DeMar and Lavine = Modern era MJ & Pip

[ELITEpower23]

https://i.postimg.cc/bvpY3040/20211112-085939.jpg

And MJ would be Demar

[BigShotBob]

https://i.postimg.cc/bvpY3040/20211112-085939.jpg

I'm just saying...

What happened in 2011?

[ELITEpower23]

What happened in 2011?

The greatest thing that could ever happen. A GOAT was born from it. It sparked the start of the greatest 5 year and 10 year stretch for any player in NBA history.

5 year stretch: 2012-2016
-5 Finals
-3x FMVP
-2x MVP
-GOAT title
-Beat 3 dynasties

NO ONE beats that

Thanks for the reminder :pimp:

[3ba11]

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Ok, but who's the "pippen", aka low-producer??


PLAYOFFS


94' Hakeem.... 27.7 PER.... 8.5 BPM... 2.6 VORP... 0.208 WS/48... 28.9 ppg
94' Horry........ 16.7 PER.... 5.0 BPM... 1.4 VORP... 0.152 WS/48... 13.8 ppg*
GAP.................. 11.0...........3.5........... 1.2............ 0.056........ 15.1

93' Jordan...... 30.1 PER... 11.6 BPM... 2.9 VORP... 0.270 WS/48... 35.1 ppg
93' Pippen...... 16.9 PER..... 2.0 BPM... 0.8 VORP... 0.083 WS/48... 20.1 ppg
GAP.................. 13.2........... 9.6........... 2.1............ 0.187....... 15.0

11' Dirk........... 25.2 PER... 5.5 BPM... 1.6 VORP... 0.210 WS/48... 27.7 ppg
11' Terry.......... 20.3 PER... 4.6 BPM... 1.1 VORP... 0.179 WS/48... 17.5 ppg
GAP................... 4.9............1.1........... 0.5............ 0.031........ 10.2

92' Jordan...... 27.2 PER.... 9.9 BPM... 2.8 VORP... 0.216 WS/48... 34.5 ppg
92' Pippen...... 20.1 PER.... 6.6 BPM... 2.0 VORP... 0.168 WS/48... 19.5 ppg
GAP.................. 7.1............ 3.3............ 0.8............ 0.048........ 15.0

91' Jordan...... 32.0 PER... 14.6 BPM... 2.9 VORP... 0.333 WS/48... 31.1 ppg
91' Pippen...... 22.0 PER..... 6.5 BPM... 1.5 VORP... 0.197 WS/48... 21.6 ppg
GAP.................. 10.0........... 8.1........... 1.4............ 0.136........ 9.5

96' Jordan...... 26.7 PER... 10.7 BPM... 2.4 VORP.. 0.317 WS/48... 30.7 ppg
96' Pippen...... 19.4 PER..... 7.8 BPM... 1.8 VORP.. 0.195 WS/48... 16.9 ppg
GAP................... 7.3........... 2.9............ 0.6............ 0.122....... 13.8

97' Jordan...... 27.1 PER.... 9.9 BPM... 2.4 VORP... 0.235 WS/48... 31.1 ppg
97' Pippen...... 18.1 PER.... 5.1 BPM... 1.4 VORP... 0.145 WS/48... 19.2 ppg
GAP.................. 9.1........... 4.8............ 1.0............ 0.090....... 11.9

98' Jordan...... 28.1 PER.... 9.0 BPM... 2.4 VORP... 0.265 WS/48... 32.4 ppg
98' Pippen...... 19.4 PER.... 5.6 BPM... 1.6 VORP... 0.166 WS/48... 16.8 ppg
GAP.................. 8.7........... 3.4............ 0.8............ 0.095........ 16.4


* Vernon Maxwell was the Rockets' 2nd leading scorer, so his PPG was used


MJ is #1 all-time in PPG, PER, WS/48, and other key stats while Pippen ranks about 120th in these areas - so there's never been a bigger statistical gap between 1st and 2nd option..

Jordan led Pippen by 10-30 ppg in every series of their career, while everyone else in history needed teammates to match them or lead in scoring for entire playoff runs - i.e. Wade and AD led Lebron in PPG for the 11' and 20' Playoffs, while Kyrie nearly matched Lebron in the 2016 Playoffs.. These equal-scoring partners attract equal defensive attention, so only MJ faced 1-man team defensive coverage for his entire career, as Kenny Smith points out here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UF6Xx3F2Lo&t=114s).

[ELITEpower23]

MJ is a modern day Derozan - plain and simple

[theman93]

MJ is a modern day Derozan - plain and simple

Jordan career PER = 27.9
DeRozan career PER = 18.5

Jordan career All-Defensive Teams = 9
DeRozan career All-Defensive Teams = 0

I can keep going but won't.

OP proves himself an idiot once again.

Next.

[k0kakw0rld]

Shut your b--ch ass up

[leopardJuice]

The greatest thing that could ever happen. A GOAT was born from it. It sparked the start of the greatest 5 year and 10 year stretch for any player in NBA history.

5 year stretch: 2012-2016
-5 Finals
-3x FMVP
-2x MVP
-GOAT title
-Beat 3 dynasties

NO ONE beats that

Thanks for the reminder :pimp:

6-0 and two 3 peats. 72-10. Will never be done again. Saved by gay allen and kylie.

Hurts doesn't it

[ELITEpower23]

Shut your b--ch ass up

Who's your favorite team tonight fakkit? :oldlol:

[k0kakw0rld]

Who's your favorite team tonight fakkit? :oldlol:
You are weak. Remember that 2019 team who won a championship?

I m giving you time to show everybody where I said that I am a fan of a team not named the Raptors.

Laughing at your own stupidities lmao get a life moron.

[Axe]

They will not win rings. But playoff trips will be likely at least.

[Full Court]

Great comparison. How many scoring titles does Derozan have? Didn't MJ have 10? How many all defensive teams? Didn't MJ have 9? How many DPOY? Didn't MJ have one? How many three peats? Didn't MJ have two?

Well, other than all that, virtually identical.

[LeCola]

Lebron is out of 1000.

No PED no Lebron.

[ELITEpower23]

https://i.postimg.cc/bvpY3040/20211112-085939.jpg

And MJ would be Demar

Would MJ be Demar or Lavine?

[Bawkish]

Like Bron is just a glorified Antoine Walker

[bison]

Demar 33 pts tonight on 11-15 shooting. Bulls legit.

[Blazers32]

:oldlol:

[2much_knowledge]

Like Bron is just a glorified Antoine Walker

His career is basically Karl Malone but with a bunch of extra allstar teammates

[TheGoatest]

Whoever is supposed to be the Jordan between the two, I doubt that DeMar or LaVine would take a shit on the other one's legacy like Jordan did to Pippen.

[Johnny32]

.
Ok, but who's the "pippen", aka low-producer??


PLAYOFFS


94' Hakeem.... 27.7 PER.... 8.5 BPM... 2.6 VORP... 0.208 WS/48... 28.9 ppg
94' Horry........ 16.7 PER.... 5.0 BPM... 1.4 VORP... 0.152 WS/48... 13.8 ppg*
GAP.................. 11.0...........3.5........... 1.2............ 0.056........ 15.1

93' Jordan...... 30.1 PER... 11.6 BPM... 2.9 VORP... 0.270 WS/48... 35.1 ppg
93' Pippen...... 16.9 PER..... 2.0 BPM... 0.8 VORP... 0.083 WS/48... 20.1 ppg
GAP.................. 13.2........... 9.6........... 2.1............ 0.187....... 15.0

11' Dirk........... 25.2 PER... 5.5 BPM... 1.6 VORP... 0.210 WS/48... 27.7 ppg
11' Terry.......... 20.3 PER... 4.6 BPM... 1.1 VORP... 0.179 WS/48... 17.5 ppg
GAP................... 4.9............1.1........... 0.5............ 0.031........ 10.2

92' Jordan...... 27.2 PER.... 9.9 BPM... 2.8 VORP... 0.216 WS/48... 34.5 ppg
92' Pippen...... 20.1 PER.... 6.6 BPM... 2.0 VORP... 0.168 WS/48... 19.5 ppg
GAP.................. 7.1............ 3.3............ 0.8............ 0.048........ 15.0

91' Jordan...... 32.0 PER... 14.6 BPM... 2.9 VORP... 0.333 WS/48... 31.1 ppg
91' Pippen...... 22.0 PER..... 6.5 BPM... 1.5 VORP... 0.197 WS/48... 21.6 ppg
GAP.................. 10.0........... 8.1........... 1.4............ 0.136........ 9.5

96' Jordan...... 26.7 PER... 10.7 BPM... 2.4 VORP.. 0.317 WS/48... 30.7 ppg
96' Pippen...... 19.4 PER..... 7.8 BPM... 1.8 VORP.. 0.195 WS/48... 16.9 ppg
GAP................... 7.3........... 2.9............ 0.6............ 0.122....... 13.8

97' Jordan...... 27.1 PER.... 9.9 BPM... 2.4 VORP... 0.235 WS/48... 31.1 ppg
97' Pippen...... 18.1 PER.... 5.1 BPM... 1.4 VORP... 0.145 WS/48... 19.2 ppg
GAP.................. 9.1........... 4.8............ 1.0............ 0.090....... 11.9

98' Jordan...... 28.1 PER.... 9.0 BPM... 2.4 VORP... 0.265 WS/48... 32.4 ppg
98' Pippen...... 19.4 PER.... 5.6 BPM... 1.6 VORP... 0.166 WS/48... 16.8 ppg
GAP.................. 8.7........... 3.4............ 0.8............ 0.095........ 16.4


* Vernon Maxwell was the Rockets' 2nd leading scorer, so his PPG was used


MJ is #1 all-time in PPG, PER, WS/48, and other key stats while Pippen ranks about 120th in these areas - so there's never been a bigger statistical gap between 1st and 2nd option..

Jordan led Pippen by 10-30 ppg in every series of their career, while everyone else in history needed teammates to match them or lead in scoring for entire playoff runs - i.e. Wade and AD led Lebron in PPG for the 11' and 20' Playoffs, while Kyrie nearly matched Lebron in the 2016 Playoffs.. These equal-scoring partners attract equal defensive attention, so only MJ faced 1-man team defensive coverage for his entire career, as Kenny Smith points out here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UF6Xx3F2Lo&t=114s).


jordan's second option was better in every finals but sea in 96 (mj was also bad) than his opponents second option.

91 - 21, 9, 7. he was better than magic let alone the lakers second option.
92 - 21, 8, 8. porter - 16, 5, 4.
93 - 21, 9, 8. kj - 17, 6, 3.
96 - 16, 8, 5. gp - 18, 7, 6.
97 - 20, 8, 4. stockton - 15, 9, 4.
98 - 16, 7, 5. hornacek - 11, 3, 3.