View Full Version : DeMar DeRozan Playing Like a Modern Michael Jordan
ELITEpower23
11-23-2021, 12:08 AM
https://www.sportscasting.com/demar-derozan-playing-like-modern-michael-jordan-for-bulls-joins-mj-history-books/
"DeMar DeRozan became the first player in Bulls history to score 35-plus points on 65% shooting in back-to-back games since Michael Jordan."
"DeRozan’s offensive game is eerily similar to Jordan’s."
https://www.sportscasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/DeMar-DeRozan-and-Michael-Jordan-1024x576.jpg
Is it safe to say that he's also a ballhog? Anyway, glad to see he's flourishing there in chicago.
Baller789
11-23-2021, 03:36 AM
Is it safe to say that he's also a ballhog? Anyway, glad to see he's flourishing there in chicago.
It's safe to say you give oral pleasure to Gayball and NoPower23.
Every single time. :roll:
It's safe to say you give oral pleasure to Gayball and NoPower23.
Every single time. :roll:
Yet you had to follow me first to say this shit. :yaohappy:
Baller789
11-23-2021, 04:06 AM
Yet you had to follow me first to say this shit. :yaohappy:
Yup. It's fun. :rockon:
Yup. It's fun. :rockon:
Thanks for proving to us that you really are a queer, @julius. :cheers:
warriorfan
11-23-2021, 04:32 AM
Axe is a fat beaner
TheGoatest
11-23-2021, 05:22 AM
Right now DeRozan, who is a living joke meme used as an example of a player who isn't able to shoot 3s, is having a better 3pt% season than Jordan had in 11 of the 12 seasons he played with a proper, non-pee-wee shortened 3 point line. Speaks volumes about Jordan's suckage behind a properly distanced 3 point line. :oldlol:
Right now DeRozan, who is a living joke meme used as an example of a player who isn't able to shoot 3s, is having a better 3pt% season than Jordan had in 11 of the 12 seasons he played with a proper, non-pee-wee shortened 3 point line. Speaks volumes about Jordan's suckage behind a properly distanced 3 point line. :oldlol:
Funny how mj seems to be a 'big joke' to you but you couldn't stop making threads nor talk about him. Big example of 'rent free' indeed. :ohwell:
ImKobe
11-23-2021, 08:21 AM
And he's half as talented as 2nd 3-Peat Jordan.. Prime MJ puts up 35+ a game on 60+%TS to go along with multiple DPOY awards.
Akeem34TheDream
11-23-2021, 08:26 AM
Isn't this killing the narratives about this era? That you have to be a good 3 point shooter?
ImKobe
11-23-2021, 08:37 AM
Isn't this killing the narratives about this era? That you have to be a good 3 point shooter?
He's having his best 3-Point shooting season so far though. MJ was also capable of shooting in the mid-30s at around 3 attempts a game and shot 38.7% from 3 at 2.4 3PA in the first 3-Peat, peaking at 38.9%3PT at 3.8 attempts in '93. You don't have to be good but you have to be a threat from outside or have elite shooters around you. Ball and Lavine are both shooting lights out so that helps.
Baller789
11-23-2021, 07:33 PM
Thanks for proving to us that you really are a queer, @julius. :cheers:
But you are the one whipping out your tiny wee wee into the convo and thought it was the $+!+.
Only to get embarrassed later.
:yaohappy::yaohappy::yaohappy:
But you are the one whipping out your tiny wee wee into the convo and thought it was the $+!+.
Only to get embarrassed later.
:yaohappy::yaohappy::yaohappy:
Nope, you are the one who keeps following me like a homo puppy rofl.
3ba11
11-23-2021, 09:26 PM
Let's see DeRozan win 6 Finals without a sidekick getting FMVP or averaging 25 ppg in any of the Finals - no one has ever done that more than twice (won a Finals without a teammate getting FMVP or 25 ppg)
ELITEpower23
11-23-2021, 09:59 PM
Let's see DeRozan win 6 Finals without a sidekick getting FMVP or averaging 25 ppg in any of the Finals - no one has ever done that more than twice (won a Finals without a teammate getting FMVP or 25 ppg)
Does he also have to shoot twice as many shots as his #2 option like a bad passing ball hog? :oldlol: whoops
Baller789
11-24-2021, 07:00 AM
Nope, you are the one who keeps following me like a homo puppy rofl.
I don't need to follow you. You are basically the b!tch of every Branstan here. :lol
PeroAntic
11-24-2021, 07:17 AM
Derozan is not 1/10th of MJ defensively and his decision making on offense is lightyears behind MJ. Only brandead stans keep perpetuating this Derozan/MJ bs
I don't need to follow you. You are basically the b!tch of every Branstan here. :lol
Oh the irony @julius erving.
Baller789
11-24-2021, 07:27 AM
Oh the irony @julius erving.
Ok branstan B!tİh.
:roll:
TheCorporation
11-24-2021, 12:44 PM
Does he also have to shoot twice as many shots as his #2 option like a bad passing ball hog? :oldlol: whoops
Shit
:roll:
getting_old
11-24-2021, 03:40 PM
Derozan is not 1/10th of MJ defensively and his decision making on offense is lightyears behind MJ. Only brandead stans keep perpetuating this Derozan/MJ bs
DD also flips a switch in his head and just.... simply.... disappears....
PeroAntic
11-24-2021, 04:02 PM
DD also flips a switch in his head and just.... simply.... disappears....
But he does midrange fadeaways, he must be LITERALLY the same! :facepalm
3ba11
11-29-2021, 01:16 PM
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PLAYOFFS
94' Hakeem.... 27.7 PER.... 8.5 BPM... 2.6 VORP... 0.208 WS/48... 28.9 ppg
94' Horry........ 16.7 PER.... 5.0 BPM... 1.4 VORP... 0.152 WS/48... 13.8 ppg*
GAP.................. 11.0...........3.5........... 1.2............ 0.056........ 15.1
93' Jordan...... 30.1 PER... 11.6 BPM... 2.9 VORP... 0.270 WS/48... 35.1 ppg
93' Pippen...... 16.9 PER..... 2.0 BPM... 0.8 VORP... 0.083 WS/48... 20.1 ppg
GAP.................. 13.2........... 9.6........... 2.1............ 0.187....... 15.0
11' Dirk........... 25.2 PER... 5.5 BPM... 1.6 VORP... 0.210 WS/48... 27.7 ppg
11' Terry.......... 20.3 PER... 4.6 BPM... 1.1 VORP... 0.179 WS/48... 17.5 ppg
GAP................... 4.9............1.1........... 0.5............ 0.031........ 10.2
92' Jordan...... 27.2 PER.... 9.9 BPM... 2.8 VORP... 0.216 WS/48... 34.5 ppg
92' Pippen...... 20.1 PER.... 6.6 BPM... 2.0 VORP... 0.168 WS/48... 19.5 ppg
GAP.................. 7.1............ 3.3............ 0.8............ 0.048........ 15.0
91' Jordan...... 32.0 PER... 14.6 BPM... 2.9 VORP... 0.333 WS/48... 31.1 ppg
91' Pippen...... 22.0 PER..... 6.5 BPM... 1.5 VORP... 0.197 WS/48... 21.6 ppg
GAP.................. 10.0........... 8.1........... 1.4............ 0.136........ 9.5
96' Jordan...... 26.7 PER... 10.7 BPM... 2.4 VORP.. 0.317 WS/48... 30.7 ppg
96' Pippen...... 19.4 PER..... 7.8 BPM... 1.8 VORP.. 0.195 WS/48... 16.9 ppg
GAP................... 7.3........... 2.9............ 0.6............ 0.122....... 13.8
97' Jordan...... 27.1 PER.... 9.9 BPM... 2.4 VORP... 0.235 WS/48... 31.1 ppg
97' Pippen...... 18.1 PER.... 5.1 BPM... 1.4 VORP... 0.145 WS/48... 19.2 ppg
GAP.................. 9.1........... 4.8............ 1.0............ 0.090....... 11.9
98' Jordan...... 28.1 PER.... 9.0 BPM... 2.4 VORP... 0.265 WS/48... 32.4 ppg
98' Pippen...... 19.4 PER.... 5.6 BPM... 1.6 VORP... 0.166 WS/48... 16.8 ppg
GAP.................. 8.7........... 3.4............ 0.8............ 0.095........ 16.4
* Vernon Maxwell was the Rockets' 2nd leading scorer, so his PPG was used
MJ is #1 all-time in PPG, PER, WS/48, and other key stats while Pippen ranks about 120th in these areas - so there's never been a bigger statistical gap between 1st and 2nd option..
Jordan led Pippen by 10-30 ppg in every series of their career, while everyone else in history needed teammates to match them or lead in scoring for entire playoff runs - i.e. Wade and AD led Lebron in PPG for the 11' and 20' Playoffs, while Kyrie nearly matched Lebron in the 2016 Playoffs.. These equal-scoring partners attract equal defensive attention, so only MJ faced 1-man team defensive coverage for his entire career, as Kenny Smith points out here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UF6Xx3F2Lo&t=114s)
3ba11
11-29-2021, 01:17 PM
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PPG
Derozan.... 26
Lavine...... 26
Jordan..... 30
Pippen..... 16
The difference is that Derozan has an equal-scoring partner to attract equal defensive attention, so he doesn't have to beat maximum defensive attention like Jordan, who was the sole focus because he doubled Pippen's playoff scoring and averaged more assists - there's never been a bigger gap between 1st and 2nd option than MJ/Pippen, as the previous post shows.
Jordan led Pippen by 10-30 ppg in every series of their career, while everyone else in history needed teammates to match them or lead in scoring for entire playoff runs.. These equal-scoring partners attract equal defensive attention, so only MJ faced 1-man team defensive coverage for his entire career, as Kenny Smith points out here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UF6Xx3F2Lo&t=114s)
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PLAYOFFS
94' Hakeem.... 27.7 PER.... 8.5 BPM... 2.6 VORP... 0.208 WS/48... 28.9 ppg
94' Horry........ 16.7 PER.... 5.0 BPM... 1.4 VORP... 0.152 WS/48... 13.8 ppg*
GAP.................. 11.0...........3.5........... 1.2............ 0.056........ 15.1
93' Jordan...... 30.1 PER... 11.6 BPM... 2.9 VORP... 0.270 WS/48... 35.1 ppg
93' Pippen...... 16.9 PER..... 2.0 BPM... 0.8 VORP... 0.083 WS/48... 20.1 ppg
GAP.................. 13.2........... 9.6........... 2.1............ 0.187....... 15.0
11' Dirk........... 25.2 PER... 5.5 BPM... 1.6 VORP... 0.210 WS/48... 27.7 ppg
11' Terry.......... 20.3 PER... 4.6 BPM... 1.1 VORP... 0.179 WS/48... 17.5 ppg
GAP................... 4.9............1.1........... 0.5............ 0.031........ 10.2
92' Jordan...... 27.2 PER.... 9.9 BPM... 2.8 VORP... 0.216 WS/48... 34.5 ppg
92' Pippen...... 20.1 PER.... 6.6 BPM... 2.0 VORP... 0.168 WS/48... 19.5 ppg
GAP.................. 7.1............ 3.3............ 0.8............ 0.048........ 15.0
91' Jordan...... 32.0 PER... 14.6 BPM... 2.9 VORP... 0.333 WS/48... 31.1 ppg
91' Pippen...... 22.0 PER..... 6.5 BPM... 1.5 VORP... 0.197 WS/48... 21.6 ppg
GAP.................. 10.0........... 8.1........... 1.4............ 0.136........ 9.5
96' Jordan...... 26.7 PER... 10.7 BPM... 2.4 VORP.. 0.317 WS/48... 30.7 ppg
96' Pippen...... 19.4 PER..... 7.8 BPM... 1.8 VORP.. 0.195 WS/48... 16.9 ppg
GAP................... 7.3........... 2.9............ 0.6............ 0.122....... 13.8
97' Jordan...... 27.1 PER.... 9.9 BPM... 2.4 VORP... 0.235 WS/48... 31.1 ppg
97' Pippen...... 18.1 PER.... 5.1 BPM... 1.4 VORP... 0.145 WS/48... 19.2 ppg
GAP.................. 9.1........... 4.8............ 1.0............ 0.090....... 11.9
98' Jordan...... 28.1 PER.... 9.0 BPM... 2.4 VORP... 0.265 WS/48... 32.4 ppg
98' Pippen...... 19.4 PER.... 5.6 BPM... 1.6 VORP... 0.166 WS/48... 16.8 ppg
GAP.................. 8.7........... 3.4............ 0.8............ 0.095........ 16.4
* Vernon Maxwell was the Rockets' 2nd leading scorer, so his PPG was used
MJ is #1 all-time in PPG, PER, WS/48, and other key stats while Pippen ranks about 120th in these areas - so there's never been a bigger statistical gap between 1st and 2nd option..
Jordan led Pippen by 10-30 ppg in every series of their career, while everyone else in history needed teammates to match them or lead in scoring for entire playoff runs - i.e. Wade and AD led Lebron in PPG for the 11' and 20' Playoffs, while Kyrie nearly matched Lebron in the 2016 Playoffs.. These equal-scoring partners attract equal defensive attention, so only MJ faced 1-man team defensive coverage for his entire career, as Kenny Smith points out here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UF6Xx3F2Lo&t=114s)
Include 2015 Curry/Klay
3ba11
11-29-2021, 02:27 PM
Include 2015 Curry/Klay
PLAYOFFS
15' Curry........ 24.5 PER.... 8.8 BPM... 2.2 VORP... 0.228 WS/48... 28.3 ppg
15' Klay...,...... 14.8 PER.... 1.9 BPM... 0.7 VORP... 0.118 WS/48... 18.6 ppg
GAP................... 9.7...........6.9........... 1.5............ 0.110.......... 9.7
94' Hakeem.... 27.7 PER.... 8.5 BPM... 2.6 VORP... 0.208 WS/48... 28.9 ppg
94' Horry........ 16.7 PER.... 5.0 BPM... 1.4 VORP... 0.152 WS/48... 11.7 ppg
GAP.................. 11.0...........3.5........... 1.2............ 0.056........ 17.2
93' Jordan...... 30.1 PER... 11.6 BPM... 2.9 VORP... 0.270 WS/48... 35.1 ppg
93' Pippen...... 16.9 PER..... 2.0 BPM... 0.8 VORP... 0.083 WS/48... 20.1 ppg
GAP.................. 13.2........... 9.6........... 2.1............ 0.187....... 15.0
11' Dirk.......... 25.2 PER... 5.5 BPM... 1.6 VORP... 0.210 WS/48... 27.7 ppg
11' Terry......... 20.3 PER... 4.6 BPM... 1.1 VORP... 0.179 WS/48... 17.5 ppg
GAP................... 4.9............1.1........... 0.5............ 0.031........ 10.2
92' Jordan...... 27.2 PER.... 9.9 BPM... 2.8 VORP... 0.216 WS/48... 34.5 ppg
92' Pippen...... 20.1 PER.... 6.6 BPM... 2.0 VORP... 0.168 WS/48... 19.5 ppg
GAP.................. 7.1............ 3.3............ 0.8............ 0.048........ 15.0
91' Jordan...... 32.0 PER... 14.6 BPM... 2.9 VORP... 0.333 WS/48... 31.1 ppg
91' Pippen...... 22.0 PER..... 6.5 BPM... 1.5 VORP... 0.197 WS/48... 21.6 ppg
GAP.................. 10.0........... 8.1........... 1.4............ 0.136........ 9.5
96' Jordan...... 26.7 PER... 10.7 BPM... 2.4 VORP.. 0.317 WS/48... 30.7 ppg
96' Pippen...... 19.4 PER..... 7.8 BPM... 1.8 VORP.. 0.195 WS/48... 16.9 ppg
GAP................... 7.3........... 2.9............ 0.6............ 0.122....... 13.8
97' Jordan...... 27.1 PER.... 9.9 BPM... 2.4 VORP... 0.235 WS/48... 31.1 ppg
97' Pippen...... 18.1 PER.... 5.1 BPM... 1.4 VORP... 0.145 WS/48... 19.2 ppg
GAP.................. 9.1........... 4.8............ 1.0............ 0.090....... 11.9
98' Jordan...... 28.1 PER.... 9.0 BPM... 2.4 VORP... 0.265 WS/48... 32.4 ppg
98' Pippen...... 19.4 PER.... 5.6 BPM... 1.6 VORP... 0.166 WS/48... 16.8 ppg
GAP.................. 8.7........... 3.4............ 0.8............ 0.095........ 16.4
3ba11
11-29-2021, 02:35 PM
PLAYOFFS
15' Curry........ 24.5 PER.... 8.8 BPM... 2.2 VORP... 0.228 WS/48... 28.3 ppg
15' Klay...,...... 14.8 PER.... 1.9 BPM... 0.7 VORP... 0.118 WS/48... 18.6 ppg
GAP................... 9.7...........6.9........... 1.5............ 0.110.......... 9.7
94' Hakeem.... 27.7 PER.... 8.5 BPM... 2.6 VORP... 0.208 WS/48... 28.9 ppg
94' Horry........ 16.7 PER.... 5.0 BPM... 1.4 VORP... 0.152 WS/48... 11.7 ppg
GAP.................. 11.0...........3.5........... 1.2............ 0.056........ 17.2
93' Jordan...... 30.1 PER... 11.6 BPM... 2.9 VORP... 0.270 WS/48... 35.1 ppg
93' Pippen...... 16.9 PER..... 2.0 BPM... 0.8 VORP... 0.083 WS/48... 20.1 ppg
GAP.................. 13.2........... 9.6........... 2.1............ 0.187....... 15.0
11' Dirk.......... 25.2 PER... 5.5 BPM... 1.6 VORP... 0.210 WS/48... 27.7 ppg
11' Terry......... 20.3 PER... 4.6 BPM... 1.1 VORP... 0.179 WS/48... 17.5 ppg
GAP................... 4.9............1.1........... 0.5............ 0.031........ 10.2
92' Jordan...... 27.2 PER.... 9.9 BPM... 2.8 VORP... 0.216 WS/48... 34.5 ppg
92' Pippen...... 20.1 PER.... 6.6 BPM... 2.0 VORP... 0.168 WS/48... 19.5 ppg
GAP.................. 7.1............ 3.3............ 0.8............ 0.048........ 15.0
91' Jordan...... 32.0 PER... 14.6 BPM... 2.9 VORP... 0.333 WS/48... 31.1 ppg
91' Pippen...... 22.0 PER..... 6.5 BPM... 1.5 VORP... 0.197 WS/48... 21.6 ppg
GAP.................. 10.0........... 8.1........... 1.4............ 0.136........ 9.5
96' Jordan...... 26.7 PER... 10.7 BPM... 2.4 VORP.. 0.317 WS/48... 30.7 ppg
96' Pippen...... 19.4 PER..... 7.8 BPM... 1.8 VORP.. 0.195 WS/48... 16.9 ppg
GAP................... 7.3........... 2.9............ 0.6............ 0.122....... 13.8
97' Jordan...... 27.1 PER.... 9.9 BPM... 2.4 VORP... 0.235 WS/48... 31.1 ppg
97' Pippen...... 18.1 PER.... 5.1 BPM... 1.4 VORP... 0.145 WS/48... 19.2 ppg
GAP.................. 9.1........... 4.8............ 1.0............ 0.090....... 11.9
98' Jordan...... 28.1 PER.... 9.0 BPM... 2.4 VORP... 0.265 WS/48... 32.4 ppg
98' Pippen...... 19.4 PER.... 5.6 BPM... 1.6 VORP... 0.166 WS/48... 16.8 ppg
GAP.................. 8.7........... 3.4............ 0.8............ 0.095........ 16.4
^^^ I need to add true shooting... ;)
Pippen's advanced stats in 93' are among the worst-ever because his efficiency was so far below the league average during that run (TS and ORTG).. His true shooting was also worst-ever from 96-98' and below league average for every playoff run of his career except 89-91' and 02'
PLAYOFFS
15' Curry........ 24.5 PER.... 8.8 BPM... 2.2 VORP... 0.228 WS/48... 28.3 ppg
15' Klay...,...... 14.8 PER.... 1.9 BPM... 0.7 VORP... 0.118 WS/48... 18.6 ppg
GAP................... 9.7...........6.9........... 1.5............ 0.110.......... 9.7
94' Hakeem.... 27.7 PER.... 8.5 BPM... 2.6 VORP... 0.208 WS/48... 28.9 ppg
94' Horry........ 16.7 PER.... 5.0 BPM... 1.4 VORP... 0.152 WS/48... 11.7 ppg
GAP.................. 11.0...........3.5........... 1.2............ 0.056........ 17.2
93' Jordan...... 30.1 PER... 11.6 BPM... 2.9 VORP... 0.270 WS/48... 35.1 ppg
93' Pippen...... 16.9 PER..... 2.0 BPM... 0.8 VORP... 0.083 WS/48... 20.1 ppg
GAP.................. 13.2........... 9.6........... 2.1............ 0.187....... 15.0
11' Dirk.......... 25.2 PER... 5.5 BPM... 1.6 VORP... 0.210 WS/48... 27.7 ppg
11' Terry......... 20.3 PER... 4.6 BPM... 1.1 VORP... 0.179 WS/48... 17.5 ppg
GAP................... 4.9............1.1........... 0.5............ 0.031........ 10.2
92' Jordan...... 27.2 PER.... 9.9 BPM... 2.8 VORP... 0.216 WS/48... 34.5 ppg
92' Pippen...... 20.1 PER.... 6.6 BPM... 2.0 VORP... 0.168 WS/48... 19.5 ppg
GAP.................. 7.1............ 3.3............ 0.8............ 0.048........ 15.0
91' Jordan...... 32.0 PER... 14.6 BPM... 2.9 VORP... 0.333 WS/48... 31.1 ppg
91' Pippen...... 22.0 PER..... 6.5 BPM... 1.5 VORP... 0.197 WS/48... 21.6 ppg
GAP.................. 10.0........... 8.1........... 1.4............ 0.136........ 9.5
96' Jordan...... 26.7 PER... 10.7 BPM... 2.4 VORP.. 0.317 WS/48... 30.7 ppg
96' Pippen...... 19.4 PER..... 7.8 BPM... 1.8 VORP.. 0.195 WS/48... 16.9 ppg
GAP................... 7.3........... 2.9............ 0.6............ 0.122....... 13.8
97' Jordan...... 27.1 PER.... 9.9 BPM... 2.4 VORP... 0.235 WS/48... 31.1 ppg
97' Pippen...... 18.1 PER.... 5.1 BPM... 1.4 VORP... 0.145 WS/48... 19.2 ppg
GAP.................. 9.1........... 4.8............ 1.0............ 0.090....... 11.9
98' Jordan...... 28.1 PER.... 9.0 BPM... 2.4 VORP... 0.265 WS/48... 32.4 ppg
98' Pippen...... 19.4 PER.... 5.6 BPM... 1.6 VORP... 0.166 WS/48... 16.8 ppg
GAP.................. 8.7........... 3.4............ 0.8............ 0.095........ 16.4
:applause:
^^^ I need to add true shooting... ;)
Pippen's advanced stats in 93' are among the worst-ever because his efficiency was so far below the league average during that run (TS and ORTG).. His true shooting was also worst-ever from 96-98' and below league average for every playoff run of his career except 89-91' and 02'
2015 Curry - 60.7% TS%
2015 Klay - 55.3% TS%
Gap - 5.4%
1994 Hakeem - 56.8% TS%
1994 Horry - 54.1% TS%
Gap - 2.7%
2011 Dirk - 60.9% TS%
2011 Terry - 60.4% TS%
Gap - 0.5% (lol?)
1991 Jordan - 60% TS%
1991 Pippen - 56.4% TS%
Gap - 3.6%
1992 Jordan - 57.1% TS%
1992 Pippen - 54.4% TS%
Gap - 2.7%
1993 Jordan - 55.3% TS%
1993 Pippen - 50.4% TS%
Gap - 4.9%
1996 Jordan - 56.4% TS%
1996 Pippen - 47.3% TS%
Gap - 9.1% (WTF Scottie)
1997 Jordan - 52.4% TS%
1997 Pippen - 52.6% TS%
Gap - -0.2% (???)
1998 Jordan - 54.5% TS%
1998 Pippen - 50% TS%
Gap - 4.5%
3ba11
11-29-2021, 03:12 PM
2015 Curry - 60.7% TS%
2015 Klay - 55.3% TS%
Gap - 5.4%
1994 Hakeem - 56.8% TS%
1994 Horry - 54.1% TS%
Gap - 2.7%
2011 Dirk - 60.9% TS%
2011 Terry - 60.4% TS%
Gap - 0.5% (lol?)
1991 Jordan - 60% TS%
1991 Pippen - 56.4% TS%
Gap - 3.6%
1992 Jordan - 57.1% TS%
1992 Pippen - 54.4% TS%
Gap - 2.7%
1993 Jordan - 55.3% TS%
1993 Pippen - 50.4% TS%
Gap - 4.9%
1996 Jordan - 56.4% TS%
1996 Pippen - 47.3% TS%
Gap - 9.1% (WTF Scottie)
1997 Jordan - 52.4% TS%
1997 Pippen - 52.6% TS%
Gap - -0.2% (???)
1998 Jordan - 54.5% TS%
1998 Pippen - 50% TS%
Gap - 4.5%
Pippen's 47-50% true shooting in the 93', 96, and 98' Playoffs are 3 of the 7 worst true shootings for a winning sidekick in 3-point history (since 1980)
Jordan shot a little lower in 97' Playoffs because he was tying Rodman for the rebounding lead (8 rpg), while leading the team in APG and nearly doubling Pippen's ppg in playoffs and Finals (maximum defensive attention)... and also leading the league in clutch points (last 5 within 5), while Pippen was MIA in the clutch and forced MJ to make 3 game-winning plays in the Finals
AirBonner
11-29-2021, 03:15 PM
DeRozan>>>MJ
Pippen's 47-50% true shooting in the 93', 96, and 98' Playoffs are 3 of the 7 worst true shootings for a winning sidekick in 3-point history (since 1980)
Jordan shot a little lower in 97' Playoffs because he was tying Rodman for the rebounding lead (8 rpg), while leading the team in APG and nearly doubling Pippen's ppg in playoffs and Finals (maximum defensive attention)... and also leading the league in clutch points (last 5 within 5), while Pippen was MIA in the clutch and forced MJ to make 3 game-winning plays in the Finals
Jordan's TS Add in 1997 playoffs was almost certainly way higher than Pippen's, although we don't have playoff TS Add stats
TheCorporation
11-29-2021, 03:57 PM
PLAYOFFS
15' Curry........ 24.5 PER.... 8.8 BPM... 2.2 VORP... 0.228 WS/48... 28.3 ppg
15' Klay...,...... 14.8 PER.... 1.9 BPM... 0.7 VORP... 0.118 WS/48... 18.6 ppg
GAP................... 9.7...........6.9........... 1.5............ 0.110.......... 9.7
94' Hakeem.... 27.7 PER.... 8.5 BPM... 2.6 VORP... 0.208 WS/48... 28.9 ppg
94' Horry........ 16.7 PER.... 5.0 BPM... 1.4 VORP... 0.152 WS/48... 11.7 ppg
GAP.................. 11.0...........3.5........... 1.2............ 0.056........ 17.2
93' Jordan...... 30.1 PER... 11.6 BPM... 2.9 VORP... 0.270 WS/48... 35.1 ppg
93' Pippen...... 16.9 PER..... 2.0 BPM... 0.8 VORP... 0.083 WS/48... 20.1 ppg
GAP.................. 13.2........... 9.6........... 2.1............ 0.187....... 15.0
11' Dirk.......... 25.2 PER... 5.5 BPM... 1.6 VORP... 0.210 WS/48... 27.7 ppg
11' Terry......... 20.3 PER... 4.6 BPM... 1.1 VORP... 0.179 WS/48... 17.5 ppg
GAP................... 4.9............1.1........... 0.5............ 0.031........ 10.2
92' Jordan...... 27.2 PER.... 9.9 BPM... 2.8 VORP... 0.216 WS/48... 34.5 ppg
92' Pippen...... 20.1 PER.... 6.6 BPM... 2.0 VORP... 0.168 WS/48... 19.5 ppg
GAP.................. 7.1............ 3.3............ 0.8............ 0.048........ 15.0
91' Jordan...... 32.0 PER... 14.6 BPM... 2.9 VORP... 0.333 WS/48... 31.1 ppg
91' Pippen...... 22.0 PER..... 6.5 BPM... 1.5 VORP... 0.197 WS/48... 21.6 ppg
GAP.................. 10.0........... 8.1........... 1.4............ 0.136........ 9.5
96' Jordan...... 26.7 PER... 10.7 BPM... 2.4 VORP.. 0.317 WS/48... 30.7 ppg
96' Pippen...... 19.4 PER..... 7.8 BPM... 1.8 VORP.. 0.195 WS/48... 16.9 ppg
GAP................... 7.3........... 2.9............ 0.6............ 0.122....... 13.8
97' Jordan...... 27.1 PER.... 9.9 BPM... 2.4 VORP... 0.235 WS/48... 31.1 ppg
97' Pippen...... 18.1 PER.... 5.1 BPM... 1.4 VORP... 0.145 WS/48... 19.2 ppg
GAP.................. 9.1........... 4.8............ 1.0............ 0.090....... 11.9
98' Jordan...... 28.1 PER.... 9.0 BPM... 2.4 VORP... 0.265 WS/48... 32.4 ppg
98' Pippen...... 19.4 PER.... 5.6 BPM... 1.6 VORP... 0.166 WS/48... 16.8 ppg
GAP.................. 8.7........... 3.4............ 0.8............ 0.095........ 16.4
Uhh, you could have just done this by showing the FGA gaps between MJ & Pippen and it would have been much easier :lol
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