why is Curry 24-5 with Dray and Poole but Lebron is only 16-14 with AD and Westbrook?

[nineiron]

discuss..

[Manny98]

Because Curry > LeBron simple as that

[ELITEpower23]

FMVPs

LJ = 4
KD = 2
Curry = 0

Catch up :oldlol:





Levels

:dancin

2

:lebronamazed:

This

:djparty

Shit

:hammertime:

[Lebron23]

discuss..

Because LeBron missed 12 games. You ugly looking Midget.

Lebron is better than Curry and Kobe

[zeerghit]

FMVPs

LJ = 4
KD = 2
Curry = 0

Catch up :oldlol:





Levels

:dancin

2

:lebronamazed:

This

:djparty

Shit

:hammertime:
wtf you talking about? how this is related to topic??

[ELITEpower23]

wtf you talking about? how this is related to topic??

Was this topic really worth discussing?

Season 19 LeBron while missing 12 games himself?

[TheGoatest]

https://i.insider.com/60a5ef37f27b4c0019445841?width=700

LeBron did this to Curry in the play-ins at the age of 36 and sent Curry to lose to Ja Morant despite having Draymond, Wiggins and Poole having a better game than any teammate Ja had.

But I would be worried about what is happening with Curry right about now. He has shot above .421 just once in his last 8 games, a streak which included 6-20, 7-28 and 4-21 shooting nights. If this isn't just a slump and is a sign of something permanent, then he's declining way quicker than I thought he would be.

[nineiron]

bran stans confused, as usual.

stay on topic.

[nineiron]

Because LeBron missed 12 games. You ugly looking Midget.

Lebron is better than Curry and Kobe

so what's the Laker's record with lebron?

[Bronbron23]

discuss..

Warriors play smarter

[3ba11]

Curry's elite jumpshooting skill has the best teammate fits and allows the best strategy (ball movement), so his teams have the highest ceilings with the least help.. He did this in 2015 too when Klay/Dray weren't all-stars heading into that season.

People don't realize that Curry can control the game MORE by letting teammatres start the possession with the ball and then closing as many possessions as needed - this elevates teammates more than telling them to stand in the corner (ball-domination), while also "saving" them whenever needed as the "closer" of possessions.. This is the optimal way to play and guys that combine their on-ball and off-ball game like this have the highest team ceilngs/Finals records (Curry, MJ, Bird, Kobe, Dirk, Kawhi, etc).. However, notice that all these guys have elite jumpshooting skill on either threes or two's, which is required to be a good off-ball player.

[1987_Lakers]

Curry's elite jumpshooting skill has the best teammate fits and allows the best strategy (ball movement), so his teams have the highest ceilings with the least help.. He did this in 2015 too when Klay/Dray weren't all-stars heading into that season.

People don't realize that Curry can control the game MORE by letting teammatres start the possession with the ball and then closing as many possessions as needed - this elevates teammates more than telling them to stand in the corner (ball-domination), while also "saving" them whenever needed as the "closer" of possessions.. This is the optimal way to play and guys that combine their on-ball and off-ball game like this have the highest team ceilngs/Finals records (Curry, MJ, Bird, Kobe, Dirk, Kawhi, etc).. However, notice that all these guys have elite jumpshooting skill on either threes or two's, which is required to be a good off-ball player.


Klay doesn't turn this borderline playoff team into a 73-win team, so it was just the strategy edge that the league caught up to.

The 16' Warriors style is now the league standard

So Curry is just a 3-point shooter that benefits from the format and the 16' Warriors weren't that good - they just had a short-lived strategy edge and needed KD to actually win

Btw, don't pretend the other pieces like Harrison Barnes were the difference.. system bums like Dray and other role players thrived under the new strategy advantage but now look bummy without the strategy edge
.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492449-It-s-time-to-admit-the-16-Warriors-weren-t-that-good-amp-simply-had-strategy-because

[SouBeachTalents]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492449-It-s-time-to-admit-the-16-Warriors-weren-t-that-good-amp-simply-had-strategy-because
I honestly don't even know if 3ball is mentally ill or if he's just a troll. He literally contradicted himself in like 5 minutes about 3 point shooters :lol

[3ba11]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492449-It-s-time-to-admit-the-16-Warriors-weren-t-that-good-amp-simply-had-strategy-because


Once I settled on official top 10 criteria (which everyone should do), I realized that Curry qualified:



Top 10 critieria:

1. No one that planned their destination is allowed - no one that learned how to team-hop - only guys that learned how to WIN (organic)

2. Players are highly-valued in the rankings if they won without equal-scoring partners to attract equal defensive attention, and therefore defeated maximum defensive attention (full burden), aka carry-job (10 ppg more than sidekick in Playoffs and Finals).

3. Rigid styles/skillsets are downgraded like 1-dimensional centers or ball-dominators, since they need super-team help and have weaker team ceilings/Finals records

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

Because curry and draymond are a modern day Jordan and pippen.

They have never lost in a playoff series since 2015 besides one year against kawhi in 2019.

[1987_Lakers]

Once I settled on official top 10 criteria (which everyone should do), I realized that Curry qualified:



Top 10 critieria:

1. No one that planned their destination is allowed - no one that learned how to team-hop - only guys that learned how to WIN (organic)

2. Players are highly-valued in the rankings if they won without equal-scoring partners to attract equal defensive attention, and therefore defeated maximum defensive attention (full burden), aka carry-job (10 ppg more than sidekick in Playoffs and Finals).

3. Rigid styles/skillsets are downgraded like 1-dimensional centers or ball-dominators, since they need super-team help and have weaker team ceilings/Finals records

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493318-Curry-is-the-most-overrated-player-in-history


He relies on today's high-screen, drive-and-kick strategy.

This strategy allows 3-point shooters to stand and wait for kickouts, thus adding to the attempts they get off-the-dribble or off screens - if Curry had to run off screens with a defender stuck to him like Reggie Miller had to do, he would barely get off 5 theees a game..

Curry actually took 5 threes a game for 3 straight years and was a 19 ppg scorer, but then the league strategy became the aforementioned 3-point contest, which allowed Curry's production to reach elite levels.

Ultimately, he's just a 3-point shooter, so he's 1-dimensional.

:roll:

[3ba11]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493318-Curry-is-the-most-overrated-player-in-history



:roll:


I came around on Curry and Giannis - they've proven me wrong, while Lebron never has - I've never been wrong about Lebron

[ShawkFactory]

I came around on Curry and Giannis - they've proven me wrong, while Lebron never has - I've never been wrong about Lebron

Not really impressive given that the criteria constantly changes to ensure this. Like you're entire way of analyzing basketball revolves around taking Lebron down. Good on you for being passionate but it's a drop in the ocean bud.

[3ba11]

Not really impressive given that the criteria constantly changes to ensure this. Like you're entire way of analyzing basketball revolves around taking Lebron down. Good on you for being passionate but it's a drop in the ocean bud.


there was never any criteria - he's always been a spotty-shooting ball-dominator and more of a robot than a pure scorer so I always knew he would fall far short of Jordan's performance or winning

And yes, I've reveled in it the entire time.. It's quite entertaining to predict the future and then watch it unfold.

[Airupthere]

Somebody needs moooaaarrr hheeeeellllppppp!!!

[Axe]

Because the warriors got this guy back

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSSe4YHrtHqeAdAa0QMWdnLJVG-zWacwFR2bw&usqp=CAU

He made another finals trip during the disney bubble last year, this time with the miami heat while chef faked a hand injury and quit on his team in 2020 because he couldn't figure out how to play yet without his fellow splash bro by his side. :ohwell:

[Spurs m8]

Amazing, given the ease of the Lakers schedule.

That's my LeGOAT

[Gohan]

Because the warriors got this guy back

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSSe4YHrtHqeAdAa0QMWdnLJVG-zWacwFR2bw&usqp=CAU

He made another finals trip during the disney bubble last year, this time with the miami heat while chef faked a hand injury and quit on his team in 2020 because he couldn't figure out how to play yet without his fellow splash bro by his side. :ohwell:

Ill tell you a secret axe: its really because of Allen Iverson not andre

[Axe]

Ill tell you a secret axe: its really because of Allen Iverson not andre
You mean allen iverson really got andre iguodala to be a lucky charm wherever he goes to? Lmao

[nineiron]

Because the warriors got this guy back

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSSe4YHrtHqeAdAa0QMWdnLJVG-zWacwFR2bw&usqp=CAU

He made another finals trip during the disney bubble last year, this time with the miami heat while chef faked a hand injury and quit on his team in 2020 because he couldn't figure out how to play yet without his fellow splash bro by his side. :ohwell:

why didn't LeGM grab him? it's not like ppl were falling over each other trying to get Iguodala.

[nineiron]

Because curry and draymond are a modern day Jordan and pippen.

They have never lost in a playoff series since 2015 besides one year against kawhi in 2019.

you're comparing Curry to MJ? lmfao

Curry's a great regular season player. but in no way, shape or form is he a "modern day MJ"

[Axe]

why didn't LeGM grab him? it's not like ppl were falling over each other trying to get Iguodala.
Apparently the mighty king kong never became aware of that secret until now. But hey, at least he's won twice against iguodala in the finals you know.

[Axe]

you're comparing Curry to MJ? lmfao

Curry's a great regular season player. but in no way, shape or form is he a "modern day MJ"
He has yet to win a finals mvp before he gets into that conversation.