Kerr says that only Curry is elite on-ball and off-ball

[3ba11]

He said Curry has the Rip Hamilton off-ball game and is an elite playmaker too

So apparently he never saw a guy named Michael Jordan play, who made over 700 jumpers in 1997, which is nearly 300 more than Curry's highest volume season

I'm not saying Jordan shoots threes like Curry, but he's statistically the goat 2-point jumpshooter and arguably a goat off-ball player, while also being goat-tier as a PG (30/10/10 point guard 30 years before Luka, Westbrook, Harden, Lebron, etc.)

[8Ball]

Scottie Pippen and Steve Kerr have spoken. We should listen.

[ShawkFactory]

Provide the quote

[GrayGoat]

I’ll take Steve Kerr’s opinion over op’s

[Bronbron23]

He said Curry has the Rip Hamilton off-ball game and is an elite playmaker too

So apparently he never saw a guy named Michael Jordan play, who made over 700 jumpers in 1997, which is nearly 300 more than Curry's highest volume season

I'm not saying Jordan shoots threes like Curry, but he's statistically the goat 2-point jumpshooter and arguably a goat off-ball player, while also being goat-tier as a PG (30/10/10 point guard 30 years before Luka, Westbrook, Harden, Lebron, etc.)

Probably meant playing currently. Mj and bird were both elite on and off ball

[Manny98]

Curry is the best off ball scorer ever and the best overall shooter ever, sorry MJ doesn't even come close to Curry in off ball scoring or shooting

Curry is that much better than everyone else in those departments, he's unreal

[Hey Yo]

Kerr also said he wasn't good enough play in this era. Just shows how watered down the 90's were.

[8Ball]

Curry is the best off ball scorer ever and the best overall shooter ever, sorry MJ doesn't even come close to Curry in off ball scoring or shooting

Curry is that much better than everyone else in those departments, he's unreal

Manny98 turning the corner and speaking truth.

Every player in the history of the game wishes they had off ball shooting / talent like Curry.

[3ba11]

Probably meant playing currently. Mj and bird were both elite on and off ball


He actually said "ever"... I'm trying to track down the quote.. I was watching it last night and forgot to save the link..

Ultimately, I think Kerr is just like everyone else when it comes to MJ - MJ is a blur - no one seems to understand how he was the goat scorer - they just know he was... They think he was a chucker early-on and learned to play "team ball" later on... But the reality is that he always had the best fundamentals, and these fundamentals were unbeatable with veteran teammates.. Watch his highlights closesly - he didn't shoot the deep ball like Curry, but his off-ball movement was absolutely GOAT, while his jumpshooting form and volume was also GOAT..

[Bronbron23]

He actually said "ever"... I'm trying to track down the quote.. I was watching it last night and forgot to save the link.

Ultimately, I think Kerr is just like everyone else when it comes to MJ - MJ is a blur - no one seems to understand how he was the goat scorer - they just know he was... They think he was a chucker early-on and learned to play "team ball" later on... But the reality is that he always had the best fundamentals, and these fundamentals were unbeatable with veteran teammates.. Watch his highlights closesly - he didn't shoot the deep ball like Curry, but his off-ball movement was absolutely GOAT, and his jumpshooting form was also GOAT..

Probably just a prisoner of the moment situation. He knows mj and bird were elite in both.

[tontoz]

I remember Steve Smith talking about defending other players. He said Reggie Miller was a nightmare to guard because he was constantly running around screens.

He said Jordan was easy to guard, then he qualified it. It was easy in the sense that Jordan wasn't constantly running around to get open. Once he got the ball then things got tough.:oldlol:

[3ba11]

Probably just a prisoner of the moment situation. He knows mj and bird were elite in both.


I don't have a problem with him saying "ever".. Maybe Curry is infact goat off-ball... But Jordan is right there too and he gave Jordan no love... No one gives him love in this entirely critical area.. A lot of people don't realize that without it, Jordan would've lost a lot more like a lot of other perimeter greats

[tpols]

MJ was only a mid range specialist. In 1992 he had a nice little long range exhibition, but generally he couldn't hit the long ball.

Chef is like Randy Moss and Barry Sanders in one. He can kill you on or off ball and has the ultimate KO switch.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Curry has been on the warriors since 2010 and he has 1 ring to show for it (not including durant era).

Kawhi matched that in 1 year with raptors and eliminated his bitchass

f*ck you kerr, i'll get jordan to slap your ass around again. Fatherless blonde dork f*ck

[3ba11]

I remember Steve Smith talking about defending other players. He said Reggie Miller was a nightmare to guard because he was constantly running around screens.

He said Jordan was easy to guard, then he qualified it. It was easy in the sense that Jordan wasn't constantly running around to get open. Once he got the ball then things got tough.:oldlol:


I agree that Jordan didn't run around like a chicken with his head cut-off like Miller, Rip, Reddick or Curry, but that's because of his physical superiority - he could often run to a spot and stand there until he catches the ball... Then he could score quickly upon the catch via catch-and-shoot or catch-and-go - that's off-ball skill - it isn't JUST catch-and-shoot.... it's catch-and-SCORE... no one was better at that than Jordan.

But Jordan still ran off-screens plenty, and his athletic superiority made him superior at running off-ball - see his escape of Larry Nance before hittting "the shot" for some movement that Curry and others aren't capable of - only the black cat can move off-ball like that... And he did that all the time - every possession.

Furthermore, there's plenty of instances of MJ taking Steve Smith backdoor for a score or off-screens for a jumpshot - Smith might not remember these the same way that he remembers the iso's where Jordan has him on an island in the torture chamber..

Btw, any viewing of Jordan's highlights shows that he started most games with 2 or 3 catch-and-shoots... Once his jumper was established, he would go to work in other areas.

[3ba11]

MJ was only a mid range specialist. In 1992 he had a nice little long range exhibition, but generally he couldn't hit the long ball.

Chef is like Randy Moss and Barry Sanders in one. He can kill you on or off ball and has the ultimate KO switch.


Nah, if Curry limited himself to 1 bailout three per game like MJ did (1 highly-contested shot at the end of shot-clock), he would have non-elite percentages just like Jordan.

Anytime Jordan took more than bailout volume - he shot well - and I'm talking about only 3 attempts in 90' or 93'... Imagine how much his goat form would get in rhythm at 6-10 attempts in today's high volume 3-point offenses - he'd be shrugging EVERY night, ya dig

[tpols]

Nah, if Curry limited himself to 1 bailout three per game like MJ did (1 highly-contested shot at the end of shot-clock), he would have non-elite percentages just like Jordan.

Anytime Jordan took more than bailout volume - he shot well - and I'm talking about only 3 attempts in 90' or 93'... Imagine how much his goat form would get in rhythm at 6-10 attempts in today's high volume 3-point offenses - he'd be shrugging EVERY night, ya dig

Why would the GOAT KO artist limit himself to 1 hard punch a game? Why would Curry take one deep 3 a game? Should Mike Tyson throw only jabs?

You may as well ask Shaq to take one look in the paint a game. Or magic can only make one dime a game. Rodman can only grab one rebound.

Its a dumb premise. If they only invented the 3pt line as Curry joined the league you'd have a point but it's been around for 40+ years. So your argument is a joke.

[Baller789]

I'd take Curry's off-ball skills over anyone... Except he plays in an era were illegal screens are barely called.

[Axe]

Kerr's statement comes as no surprise, as moving screens have become part of their routine play. That's why it's no wonder that curry ball involves lots of them, as well as banal ongoing quarter buzzer beaters from long-range during garbage time. Where it's so easy to pad up points because of seemingly endless opportunities to score over many lousy opponents. However, this is mostly limited in the regular season though. As defenses would significantly adjust in playoff time. That's why we actually have yet to see stephen curry score at least 50 points or more in the postseason, which is we all know is not easily possible whenever he's playing with a handful of all-star teammates on the floor.

[3ba11]

Why would the GOAT KO artist limit himself to 1 hard punch a game? Why would Curry take one deep 3 a game? Should Mike Tyson throw only jabs?

You may as well ask Shaq to take one look in the paint a game. Or magic can only make one dime a game. Rodman can only grab one rebound.

Its a dumb premise. If they only invented the 3pt line as Curry joined the league you'd have a point but it's been around for 40+ years. So your argument is a joke.


Asking ourselves what percentage Curry would shoot at 1 bailout per game can illuminate why MJ's percentage wasn't elite at 1 bailout per game - it's simply hard to have a good percentage while shooting 1 bailout per game, regardless of who the shooter is ... :confusedshrug:

The fact that MJ shot well anytime he had more than bailout volume further confirms that he would shoot better in today's game due to higher volume and today's 3-point machine offenses that yield mostly open threes (even for Curry)

[Reggie43]

Reggie and Rip for me were the best I have seen (offball) and they did it in an era where the defense was still allowed to be physical to guys moving without the ball.

[3ba11]

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People only think about the END of this play when they think about Jordan - they don't think about the Reggie Miller/Rip Hamilton shit he did to get the ball:


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Jordan was an off-guard (off-ball) and scored more points per game that way than anyone in history

[Full Court]

I’ll take Steve Kerr’s opinion over op’s


You think that Kerr is unbiased when talking about a guy he coaches?

[SATAN]

Steve Kerr has opinions that differ to my own :cry:

Get a grip, man. :facepalm

[Axe]

You think that Kerr is unbiased when talking about a guy he coaches?
A certain curry stan here finds steve kerr to be an overrated coach even when he's the one who was responsible for bringing him his first ring.

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