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AirBonner
12-04-2021, 01:35 PM
“But he didn’t do it himself”

“Mo Williams”

“Boobie Gibson”

LeBron could t win by himself lolol

Johnny32
12-04-2021, 01:40 PM
exactly. lebron is the only player in nba history who isn't allowed to have teammates. what's funny is his opponents have had better teammates in every finals besides 11 and 20.

ELITEpower23
12-04-2021, 01:43 PM
exactly. lebron is the only player in nba history who isn't allowed to have teammates. what's funny is his opponents have had better teammates in every finals besides 11 and 20.

Bingo

2much_knowledge
12-04-2021, 02:17 PM
Cry away!!! Gotta get out of this thread before i drown

3ba11
12-04-2021, 02:36 PM
Lebron's unique style of frontcourt ball-dominance reduces teammates more than anyone in history - no one has such a long record of players becoming bums next to him.

Ball-dominators have always made teammates stand in the corner but for a big man to do that?.. It kills team ceiling/Finals record... 2/10 (2 teammate bailouts)

Johnny32
12-04-2021, 02:42 PM
Lebron's unique style of frontcourt ball-dominance reduces teammates more than anyone in history - no one has such a long record of players becoming bums next to him.

Ball-dominators have always made teammates stand in the corner but for a big man to do that?.. It kills team ceiling/Finals record... 2/10 (2 teammate bailouts)

fun fact: bosh and love both had their most efficient scoring season playing with lebron.

3ba11
12-04-2021, 02:44 PM
fun fact: bosh and love both had their most efficient scoring season playing with lebron.


Play-finishers are always more efficient than play-makers, but play-finishing is a lower role and lower production

The more important thing is raw production.. For example, the 14' Heat shot better against the Spurs than any other Spurs' opponent in those Playoffs, yet still lost by the most because they were last in PPG among Spurs' opponents

Johnny32
12-04-2021, 02:57 PM
Play-finishers are always more efficient than play-makers, but play-finishing is a lower role and lower production

The more important thing is raw production.. For example, the 14' Heat shot better against the Spurs than any other Spurs' opponent in those Playoffs, yet still lost by the most because they were last in PPG among Spurs' opponents

are you suggesting love/bosh should have remained first options while playing with lebron/wade/kyrie? no shit they're going to have reduced roles. they went from never winning a playoff series to nba champions in that role.

3ba11
12-04-2021, 03:03 PM
are you suggesting love/bosh should have remained first options while playing with lebron/wade/kyrie? no shit they're going to have reduced roles. they went from never winning a playoff series to nba champions in that role.


Plenty of 3rd options still average 20 or dominate when needed like Klay, Manu, Jrue Holiday, Ray Allen, Harden (when kyrie was healthy), and many more like Worthy or Parish

These guys didn't become bummy, role players like Bosh/Love

Only Lebron's unique frontcourt ball-dominance reduces teammates like that

ELITEpower23
12-04-2021, 03:04 PM
Plenty of 3rd options still average 20 or dominate when needed like Klay, Manu, Jrue Holiday, Ray Allen, Harden (when kyrie was healthy), and many more like Worthy or Parish

These guys didn't become bummy, role players like Bosh/Love

Only Lebron's unique frontcourt ball-dominance reduces teammates like that

So does LeBron reduce his teammates or elevate them because I could've sworn you were sucking off 2012 Wade, 2016 Kyrie, and 2020 Davis about a thread ago?

3ba11
12-04-2021, 03:07 PM
So does LeBron reduce his teammates or elevate them because I could've sworn you were sucking off 2012 Wade, 2016 Kyrie, and 2020 Davis about a thread ago?


Those guys were stars before Lebron

Otoh, Lebron failed to elevate young studs like Ingram, Hughes THT, Kuzma and many more "pippens"

Johnny32
12-04-2021, 03:08 PM
So does LeBron reduce his teammates or elevate them because I could've sworn you were sucking off 2012 Wade, 2016 Kyrie, and 2020 Davis about a thread ago?

lol was about to point this out lol wtf.

Johnny32
12-04-2021, 03:10 PM
Your data shows Lebron's sidekicks outscoring opposing #1 options and league MVP's, while Pippen tied the opposing 2nd option with worse efficiency (16-22 ppg).

And Lebron had a 2 pippen's (big 3), so his 3rd option was always far superior and outplayed the league MVP in the 11' ECF... Only Lebron has 3rd options that destroy the league MVP - it's the most help EVER

dude typed that in a different topic an hour ago lol.

ELITEpower23
12-04-2021, 03:11 PM
Those guys were stars before Lebron

Otoh, Lebron failed to elevate young studs like Ingram, Hughes THT, Kuzma and many more "pippens"

:oldlol:

https://i.postimg.cc/gJ2DCPRK/3clown.png

So when the players play well it's because they should have, but when they don't play well it's LeBron's fault. Got it :oldlol: Carry on loon

ELITEpower23
12-04-2021, 03:12 PM
Your data shows Lebron's sidekicks outscoring opposing #1 options and league MVP's, while Pippen tied the opposing 2nd option with worse efficiency (16-22 ppg).

And Lebron had a 2 pippen's (big 3), so his 3rd option was always far superior and outplayed the league MVP in the 11' ECF... Only Lebron has 3rd options that destroy the league MVP - it's the most help EVER

dude typed that in a different topic an hour ago lol.

3clown is his new name :oldlol:

3clown is a copy pasting, top 12 loving (Kobe) lunatic

GrayGoat
12-04-2021, 03:18 PM
3clown is his new name :oldlol:

3clown is a copy pasting, top 12 loving (Kobe) lunatic
What’s crazy is he purposely brings MJ down in a roundabout way to sneak Kobe’s name in conversation once in a while

Cyrus334
12-04-2021, 05:27 PM
Lebron never has enough help despite stacking his team with more talent then almost anyone else in NBA history.

Vino24
12-04-2021, 06:10 PM
Lebron never has enough help despite stacking his team with more talent then almost anyone else in NBA history.

Rondo, Dwight Howard, Monk. Stacked!

Cyrus334
12-04-2021, 06:22 PM
Rondo, Dwight Howard, Monk. Stacked!

Proving my point. :cheers:

Baller789
12-04-2021, 06:26 PM
No flip...

TheCorporation
12-04-2021, 08:54 PM
:oldlol:

https://i.postimg.cc/gJ2DCPRK/3clown.png

So when the players play well it's because they should have, but when they don't play well it's LeBron's fault. Got it :oldlol: Carry on loon

3clown :roll:

kawhileonard2
12-04-2021, 10:07 PM
“But he didn’t do it himself”

“Mo Williams”

“Boobie Gibson”

LeBron could t win by himself lolol

then why leave when you play with guys who won titles as the man in Ben Wallace and Shaq?