense eliminates nearly 10ppg from MJ :biggums:
Possibly one of the worst takes i've ever seen. One of the best ever at attacking the paint and posting up wouldn't get alot of foul shots:facepalm
To answer the question though 32-35 pts a game
Hey Yo
11-09-2021, 02:26 PM
Possibly one of the worst takes i've ever seen. One of the best ever at attacking the paint and posting up wouldn't get alot of foul shots:facepalm
To answer the question though 32-35 pts a game
The 1998 season he was a 34-35yr old jump shooter but still got 9FTA per game. The most since his 1989 season.
98 MJ certainly wasn't 89 MJ in terms of attacking.
Bronbron23
11-09-2021, 02:34 PM
The 1998 season he was a 34-35yr old jump shooter but still got 9FTA per game. The most since his 1989 season.
98 MJ certainly wasn't 89 MJ in terms of attacking.
Well i was assuming we were talking prime mj. Mid thirties mj would score around the same. Maybe 27-30 pts agame
AirBonner
11-09-2021, 02:36 PM
Possibly one of the worst takes i've ever seen. One of the best ever at attacking the paint and posting up wouldn't get alot of foul shots:facepalm
To answer the question though 32-35 pts a game
That is fair. You think he would still get that many free throw attempts? I don’t think so
Hey Yo
11-09-2021, 02:38 PM
Well i was assuming we were talking prime mj. Mid thirties mj would score around the same. Maybe 27-30 pts agame
I was just pointing out that even when he wasn't attacking nearly as much..... he still got calls.
ELITEpower23
11-09-2021, 02:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbMe0WNm19s
:oldlol:
To answer OP, since we saw a glimpse of MJ in modern times (2002, 2003) I'd say around Derozam numbers. So 25 ppg on 47% thereabouts.
Spurs m8
11-09-2021, 06:22 PM
48ppg
HBK_Kliq_2
11-09-2021, 06:26 PM
About the same, not much would change i don't think.
If he's on a crappy team he can average anywhere from 36-40 points per game
A title contender he's around 29-32 points per game
It also depends on his supporting cast because due to Pippen not being a super high usage player or great scorer, they would rely heavily on jordan to do those things.
chefcurry
11-10-2021, 01:31 AM
33-34 id say
AintNoSunshine
11-10-2021, 01:34 AM
Considering his 3 ball is iffy at best, he'd be a Russell Westbrook with better mid range shot. If he's on a bad team he can average 27-28, on a good team 25ish
Baller789
11-10-2021, 01:42 AM
About 3-4 ppg higher than whoever is topscorer today is. He won 10 scoring titles for a reason.
2much_knowledge
11-10-2021, 03:56 AM
Between 37 and 40. And thats assuming he doesn't het obsessed with adjusting to modern times and develop the 3 ball
Bronbron23
11-10-2021, 11:02 AM
That is fair. You think he would still get that many free throw attempts? I don’t think so
Yeah definitely. During the late 80's to early 90's he was only getting 7-8 fta. Prime super athletic mj could definitely do that now. Paul George and butler are basically poor versions of mj and they're dropping around 26 atm. Shit even DeRozan is doing that.
Bronbron23
11-10-2021, 11:04 AM
I was just pointing out that even when he wasn't attacking nearly as much..... he still got calls.
He he used alot more fundamentals to get calls later in hes career. Mj was smart so he'd still get calls just not as many.
30-33ppg consistently with insane efficiency as other have said. MJ will find that there are more players that he can trust on the offense nowadays so he won't be trying to do it all by himself.
Bankaii
11-10-2021, 12:07 PM
There are still people pushing the bs “Jordan would will his broken 3 pointer to better than Curry” narrative lmao.
GimmeThat
11-10-2021, 12:17 PM
similar to Durants
Bronbron23
11-10-2021, 12:31 PM
There are still people pushing the bs “Jordan would will his broken 3 pointer to better than Curry” narrative lmao.
How'd that narrative work for curry last year when he went up against ja who shoots worse than mj? How'd it work for curry in 2016 when bron who also isn't an amazing shooter spanked curry?
FilmyCogTurner
11-10-2021, 02:16 PM
I was just pointing out that even when he wasn't attacking nearly as much..... he still got calls.
I'm sure you can post some clips of some superstar bogus calls that any top player would receive but if you watch Jordan in the 2nd three peat - the vast majority of the calls he received are accurate and fair.
TheCorporation
11-10-2021, 04:21 PM
Just look at Derozan's ppg
That's MJ in 2021
Bronbron23
11-10-2021, 04:36 PM
Just look at Derozan's ppg
That's MJ in 2021
Yeah they're exactly the same player except mj was faster, stronger, jumped higher, was better from 3, mid, and post, was smarter, tougher a better passed, rebounder, scorer and defender.
But besides that they're pretty much identical:oldlol:
Airupthere
11-10-2021, 04:44 PM
If he needed and wanted to, he could do 35-40ppg.
leopardJuice
11-11-2021, 10:34 PM
If 4'5 Isaiah Thomas can put up 50 in a playoff game.... how much you think Jordan would put up? exactly
AirBonner
11-11-2021, 10:39 PM
If 4'5 Isaiah Thomas can put up 50 in a playoff game.... how much you think Jordan would put up? exactly
A 3’5 player mugsy was MJ’s toughest comp
Airupthere
11-11-2021, 10:58 PM
A 3’5 player mugsy was MJ’s toughest comp
A 5’5 nate blocked lebron’s dunk
Bawkish
11-11-2021, 11:32 PM
A 5’5 nate blocked lebron’s dunk
5'4 JJ Barea and 5'5 Jason Terry is literally Bron's nightmare
TheCorporation
11-11-2021, 11:52 PM
26 ppg
DeMar Dejordzdan
https://i.postimg.cc/Qx1WXNQM/De-Mar-De-Jordan-26-ppg.png
leopardJuice
11-11-2021, 11:58 PM
That photo of LeThotiana posting up 4'8 JJ barea will never get old
Baller789
11-12-2021, 12:43 AM
Just look at Derozan's ppg
That's MJ in 2021
Another nonsense post.
Derozan isn't even in the same zipcode athletically. If you only stop being a Lebron deekryder even for a sec.
Hey Yo
11-12-2021, 01:00 AM
DeRozen's playing his 13th consecutive full season..... MJ needed 15yrs to play 13 full seasons.
Stamina + athleticism >>>> just athleticism
Baller789
11-12-2021, 03:01 AM
DeRozen's playing his 13th consecutive full season..... MJ needed 15yrs to play 13 full seasons.
Stamina + athleticism >>>> just athleticism
Mental gymnastics at it's finest.
:hammerhead:
Prometheus
11-12-2021, 03:16 AM
Jordan at his athletic peak used his hops and body control to wield effectively the same unblockable midrange shot that Durant has simply by virtue of his height. But Jordan was also blessed with blinding quickness and a relentless mentality to attack fearlessly, always. Jordan would lead the league in scoring every year.
hateraid
11-12-2021, 05:41 AM
As much as MJ is being talked about I couldn't imagine what players who are Taylor made for today's game would have done. Attackers who can hit from deep. Tim Hardaway, Mitch Richmond, Kevin Johnson, Abdur-Rauf...hell Nique shot at apretty good percentage at 3. Lots of players I can see really benefiting from today's D
HylianNightmare
11-12-2021, 06:31 AM
Whatever kobes highest season was plus 3 to 5
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