Jazz at Cavs

[Xiao Yao You]

Whiteside and Udoka out. What will the Jazz do without their two best bigs? :roll:

[Xiao Yao You]

Bojan covering Allen early. Poor Manny

[Manny98]

Allen going to work already :bowdown:

Wow 2 HUGE blocks in the first couple of minutes

[Xiao Yao You]

Poor Allen. Getting Gobert switched on to him :lol

[Manny98]

Mitchell and Garland trading blows, good game so far

[zeerghit]

Poor Allen. Getting Gobert switched on to him :lol

gobert is scorless in first 8 minutes..

[Xiao Yao You]

See if they can survive without Gobert on the floor. Same old story

[Xiao Yao You]

short rest for Rudy. Big minutes tonite unfortunately for the Cavs

[Xiao Yao You]

Ricky :roll:

[Xiao Yao You]

God he sucks

[Manny98]

Rudy scoreless so far, Mitchell carrying the offense per usual

Great defense by Allen

[Xiao Yao You]

Rudy scoreless so far, Mitchell carrying the offense per usual

Great defense by Allen

Great D only gave up 32 :lol

[Xiao Yao You]

as bad as Ricky is Clarkson is the worst :cry:

[zeerghit]

gobert defence:lol wide open threes for everybody

[Xiao Yao You]

gobert defence:lol wide open threes for everybody

Rudy supposed to guard everyone :oldlol:

[zeerghit]

Rudy supposed to guard everyone :oldlol:

dude is not rotating just standing under basket and gets benched for this garbage play

[Xiao Yao You]

even though it was goaltending it's great to have someone that can at least give some rim protection finally when Gobert is guarding the perimeter

[zeerghit]

even though it was goaltending it's great to have someone that can at least give some rim protection finally when Gobert is guarding the perimeter

:roll:

[Xiao Yao You]

Rudy supposed to guard everyone :oldlol:

it's called a game plan. Let Okoro and others shoot so Gobert can help on others. Not too familiar with the Jazz apparently

[zeerghit]

it's called a game plan. Let Okoro and others shoot so Gobert can help on others. Not too familiar with the Jazz apparently

Okoro? Love took 2 wide open threes couse gobert didint rotate

[Xiao Yao You]

:roll:


Numbers and film keep proving the point: Gobert is more than capable (https://twitter.com/kirkgoldsberry/status/1465347968333225989) as a 1-on-1 defender all over the court now. He’s Utah’s best defender on isolations (https://www.nba.com/stats/players/isolation/?SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TypeGrouping=defensive&CF=TEAM_ABBREVIATION*E*uta&sort=PPP&dir=-1) this season, and that’s just based on imperfect play type tracking that only looks at outcomes and therefore doesn’t capture the myriad U-turns or pass-outs that Gobert’s enveloping defense tends to inspire.

:facepalm

[zeerghit]

Okoro shots 22% from 3. That is the shot the Jazz want the Cavs taking. :facepalm

dude u really are smth... Okoro?? fuc*ing Love took 2 wide open threes couse gobert didint rotate

[Xiao Yao You]

dude u really are smth... Okoro?? fuc*ing Love took 2 wide open threes couse gobert didint rotate

Love is 35% from 3. Let him have it

[Xiao Yao You]

Allen stuffed again. Poor Manny! :D

[Proctor]

If Gobert had Allen's offensive skill and determination, Jazz would be unbeatable.

Clarkson and Gobert have sucked.

[zeerghit]

Love is 35% from 3. Let him have it

What else curry is 41% let him have it too maybe?

[Xiao Yao You]

If Gobert had Allen's offensive skill and determination, Jazz would be unbeatable.

Clarkson and Gobert have sucked.

8 boards 2 offensive 2 assists and 3 blocks sucks. Poor trolls :lol

[Xiao Yao You]

What else curry is 41% let him have it too maybe?

got to pick your poison. 35% sucks in today's game

[zeerghit]

got to pick your poison. 35% sucks in today's game

its Love hes capable to hit 50%

[Proctor]

got to pick your poison. 35% sucks in today's game
As does having zero offensive talent as a center like Rudy. Great defensively in low pressure games

[Proctor]

Allen beating up on Gobert again and scoring on him. Where's the D

[Xiao Yao You]

As does having zero offensive talent as a center like Rudy. Great defensively in low pressure games

the foundation of the best offense in the league. Great defensively all the time

[Xiao Yao You]

its Love hes capable to hit 50%

if he gets hot you change the game plan

[Xiao Yao You]

Allen beating up on Gobert again and scoring on him. Where's the D

2 blocks on him :facepalm

[Proctor]

2 blocks on him :facepalm
Allen 13 pts. Gobert 0. Not a very good foundation

[zeerghit]

if he gets hot you change the game plan

you really make no sense..

[Xiao Yao You]

you really make no sense..

You can't stop everything. You make choices. Leave a 35% shooter open or leave a better shooter open. Not complicated :facepalm

[Xiao Yao You]

Allen 13 pts. Gobert 0. Not a very good foundation

Jazz up 5 on the road against a supposedly good team. Poor trolls :roll:

[Proctor]

Jazz up 5 on the road against a supposedly good team. Poor trolls :roll:
Mitchell and Bojan to the rescue. Gobert and Clarkson non-factors

[Xiao Yao You]

The D was better in the 2nd. Clarkson killing them as usual. Love 1-4 from 3

[zeerghit]

You can't stop everything. You make choices. Leave a 35% shooter open or leave a better shooter open. Not complicated :facepalm

this is why this clown always exposed in playoffs couse u know you cant stop everything, lets leave wide open Kevin Love..

[Manny98]

Allen stuffed again. Poor Manny! :D
Toody with zero points at the half :roll: :roll::roll:

Meanwhile on the other end Allen and Mobley are taking turns bullying him

[Xiao Yao You]

Mitchell and Bojan to the rescue. Gobert and Clarkson non-factors

10 boards 2 offensive 2 assists 3 blocks and a non factor. Poor trolls :oldlol:

[Xiao Yao You]

this is why this clown always exposed in playoffs couse u know you cant stop everything, lets leave wide open Kevin Love..

1-4. Made the right choice. Exposed in the playoffs because he can't do it all by himself just like every player in history

[zeerghit]

1-4. Made the right choice. Exposed in the playoffs because he can't do it all by himself just like every player in history

it could be 4-4... its not like hes bad shooter u do not gamble with this kinda shooters, wtf is wrong with you..

[Proctor]

10 boards 2 offensive 2 assists 3 blocks and a non factor. Poor trolls :oldlol:
0 points for the foundation of the offense

Not better than his matchup and rarely is

Allen is getting the best of him and so is 20 year old Mobley

[Xiao Yao You]

it could be 4-4... its not like hes bad shooter u do not gamble with this kinda shooters, wtf is wrong with you..

it could be but they rolled the dice on a 35 % shooter and are up 5 on the road. I didn't make the game plan but it's working so far

[Xiao Yao You]

0 points for the foundation of the offense

Not better than his matchup and rarely is

Allen is getting the best of him and so is 20 year old Mobley

An all NBAer DPOTY is rarely better than his matchup!

He hasn't been guarding either of those guys. Try watching a game for a change troll! :facepalm

[Manny98]

An all NBAer DPOTY is rarely better than his matchup!

He hasn't been guarding either of those guys. Try watching a game for a change troll! :facepalm
He's guarding the rim and Mobley and Allen have been feasting !

Allen literally snatched the ball of him like a baby as I was typing this :oldlol:

[Proctor]

Jeez, Mobley over Gobert again with the hook

Mitchell dominating

[Proctor]

Gobert giving up another bucket to the 20 year old and then turning it over on the other end

[Xiao Yao You]

Gobert giving up another bucket to the 20 year old and then turning it over on the other end

as he leads the Jazz over the Cavs by 10 on the road

[Proctor]

as he leads the Jazz over the Cavs by 10 on the road
7 guys with more points. Mitchell dominating with 26. Gobert a whopping 4

As I type this Allen just dunked all over Rudy. Where's the D

[Manny98]

Allen dunking on Rudy... Again :lol

[Xiao Yao You]

7 guys with more points. Mitchell dominating with 26. Gobert a whopping 4

As I type this Allen just dunked all over Rudy. Where's the D

15 boards 4 offensive 2 assists a steal 3 blocks and a 7 point lead on the road :bowdown:

[Proctor]

Rudy Gay :bowdown:

[Proctor]

Gobert comes in and Cavs go on a run :facepalm

[Manny98]

Wooooooo! :roll::roll:

[zeerghit]

Osman doing everything

[Xiao Yao You]

Poor Manny jumping on the bandwagon :roll:

[Proctor]

All happened when Gobert came back in

[Xiao Yao You]

All happened when Gobert came back in

but no mention of +/- for a long time since Whiteside has sucked. At least be consistent troll

[zeerghit]

flop

[Bronbron23]

Cavs getting easier looks

[Xiao Yao You]

pass the ball Mitchell :facepalm

[Proctor]

Mitchell solidifying himself as an MVP candidate. If not for him this game would have been over after a quarter

[Manny98]

Mitchell single handedly winning this for the Jazz

[Xiao Yao You]

Mitchell solidifying himself as an MVP candidate. If not for him this game would have been over after a quarter

try being MVP of the team first :roll:

[Xiao Yao You]

Gobert doing it all. Give him some help

[Xiao Yao You]

Ricky with the bricks. His specialty

[Xiao Yao You]

No answer for Rudy. Another 20 boards :rockon:

[Manny98]

Gobert doing it all. Give him some help
Stop trolling, Mitchell has almost 40

[Xiao Yao You]

Stop trolling, Mitchell has almost 40

He stopped the Cavs several times on one possession and not one got the ball

[Xiao Yao You]

clutch block yet again

[zeerghit]

great game, gobert actually playing good defence recently, surprise

[Xiao Yao You]

great game, gobert actually playing good defence recently, surprise

recently as in the past 7 years :lol

[zeerghit]

good game

[Proctor]

Great game. Mitchell too much. Conley clutch. Garland was something else

[zeerghit]

recently as in the past 7 years :lol

he was average at best in first 46 minutes

[Xiao Yao You]

They escape. Whiteside being out and Gobert playing big minutes the difference

[Xiao Yao You]

he was average at best in first 46 minutes

sure :lol

[Xiao Yao You]

yet another awful game from Clarkson. Mitchell 7 TO's. Gobert carries them with 20 boards 5 offensive 3 assists a steal and 5 blocks.

[Xiao Yao You]

the trolls went silent for some reason :lol

[Xiao Yao You]

Gobert 5-1 against the great Jarrett Allen :oldlol:

[zeerghit]

the trolls went silent for some reason :lol
the irony

[Xiao Yao You]

Andy Larsen: Jazz ESCAPE with a win, 109-108. Good defense on the final possession, Conley defending Garland extremely well (https://*********.com/social/). Gobert just an absolute monster late. Wow, wow, wow moments. Mitchell a very good game until the final two minutes, but still: 35 points on just 21 shots. MIN weds

– via Twitter andyblarsen (https://twitter.com/andyblarsen)



a monster getting outplayed by every big in the league! :oldlol:

[Axe]

Op is an inadvertent troll who attracts fellow trolls by making game threads of his fave hero each time.

[Manny98]

Gobert 5-1 against the great Jarrett Allen :oldlol:

Allen outplayed him though Jazz were the better team

[Manny98]

yet another awful game from Clarkson. Mitchell 7 TO's. Gobert carries them with 20 boards 5 offensive 3 assists a steal and 5 blocks.
Mitchell with 35 and taking over down the stretch > Goberts uncontested rebounds

[Xiao Yao You]

Mitchell with 35 and taking over down the stretch > Goberts uncontested rebounds

Cavs are the biggest team in the league and Gobert gets 20 uncontested boards. Poor Manny :roll:

[RRR3]

Tough night for the troll. Mitchell with 35 and clutch.

[Manny98]

Cavs are the biggest team in the league and Gobert gets 20 uncontested boards. Poor Manny :roll:
The majority of his rebounds were uncontested defensive rebounds after a missed shot

20 rebounds is nothing to scream about especially compared to Mitchell's 35 point performance

[Xiao Yao You]

The majority of his rebounds were uncontested defensive rebounds after a missed shot

20 rebounds is nothing to scream about especially compared to Mitchell's 35 point performance

you mean besides his 5 offensive boards? Is there any other kind of rebound besides after a missed shot? Don't remember too many uncontested ones if any either way. 20 boards is 20 boards. Mitchell gets wide open looks thanks to Gobert. Poor Manny is desperate to spin this somehow and he just can't do it as usual :oldlol:

[RRR3]

Poor xiao. Mitchell with another MVP performance.

[Xiao Yao You]

Rudy Gobert is a great rebounder — he finished with 20 boards in what Snyder called a "dominant" performance (without him, the last possession would have been meaningless; the Cavs would have already won) — but Bojan Bogdanovic, Royce O'Neale, Mitchell and Conley aren't the tallest NBA players. Advantage: Cleveland.



dominant yet uncontested performance! :facepalm

[Manny98]

you mean besides his 5 offensive boards? Is there any other kind of rebound besides after a missed shot? Don't remember too many uncontested ones if any either way. 20 boards is 20 boards. Mitchell gets wide open looks thanks to Gobert. Poor Manny is desperate to spin this somehow and he just can't do it as usual :oldlol:
I said the majority were uncontested not all of them
Are you really trying to say Goberts 20 rebounds was the reason why they won the game over Mitchell's 35 points and 4th quarter takeover?

Your head is so far up Goberts ass you don't see how stupid you sound sometimes :facepalm

Give Mitchell some credit for once in your pathetic life

[RRR3]

I said the majority were uncontested not all of them
Are you really trying to say Goberts 20 rebounds was the reason why they won the game over Mitchell's 35 points and 4th quarter takeover?

Your head is so far up Goberts ass you don't see how stupid you sound sometimes :facepalm

Give Mitchell some credit for once in your pathetic life
He’s a troll he has no interest in an actual discussion. If you own him enough with facts he just ignores you. He always does it to Kblaze and now doing it with me :lol. poor troll :(

[jayfan]

Good game. Terrible thread.



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[Xiao Yao You]

I said the majority were uncontested not all of them
Are you really trying to say Goberts 20 rebounds was the reason why they won the game over Mitchell's 35 points and 4th quarter takeover?

Your head is so far up Goberts ass you don't see how stupid you sound sometimes :facepalm

Give Mitchell some credit for once in your pathetic life

This coming from the troll who think all of Gobert's opponents and backups are better than him

[Xiao Yao You]

Good game. Terrible thread.



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****in' trolls :facepalm

[AirBonner]

Mitchell bails the fvck out of Toody again

[Xiao Yao You]

https://kslsports.com/474235/jazz-outlast-cavaliers-despite-blowing-late-15-point-lead/


The Jazz blew a 15 point fourth quarter lead, but the play of Rudy Gobert down the stretch allowed the team to hold on late.



Thanks Donovan?


Cleveland has done a nice job erasing Rudy Gobert as a scorer, and he had just four points on 2-5 shooting, but it’s come at the cost of Mitchell, Royce O’Neale, and Bojan Bogdanovic all being in double-figures.



roll gravity


The Cavaliers continued to keep the game close, but Gobert was the best player on the floor to close the game on both sides of the floor, playing defense, and grabbing offensive rebounds.



thanks Mitchell? :roll:

[Xiao Yao You]

Mitchell bails the fvck out of Toody again

apparently only trolls see it that way

[Xiao Yao You]

https://kslsports.com/474258/rudy-gobert-makes-clutch-plays-late-to-help-jazz-beat-cavs/


SALT LAKE CITY – Jazz center Rudy Gobert made a series of clutch plays on both ends of the court to help Utah beat the Cleveland Cavaliers.


With 1:42 left in the fourth quarter, Gobert spun off the defense of Cavs center Jarrett Allen before driving towards the hoop. Gobert rose up towards the hoop and slammed a thunderous slam dunk down through the cylinder with his left hand.


The jam ended up being the game-winning bucket and gave the Jazz a one-point lead, 109-108.


�� @rudygobert27 (https://twitter.com/rudygobert27?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) �� pic.twitter.com/6syN5VvGlV
(https://t.co/6syN5VvGlV)
— Utah Jazz (@utahjazz) December 5, 2021

(https://twitter.com/utahjazz/status/1467625540416802818?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

Gobert had two blocks during the final 3:29 of the game, including a big block on a potential go-ahead layup attempt by Cleveland’s Darius Garland with 48.0 seconds left.


Rudy Gobert is a freeeeeaaaaak.


— Ben Anderson (@BensHoops) December 5, 2021 (https://twitter.com/BensHoops/status/1467624574506319873?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)


Gobert finished the game with six points, 20 rebounds, three assists, one steal, and five blocks in 38 minutes of action.



:cheers:

[Xiao Yao You]

https://www.deseret.com/2021/12/5/22785381/mike-conley-defense-against-darius-garland-sealed-jazz-victory-over-the-cavaliers-cavs


It all came down to one final defensive possession for the Jazz and in the end it was Mike Conley who was able to contain Darius Garland in the final seconds that sealed the 109-108 victory for the Utah.



thanks Mitchell?


“Just one stop, do whatever needs to be done to get one stop,” Donovan Mitchell said. “Just be solid and rebound.”



Donovan talking about playing D :roll:


Garland missed the shot and then it was just a matter of keeping the Cavaliers off the boards. Rudy Gobert and Royce O’Neale made sure to fight to keep Cleveland from getting a legitimate put back, and the Jazz won the game.



thanks Donovan? :facepalm

[Proctor]

Mitchell making his MVP case. Can't wait to see the next Jazz game

[Xiao Yao You]

https://www.deseret.com/2021/12/5/22817871/instant-analysis-jazz-lock-down-cavs-on-final-possession-to-get-a-win-on-the-road


Rudy Gobert only finished with six points, but to say that he was impactful would be an understatement. He was without a doubt the most influential Jazz player on Sunday. Even the impressive statline of 20 rebounds and five blocks doesn’t begin to explain it. He was everywhere and was such a leader on the defensive end. There were plays where he guarded four people in one possession, sliding and recovering and calling out rotations. Unreal stuff from Gobert.

“He was dominant. I thought there was a few times he went up strong and I’d like to see him get to the line more... But he’s such a presence defensively.” — Jazz head coach Quin Snyder

The Cavs had the ball in the final possession of the game, with a chance to win it, and the Jazz had one of their best defensive efforts of the night through those final seconds. Specifically, Mike Conley’s defense on Darius Garland, was impeccable. It was a game-winning defensive showing from Conley.



thanks Donovan? :oldlol:

[Manny98]

This coming from the troll who think all of Gobert's opponents and backups are better than him
No I noted how Whiteside had a better on court rating than Gobert, the exact same stat you used to make a case of why Goberts the best center in the NBA last season, stop putting words in my mouth troll

[Xiao Yao You]

https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/12/5/22819151/utah-jazz-win-a-thriller-in-cleveland-against-the-cavaliers-donovan-mitchell

Rudy Gobert on the defensive end entered God mode. He was deflecting lobs, blocking shots, and had an absolutely ferocious dunk on the other end that got the Jazz bench off their feet. The Jazz needed every bit of it with this being a close one.

pic.twitter.com/6syN5VvGlV (https://t.co/6syN5VvGlV)

poor Manny :D

[Xiao Yao You]

No I noted how Whiteside had a better on court rating than Gobert, the exact same stat you used to make a case of why Goberts the best center in the NBA last season, stop putting words in my mouth troll

I'm not. Favors was supposedly better than him last year. He's supposedly been getting owned by every guy he's played against this year

[Manny98]

No one said Favours was better either

However Mitchell has been Utah's best player in the playoffs these past two seasons and so far this season and that makes your blood boil inside :oldlol:

[Xiao Yao You]

No one said Favours was better either

However Mitchell has been Utah's best player in the playoffs these past two seasons and so far this season and that makes your blood boil inside :oldlol:

yes Favors was said to be better :roll:

If Mitchell played any D or passed the ball you might be right but he doesn't

Funny how the media that was at the game and usually hype Mitchell think Gobert dominated this game while the trolls who didn't watch think it's all about Mitchell :oldlol:

[Xiao Yao You]

https://www.nba.com/jazz/news/defensive-stand-gives-utah-win-over-cleveland



Gobert finished with just six points but grabbed 20 rebounds, dished out three assists, and blocked five shots. His 20 rebounds were two less than Cleveland's starting centers Jarrett Allen and Evan Mobley had combined.


"He was dominant. … He's such a presence defensively," Utah head coach Quin Snyder said of Gobert. "There were a few times where he went up strong, and I'd like to see him get to the line more. He's finishing with a lot of explosiveness right now. … He had that one finish where he dunked it over the top of somebody."

| "We knew it was going to be a battle."#WalkoffInterview (https://twitter.com/hashtag/WalkoffInterview?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) | @lhmauto (https://twitter.com/lhmauto?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) pic.twitter.com/1TlHmDOFA1

(https://t.co/1TlHmDOFA1)

— Utah Jazz (@utahjazz) December 5, 2021 (https://twitter.com/utahjazz/status/1467629378905395202?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
But the numbers don't even begin to do justice just how dominant and disruptive he was on defense.


His ability to defend both players in the pick-and-roll and not allow Cleveland to feast in the paint was tremendous. Gobert was then able to defend on the perimeter while still protecting the rim, including a massive block of Garland with 48 seconds left to preserve the lead.


Despite being significantly undersized as a team, the Jazz held Cleveland to 45.7% (42-for-92) shooting from the floor.

[Manny98]

Again no one is saying Gobert sucks,I think he's easily the best defensive player in the league during the regular season these past few years.

just give Mitchell credit for once in your life and admit he's been Utah's best player in the playoffs these past two seasons :facepalm

[AirBonner]

The league set a bad precedent was set to usually just give dpoy to the big man who blocks a ton of shots. The media rarely gives it to the best defender in the NBA in terms of versatility, switch ability, guarding multiple positions, defensive iq, etc. Perimeter defenders who may not get high block totals because they defend at a high level mostly jump shots and taking guys out of rhythm is very underrated. If you’re the best wing/guard defender and you have a Dame, Steph, Harden, Booker, Durant, Kawhi, Luka, Tatum, etc. it’s a much harder task than being 7’1 getting weak side blocks rotating when 6’3 pg drives. He usually stays one foot outside the paint anyway on non threatening bigs. The moment he has to go against a small ball lineup or a big who can actually score or is versatile he gets baked.

[Manny98]

The league set a bad precedent was set to usually just give dpoy to the big man who blocks a ton of shots. The media rarely gives it to the best defender in the NBA in terms of versatility, switch ability, guarding multiple positions, defensive iq, etc. Perimeter defenders who may not get high block totals because they defend at a high level mostly jump shots and taking guys out of rhythm is very underrated. If you’re the best wing/guard defender and you have a Dame, Steph, Harden, Booker, Durant, Kawhi, Luka, Tatum, etc. it’s a much harder task than being 7’1 getting weak side blocks rotating when 6’3 pg drives. He usually stays one foot outside the paint anyway on non threatening bigs. The moment he has to go against a small ball lineup or a big who can actually score or is versatile he gets baked.

Yep, hence why I said Gobert is the best defensive player in the REGULAR SEASON, he has been a borderline liability on defense come playoff time


https://youtu.be/t4KI-lQphkE

[Xiao Yao You]

He can't guard all 5 guys by himself. That has been proven

[Xiao Yao You]

Marc J. Spears: The Pelicans have assigned third-year center Jaxson Hayes to G League Birmingham (https://*********.com/social/).

– via Twitter MarcJSpears (https://twitter.com/MarcJSpears)




after out playing Gobert :facepalm

[Manny98]

NBA Players of the Week for Week 7: Jazz’s Donovan Mitchell and Bulls’ DeMar DeRozan.

Well deserved, Mitchell has been playing at an MVP level as of late:rockon:

[AirBonner]

NBA Players of the Week for Week 7: Jazz’s Donovan Mitchell and Bulls’ DeMar DeRozan.

Well deserved, Mitchell has been playing at an MVP level as of late:rockon:

He logged off after this news lolol

[Xiao Yao You]

He logged off after this news lolol

some of us actually have lives away from ISH

[Manny98]

He logged off after this news lolol
:roll:

[Axe]

some of us actually have lives away from ISH
Doesn't stop you from posting game threads of your hero's team though like this one here.

[Xiao Yao You]

Doesn't stop you from posting game threads of your hero's team though like this one here.

yep Sunday afternoon in Zion. I had some time on my hands to feed the trolls

[Axe]

yep Sunday afternoon in Zion. I had some time on my hands to feed the trolls
Rofl that's cute