Would you rather 1 chip or 20 runner ups?

[Bronbron23]

Is there anyone in this shit hole that would actually rather have the 20 runner ups?

[theman93]

Is there anyone in this shit hole that would actually rather have the 20 runner ups?

Yes, all the Lebron stans on here.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

One title over an infinite amount of appearances.

Unless you're chasing individual stats, most would agree.

Far as career rankings go? Depends on how you play. If I was great for that one title run and grabbed a FMVP in the process, ya it does wonders for my legacy. At the same time, 20 appearances playing great does too. The all-time stuff is really dependent on context.

[RogueBorg]

Is there anyone in this shit hole that would actually rather have the 20 runner ups?

The Buffalo Bills are not proud of making 4 straight Super Bowls.

[3ba11]

One title over an infinite amount of appearances.

Unless you're chasing individual stats, most would agree.

Far as career rankings go? Depends on how you play. If I was great for that one title run and grabbed a FMVP in the process, ya it does wonders for my legacy. At the same time, 20 appearances playing great does too. The all-time stuff is really dependent on context.


Everyone always says that generally-speaking, a basketball player can influence the outcome more than a football player or baseball player... But then when a basketball player goes 4/10, everyone says it was random circumstance and doesn't blame the player.

This is obviously wrong

A basketball player's skills affects how good the team is and the team's ultimate ceiling - i.e. ball-dominators have lower team ceilings and need more help than players with elite jumpshooting skill that allow the capacity for ball movement... Ball-dominators simply offer lower long-run odds due to a team brand that usually falls short of championship-caliber.

[gonzaldo]

So Jerry West or Isiah Thomas - who is a bigger legend?

[Bronbron23]

One title over an infinite amount of appearances.

Unless you're chasing individual stats, most would agree.

Far as career rankings go? Depends on how you play. If I was great for that one title run and grabbed a FMVP in the process, ya it does wonders for my legacy. At the same time, 20 appearances playing great does too. The all-time stuff is really dependent on context.

Good take. Problem with context is it's subjective depending on the viewer. For instances some see the 90's ad a way harder physical defense era where it was way harder to score. Others view the 90's as a bunch primitive players and playing style.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

1 chip for sure because then you're Chris Paul.

Although what Paul is doing with the suns these last few years, he's going to go down as the best player ever to not win a ring. Not sure that's something I would brag about, I rather be dirk nowitski

[ShawkFactory]

Depends on how good you are in the other 19. I’d take 20 runner-ups over 1 title and no other playoff appearances.

There’d be a lot of heartbreak but there are a lot more meaningful games too.

[SATAN]

Good take. Problem with context is it's subjective depending on the viewer. For instances some see the 90's ad a way harder physical defense era where it was way harder to score. Others view the 90's as a bunch primitive players and playing style.

The 90s was NOT as physical or tough as MJ stans and casuals make it out to be. Or some old players for that matter.

[Hey Yo]

Depends on how good you are in the other 19. I’d take 20 runner-ups over 1 title and no other playoff appearances.

There’d be a lot of heartbreak but there are a lot more meaningful games too.

Considering that players normally have $$ incentives / bonus in their contracts for postseason play etc....getting to the Finals 20 consecutive times would be better.

[tanibanana]

This thread perfectly sums up who is the greater player. Elgin Baylor or Paul Pierce.
Your answer depends on who is the greater player is.

[Baller789]

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Only low IQ Brantards would say otherwise.

[999Guy]

These are just retarded discussions. The whole concept is just born in a dumb place.

[ELITEpower23]

Not all rings are created equal; nor are Finals losses.

Butler's Finals loss in 2020 > Kobe's 2000 Ring

Checkmate

[kawhileonard2]

The Buffalo Bills are not proud of making 4 straight Super Bowls.

This!

Rather be Tampa Bay before Brady came in 2020-2021. Or Florida Marlins

[iamgine]

Rather have one chip but 20 runner ups are way harder accomplishment.

[SATAN]

Rather have one chip but 20 runner ups are way harder accomplishment.

I agree with you that making it to the finals 10 times is harder than making it to the finals 6 times. Almost doubled.

[Spurs m8]

I reckon 20 runner ups...including the 2 biggest finals beatings of all time as well as some sweeps.

Also handing your direct opponent fmvp = good and legacy boost...bonus points for handing young and old role players fmvp

[000]

Yes. Scalabrine over Baylor.

[Baller789]

Not all rings are created equal; nor are Finals losses.

Butler's Finals loss in 2020 > Kobe's 2000 Ring

Checkmate

:yaohappy::yaohappy::yaohappy:

[Kblaze8855]

Rather have one chip but 20 runner ups are way harder accomplishment.

Thats the weird thing. You would have more personal satisfaction but almost certainly be playing consistently worse basketball to get knocked out earlier all those times vs someone who wins at least 3 rounds his entire career.

[Bronbron23]

The 90s was NOT as physical or tough as MJ stans and casuals make it out to be. Or some old players for that matter.

I agree. It was tougher than this era though. How much more? The answer usually lies somewhere in the middle. Not as tough as mj stans say and not as primitive as bron stans say.

[TheCorporation]

Not all rings are created equal; nor are Finals losses.

Butler's Finals loss in 2020 > Kobe's 2000 Ring

Checkmate

100% and only a retard wouldn't get this.

Otherwise Bill Russell is your Goat and this conversation is over for you.

[Bronbron23]

Rather have one chip but 20 runner ups are way harder accomplishment.

Well that depends honestly. Getting to the finals in an significantly easier conference isn't necessarily harder than playing in the much tougher conference and not doing that but still doing well qnd also winning a chip.

[Bronbron23]

Not all rings are created equal; nor are Finals losses.

Butler's Finals loss in 2020 > Kobe's 2000 Ring

Checkmate

Not all runner ups are created equal either. This goes both ways. Making it to the finals in the easier conference isn't as impressive as making it to the finals in the stronger conference.

Bron only beat a team from the harder conference 3 times in his career. If he was in the western conference that whole time he'd be 4/4 in the finals instead of 4/10. He'd also have more first and second round loses because he'd be in the harder conference and lose more regular season games and be a higher seed.

[Legend248]

Not all rings are created equal; nor are Finals losses.

Butler's Finals loss in 2020 > Kobe's 2000 Ring

Checkmate

ok peasant who brought up kobe in here? We all know kobe is superior to Lebum but you dont need to keep bringing him up.....now go away peasant

[Baller789]

Not all rings are created equal; nor are Finals losses.

Butler's Finals loss in 2020 > Kobe's 2000 Ring

Checkmate


Not all runner ups are created equal either. This goes both ways. Making it to the finals in the easier conference isn't as impressive as making it to the finals in the stronger conference.

Bron only beat a team from the harder conference 3 times in his career. If he was in the western conference that whole time he'd be 4/4 in the finals instead of 4/10. He'd also have more first and second round loses because he'd be in the harder conference and lose more regular season games and be a higher seed.

He probably doesn't even realize he shot himself in the foot by using that not all Finals loses are equal argument.

Lebron's runner ups are even weaker because he played most of career in a piss poor conference.

NoPower23 is probably in gradeschool.

[Bronbron23]

He probably doesn't even realize he shot himself in the foot by using that not all Finals loses are equal argument.

Lebron's runner ups are even weaker because he played most of career in a piss poor conference.

NoPower23 is probably in gradeschool.

Yeah these bron stains see what they wanna see. There unawareness is amazing

[Spurs m8]

Not all rings are created equal; nor are Finals losses.

Butler's Finals loss in 2020 > Kobe's 2000 Ring

Checkmate

Butlers 2020 finals wasn't even a real finals...you deadshit

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

[Baller789]

This is like asking a woman if should she would rather be the bridesmaid 20x or the bride once.