Magic Johnson has never averaged 22PPG for a 10 game playoff run

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Magic Johnson has never averaged 22PPG for a 10 game playoff run. Even Scottie Pippen has done it in 1994 and he's the woat scorer for a top 30 guy.

The only time magic johnson averaged 22PPG or more was 1 year in his entire career and that was 1990 with just a 9 game sample size. How does this aids rotten diseased piece of crap get ranked over kawhi? Even in the top 5 at times. I think its just because people feel sorry for the guys ***** and the LA hype. What an overrated player, you can't play defense or even score 22 points hahahhah

Kawhi destroys this BUM

[Pip' N Rodman]

Kawhi averaged more than 17ppg once in the Finals...

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kawhi averaged more than 17ppg once in the Finals...

24PPG on 69% FG in 3 straight wins over LeBron in 2014

[ShawkFactory]

Stop

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Stop

Even Scottie pippen was a better scorer then HIV

As proven in OP

[Baller789]

Magic Johnson has never averaged 22PPG for a 10 game playoff run. Even Scottie Pippen has done it in 1994 and he's the woat scorer for a top 30 guy.

The only time magic johnson averaged 22PPG or more was 1 year in his entire career and that was 1990 with just a 9 game sample size. How does this aids rotten diseased piece of crap get ranked over kawhi? Even in the top 5 at times. I think its just because people feel sorry for the guys ***** and the LA hype. What an overrated player, you can't play defense or even score 22 points hahahhah

Kawhi destroys this BUM

What was his rpg and apg?

[HBK_Kliq_2]

What was his rpg and apg?

Who cares when he ain't giving ya elite scoring or elite defense, two most important things in the game. Also happens to be the two things kawhi is better then everybody at.

[Baller789]

Who cares when he ain't giving ya elite scoring or elite defense, two most important things in the game. Also happens to be the two things kawhi is better then everybody at.

Who cares if its detrimental to your agenda right?
:applause:

[hateraid]

Magic Johnson has never averaged 22PPG for a 10 game playoff run. Even Scottie Pippen has done it in 1994 and he's the woat scorer for a top 30 guy.

The only time magic johnson averaged 22PPG or more was 1 year in his entire career and that was 1990 with just a 9 game sample size. How does this aids rotten diseased piece of crap get ranked over kawhi? Even in the top 5 at times. I think its just because people feel sorry for the guys ***** and the LA hype. What an overrated player, you can't play defense or even score 22 points hahahhah

Kawhi destroys this BUM

Please don't bring Magic up into this gate discussion

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Because NBA is fake like WWE and they hand pick who ever they want to be successful. So you get overrated ass bums like Magic as 5 time WWE champion because he smiles and makes white people comfortable.

Exactly, that and LA market and the pity for aids. What an overrated **** he is

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Who cares if its detrimental to your agenda right?
:applause:

Your question was based on an agenda of strictly rebs assists.

Magic is a draymond green level player who is hyped up because he smiled and played for Lakers

[RRR3]

The insane thing about OP is that there isn’t and has never been a single poster who agrees with him and his Kawhi is GOAT agenda. As idiotic as 3ball is, he finds people to agree with him. OP is truly so fringe he is the only person on earth who believes what he’s saying.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

The insane thing about OP is that there isn’t and has never been a single poster who agrees with him and his Kawhi is GOAT agenda. As idiotic as 3ball is, he finds people to agree with him. OP is truly so fringe he is the only person on earth who believes what he’s saying.

I always back it up with facts that are never refuted.

Tragic aids magic is a massively worse scorer and defender then kawhi aka kawhi is better

[000]

How many times did Kawhi average 19+ against a healthy Finals team?

Magic did it in:
1980
1983

[RRR3]

I always back it up with facts that are never refuted.

Tragic aids magic is a massively worse scorer and defender then kawhi aka kawhi is better
How come literally no one on earth agrees with you?

[HBK_Kliq_2]

How many times did Kawhi average 19+ against a healthy Finals team?

Magic did it in:
1980
1983

0 lengthy playoff runs with 22PPG hahahhaha that's the definition of a bum and 80s was easier to score then kawhi's era.


Kawhi beat curry and LeBron who are 2 players better then anybody that tragic magic ever beat.

Warriors aren't healthy this season and are on 70 win pace. Curry was more healthy in 2019 finals then he was in 2016 finals. F off with your healthy bullshit.

Kareem was also always better then Duncan in 2014 so kawhi's 2014 ring is better then all of magics rings besides maybe 88. Then kawhi's 2019 run blows away any tragic aids run ever had.

[000]

0 lengthy playoff runs with 22PPG hahahhaha that's the definition of a bum and 80s was easier to score then kawhi's era.


Kawhi beat curry and LeBron who are 2 players better then anybody that tragic magic ever beat.

Warriors aren't healthy this season and are on 70 win pace. Curry was more healthy in 2019 finals then he was in 2016 finals. F off with your healthy bullshit.

Kareem was also always better then Duncan in 2014 so kawhi's 2014 ring is better then all of magics rings besides maybe 88. Then kawhi's 2019 run blows away any tragic aids run ever had.
Kawhi 19+ against healthy Finals team. Y/N?

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kawhi 19+ against healthy Finals team. Y/N?

Curry was injured all playoffs in 2016 and missed multiple rounds because of it. Curry in 2019 was load managing with durant and was 100% healthy going into finals.

That still doesn't take away the fact that tragic magic has never led 1 title team in PPG, couldn't even average 22 f'n points for 10 playoff games huh tragic

[000]

Curry was injured all playoffs in 2016 and missed multiple rounds because of it. Curry in 2019 was load managing with durant and was 100% healthy going into finals.

That still doesn't take away the fact that tragic magic has never led 1 title team in PPG, couldn't even average 22 f'n points for 10 playoff games huh tragic

Kawhi 19+ vs healthy team in the Finals. How many times?

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kawhi 19+ vs healthy team in the Finals. How many times?

Kawhi is the only man to win finals mvp over both LeBron and curry.

Don't you EVER compare tragic condoms to kawhi

[000]

Kawhi is the only man to win finals mvp over both LeBron and curry.

Don't you EVER compare tragic condoms to kawhi

Wow! That's pretty awesome, so I guess he must've averaged 19+ against a healthy Finals team right?

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Wow! That's pretty awesome, so I guess he must've averaged 19+ against a healthy Finals team right?

In the past eras like 90s and 2000s you get 3peats like Jordan/pip and Shaq/kobe

In the 2010s era you get your ass handed too by kawhi if you try it. What happened to the south bitch talents in 2014? And what happened to the duo of the decade curry draymond in 2019? Somebody THICK took them out, somebody really THICK.

[000]

In the past eras like 90s and 2000s you get 3peats like Jordan/pip and Shaq/kobe

In the 2010s era you get your ass handed too by kawhi if you try it. What happened to the south bitch talents in 2014? And what happened to the duo of the decade curry draymond in 2019? Somebody THICK took them out, somebody really THICK.

What happened? Kawhi averaging 19+ against a healthy Finals opponent is what happened.

Right?

...?

[RRR3]

How come literally no one on earth agrees with you?
Of course brick ducked this lol. He knows he’s wrong. What a troll.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

How come literally no one on earth agrees with you?

I've had plenty of people agree kawhi is the best. There's a lot of idiots out there. Michael Jordan was quoted as saying kawhi is the best today back in 2017. Plenty of smart fans know kawhi is the best.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

What happened? Kawhi averaging 19+ against a healthy Finals opponent is what happened.

Right?

...?

He eliminated a healthy curry and LeBron which is unmatched by any player in nba history. 0 stands for 0 brain cells or what? Get it together man

[RRR3]

I've had plenty of people agree kawhi is the best. There's a lot of idiots out there. Michael Jordan was quoted as saying kawhi is the best today back in 2017. Plenty of smart fans know kawhi is the best.
Name a single person on earth besides yourself who thinks Kawhi is the best ever.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Name a single person on earth besides yourself who thinks Kawhi is the best ever.

3ball had him in top 10 already which means he's on a goat projectory at age 30.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kawhi 19+ against healthy Finals team. Y/N?


https://youtu.be/FCOsnlY-oZs

Keep your mouth shut. Your name is 000 because that's your iq buddy

[RRR3]

3ball had him in top 10 already which means he's on a goat projectory at age 30.
3ball will never rank him over Kobe or Jordan and you know it. So you can’t even name one person :yaohappy:


By your own admission, no one agrees with you. Argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy to be sure, but if you’re the ONLY PERSON ON EARTH who believes something, you’re almost certainly wrong.

[000]

He eliminated a healthy curry and LeBron which is unmatched by any player in nba history. 0 stands for 0 brain cells or what? Get it together man



https://youtu.be/FCOsnlY-oZs

Keep your mouth shut. Your name is 000 because that's your iq buddy



Instead of answering a super-simple Y/N question you choose to meltdown. Interesting.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Instead of answering a super-simple Y/N question you choose to meltdown. Interesting.

As soon as you can tell me what other player won a finals mvp over a healthy LeBron and curry, I will answer any question.

[000]

As soon as you can tell me what other player won a finals mvp over a healthy LeBron and curry, I will answer any question.

Nobody.

But how impressive is that if you do it without averaging 19+ against a healthy Finals team? Well I'm sure Kawhi did that but you've been weirdly evasive about it..

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Nobody. .

I knew their had to be some brain in that noggin. Exactly, nobody. LeBron and curry are the next best two of this era and kawhi beating them makes him the goat.

LeBron and curry > shaq and kobe
LeBron and curry > bird and tragic
LeBron and curry > wilt and Russell

Kawhi can tell anybody i won finals mvp over LeBron and curry the two guys that are better then any 2 guys from the past eras

[000]

I knew their had to be some brain in that noggin. Exactly, nobody. LeBron and curry are the next best two of this era and kawhi beating them makes him the goat.

LeBron and curry > shaq and kobe
LeBron and curry > bird and tragic
LeBron and curry > wilt and Russell

Kawhi can tell anybody i won finals mvp over LeBron and curry the two guys that are better then any 2 guys from the past eras

Fmvp doesn't mean much, at least in this era. See: 2015 Finals.

[Gohan]

How come literally no one on earth agrees with you?

Who cares if anyone agrees with him, hes telling the truth about tragic. I dont agree with him either though lol

[Baller789]

Your question was based on an agenda of strictly rebs assists.

Magic is a draymond green level player who is hyped up because he smiled and played for Lakers

And your isn't?

Pathetic fool. :oldlol:

[LeCola]

I just google his Finals stats.

Result:

Magic Johnson averaged 19.4 points, 11.7 assists and 7.9 rebounds in 50 games in the NBA Finals in his career.


Do you really think those stats are not impressive?

[RRR3]

OP banned :roll:

[Phoenix]

3 pages, 40 posts. OP has now paid for his Mcmuffin, not quite enough for the value meal though.

[Phoenix]

OP banned :roll:

This is ISH. He'll be back tomorrow.

[RRR3]

This is ISH. He'll be back tomorrow.
It’s still funny thinking of him steaming being unable to post. Also how funny is it that Kenny’s bans are always permanent? Jeff hates him :lol

[dankok8]

Ever heard of playmaking OP?

[8Ball]

I never understood being a Kawhi stan and posting stuff like this.

Magic Johnson is a top 6 all time player.

[Round Mound]

When you have Kareem, Worthy and Scott you really don't need to score that much.

[Bronbron23]

Magic Johnson has never averaged 22PPG for a 10 game playoff run. Even Scottie Pippen has done it in 1994 and he's the woat scorer for a top 30 guy.

The only time magic johnson averaged 22PPG or more was 1 year in his entire career and that was 1990 with just a 9 game sample size. How does this aids rotten diseased piece of crap get ranked over kawhi? Even in the top 5 at times. I think its just because people feel sorry for the guys ***** and the LA hype. What an overrated player, you can't play defense or even score 22 points hahahhah

Kawhi destroys this BUM

Kawhi's best post season where he won a ring was 31/4. Magic was 22/12. So kawhi was responsible for 39 total points and magic was responsible for 44 total points. Yes Kawhi's better defence is a huge factor but so is magics decision making and leadership advantage.

[SouBeachTalents]

How do you seriously not get tired of this gimmick

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Yall finally sterilized this animal. Salute mods

[Phoenix]

When you have Kareem, Worthy and Scott you really don't need to score that much.

Exactly. Magic could have dropped 25 and 12 every year of his peak/prime if he wanted( he was 24 and 12 in 87 when he was actually 'trying' to be a primary scorer, and there were still 6 other double digit scorers after him starting with Worthy at 19ppg).

[3ba11]

Similar to Lebron, Magic couldn't win with high scoring against the top teams - see the 90' ECSF where he averaged 30 and was upset by a dominant KJ Suns team.

Magic and Lebron can't beat the top teams with high scoring because their high scoring is a lower brand (too ball-dominant) and lacks elite jumpshooting skill (capacity for ball movement).. Since their high scoring can't win, they need elite 1st options to play sidekick and outplay league MVP's - they can't carry the scoring load against top teams aside from 1-offs

Ultimately, Lebron and Magic never won without equal-scoring teammates to attract equal defensive attention, so they never defeated maximum defensive attention

[TheCorporation]

Playoff Scoring

1. LeBron
2. Jordan
15. Magic
31. Kawhi

[Phoenix]

Similar to Lebron, Magic couldn't win with high scoring against the top teams - see the 90' ECSF where he averaged 30 and was upset by a dominant KJ Suns team.



What is your definition of high scoring and top team?

[3ba11]

What is your definition of high scoring and top team?


It will vary depending on the game but it's discernable by the eye - at some point during a series, we see ball-dominant teams get solved and the opposing team starts to go off.. We can tell when one team is stagnant and needs to move the ball to open things up like the other team is .

Ultimately, ball-dominance doesn't wear down defenses like ball movement, so opponents have more capacity to go off offensively - that's why all of Lebron's opponents that he was supposed to beat just "got hot", including the 09' Magic, 11' Mavs, 14' Spurs, 17' Warriors (Nick Wright and others swore that the 17' Warriors had no chance vs Cavs).. so the best defense is a good offense, but bron-ball loses the attrition battle on the championship level.

[TheCorporation]

Playoff Scoring

1. LeBron
2. Jordan
15. Magic
31. Kawhi

3ball?

[Phoenix]

It will vary depending on the game but it's discernable by the eye - at some point during a series, we see ball-dominant teams get solved and the opposing team starts to go off.



So you don't have a figure in mind? What do you consider high scoring?

[3ba11]

So you don't have a figure in mind? What do you consider high scoring?


We saw Lebron's ball-dominance become excessive and lose at high scoring levels in the 09' ECF (lost as favorite).

Lebron also lost with high scoring in the 15' Finals because he couldn't shoot well at the higher jumpshooting volume required of carry-jobs.. Lebron never beat a top 5 SRS team with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick, so he never had a carry-job in 2 decades of playing, and he also never carried the scoring load to win a Finals by scoring far more than sidekick (never beat max defensive attention due to equal-scoring partners).

[Hey Yo]

When you have Kareem, Worthy and Scott you really don't need to score that much.

That's why Magic, too me, is somewhat overrated. He doesn't get flak for not have to score too much, nor having to play defense cause he had the teammates to do that yet a lot have him top 5 all time. Didn't have to do a lot, but still got praised a lot by media, fans etc...

I would have been more impressed if got drafted by a shit team and showed he could take them to new heights with scoring + defense along with passing and rebounding.

[Phoenix]

We saw Lebron's ball-dominance become excessive and lose at high scoring levels in the 09' ECF (lost as favorite).

Lebron also lost with high scoring in the 15' Finals because he couldn't shoot well at the higher jumpshooting volume required of carry-jobs.. Lebron never beat a top 5 SRS team with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick, so he never had a carry-job in 2 decades of playing, and he also never carried the scoring load to win a Finals by scoring far more than sidekick (never beat max defensive attention due to equal-scoring partners).

So you gonna give a baseline figure at some point?

[3ba11]

That's why Magic, too me, is somewhat overrated. He doesn't get flak for not have to score too much, nor having to play defense cause he had the teammates to do that yet a lot have him top 5 all time. Didn't have to do a lot, but still got praised a lot by media, fans etc...

I would have been more impressed if got drafted by a shit team and showed he could take them to new heights with scoring + defense along with passing and rebounding.


He isn't in my top 10 because my top 10 doesn't have colluders/team-hoppers and only has guys that know how to WIN (organic).. In addition to organic winners, my top 10 also values guys that defeated maximum defensive attention by not having equal-scoring partners (they won a ring by averaging 10 ppg more than teammates in PO & Finals)..

I also don't have any ball-dominators or centers in my top 10 because their rigid styles require super-team help and still yield underwhelming team ceilings/Finals records.

[ImKobe]

He isn't in my top 10 because my top 10 doesn't have colluders/team-hoppers and only has guys that know how to WIN (organic).. In addition to organic winners, my top 10 also values guys that defeated maximum defensive attention by not having equal-scoring partners (they won a ring by averaging 10 ppg more than teammates in PO & Finals)..

I also don't have any ball-dominators or centers in my top 10 because their rigid styles require super-team help and still yield underwhelming team ceilings/Finals records.

I agree with most of your points, but Kareem & Shaq are top 10.

[Phoenix]

He isn't in my top 10 because my top 10 doesn't have colluders/team-hoppers and only has guys that know how to WIN (organic).. In addition to organic winners, my top 10 also values guys that defeated maximum defensive attention by not having equal-scoring partners (they won a ring by averaging 10 ppg more than teammates in PO & Finals)..



Neither was Giannis till 4 months ago. And a month before that, he was a Pippen level bum according to you.

[SouBeachTalents]

Neither was Giannis till 4 months ago. And a month before that, he was a Pippen level bum according to you.
Don’t forget Curry going from the most overrated player of all time to top 5 ever in the span of 5 moths. His idiocy goes well beyond Giannis.

[Kblaze8855]

He doesn't get flak for not have to score too much, nor having to play defense cause he had the teammates to do that yet a lot have him top 5 all time.


It doesn’t matter who anyone’s goat is…..dropping them onto a great or bad team doesn’t change their baseline ability to play. It changes perception because fans are frankly…stupid.

The best player ever on the team of the second best ever wouldn’t somehow make the two of them only 16h and 17th. I wish I could peek into a world where that 3rd pick and drexler for Sampson trade isn’t rejected by Houston so Hakeem and Jordan are the goat duo but keep each other from being viewed as great as they are now.

The “But Jordan had Hakeem who was the best big on both ends for 10 years. Hakeem helped him rob Bird of a sure third ring in 86. No way he has 6 on his own. It would be like 3 and 3 with Bird. Not to mention Drexler who saved them in 89.” and “Yea but Hakeem had Jordan and Drexler his whole career. He retires ringless like Ewing on his own. You think he wins with Horry and Kenny Smith? Idiot.”.

Almost none of these conversations seem to come down to how well these people play because so many seem to struggle to separate how good an individual is from how well their team is playing. I understand because it is complicated. But it’s necessary.

[SATAN]

OP banned :roll:

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