Any PC builders here? Need some help

[Brujesino]

So I probably wont be buying a pre built and just try to build it myself. My current pc is crap and the only thing im going to keep is the gpu which is rx 580 4gb since gpu prices are crazy right now and just build around it until prices come down.

I want to know if im over spending here

https://newegg.io/95b618f

Keeping in mind that I plan on buying a 1440p gpu when prices go down. I need a motherbaord that can handle 1 gb internet. Max I get on my computer is 80mbps and im pretty sure its the motherboard.

I have this

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Q3G3B67/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

probably wont get to many replies here so ill bump it it for a couple of days.

[LeCola]

What would you do with that 32 gb ram? Do you need for your job?

Why would you need a liquid cooling system?

I guess you can buy something like that with that budget:

https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Graphite-ToughRAM-Computer-S1BK-B550-G36-LCS/dp/B09FYP5QY2/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?crid=1X6TPLJE9HXBA&keywords=3060&qid=1637539926&qsid=147-6420369-9130242&sprefix=3060%2Caps%2C415&sr=8-7&sres=B08W8DGK3X%2CB08WPRMVWB%2CB094C4MB86%2CB08WM2 8PVH%2CB09GL1X7ZQ%2CB08WHJPBFX%2CB09FYP5QY2%2CB098 5Z47C8%2CB099N59B14%2CB0985X2YR1%2CB09FW5S6KS%2CB0 995TBTLS%2CB08R45ZC6Q%2CB09C43DLXG&srpt=VIDEO_CARD

It has 3060, if you increase the budget you could buy a pc with 3060 ti

[Brujesino]

What would you do with that 32 gb ram? Do you need for your job?

Why would you need a liquid cooling system?

I guess you can buy something like that with that budget:

https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Graphite-ToughRAM-Computer-S1BK-B550-G36-LCS/dp/B09FYP5QY2/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?crid=1X6TPLJE9HXBA&keywords=3060&qid=1637539926&qsid=147-6420369-9130242&sprefix=3060%2Caps%2C415&sr=8-7&sres=B08W8DGK3X%2CB08WPRMVWB%2CB094C4MB86%2CB08WM2 8PVH%2CB09GL1X7ZQ%2CB08WHJPBFX%2CB09FYP5QY2%2CB098 5Z47C8%2CB099N59B14%2CB0985X2YR1%2CB09FW5S6KS%2CB0 995TBTLS%2CB08R45ZC6Q%2CB09C43DLXG&srpt=VIDEO_CARD

It has 3060, if you increase the budget you could buy a pc with 3060 ti

So that build is just crazy overkill right? Its just for gaming and internet use. Would it be cheaper just to build around the rx580 and buy the better gpu later?

[LeCola]

So that build is just crazy overkill right? Its just for gaming and internet use. Would it be cheaper just to build around the rx580 and buy the better gpu later?

All parts of the pc should be on same level.

Rx580 will cause bottleneck with those parts.

Check this video, 3060 has %80-90 higher fps values.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pegLowaryUQ

[Brujesino]

What about the motherboard? Is it capable of 1gb internet?

[Brujesino]

what about these parts

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Td4d4d

[LeCola]

What about the motherboard? Is it capable of 1gb internet?

The pc I post has B550 atx motherboard. I searched it, sources say it has 2.5 gb ethernet.

Also, I see your PC has no SSD. Windows 10 should be installed on SSD. If it is installen on HDD, it must be very slow for internet usage.

For the gigabit issue, does your router have gigabit port?

[Brujesino]

The pc I post has B550 atx motherboard. I searched it, sources say it has 2.5 gb ethernet.

Also, I see your PC has no SSD. Windows 10 should be installed on SSD. If it is installen on HDD, it must be very slow for internet usage.

For the gigabit issue, does your router have gigabit port?
Yes I future proofed it when I upgraded my internet speed. My xbox gets faster download speed.

[Shogon]

I need a motherbaord that can handle 1 gb internet. Max I get on my computer is 80mbps and im pretty sure its the motherboard.

I might respond to this post in detail tomorrow but I felt the need to reply to this specifically...

I'm pretty it's not. Why do you think it's the motherboard? I can't imagine any motherboards made within the past decade being the bottleneck for your internet connection speed changing from 1000 mbps theoretical max to 80 mbps in reality.

Does your ISP say you should be getting other speeds?

Are you getting varying speed test results from your PC in comparison to your phone or tablet that is connected to wifi?

Does your owner's manual list your supported ethernet speeds or give a manufacturer and model # for the motherboard?

I googled your system's motherboard and I am just getting a bunch of generic crap back about it. Nothing with specs.

[Brujesino]

I might respond to this post in detail tomorrow but I felt the need to reply to this specifically...

I'm pretty it's not. Why do you think it's the motherboard? I can't imagine any motherboards made within the past decade being the bottleneck for your internet connection speed changing from 1000 mbps theoretical max to 80 mbps in reality.

Does your ISP say you should be getting other speeds?

Are you getting varying speed test results from your PC in comparison to your phone or tablet that is connected to wifi?

Does your owner's manual list your supported ethernet speeds or give a manufacturer and model # for the motherboard?

I googled your system's motherboard and I am just getting a bunch of generic crap back about it. Nothing with specs.

my consoles all get faster speeds. Ive done a router speed its good but when i check the internet speed on comcast its around 80. I also searched the motherbaord on this dell pc and its not a name brand its their own motherboard theres nothing name brand on it except the gpu.

[Brujesino]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2DPXCz


Just using this thread to save my builds this is the latest one. I have all this in my amazon cart total of $851

[LeCola]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2DPXCz


Just using this thread to save my builds this is the latest one. I have all this in my amazon cart total of $851

Your CPU is good enough for your current GPU.

It is meanless to buy that CPU. If you buy that, you need to buy 3070, 3080. Unless you will get almost the same fps values.

I see you already have 2 DDDR4 8 GB rams, why will you buy new ones?

As I said before, if you really use windows 10 without SSD, it is the biggest issue here. You just need to buy a SSD and install the OS on it, you will see the difference.

[Stephonit]

Didn't really read much here but I caught the bit about you possibly still not having an SSD.

As LeCola said that is a big deal. You will see a noticeable improvement going from the older kinds of harddisk to an SSD.

As for the 80Mbps internet you might want to double check it isn't a software issue that is setting a limit. You might also want to check your current motherboard's manual to check its specs.

[Shogon]

my consoles all get faster speeds. Ive done a router speed its good but when i check the internet speed on comcast its around 80. I also searched the motherbaord on this dell pc and its not a name brand its their own motherboard theres nothing name brand on it except the gpu.

It would very well could be that they skimped on the ethernet port then. Unreal.

If you want to know for sure, hopefully your motherboard model is listed here...

Type system information in the search bar, a screen containing this will pop up...

https://i.postimg.cc/63y7bdLS/motherboard.png

[Shogon]

what about these parts

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Td4d4d

The M.2 SSD will do wonders for your boot times and loading times of apps in general compared to whatever you have now. The speed difference is insane.

Gaming won't do much with 32 gb of ram vs 16 gb of ram. However, the ram speed does matter for gaming and the difference is noticeable. I would try to up the ram speed while reducing the memory. Additionally, and this is something you need to be careful with, your bios is probably going to restrict your ram speed if you just plug everything in and start it up. Make sure that your bios is configured to maximize your ram speed otherwise you are paying for extra speed for nothing. I think most bios will default cap your ram speed to 2133 mhz and it's amazing how many people do not know this and how that will impact your ram's performance and how that translates to FPS in gaming.

Also, I would upgrade that graphics card regardless of whatever is going on in the gpu market right now.

As LeCola said, your biggest bottleneck is probably going to be your GPU. You aren't going to be getting amazing frames on modern games with that card, period.

[rawimpact]

You should invest in a nice rockwell leopard 56k card

[Brujesino]

Your CPU is good enough for your current GPU.

It is meanless to buy that CPU. If you buy that, you need to buy 3070, 3080. Unless you will get almost the same fps values.

I see you already have 2 DDDR4 8 GB rams, why will you buy new ones?

As I said before, if you really use windows 10 without SSD, it is the biggest issue here. You just need to buy a SSD and install the OS on it, you will see the difference.

Im ok with the frame rates for now. I want to buy new stuff because then I want to give this pc i have to my brother as soon as I buy a new GPU I can put the rx580 back into this dell and give it to my brother.

[Brujesino]

The M.2 SSD will do wonders for your boot times and loading times of apps in general compared to whatever you have now. The speed difference is insane.

Gaming won't do much with 32 gb of ram vs 16 gb of ram. However, the ram speed does matter for gaming and the difference is noticeable. I would try to up the ram speed while reducing the memory. Additionally, and this is something you need to be careful with, your bios is probably going to restrict your ram speed if you just plug everything in and start it up. Make sure that your bios is configured to maximize your ram speed otherwise you are paying for extra speed for nothing. I think most bios will default cap your ram speed to 2133 mhz and it's amazing how many people do not know this and how that will impact your ram's performance and how that translates to FPS in gaming.

Also, I would upgrade that graphics card regardless of whatever is going on in the gpu market right now.

As LeCola said, your biggest bottleneck is probably going to be your GPU. You aren't going to be getting amazing frames on modern games with that card, period.

the M.2 ssd just dropped in price. Im ok with the framerates not being crazy good right now If I buy a new GPU Its going to push it over $2k probably more depending on which one I buy. Might as well buy a pre built at that point.

So I checked

manufacturer is dell inc and product is 0VYXHD.

[baudkarma]

2 TB of storage seems a little light for a gaming PC, but you can always slap a mechanical HD in there later if you're running out of room.

My main concern would be the CPU cooler. You don't need liquid cooling unless you're going to do some serious overclocking, and if you're going to overclock to that extent you'll need more robust solution than a budget product from Coolermaster. I would instead look into a high quality air cooler from a company like Noctua. A Noctua cooler will at least match the performance of the cooler you've selected, and may well do much better. It will also be much easier to install, and will require next to no maintenance.

[Shogon]

Btw there are only two or three "hard" parts of putting a PC together.

1) If your setup needs it and it doesn't come pre-applied(I'm guessing you will need to apply), put thermal paste between the CPU and the heat sink. Watch youtube videos, read about it... don't overdo it, don't underdo it. Go slow, be careful.
2) Do not force the CPU whatsoever into the motherboard socket. It will only fit one way. If it doesn't drop in securely and neatly you've got it facing the wrong way. Pushing this whatsoever will bend the pins and the motherboard will be dumpster food.
3) Plugging in the wires into the motherboard for the front control panel are a PITA if you have big hands/fingers and can perhaps be somewhat difficult to interpret on the mobo because the lettering is so small.

[Shogon]

I personally enjoy building and you're probably paying a premium for someone else to build it for you by doing that.

Me personally with my experience, the only way I would even consider buying a prebuilt machine is if it had a video card I couldn't get my hands on otherwise and there was no markup involved.

And I probably wouldn't even do that because the 4000 series is right around the corner and coming to market in Q3 of 2022 most likely.

But if you're in the least bit intimidated, maybe that's the way you should go.

[FKAri]

I personally enjoy building and you're probably paying a premium for someone else to build it for you by doing that.

Me personally with my experience, the only way I would even consider buying a prebuilt machine is if it had a video card I couldn't get my hands on otherwise and there was no markup involved.

And I probably wouldn't even do that because the 4000 series is right around the corner and coming to market in Q3 of 2022 most likely.

But if you're in the least bit intimidated, maybe that's the way you should go.

If anyone wants a PC right now with a GPU better than an RX 580, it's cheaper to buy prebuillt. Standalone GPU's are a premium right now. In general, it's a horrid time to buy a high end PC.

[Shogon]

If anyone wants a PC right now with a GPU better than an RX 580, it's cheaper to buy prebuillt. Standalone GPU's are a premium right now. In general, it's a horrid time to buy a high end PC.

Eh... it depends on how you look at it.

You can still get cards @ Best Buy and other b&m retailers every once in a while, but the bots are going to beat you on Amazon and every major website. You can set your own bot up, however.

If you're looking to get the system instantly without waiting, yes, you are right. Prebuilts are the best way to get the card you want right now. If you are willing to wait and buy in person OR you're willing to set up your own bot to make the purchases, you can do it with a little bit of patience at msrp and you are wrong.

[Brujesino]

I personally enjoy building and you're probably paying a premium for someone else to build it for you by doing that.

Me personally with my experience, the only way I would even consider buying a prebuilt machine is if it had a video card I couldn't get my hands on otherwise and there was no markup involved.

And I probably wouldn't even do that because the 4000 series is right around the corner and coming to market in Q3 of 2022 most likely.

But if you're in the least bit intimidated, maybe that's the way you should go.

for sure intimidating but I think im going to go through with it

Heres what I got so far

RX 580 4gb
Apex gaming 750w gold plus
already have these so im buying

Phanteks eclipse p400A digital $89.99
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TTDW9KV/ref=crt_ewc_title_srh_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

corsair vengeance 16gb 2x8gb ddr4 3600 $64.99
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RM39V5F/ref=crt_ewc_title_dp_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Samsung M.2 1TB $99
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08V83JZH4/ref=crt_ewc_title_dp_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Ryzen 7 5800X and asus tuf gaming b550 plus wifi bundle $486
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B095F2KKFH/ref=crt_ewc_title_dp_6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Coolmaster hyper 212 $44
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H22TC1N/ref=crt_ewc_title_dp_3?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

artic case fan $10
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GJGF56L/ref=crt_ewc_title_dp_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2T6N244WTLWGU

This totals $796

might even have enough to buy a overpriced gpu next month .

[Brujesino]

Btw there are only two or three "hard" parts of putting a PC together.

1) If your setup needs it and it doesn't come pre-applied(I'm guessing you will need to apply), put thermal paste between the CPU and the heat sink. Watch youtube videos, read about it... don't overdo it, don't underdo it. Go slow, be careful.
2) Do not force the CPU whatsoever into the motherboard socket. It will only fit one way. If it doesn't drop in securely and neatly you've got it facing the wrong way. Pushing this whatsoever will bend the pins and the motherboard will be dumpster food.
3) Plugging in the wires into the motherboard for the front control panel are a PITA if you have big hands/fingers and can perhaps be somewhat difficult to interpret on the mobo because the lettering is so small.

so buy thermal paste just incase. Going to think about it and probably pull the trigger tonight.

[FKAri]

Eh... it depends on how you look at it.

You can still get cards @ Best Buy and other b&m retailers every once in a while, but the bots are going to beat you on Amazon and every major website. You can set your own bot up, however.

If you're looking to get the system instantly without waiting, yes, you are right. Prebuilts are the best way to get the card you want right now. If you are willing to wait and buy in person OR you're willing to set up your own bot to make the purchases, you can do it now at msrp and you are wrong.

I was unaware that this was still possible. I know they used to be out of stock but they have started to show up in stock at outrageous prices.

[LeCola]

for sure intimidating but I think im going to go through with it

Heres what I got so far

RX 580 4gb
Apex gaming 750w gold plus
already have these so im buying

Phanteks eclipse p400A digital $89.99
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TTDW9KV/ref=crt_ewc_title_srh_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

corsair vengeance 16gb 2x8gb ddr4 3600 $64.99
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RM39V5F/ref=crt_ewc_title_dp_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Samsung M.2 1TB $99
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08V83JZH4/ref=crt_ewc_title_dp_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Ryzen 7 5800X and asus tuf gaming b550 plus wifi bundle $486
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B095F2KKFH/ref=crt_ewc_title_dp_6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Coolmaster hyper 212 $44
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H22TC1N/ref=crt_ewc_title_dp_3?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

artic case fan $10
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GJGF56L/ref=crt_ewc_title_dp_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2T6N244WTLWGU

This totals $796

might even have enough to buy a overpriced gpu next month .

If you will buy Ryzen 7 5800X, you should buy a GPU around 3070-3080 next month.

3070's are around $1200-1400 on amazon.
Prebuilt PC's with 3070 are around $2000.

If you do what you say, you would pay more than $2000 (800 now for those and 1200-1400 for GPU next month).

So, my suggestion is:

Now, buy only a SSD for $100, install the OS on it.
Next month, buy a prebuilt PC which has 3070 for $2000 and give your old PC to your brother just like you said.

Also:
If you can use a laptop, you can buy that for $1500:
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GL66-Gaming-Laptop-i7-11800H/dp/B09127DDVT/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=3070&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&qid=1637619341&refinements=p_n_condition-type%3A2224371011%2Cp_6%3AATVPDKIKX0DER&rnid=303116011&s=electronics&sr=1-2
MSI GL66 Gaming Laptop: 15.6" 144Hz FHD 1080p Display, Intel Core i7-11800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070, 16GB, 512GB SSD, Win10

You can use it with a 2k monitor.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay3Rd2sYaQ8&ab_channel=BrianMcKenzie

[Shogon]

I was unaware that this was still possible. I know they used to be out of stock but they have started to show up in stock at outrageous prices.

The major retailers are still selling at MSRP.

[Brujesino]

Thanks LaCola but I think the building process will be fun and I looked up bottlenecking wont do any damage to my computer I just wont be taking advantage of the cpu with the weaker gpu. Ill see if I get lucky and get a 3070 or rx6800.

[Brujesino]

damn that cpu motherboard bundle just went back up in price took to long to pull the trigger might wait see if it goes back on sale.

[diamenz]

here's a nice little subreddit where you can find daily deals on components if you end up building your own. you can sort the results by type in the right hand column. should be some good ones this week.

https://old.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/

[baudkarma]

It looks as if the CPU cooler you selected comes with thermal paste. If you look at the picture where all the little fiddly bits are laid out, there's a syringe looking thing just below the cooler itself. I'm pretty sure that syringe contains thermal paste, and not insulin or meth.

Also, will the two USB ports your case provides be enough? I know your mobo choice has plenty of rear USB ports, but depending on your office setup, those can be a pain to get to. My case has 4 front USB ports, and I usually have three or sometimes even all four of them in use.

[baudkarma]

Btw there are only two or three "hard" parts of putting a PC together.

3) Plugging in the wires into the motherboard for the front control panel are a PITA if you have big hands/fingers and can perhaps be somewhat difficult to interpret on the mobo because the lettering is so small.

This. This is the worst. It was a PITA when I did my first build 20 years ago, and it was a PITA last month when I tore my current system down to rearrange the fans. All the other connections only plug in one way, and they lock in place once you've got them properly seated. Case-Mobo connectors? Hope you plug them in correctly, because it's really really easy to shift them over one pin and then nothing works. And if you're not careful while you're doing your cable management, you can easily pull them all out and then have to plug them in all over again.

[Nanners]

Definitely do not buy a prebuilt... it might seem like the easier or better option right now, but if you go down that road I would bet the farm that sooner or later you will regret that you didnt build your own.

IMO that RX 580 will serve you just fine until you can find a modern card that isnt obscenely overpriced.

[baudkarma]

Definitely do not buy a prebuilt... it might seem like the easier or better option right now, but if you go down that road I would bet the farm that sooner or later you will regret that you didnt build your own.

IMO that RX 580 will serve you just fine until you can find a modern card that isnt obscenely overpriced.

I've been watching some prebuilt reviews and teardowns on YouTube. Some funny stuff. So far, the highest rating seems to be "Doesn't Totally Suck".

[MJthe2nd]

I know this is not what you need help with but if you're after a good desk pad, I recommend https://www.galenleather.com/products/leather-desk-pad It covers a significant part of my desk, resulting in room for both my keyboard and mouse

[highwhey]

here's a nice little subreddit where you can find daily deals on components if you end up building your own. you can sort the results by type in the right hand column. should be some good ones this week.

https://old.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/

ya that sub is awesome. r/hardwareswaps if ur into used stuff