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3ba11
11-27-2021, 04:11 PM
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He doesn't instill fear in opponents - he doesn't even get doubled!!!


http://a2.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fmedia%2FscGraphics%2F2015%2F06%2F11%2FFS_ 1PM_NBA_061115_LeBron_James_touches_1434037356076. jpg&w=570


defenses meet penetrators at the rim with multiple defenders and don't need to double-team them on the perimeter - so only hot jumpshooters get doubled and Lebron lacks elite jumpshooting skill and actually AVOIDS contested jumpers..

1987_Lakers
11-27-2021, 04:17 PM
He doesn't get doubled because he is an all-time great passer.

JohnMax
11-27-2021, 04:24 PM
He doesn't get doubled because he is an all-time great passer.


https://youtube.com/watch?v=Gev_Phjl764

Full Court
11-27-2021, 05:29 PM
This is one of those intangibles that stats don't show and that most young people today who think Lebrone and Jordan were at the same level just don't get. Michael Jordan instilled a fear in opponents in a way that Lebrone never has. They all knew that the only way to beat the Bulls was to beat Jordan.

HBK_Kliq_2
11-27-2021, 05:33 PM
Brook Lopez all defense guy and is averaging 3 blocks a game, giannis defensive player of the year, embiid all defense, draymond green the defense anchor of a 73 win team.

Lopez\Giannis\Embiid\Draymond - these are all 90s type centers and they alll got GOT by kawhi. Showing how dominant kawhi would be in the 90s

AirBonner
11-27-2021, 05:46 PM
LeBron is a better all around player than MJ

tpols
11-27-2021, 05:50 PM
He doesn't get doubled because he is an all-time great passer.

If we had the statistics most all time greats were doubled far more. Great passers still get doubled, especially if they're supposedly GOAT scorers.

Spurs m8
11-27-2021, 06:17 PM
Why would you double someone you don't respect?lmao
Let him throw that brick up

ShawkFactory
11-27-2021, 06:19 PM
I feel like Lebron was doubled a lot earlier in his career and it created a lot of chaos. I remember the term hockey assist was popularized by his game in 09 or so.

Teams figured out that not doubling him was the safer route.

3ba11
11-27-2021, 06:46 PM
He doesn't get doubled because he is an all-time great passer.


"Double-teams create a 4-on-3 off the ball" - Lebron James (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473175-quot-Double-teams-create-a-4-on-3-off-the-ball-quot-Lebron-James)

Accordingly, it's a false narrative that teams don't double Lebron because he's such a good passer, since all double teams create a 4-on-3 disadvantage for the defense

4-on-3's are bad for any defense, not just when Lebron gets doubled.. #basketball101

Teams don't double Lebron because his scoring isn't lethal enough to make it worth the gamble (4-on-3 off the ball).. It's easy for forget that teams meet penetrators in the paint with multiple defenders and therefore only double-team hot jumpshooters.. Lebron's jumpshot rarely "pops off", so teams don't need to double..

Another reason Lebron's scoring isn't lethal enough to double is because it's too ball-dominant at high volumes to beat the best teams - that's why Stan Van Gundy said they wanted Lebron to dribble and get stats.

ShawkFactory
11-27-2021, 06:50 PM
"Double-teams create a 4-on-3 off the ball" - Lebron James (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473175-quot-Double-teams-create-a-4-on-3-off-the-ball-quot-Lebron-James)

Accordingly, it's a false narrative that teams don't double Lebron because he's such a good passer, since all double teams create a 4-on-3 disadvantage for the defense

4-on-3's are bad for any defense, not just when Lebron gets doubled.. #basketball101

Teams don't double Lebron because his scoring isn't lethal enough to make it worth the gamble (4-on-3 off the ball).. It's easy for forget that teams meet penetrators in the paint with multiple defenders and therefore only double-team hot jumpshooters.. Lebron's jumpshot rarely "pops off", so teams don't need to double..

Another reason Lebron's scoring isn't lethal enough to double is because it's too ball-dominant at high volumes to beat the best teams - that's why Stan Van Gundy said they wanted Lebron to dribble and get stats.

Why the fvck have you changed your post 3 times?

3ba11
11-27-2021, 07:06 PM
Why the fvck have you changed your post 3 times?


Why the fvck are you deflecting?

Teams meet penetrators at the rim with multiple defenders and only double-team hot jumpshooters - so Lebron's jumper isn't good enough to warrant the gamble of double-teaming (4-on-3 off the ball), while his ball-dominance is preferred in high doses rather than seeing the ball move - so it's better to leave the ball in Lebron's hands, rather than double him and actually see the ball move.. James Worthy agrees with me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAS5QQ3s40c&t=02m55s).

ShawkFactory
11-27-2021, 07:09 PM
Why the fvck are you deflecting?

Teams meet penetrators at the rim with multiple defenders and only double-team hot jumpshooters - so Lebron's jumper isn't good enough to warrant the gamble of double-teaming (4-on-3 off the ball), while his ball-dominance is preferred in high doses rather than seeing the ball move - so it's better to leave the ball in Lebron's hands, rather than double him and actually see the ball move.. James Worthy agrees with me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAS5QQ3s40c&t=02m55s).

Irony.

3ba11
11-27-2021, 07:13 PM
Irony.


I deflected your derail, which is what you're suipposed to do.. So the point stands..

Teams meet penetrators at the rim with multiple defenders and only double-team hot jumpshooters - so Lebron's jumper isn't good enough to warrant the gamble of double-teaming (4-on-3 off the ball), while his ball-dominance is preferred in high doses rather than seeing the ball move - so it's better to leave the ball in Lebron's hands, rather than double him and actually see the ball move..

ShawkFactory
11-27-2021, 07:19 PM
I deflected your derail, which is what you're suipposed to do.. So the point stands..

Teams meet penetrators at the rim with multiple defenders and only double-team hot jumpshooters - so Lebron's jumper isn't good enough to warrant the gamble of double-teaming (4-on-3 off the ball), while his ball-dominance is preferred in high doses rather than seeing the ball move - so it's better to leave the ball in Lebron's hands, rather than double him and actually see the ball move..

Also the irony. You do that on purpose, right?

3ba11
11-27-2021, 07:26 PM
Also the irony. You do that on purpose, right?


You derailed the thread by asking about my posting style instead of addressing the OP...

so you're a derailer but at least now you understand that Lebron wasn't feared in the basketball sense like Jordan was - no "lebron rules" and no double-teaming...




Also the irony. You do that on purpose, right?


Is there any doubt who will get the ball here?

listen to the PANIC in the coaches' voices - this is serious - THAT GUY is about the get the ball:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvNizoP-07Y&t=11m42s


Only 1 guy inspired this kind of fear

ShawkFactory
11-27-2021, 07:32 PM
You derailed the thread by asking about my posting style instead of addressing the OP...

so you're a derailer but at least now you understand that Lebron wasn't feared in the basketball sense like Jordan was - no "lebron rules" and no double-teaming...






Is there any doubt who will get the ball here?

listen to the PANIC in the coaches' voices - this is serious - THAT GUY is about the get the ball:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvNizoP-07Y&t=11m42s


Only 1 guy inspired this kind of fear

Dude, AGAIN with the irony. On fire

SATAN
11-27-2021, 09:41 PM
Every time OP thinks he is making a clever point he demonstrates that he either hasn't actually thought through the scenario or hasn't watched many games.

Absolute retard.

PP34Deuce
11-27-2021, 10:23 PM
Doubling lebron is a double edged sword.

He doesn't get doubled he scores more and freezes teammates out.

He gets doubled. He makes the right play 95% of the time and gets his team confidence.

sportjames23
11-27-2021, 10:37 PM
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He doesn't instill fear in opponents - he doesn't even get doubled!!!


http://a2.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fmedia%2FscGraphics%2F2015%2F06%2F11%2FFS_ 1PM_NBA_061115_LeBron_James_touches_1434037356076. jpg&w=570


defenses meet penetrators at the rim with multiple defenders and don't need to double-team them on the perimeter - so only hot jumpshooters get doubled and Lebron lacks elite jumpshooting skill and actually AVOIDS contested jumpers..

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