so UFC fighters actually can't fight and need women's self defense techniques to win

[John_Connor]

when women used to get brutalized by average guys like Jake paul they went to these classes to learn leverage and kicks and how to fight on their backs and protect themselves from being raped


that's a ufc fighter. theyre basically women. if they try standing toe to toe with anyone that get knocked the f*ck out unless it's against a 75 year old Evander

pathetic. just implement groin strikes, eye gouging and biting and ufc would be a perfect representation of that b*tch style of fighting

throw a set of car keys in there too and a high heal shoe while youre at it. keep these women like woodley and askren guessing what's next

[Bronbron23]

when women used to get brutalized by average guys like Jake paul they went to these classes to learn leverage and kicks and how to fight on their backs and protect themselves from being raped


that's a ufc fighter. theyre basically women. if they try standing toe to toe with anyone that get knocked the f*ck out unless it's against a 75 year old Evander

pathetic. just implement groin strikes, eye gouging and biting and ufc would be a perfect representation of that b*tch style of fighting

throw a set of car keys in there too and a high heal shoe while youre at it. keep these women like woodley and askren guessing what's next

Nah man they can fight better than boxers but boxing and ufc is just different. People think it should translate because you punch in the ufc but it dosn't work that way. It's like expecting a quarter back to be able to be a good pitcher or vice versa because they both throw a ball for a living.

Ufc fighters have to train for a hundred different things. You can lose to a ankle hold for shit sakes. Boxers just have to box and defend punches.

[John_Connor]

Nah man they can fight better than boxers but boxing and ufc is just different. People think it should translate because you punch in the ufc but it dosn't work that way. It's like expecting a quarter back to be able to be a good pitcher or vice versa because they both throw a ball for a living.

Ufc fighters have to train for a hundred different things. You can lose to a ankle hold for shit sakes. Boxers just have to box and defend punches.

they can wrestle better. they can't fight better. there's a reason for 100 years people said "are you watching the fight tonight" when referring to boxing

and if you challenged a guy to a fight you slugged it out. because that's how a man fights

MMA isn't fighting. it's surviving. it's a defensive sport. laying on your back isn't fighting. doing bicycle kicks like a female isn't fighting. holding someone's arm to keep them from punching you isn't fighting.. its surviving. it's how you avoid fighting. a hold isn't a fight. it's how you stop the fight from happening. choking isn't fighting. it's murder. it shouldn't even be allowed in the sport. you're teaching someone a maneuver thats made for a life and death scenario. that's just bad form

[Bronbron23]

they can wrestle better. they can't fight better. there's a reason for 100 years people said "are you watching the fight tonight" when referring to boxing

and if you challenged a guy to a fight you slugged it out. because that's how a man fights

MMA isn't fighting. it's surviving. it's a defensive sport. laying on your back isn't fighting. doing bicycle kicks like a female isn't fighting. holding someone's arm to keep them from punching you isn't fighting.. its surviving. it's how you avoid fighting. a hold isn't a fight. it's how you stop the fight from happening. choking isn't fighting. it's murder. it shouldn't even be allowed in the sport. you're teaching someone a maneuver thats made for a life and death scenario. that's just bad form

i like boxing way more and i hear ya man but it's a different day. It just is what it is. Mma is here to stay and it's less corrupt than boxing. They also make the best fighters fight each other so it's giving the fans the big fights they want more often.

And dude the world is a big place. Sure they may traditionally view fighting as just using your hands in places like north america and Europe but other places like asia and africa have a different outlook on what fighting is. Nether is right or wrong.

[TheCorporation]

Low IQ Kenny with another ill advised take. Sometimes I read your posts and think "This has to be a troll, there's no damn way someone is really this dumb..." But you prove me wrong everytime.

Imagine thinking training to defend punches and learning that type of combat spacing/ footwork is ANYTHING close to training to defend from:
punches, leg kicks, knees, grappling, take downs, head kicks, spinning back fists, flying knees, solar plex kicks, wrestling, elbows, clinching, etc.

[John_Connor]

i like boxing way more and i hear ya man but it's a different day. It just is what it is. Mma is here to stay and it's less corrupt than boxing. They also make the best fighters fight each other so it's giving the fans the big fights they want more often.

And dude the world is a big place. Sure they may traditionally view fighting as just using your hands in places like north america and Europe but other places like asia and africa have a different outlook on what fighting is. Nether is right or wrong.

ufc has turned into bum fights. they don't even really use MMA much anymore and make guys stand up and box each other to put on more exciting fights but it's not really skilled boxing. it's exciting sure but theyre not impressing me as fighters. Dana white punishes boring technical fighters and rewards guys that just cave each other's faces in. it might as well be bare knuckle boxing

[John_Connor]

Low IQ Kenny with another ill advised take. Sometimes I read your posts and think "This has to be a troll, there's no damn way someone is really this dumb..." But you prove me wrong everytime.

Imagine thinking training to defend punches and learning that type of combat spacing/ footwork is ANYTHING close to training to defend from:
punches, leg kicks, knees, grappling, take downs, head kicks, spinning back fists, flying knees, solar plex kicks, wrestling, elbows, clinching, etc.

its a good survival skill to learn all that stuff if you're afraid of being raped. I know you're like 5'8 so you need it to have any chance but some of us can actually hold our own in a fist fight


they invented BJJ to protect women like you from men like me

[TheCorporation]

its a good survival skill to learn all that stuff if you're afraid of being raped. I know you're like 5'8 so you need it to have any chance but some of us can actually hold our own in a fist fight


they invented BJJ to protect women like you from men like me

Low IQ Kenny with another ill advised take. Sometimes I read your posts and think "This has to be a troll, there's no damn way someone is really this dumb..." But you prove me wrong everytime.

[Bronbron23]

ufc has turned into bum fights. they don't even really use MMA much anymore and make guys stand up and box each other to put on more exciting fights but it's not really skilled boxing. it's exciting sure but theyre not impressing me as fighters. Dana white punishes boring technical fighters and rewards guys that just cave each other's faces in. it might as well be bare knuckle boxing

Dude there's plenty of ufc fighters that use grappling still. You must not watch that much because there's grappling all the time.

I get that you don't like it. I felt the same way initially when the sport first took off. Yes there are alot of guys who are raw and aren't great technical fighters but there's also alot of guys who are extremely skilled qnd technical in multiple disciplines. If you give it a chance it's a great fighting sport

[John_Connor]

Dude there's plenty of ufc fighters that use grappling still. You must not watch that much because there's grappling all the time.

I get that you don't like it. I felt the same way initially when the sport first took off. Yes there are alot of guys who are raw and aren't great technical fighters but there's also alot of guys who are extremely skilled qnd technical in multiple disciplines. If you give it a chance it's a great fighting sport

I loved ufc and was a big fan of GSP bit today's product is trash and you know it. there isn't plenty of grappling. all I see is guys telling the other fighter to stand up. all I see is bonus money handed out to slugging matches. all I see is guys like conor who have no ground game getting hyped up. all I see is guys like usman stuffing every take down cause these guys forgot how to do it obviously. the sports a joke now. especially women fighters. it's rockem sockem shit. its bum fights now. the only holds these guys do is when they rest against the cage cause they're punched out

[John_Connor]

Low IQ Kenny with another ill advised take. Sometimes I read your posts and think "This has to be a troll, there's no damn way someone is really this dumb..." But you prove me wrong everytime.

5'8ball lakers1987 midget jew boy forgot to switch accounts again and keeps spamming the same shit cause hes hurt about his height forcing him to learn female self defense techniques that only really work if you're wearing sleeves or gloves. otherwise there's nothing to hold onto lmao. enjoy getting raped if the guy takes his jacket off

[tpols]

:roll:

OP I think you would get a kick out of this fight. Its one of the first UFC title matches before they even had weight classes. Tank Abbot vs Don Frye. Tank fights exactly how you say, batters Dons face but loses because he lacked the grappling ground skill.


https://youtu.be/2lhxhEkZ2qU

Another great example Dan Severn vs Gracie (inventors of on your back BJJ)

Severn dominates whole match but one slip and he loses. Gracie literally jumped to the floor and invited him to get on top so he could hunt submission.

[John_Connor]

:roll:

OP I think you would get a kick out of this fight. Its one of the first UFC title matches before they even had weight classes. Tank Abbot vs Don Frye. Tank fights exactly how you say, batters Dons face but loses because he lacked the grappling ground skill.


https://youtu.be/2lhxhEkZ2qU

Another great example Dan Severn vs Gracie (inventors of on your back BJJ)

Severn dominates whole match but one slip and he loses. Gracie literally jumped to the floor and invited him to get on top so he could hunt submission.

exactly. BJJ/wrestling isn't about fighting. it's about surviving or stopping a fight.

which is why when a fight breaks out at a bar guys hold them and bring them down to calm the situation. that's not a fight. it's how to prevent one and keep from dying or getting mangled any further

I remember shamrock vs Gracie going half an hour and then when Gracie couldn't use his Gi anymore he was dog shit

if ufc guys weren't allowed to wear gloves there would be even less successful holds taking place

[tpols]

exactly. BJJ/wrestling isn't about fighting. it's about surviving or stopping a fight.

which is why when a fight breaks out at a bar guys hold them and bring them down to calm the situation. that's not a fight. it's how to prevent one and keep from dying or getting mangled any further

I remember shamrock vs Gracie going half an hour and then when Gracie couldn't use his Gi anymore he was dog shit

if ufc guys weren't allowed to wear gloves there would be even less successful holds taking place

Wrestling definitely has an offensive component and is legit. Go watch a mark Coleman or Dan severn fight. They are non stop attack. Its the guys who lay on their back purposely and hunt submissions it feels cheap.

[John_Connor]

Wrestling definitely has an offensive component and is legit. Go watch a mark Coleman or Dan severn fight. They are non stop attack. Its the guys who lay on their back purposely and hunt submissions it feels cheap.

wrestling isn't fighting. it's wrestling. it's a test of strength and technique. it's not meant for hurting the other guy. you just tap out or get pinned and it's over. how is that settling anything. how are you unleashing fury and anger by avoiding damaging blows. unless you plan on breaking someone's neck or arm. then you're just an asshole

[Bronbron23]

wrestling isn't fighting. it's wrestling. it's a test of strength and technique. it's not meant for hurting the other guy. you just tap out or get pinned and it's over. how is that settling anything. how are you unleashing fury and anger by avoiding damaging blows. unless you plan on breaking someone's neck or arm. then you're just an asshole

Dude it's all fighting. You have a very narrow view of what fighting is

[John_Connor]

Dude it's all fighting. You have a very narrow view of what fighting is

no because I can wrestle with friends and not get hurt. it's fun when you're drunk. there's almost no adrenaline involved. it's not the same high. and it's not a good way to settle anything. it's like arm wrestling. is that fighting. nope

a fight is seeking to inflict damage. just making someone tap or holding them back/down is useless. neither guy will be satisfied and the beef will continue

[John_Connor]

if wrestling was fighting they wouldn't allow kids to do it in elementary schools


you think a guy is worrying about scoring points in a real fight. there's no score cards lol. you better knock the ****er out or when you let him go he's just gonna start attacking you again

[tpols]

wrestling isn't fighting. it's wrestling. it's a test of strength and technique. it's not meant for hurting the other guy. you just tap out or get pinned and it's over. how is that settling anything. how are you unleashing fury and anger by avoiding damaging blows. unless you plan on breaking someone's neck or arm. then you're just an asshole

Most wrestlers use ground and pound and absolutely hurt their opponents. Brock Lesnars only skill was to tackle you and beat the shit out of you. Most wrestlers inflict heavy damage in ground and pound and that is definitely a valid form of fighting. That's offense not defense.

[John_Connor]

Most wrestlers use ground and pound and absolutely hurt their opponents. Brock Lesnars only skill was to tackle you and beat the shit out of you. Most wrestlers inflict heavy damage in ground and pound and that is definitely a valid form of fighting. That's offense not defense.

ya but when shit goes to the ground it gets broken up in a real fight. people don't just let a guy pin a dude down and beat his face in lmao.. its not realistic unless nobodies around and then it usually turns into a homicide or attempted murder


be a man and slug it out. then you can at least get it all out of your system. that's the only way to fight someone.

now if it's a home invasion and you have a family then it's a whole different story. then use all that crap and choke a guy out. it's just more about etiquette

[tpols]

ya but when shit goes to the ground it gets broken up in a real fight. people don't just let a guy pin a dude down and beat his face in lmao.. its not realistic unless nobodies around and then it usually turns into a homicide or attempted murder

If two guys square up I've never heard of wrestling being off the table. I've seen plenty of fights where a guy shoots and starts throwing down while on top.

The funny thing is the style of fighting you're talking about is more likely to lead to death. When somebody gets KO'ed while standing up they can fall and whack their head on the cement. People die like that all the time. Getting ground and pound is more of just a beating. You're not gonna die from it.

[Akeem34TheDream]

OP is obviously too soft to enjoy a cage fight. I want to see two men entering the cage and stronger, fitter and more intelligent guy winning the fight. This mf talking about not being nice and fair and etc. Too violent or sth. Grow a pair. And he says it is for females? LMAO.

[Bronbron23]

no because I can wrestle with friends and not get hurt. it's fun when you're drunk. there's almost no adrenaline involved. it's not the same high. and it's not a good way to settle anything. it's like arm wrestling. is that fighting. nope

a fight is seeking to inflict damage. just making someone tap or holding them back/down is useless. neither guy will be satisfied and the beef will continue

You can do alot of damage wrestling and grappling dude.

And when guys tap out they're tapping out because they're about to get their arm or leg broke or get put to sleep.

Again i get you prefer boxing, I do also. You should give some respect to other principles.

[John_Connor]

If two guys square up I've never heard of wrestling being off the table. I've seen plenty of fights where a guy shoots and starts throwing down while on top.

The funny thing is the style of fighting you're talking about is more likely to lead to death. When somebody gets KO'ed while standing up they can fall and whack their head on the cement. People die like that all the time. Getting ground and pound is more of just a beating. You're not gonna die from it.

if you wrestle when another guy squares up then you're pussying out if you just go for a wrestling match. that's just admitting you can't fight or you don't wanna get hurt or risk bleeding. like I said it's a way to avoid fighting. it's not fighting

[John_Connor]

You can do alot of damage wrestling and grappling dude.

And when guys tap out they're tapping out because they're about to get their arm or leg broke or get put to sleep.

Again i get you prefer boxing, I do also. You should give some respect to other principles.

guys don't resort to wrestling to do damage. you CAN do damage. but only if the other guy just keeps resisting and won't let up. but if you're pinned it should be over. if you tap it's over. if the other guy is helpless it's over. if the other guy doesn't have a chance to defend himself and you keep going then it's basically aggrevated assault and a 6 month to 10 year jail sentence depending on your criminal history and if the guy gets seriously injured. a regular fist fight between 2 willing combatants is usually just some disorderly conduct shit out of the drunk tank in the morning

[John_Connor]

https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/web/video.php?v=wshhz0adYMFjxus6Z6lH

here's a good example of how a fight turned into attempted murder cause they saw some women's self defense sport on tv and decided it was a good maneuver to use on a kids skull on solid ground. dude probly has brain damage. this isn't how you settle beef. it's how you fight if the other guy has a gun or a knife. otherwise you're just being an asshole

[Bronbron23]

guys don't resort to wrestling to do damage. you CAN do damage. but only if the other guy just keeps resisting and won't let up. but if you're pinned it should be over. if you tap it's over. if the other guy is helpless it's over. if the other guy doesn't have a chance to defend himself and you keep going then it's basically aggrevated assault and a 6 month to 10 year jail sentence depending on your criminal history and if the guy gets seriously injured. a regular fist fight between 2 willing combatants is usually just some disorderly conduct shit out of the drunk tank in the morning

But some boxers don't box to do damage. They box to win on points.

And most mma guys can do more than wrestle. Wrestling is just a part of what they do.

Qnd plenty of people have neen killed or injured from a punch to the face so i'm really not sure what your talking about.

[John_Connor]

But some boxers don't box to do damage. They box to win on points.

And most mma guys can do more than wrestle. Wrestling is just a part of what they do.

Qnd plenty of people have neen killed or injured from a punch to the face so i'm really not sure what your talking about.

the likelihood of a guy dying from a punch is far lower than dying from being dropped or slammed on the back of your head. most people don't have the power to kill a guy with a punch. maybe knock out for a few seconds but nothing serious.

the reason less brain injuries happen in mma is because they're slamming people on a mat with a spring under the ring. when you do those mma moves on someone with concrete under them you're risking a murder charge.

and if you break their arm you can get a lawsuit. keep it to scuffs and bruises and you probly won't go to jail

and if you just take a guy down and hold him there and don't bash his brains in when he's defenseless then he's getting up and throwing punches after you let go. and if you choke him out then he just might not wake up. why risk killing a guy just cause you wanna avoid getting punched in the face. be a man and square up.

if some mma guy tries some dumb shit on me like that I'm gonna pull out a knife and stab him in the neck cause I know those moves he knows are deadly. so I have to protect myself and kill his ass first. so if you don't wanna fist fight then be prepared for anything. if I'm getting choked out I'm gonna act like it's an attempt on my life. I'm not gonna let some guy put me out then punt my skull. I'm gonna grab my knife and slice his jugular

[Norcaliblunt]

Best stand up fighters are the ones that have head movement, footwork, and are out there basically dancing avoiding slugging it out.

I feel you though.

None of this shit should be called fighting.

[Bronbron23]

the likelihood of a guy dying from a punch is far lower than dying from being dropped or slammed on the back of your head. most people don't have the power to kill a guy with a punch. maybe knock out for a few seconds but nothing serious.

the reason less brain injuries happen in mma is because they're slamming people on a mat with a spring under the ring. when you do those mma moves on someone with concrete under them you're risking a murder charge.

and if you break their arm you can get a lawsuit. keep it to scuffs and bruises and you probly won't go to jail

and if you just take a guy down and hold him there and don't bash his brains in when he's defenseless then he's getting up and throwing punches after you let go. and if you choke him out then he just might not wake up. why risk killing a guy just cause you wanna avoid getting punched in the face. be a man and square up.

if some mma guy tries some dumb shit on me like that I'm gonna pull out a knife and stab him in the neck cause I know those moves he knows are deadly. so I have to protect myself and kill his ass first.

Nah man your talking shit. Punchers aren't gonna contain themselves from over doing it with punches anymore than Mma guys can contain themselves from over doing with q hold.

And most people who die from punches don't die from the punch. They die from cracking their head on the concrete when they fall from the punch.

Your stuck on your narrow view of fighting being just hands. You think that because of the culture you grew up in. If you were born in china, brazil, Thailand or Africa you'd think different. If you don't think the best fighters from those places aren't men i don't know what to tell you.

[Norcaliblunt]

There comes a time in a man’s life when he realizes fighting like Floyd Mayweather or GSP is the real way to fight. Dodge a few punches make a fool look dumb or just hold a mofo down and make them look stupid.

Boys slug it out.

[John_Connor]

There comes a time in a man’s life when he realizes fighting like Floyd Mayweather or GSP is the real way to fight. Dodge a few punches make a fool look dumb or just hold a mofo down and make them look stupid.

Boys slug it out.

hey if you can dodge punches and counter go right ahead. that's just good boxing. nothing wrong with that. but someone mayweathers size wouldn't be doing very well in a real street fight unless he learned those female self defense techniques cause the dudes a midget and couldn't even put away Logan paul

[John_Connor]

Nah man your talking shit. Punchers aren't gonna contain themselves from over doing it with punches anymore than Mma guys can contain themselves from over doing with q hold.

And most people who die from punches don't die from the punch. They die from cracking their head on the concrete when they fall from the punch.

Your stuck on your narrow view of fighting being just hands. You think that because of the culture you grew up in. If you were born in china, brazil, Thailand or Africa you'd think different. If you don't think the best fighters from those places aren't men i don't know what to tell you.

nonsense. when 2 guys with boxing etiquette go at it and they drop a dude the fights over. only some thug hoodrats gonna take some cheap shots and stomps on a guy after he's out cold. so just stick to fighting white guys. if you see a group of black guys picking a fight just run or grab a weapon. they won't fight fair even if they say they will

and ya most people who die in a street fight get ****ed hitting their head but that shits pretty rare. it's mostly from sucker punches and guys not being ready


and yes I know it's a culture thing. which is why our culture is the best. we have respect even for the person we're trying to beat the crap out of. at least we used to. in other countries if you start a fight youl probly get shot or stabbed.

[Norcaliblunt]

hey if you can dodge punches and counter go right ahead. that's just good boxing. nothing wrong with that. but someone mayweathers size wouldn't be doing very well in a real street fight unless he learned those female self defense techniques cause the dudes a midget and couldn't even put away Logan paul

Some big LOP mofo wouldn’t even be able to touch Mayweather in the street unless he tried to wrestle, clinch, grapple. Lol.

Bruh I get your point, but beating a man with your fists until they submit versus choking them out? Lol.

Real men fight with their brain. It’s a mind game fool.

It I can beat you without even touching you, that’s a win. And what Gentleman do.

[Norcaliblunt]

https://youtu.be/7KF4iJzBVWM

[John_Connor]

Some big LOP mofo wouldn’t even be able to touch Mayweather in the street unless he tried to wrestle, clinch, grapple. Lol.

Bruh I get your point, but beating a man with your fists until they submit versus choking them out? Lol.

Real men fight with their brain. It’s a mind game fool.

It I can beat you without even touching you, that’s a win. And what Gentleman do.

Logan pauls trash and he touched mayweather a bunch. mcgregor never boxed in his life and won half the rounds before that tko... and if he did his lame turn and dip/put his ass in the other guys crotch like he does in the ring he would deserve a rear naked choke. his boxing style isn't good for street boxing. you just sound retarded at this point lol

[Norcaliblunt]

nonsense. Logan pauls trash and he touched mayweather a bunch. and if he did his lame turn and dip/put his ass in the other guys crotch like he does in the ring he would deserve a rear naked choke. his boxing style isn't good for street boxing. you just sound retarded at this point lol

You wanna fight?

[John_Connor]

You wanna fight?

only if you're Steve. I wanna punch that jew in the mouth so bad

[Norcaliblunt]

only if you're Steve. I wanna punch that jew in the mouth so bad

Your moms a dumb ****. What?

[John_Connor]

Your moms a dumb ****. What?

I'm not black. you're gonna have to do better than that lol

offer me money if you wanna fight. make it worth my time. I'm in ottawa

[Norcaliblunt]

I'm not black. you're gonna have to do better than that lol

offer me money if you wanna fight. make it worth my time. I'm in ottawa

I’m not woke so your wannabe edgy Jew this, black that crap doesn’t mean anything to me.

[John_Connor]

I’m not woke so your wannabe edgy Jew this, black that crap doesn’t mean anything to me.

I dunno you look pretty enraged


https://youtu.be/YDnJ6wRLSC8

[Norcaliblunt]

I dunno you look pretty enraged


https://youtu.be/YDnJ6wRLSC8

Dude you’re from Canada. Big LOL.

[John_Connor]

Dude you’re from Canada. Big LOL.

the best mma fighter ever is from Canada

Lennox Lewis is half Canadian

nhl players are mostly Canadian and would kill any other athlete in a fight

Canadians are naturally tough. braving harsher weather and we're all hunters mostly.

what do you think we're comparing right now. celebrities? lol

I chop down trees in the summer and shovel 20 feet of snow in the winter lol.. I'm in great shape. are you

[Norcaliblunt]

the best mma fighter ever is from Canada

Lennox Lewis is half Canadian

nhl players are mostly Canadian and would kill any other athlete in a fight

Canadians are naturally tough. braving harsher weather and we're all hunters mostly.

what do you think we're comparing right now. celebrities? lol

I chop down trees in the summer and shovel 20 feet of snow in the winter lol.. I'm in great shape. are you

Cool story bruh. **** Canada.

[John_Connor]

Cool story bruh. **** Canada.


I dunno I like it. great looking cities. low crime rate. polite people. minority free suburbs. no guns or riots. it's like the states but without all the bullshit

[TheCorporation]

the best mma fighter ever is from Canada

Lennox Lewis is half Canadian

nhl players are mostly Canadian and would kill any other athlete in a fight

Canadians are naturally tough. braving harsher weather and we're all hunters mostly.

what do you think we're comparing right now. celebrities? lol

I chop down trees in the summer and shovel 20 feet of snow in the winter lol.. I'm in great shape. are you

Slow down breh

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[Bronbron23]

nonsense. when 2 guys with boxing etiquette go at it and they drop a dude the fights over. only some thug hoodrats gonna take some cheap shots and stomps on a guy after he's out cold. so just stick to fighting white guys. if you see a group of black guys picking a fight just run or grab a weapon. they won't fight fair even if they say they will

and ya most people who die in a street fight get ****ed hitting their head but that shits pretty rare. it's mostly from sucker punches and guys not being ready


and yes I know it's a culture thing. which is why our culture is the best. we have respect even for the person we're trying to beat the crap out of. at least we used to. in other countries if you start a fight youl probly get shot or stabbed.

What? America has some of the highest crime rates in the world.

I give man. I get you prefer boxing and came up in that culture but it dosn't mean it's the best. You have alot of ignorant views most were highlighted in this post.

[John_Connor]

Slow down breh

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-1372-1334245553.jpg



https://i.pinimg.com/originals/14/1b/b5/141bb55bb73524d8e9fb440317211f0d.jpg

how do guns and tanks make you a tougher person in a fist fight lol


little Chris jericho took out the big bad Bill goldberg with ease. don't f*ck with a Canadian. we're just built tougher

[John_Connor]

What? America has some of the highest crime rates in the world.

I give man. I get you prefer boxing and came up in that culture but it dosn't mean it's the best. You have alot of ignorant views most were highlighted in this post.

I didn't say boxing was the best. I actually prefer to watch ufc unless it's a big boxing ppv like fury/wilder

I'm just saying there's a way to fight with class and it isn't with bicycle kicks on your back screaming like a little girl

[Bronbron23]

I didn't say boxing was the best. I actually prefer to watch ufc unless it's a big boxing ppv like fury/wilder

I'm just saying there's a way to fight with class and it isn't with bicycle kicks on your back screaming like a little girl

What? Who in the hell is screaming like a girl throwing q bunch of bicycle kicks?

So in this utopian fight world you speak of what do you do in a Street fight when 2 guys lock up? It happens in boxing all the time and the ref will break them up.

You can't use wrestling or grappling because in your view There's no class or honor in that so what do you do?

[GimmeThat]

and the world's best chess player is a computer, because the computer doesn't need to answer the question 'why am I simply repeating a known equation'

[John_Connor]

What? Who in the hell is screaming like a girl throwing q bunch of bicycle kicks?

So in this utopian fight world you speak of what do you do in a Street fight when 2 guys lock up? It happens in boxing all the time and the ref will break them up.

You can't use wrestling or grappling because in your view There's no class or honor in that so what do you do?

if you're on the ground fighting on your back then you're a little girl and probly screaming "no! stop! please! someone call 911!"

why else would you be resorting to BJJ unless you were afraid of being raped. a tougher individual would just shove the other guy on his ass or knock his ass out with one punch. like I said they invented these maneuvers for little girls and midgets. so you would obviously be afraid for your life. why wouldn't you be screaming like a little girl when you fall to the ground and grab their leg

[highwhey]

agreed, boxing=real fighting

ufc=joke, white people sport

no one takes the ufc seriously except kyles that drink monster like it's water

[tpols]

agreed, boxing=real fighting

ufc=joke, white people sport

no one takes the ufc seriously except kyles that drink monster like it's water

Most of the greatest UFC fighters were black or Spanish lol. Brazilians invented the sport basically too.

[Bronbron23]

if you're on the ground fighting on your back then you're a little girl and probly screaming "no! stop! please! someone call 911!"

why else would you be resorting to BJJ unless you were afraid of being raped. a tougher individual would just shove the other guy on his ass or knock his ass out with one punch. like I said they invented these maneuvers for little girls and midgets. so you would obviously be afraid for your life. why wouldn't you be screaming like a little girl when you fall to the ground and grab their leg

Bruh your trippin

[FKAri]

See kenny this is where your beta genetics really affect your judgment. Jumping around in a bouncey castle with shoes on tagging, each other with pom-poms isn't fighting. This is a bored rich man from the 19th century's idea of fighting.

The ancient Greeks knew what real fighting was. This is why they put wrestling as the crown jewel in their Olympic competition. How do we know that the Greeks knew what actual fighting was? Because they fucced men in the ass on a regular basis. And a fight isn't real unless the loser gets fucced in the ass. That's why when you fight, it's on the ground. In the mud. Half naked so you have no margin for error. And no time to beg for mercy before you're already suffering the consequences of your failure. But you wouldn't understand any of this kenny. You panzy ass phaggit.

[Dr. Lemon]

See kenny this is where your beta genetics really affect your judgment. Jumping around in a bouncey castle with shoes on tagging, each other with pom-poms isn't fighting. This is a bored rich man from the 19th century's idea of fighting.

The ancient Greeks knew what real fighting was. This is why they put wrestling as the crown jewel in their Olympic competition. How do we know that the Greeks knew what actual fighting was? Because they fucced men in the ass on a regular basis. And a fight isn't real unless the loser gets fucced in the ass. That's why when you fight, it's on the ground. In the mud. Half naked so you have no margin for error. And no time to beg for mercy before you're already suffering the consequences of your failure. But you wouldn't understand any of this kenny. You panzy ass phaggit.

Finally, someone in this god-forsaken shit hole who knows a little about history.

The true ferocity and carnal nature of a man oiled up in the nude getting ready to grapple c0ck-to-c0ck with another beast of a man is unparalleled. These p*ssies in their gloves and kilts wouldn't last a second.

[John_Connor]

See kenny this is where your beta genetics really affect your judgment. Jumping around in a bouncey castle with shoes on tagging, each other with pom-poms isn't fighting. This is a bored rich man from the 19th century's idea of fighting.

The ancient Greeks knew what real fighting was. This is why they put wrestling as the crown jewel in their Olympic competition. How do we know that the Greeks knew what actual fighting was? Because they fucced men in the ass on a regular basis. And a fight isn't real unless the loser gets fucced in the ass. That's why when you fight, it's on the ground. In the mud. Half naked so you have no margin for error. And no time to beg for mercy before you're already suffering the consequences of your failure. But you wouldn't understand any of this kenny. You panzy ass phaggit.

wrestling isn't fighting. it's wrestling. if it was fighting then they wouldn't let 6 year olds do it


https://youtu.be/_esGlz12RII

[Bronbron23]

wrestling isn't fighting. it's wrestling. if it was fighting then they wouldn't let 6 year olds do it


https://youtu.be/_esGlz12RII
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xaEhAD0y9-4 Well i guess boxing isn't fighting then. That settes that:facepalm

[John_Connor]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xaEhAD0y9-4 Well i guess boxing isn't fighting then. That settes that:facepalm

headgear. not real boxing. and the gloves are like 10 sizes too big lol. and is that even a league? looks like some irresponsible parenting and not something that's advocated by schools like wrestling is

btw here's another example of 2 people that can't fight turning a scuffle into an attempted murder charge


https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/web/video.php?v=wshhN8418SL79HL6eHsK

[Bronbron23]

headgear. not real boxing. and the gloves are like 10 sizes too big lol. and is that even a league? looks like some irresponsible parenting and not something that's advocated by schools like wrestling is

btw here's another example of 2 people that can't fight turning a scuffle into an attempted murder charge


https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/web/video.php?v=wshhN8418SL79HL6eHsK

Cool video but we csn go back and forth showing videos to support our claims. Plus someone just died recently in boxing bro.

[John_Connor]

Cool video but we csn go back and forth showing videos to support our claims. Plus someone just died recently in boxing bro.

like I said before. boxing is more dangerous inside the ring than mma but outside of it mma is more dangerous

because inside the ring boxers wear gloves which extends the fight and causes more head trauma and mma uses sping board mats like wwe.

in the street bare knuckle boxing usually ends pretty quickly and mma moves can literally kill someone if they're dropped on their head or choked out.

and like I said it's just girly to go to the ground and kick and claw at people. have some dignity for christ sake lol

[Bronbron23]

like I said before. boxing is more dangerous inside the ring than mma but outside of it mma is more dangerous

because inside the ring boxers wear gloves which extends the fight and causes more head trauma and mma uses sping board mats like wwe.

in the street bare knuckle boxing usually ends pretty quickly and mma moves can literally kill someone if they're dropped on their head or choked out.

and like I said it's just girly to go to the ground and kick and claw at people. have some dignity for christ sake lol

Well i actually agree with some of that but i'd have to see the actual data to see if what your saying has any truth to it. My feeling is just as many people die in fights from punches to the head as they do to a mma move.

[Dbrog]

headgear. not real boxing. and the gloves are like 10 sizes too big lol. and is that even a league? looks like some irresponsible parenting and not something that's advocated by schools like wrestling is

btw here's another example of 2 people that can't fight turning a scuffle into an attempted murder charge


https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/web/video.php?v=wshhN8418SL79HL6eHsK

I find it hilarious that you think the suplex is "attempted murder" rather than the cheap shot attempt TO THE BACK OF THE HEAD of the guy who ends up suplexing him. If he didn't avoid that cheap shot (boxing punch btw), he could have easily gotten brain damage

Edit: Literally google "boxing CTE" if you think that sport "doesn't cause serious damage" or is "a real mans way of fighting." Enjoy dying in your shower after having a seizure dumbass

[tpols]

Well i actually agree with some of that but i'd have to see the actual data to see if what your saying has any truth to it. My feeling is just as many people die in fights from punches to the head as they do to a mma move.

I've never seen somebody be so wrong on something lol. Its like the truth has been flipped on its head. :lol (no pun intended)

You don't die from an arm bar or rear naked choke or somebody shooting your legs for a takedown. Most people that die in fights die because they got KO'ed standing up and then on the long fall down whack their heads on the concrete. You hear about it all the time with bar and stadium brawls. This dude has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.

[tpols]

headgear. not real boxing. and the gloves are like 10 sizes too big lol. and is that even a league? looks like some irresponsible parenting and not something that's advocated by schools like wrestling is

btw here's another example of 2 people that can't fight turning a scuffle into an attempted murder charge


https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/web/video.php?v=wshhN8418SL79HL6eHsK

You just posted a video of little kids wrestling... WITH HEADGEAR ON. :lol :facepalm

[John_Connor]

I find it hilarious that you think the suplex is "attempted murder" rather than the cheap shot attempt TO THE BACK OF THE HEAD of the guy who ends up suplexing him. If he didn't avoid that cheap shot (boxing punch btw), he could have easily gotten brain damage

Edit: Literally google "boxing CTE" if you think that sport "doesn't cause serious damage" or is "a real mans way of fighting." Enjoy dying in your shower after having a seizure dumbass

picking someone up and dumping them on their skull on concrete and knocking them unconscious with blood coming out of their ears isn't attempted murder?

can I do it to you? is it just a friendly competition like in ufc with the mats and springs under them lol


and in the ufc these guys are trained how to protect themselves... most of the time the guy doing the mma move to someone on the street is to a guy that has no training

[John_Connor]

I've never seen somebody be so wrong on something lol. Its like the truth has been flipped on its head. :lol (no pun intended)

You don't die from an arm bar or rear naked choke or somebody shooting your legs for a takedown. Most people that die in fights die because they got KO'ed standing up and then on the long fall down whack their heads on the concrete. You hear about it all the time with bar and stadium brawls. This dude has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.

I'd rather have gravity cause my head to hit the ground falling sideways than someone suplexing/underhooking me and driving me on the back or top of my head lol..

and like I said multiple times it's usually sucker punches when people get knocked out and die. when you can protect yourself you're able to absorb punches better and brace yourself

[John_Connor]

You just posted a video of little kids wrestling... WITH HEADGEAR ON. :lol :facepalm

ya and both the boxing with headgear and oversized gloves and wrestling with headgear are pretty harmless to the kids. that's the point. theyre not gonna let kids box without anything to protect them from injury. so it's not real boxing

[Bronbron23]

I've never seen somebody be so wrong on something lol. Its like the truth has been flipped on its head. :lol (no pun intended)

You don't die from an arm bar or rear naked choke or somebody shooting your legs for a takedown. Most people that die in fights die because they got KO'ed standing up and then on the long fall down whack their heads on the concrete. You hear about it all the time with bar and stadium brawls. This dude has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.

Yeah thats what i said also. I can see someone getting slammed though and hitting their head and dying or being severely injured but i don't think that happens way more or anything. Plus slamming someone in a fight is just as manly or less girly as punching them.

Op is definitely trippin on this. There's many different fighting disciplines. I get that he prefers the one he was raised up in but it dosn't mean it's better.

[John_Connor]

Yeah thats what i said also. I can see someone getting slammed though and hitting their head and dying or being severely injured but i don't think that happens way more or anything. Plus slamming someone in a fight is just as manly or less girly as punching them.

Op is definitely trippin on this. There's many different fighting disciplines. I get that he prefers the one he was raised up in but it dosn't mean it's better.

every video I see where a guy gets mma slammed on their head and knocked out its between 2 guys that can't throw punches and aren't even hurting each other. that's why they resort to that stupid shit. if they just fought like men and got it out of their system they would both walk away without serious injury. just watch crazyshit .com or worldstar every day. literally every day there's some stupid shit like that with a dude seizuring on the ground lol

[Dbrog]

picking someone up and dumping them on their skull on concrete and knocking them unconscious with blood coming out of their ears isn't attempted murder?

can I do it to you? is it just a friendly competition like in ufc with the mats and springs under them lol


and in the ufc these guys are trained how to protect themselves... most of the time the guy doing the mma move to someone on the street is to a guy that has no training

Sure let's do it. Only catch is you have to let me sucker punch you in the back of the head first and you can't dodge it like the guy in the video because I guess punches don't seriously hurt people so no problem right?

[Dbrog]

I'd rather have gravity cause my head to hit the ground falling sideways than someone suplexing/underhooking me and driving me on the back or top of my head lol..

and like I said multiple times it's usually sucker punches when people get knocked out and die. when you can protect yourself you're able to absorb punches better and brace yourself

Again this is just flat out not true as others have mentioned who have been around the bar scene. Hell at my high school back in the day I remember two football players straight up box each other and one got hit just right (not sucker punch) and instantly dropped to the ground and had a seizure. It's also idiotic to only measure severity by death...again google CTEs

[John_Connor]

Sure let's do it. Only catch is you have to let me sucker punch you in the back of the head first and you can't dodge it like the guy in the video because I guess punches don't seriously hurt people so no problem right?

that's stupid. I never advocated for sucker punching people. I used that as an example for why some people die from getting punched. read next time

[John_Connor]

Again this is just flat out not true as others have mentioned who have been around the bar scene. Hell at my high school back in the day I remember two football players straight up box each other and one got hit just right (not sucker punch) and instantly dropped to the ground and had a seizure. It's also idiotic to only measure severity by death...again google CTEs

I've been in 100 fist fights and nobodies gotten seriously injured. just knocked out a few momentarily.. how many guys have you pile drived or suplexed head first into the pavement

[Bronbron23]

I've been in 100 fist fights and nobodies gotten seriously injured. just knocked out a few momentarily.. how many guys have you pile drived or suplexed head first into the pavement

Dude if you actually did get in that many fist fights then you know that wrestling and grappling will inevitably happen. It's because it's part of fighting.

[John_Connor]

Dude if you actually did get in that many fist fights then you know that wrestling and grappling will inevitably happen. It's because it's part of fighting.

ya grappling starts when the other guys getting owned and usually they just end up getting held and punched till they cover up and someone steps in. and when they try taking me down I punch them in the back of the head or just lean on them. I've been forced to put guys in guillotines cause they didn't wanna fight like a man and they begged me to let go or tapped out I never had to dump a guy on his head because I was upset about getting f*cked up like smaller guys do to each other. the most grabbing il ever do voluntarily is a hockey style collar grab and punch. but that's only when I'm drunk and have very little balance.

all I know is all these fights ended with both of us leaving alive and well and just a few scrapes. no skull fractures or seizures.

[Bronbron23]

ya grappling starts when the other guys getting owned and usually they just end up getting held and punched till they cover up and someone steps in. and when they try taking me down I punch them in the back of the head or just lean on them. I've been forced to put guys in guillotines cause they didn't wanna fight like a man and they begged me to let go or tapped out I never had to dump a guy on his head because I was upset about getting f*cked up like smaller guys do to each other. the most grabbing il ever do voluntarily is a hockey style collar grab and punch. but that's only when I'm drunk and have very little balance.

all I know is all these fights ended with both of us leaving alive and well and just a few scrapes. no skull fractures or seizures.

Maybe that's your experience but i really don't think that's the case in general. Pretty sure plenty of people have died or suffered serious damage from getting punched in the face. Be interesting to see if there's any data on this.

[Bronbron23]

ya grappling starts when the other guys getting owned and usually they just end up getting held and punched till they cover up and someone steps in. and when they try taking me down I punch them in the back of the head or just lean on them. I've been forced to put guys in guillotines cause they didn't wanna fight like a man and they begged me to let go or tapped out I never had to dump a guy on his head because I was upset about getting f*cked up like smaller guys do to each other. the most grabbing il ever do voluntarily is a hockey style collar grab and punch. but that's only when I'm drunk and have very little balance.

all I know is all these fights ended with both of us leaving alive and well and just a few scrapes. no skull fractures or seizures.

A quick search https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ktnv.com/news/one-punch-deaths-not-that-unusual-around-the-world%3f_amp=true

[John_Connor]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-38992393.amp


80 fatalities over 10 years from street fights ending in a one punch knockout lmao

more people die from slipping on ice

[Nanners]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeGuZHefMTk

[Bronbron23]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-38992393.amp


80 fatalities over 10 years from street fights ending in a one punch knockout lmao

more people die from slipping on ice

Maybe but that's not the comparison. Do more people die from getting slammed? Unless you have some data to back your claim up it's just opinion.

[tpols]

Watch this fight between tank abbot and frank mir. (short fight only need 1minute of attention span)


https://youtu.be/BhxCtN0-z9Q

So tank is basically an old grizzled biker brawler type with college wrestling experience but a blown out knee and loves to throw hands. Mir is a young prime athlete who specializes in submissions. Tank destroys Mir on his feet and even stifles his take down attempts and gets into full guard position on top. Mir flops like a fish out of water while on his back, gets into a 69 position on the bottom and gets an ankle submission.

:biggums:

That is avoiding a fight. Actually made me mad watching the video. Limb submissions should be illegal. You're not a tough guy because you got your ads beat for 90% of the fight and then found a little loophole to avoid any further beating. I'm surprised they don't have finger submissions. Imagine a dude grabs your finger and cranks it so hard that it renders that hand useless. Its a ***** move to avoid an honest fight.