“I’ve lost for a long time here and I’m not trying to ****ing lose anymore.” - KAT

[Kblaze8855]

It’s pretty simple as that. Food don’t taste good, life don’t feel the same…I’m just tired of coming up here and saying a bunch of stuff, at the end of the day, because it never translates to the next game.”


He said he had to play better just before that for the record….but people are taking it to mean he’s sick of being there.

[warriorfan]

Of course he’s sick of playing there. Who wouldn’t be?

[Kblaze8855]

I’ve thought for a while now it would be great for a guy like him to let you off the hook with a trade demand if you’re the GM. You don’t tend to win with guys like him or Love as the franchise player(people who teammates said are upset when they don’t get their numbers even if they win). Why pay them 200 million to sulk and lose? Better to send them somewhere they can be happy, get some good youth back who hopefully has a good approach, and have an excuse to be bad for a while instead of getting questions about why you suck with a generational talent. Casual fans and stat lovers never understand that getting your team to have more points than the other requires a lot more than one guy being productive.

At some point you have to wonder what’s going on if talent comes and goes and you stay about the same. Talent doesn’t always make you the best franchise player. Some people need someone else to make the team who it is and let them just plug and play.

[expansionera]

I wonder what a trade package centered around Kat looks like and which teams are legitimate suitors. Warriors and Celtics could facilitate major trade packages, Pacers could but why send him to another perennial loser?

[Kblaze8855]

It really is crazy how talented he is. He might be the GOAT outside shooting big. He has more handles than he should at his size. He has moves in the midrange. Can face up…do more around the basket than you think. Pass a bit. Rebound. He has some guard moves attacking. He feeeeeels like an all timer talent wise. I’m sure some confident coach wants to fix him.

[RRR3]

It really is crazy how talented he is. He might be the GOAT outside shooting big. He has more handles than he should at his size. He has moves in the midrange. Can face up…do more around the basket than you think. Pass a bit. Rebound. He has some guard moves attacking. He feeeeeels like an all timer talent wise. I’m sure some confident coach wants to fix him.
His offense is tier one. He’s a rotten defender unfortunately. Just zero awareness.

[BigShotBob]

It really is crazy how talented he is. He might be the GOAT outside shooting big. He has more handles than he should at his size. He has moves in the midrange. Can face up…do more around the basket than you think. Pass a bit. Rebound. He has some guard moves attacking. He feeeeeels like an all timer talent wise. I’m sure some confident coach wants to fix him.

Why did you feel the need to exaggerate like that? Do you not remember Dirk crossing people over in 02' and 03? And pulling up over Kevin Garnett and Tim Duncan's faces? Who is Kat shooting over? Isiah Hartenstein and Jakob Poetl?

[Kblaze8855]

Shooting 40% from 3 for his career taking 5-8 a game the last few years? He’s up there. Dirk was an outside shooter the way people meant it when I was coming up but not the way people mean it now. Dirk took 2 threes a game in 2011. Never took 5 a game in any season.

Dirk is a better shooter than KAT he just wasn’t taking outside shots like that. Dirk was a gunner by the standards of those before him. By todays standards his selection was pretty conservative. Dirk is a midrange shooter with 3 point range. He didn’t lean on 3s.

[SouBeachTalents]

I remember a few years back legitimately thinking the Wolves could be the team of the future with a KAT/Butler/Wiggins core, crazy how quickly that deteriorated :lol

[BigShotBob]

Shooting 40% from 3 for his career taking 5-8 a game the last few years? He’s up there. Dirk was an outside shooter the way people meant it when I was coming up but not the way people mean it now. Dirk took 2 threes a game in 2011. Never took 5 a game in any season.

Dirk is a better shooter than KAT he just wasn’t taking outside shots like that. Dirk was a gunner by the standards of those before him. By todays standards his selection was pretty conservative. Dirk is a midrange shooter with 3 point range. He didn’t lean on 3s.

If you're talking about exclusively the 3 ball then that's not saying much of anything. High pick and roll, mostly uncontested open 3's shooting over switches or slow footed big men....

It's just a qualifier that to me doesn't mean much of anything because it's a product of a different era. Do you think he'd be shooting 40% from 3 in 1991?

[Kblaze8855]

He might be shooting even better. Nobody closed out on 7 footers at 25 feet in 1991.


https://youtu.be/r-PTvmKn60M

He’s shooting stepback and hitting contested shots with a hard closeout from people used to defending the 3.

He’d be such an outlier 30-40 years ago. Teams would be be able to adjust but wouldn’t initially want to.

Tree Rollins, Mark Eaton, and all those traditional “Bring the guard to me” bigs wouldn’t always even step out to 15-18 feet. You think they want to go to 25? In the era of man-to-man defense?

Plenty of people would look at even a guard lining up a three and flatly refused to close out because they didn’t think it was a good shot. Some of the D I’ve seen on shooters back then might as well be called the “Shoot it you stupid bitch” system.

Dropped into the league as a fully formed current player? He would have people changing their whole approach.

[imdaman99]

He's a great offensive player but an absolute sieve on defense. Can't build around big men like that. Jokic is even a better defender than him, plus he makes everyone on his team better.

[BigShotBob]

He might be shooting even better. Nobody closed out on 7 footers at 25 feet in 1991.


https://youtu.be/r-PTvmKn60M

He’s shooting stepback and hitting contested shots with a hard closeout from people used to defending the 3.

He’d be such an outlier 30-40 years ago. Teams would be be able to adjust but wouldn’t initially want to.

Tree Rollins, Mark Eaton, and all those traditional “Bring the guard to me” bigs wouldn’t always even step out to 15-18 feet. You think they want to go to 25? In the era of man-to-man defense?

Plenty of people would look at even a guard lining up a three and flatly refused to close out because they didn’t think it was a good shot. Some of the D I’ve seen on shooters back then might as well be called the “Shoot it you stupid bitch” system.

Dropped into the league as a fully formed current player? He would have people changing their whole approach.

He's not a dominant or explosive enough scorer to force teams to adjust to his three point shooting in any era.

Most teams would rather live and die by Kat bailing the defense out and shooting threes. I'd force him to shoot 5+ a game and live with the results. The spacing in this era helps him out mightily as well. Drop him on the Knicks and let's see how much space he gets free from 3 with Charles Oakley and John Starks and X-Man.

[Kblaze8855]

Most teams would rather live and die by Kat bailing the defense out and shooting threes. I'd force him to shoot 5+ a game and live with the results.


Which is exactly why he might shoot even better. They would just let him shoot…for a while at least.

[eliteballer]

Give Anthony Edwards a year or two to develop and they'll be good.

[FireDavidKahn]

Maybe play better D

[FireDavidKahn]

Give Anthony Edwards a year or two to develop and they'll be good.

Yep. Ant has daddy dicking potential. Not there yet but man he is special

[FireDavidKahn]

It really is crazy how talented he is. He might be the GOAT outside shooting big. He has more handles than he should at his size. He has moves in the midrange. Can face up…do more around the basket than you think. Pass a bit. Rebound. He has some guard moves attacking. He feeeeeels like an all timer talent wise. I’m sure some confident coach wants to fix him.

If he goes to a competent team with a competent FO, he is going to explode. People will actually realize just how good he is. Hard to build a team around him when we are changing coaches every season and turning over the roster every year.

Thank god Glen Taylor is on his way out. Lore/AROD give this franchise actual hope as we'll be in uncharted waters without Glen (he'll still technically be around for a few years but Lore/AROD are calling the shots so far). So while I do believe the KAT saga has run its course, even though he wont be traded for a while, we Wolves fans finally have *some* hope now that turd Taylor is gone.

[Xiao Yao You]

Yep. Ant has daddy dicking potential. Not there yet but man he is special

too bad he's scared of Porzingas! :roll:

[FireDavidKahn]

too bad he's scared of Porzingas! :roll:

:roll:

He definitely has some growing up to do. Those comments were awful:facepalm:roll:

[999Guy]

Phoenix sees Ayton for what he is. Decent starting big.

I imagine they could get Towns relatively easily. I’d love to see it.

[SATAN]

too bad he's scared of Porzingas! :roll:

Meltdown.

[Wally450]

Jaylen Brown for KAT.

[Thenameless]

What team has the best chance of trading for KAT? Or let's say, which teams?

[Axe]

This guy should try playing for his hometown team someday, the nets. Unfortunately they're in brooklyn for a long time already but still it isn't that far off from NJ.