View Full Version : Do the blazers win it all in 2000 with 35 year old mj instead of pip?
Bronbron23
12-02-2021, 11:57 PM
Pip was a solid role player at 35 but he was a shell of his prime self. Mj on the other hand was declining but still a mvp, first team defense and scoring champ at 35. Would this be enough to put Portland past the lakers or would lakers still be too much?
GrayGoat
12-02-2021, 11:58 PM
No
Bawkish
12-02-2021, 11:59 PM
inb4 some Piptard come swinging with mental gymnastics about his idol
kawhileonard2
12-03-2021, 12:02 AM
MJ at 35 won league mvp, finals mvp and scoring title while Pippen was averaging 15 ppg in the WCF on 43% FG and was the 3rd leading scorer on the squad.
warriorfan
12-03-2021, 12:02 AM
Easily
Full Court
12-03-2021, 12:03 AM
Blazers would have had a good chance. As much as the Labronathites try to rewrite history (Pippen really was a great player though), Jordan was significantly better than Pippen.
GrayGoat
12-03-2021, 12:04 AM
No Pip no chip. No Phil no chip. These are the facts
kawhileonard2
12-03-2021, 12:06 AM
No Pip no chip. No Phil no chip. These are the facts
Lebron doesn't switch teams no chip (had to leave original team), Lebron with peak Duncan no chip (bronze medal). Lebron with Shaq no chip (lost in round 2). These are the facts.
GrayGoat
12-03-2021, 12:08 AM
Lebron doesn't switch teams no chip (had to leave original team), Lebron with peak Duncan no chip (bronze medal). Lebron with Shaq no chip (lost in round 2). These are the facts.
This is a thread about MJ
kawhileonard2
12-03-2021, 12:09 AM
This is a thread about MJ
Lebron doesn't switch teams no chip (had to leave original team), Lebron with peak Duncan no chip (bronze medal). Lebron with Shaq no chip (lost in round 2). These are the facts.
Answer them each one
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT
Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher
Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2
Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED
Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3
GrayGoat
12-03-2021, 12:22 AM
LeBron :)
kawhileonard2
12-03-2021, 12:33 AM
LeBron :)
Lebron doesn't switch teams no chip (had to leave original team), Lebron with peak Duncan no chip (bronze medal). Lebron with Shaq no chip (lost in round 2). These are the facts.
Answer them each one
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT
Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher
Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2
Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED
Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3
:))
Jordan
Don't duck! Answer each one!
TheCorporation
12-03-2021, 12:50 AM
MJ didnt have it in him to play more than 13 playoffs.
#WeakEra
SATAN
12-03-2021, 12:57 AM
LeBron James.
TeflonDonTrump
12-03-2021, 01:05 AM
There was no alpha male on that blazer's team. with MJ, easily 5 peat.
theman93
12-03-2021, 01:05 AM
Lebron doesn't switch teams no chip (had to leave original team), Lebron with peak Duncan no chip (bronze medal). Lebron with Shaq no chip (lost in round 2). These are the facts.
Answer them each one
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT
Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher
Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2
Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED
Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3
So he had to flip teams in order to win a chip?
No flip no chip :roll: :roll:
97 bulls
12-03-2021, 01:14 AM
Yes they do
Baller789
12-03-2021, 01:17 AM
So he had to flip teams in order to win a chip?
No flip no chip :roll: :roll:
:roll:
Nah. Basketball is not just about talent. Team success is also affected by chemistry and fit, and MJ's style would have clashed greatly with that group of Blazers. While the Blazers players had not fully received the "Jail Blazers" reputation yet, I could actually see Rasheed and Bonzi fighting a 37 year old MJ who would be trying to impose his "tough nosed" type of leadership on them. Plus, that team's offense was based on balanced scoring. MJ's approach to scoring would probably not have gelled with some of the players possible forcing somebody to get traded mid season.
Edit: Just read the title... You said 35 year old MJ and not 37 year old. Some of the stuff that I mentioned still remains the same, but I do believe that 35 year old MJ may have been good enough to overcome those chemistry issues.
2much_knowledge
12-03-2021, 01:49 AM
DUH
Next question
Bawkish
12-03-2021, 02:01 AM
Nah. Basketball is not just about talent. Team success is also affected by chemistry and fit, and MJ's style would have clashed greatly with that group of Blazers. While the Blazers players had not fully received the "Jail Blazers" reputation yet, I could actually see Rasheed and Bonzi fighting a 37 year old MJ who would be trying to impose his "tough nosed" type of leadership on them. Plus, that team's offense was based on balanced scoring. MJ's approach to scoring would probably not have gelled with some of the players possible forcing somebody to get traded mid season.
You forgot that MJ's style is not ball dominant that would disrupt the team chemistry. He played with a system (Triangle) that is well known for it's balanced offensive sets. Him winning every scoring title every is just icing on the cake. Plus MJ is well accustomed to big egos (Rodman) and i highly doubt someone like Sheed & Bonzi would dare to ruffle feathers with MJ,
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