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TheCorporation
12-19-2021, 03:41 PM
Vote for the best team in NBA History. We will have 10 rounds of this to determine the top 10 nba teams of all time according to ISH.

Candidates for #1:

1967 Sixers
1971 Bucks
1972 Lakers
1974 Bucks
1983 Sixers
1984 Celtics
1986 Celtics
1987 Lakers
1992 Bulls
1996 Bulls
2000 Lakers
2001 Lakers
2002 Kings
2007 Spurs
2008 Celtics
2013 Heat
2013 Thunder
2014 Spurs
2015 Warriors
2016 Cavaliers
2016 Warriors
2017 Warriors
2018 Warriors


Place your votes and I'll be sure to keep a tally going. No trolling.

I'll start the voting with:

2017 Golden State Warriors

expansionera
12-19-2021, 03:47 PM
2016 Warriors

Manny98
12-19-2021, 03:48 PM
17 Warriors

John_Connor
12-19-2021, 04:22 PM
Vote for the best team in NBA History. We will have 10 rounds of this to determine the top 10 nba teams of all time according to ISH.

Candidates for #1:

1967 Sixers
1971 Bucks
1972 Lakers
1974 Bucks
1983 Sixers
1984 Celtics
1986 Celtics
1987 Lakers
1992 Bulls
1996 Bulls
2000 Lakers
2001 Lakers
2002 Kings
2007 Spurs
2008 Celtics
2013 Heat
2013 Thunder
2014 Spurs
2015 Warriors
2016 Cavaliers
2016 Warriors
2017 Warriors
2018 Warriors


Place your votes and I'll be sure to keep a tally going. No trolling.

I'll start the voting with:

2017 Golden State Warriors

wrong account Steve. this is your goofball retard shit handle. post this on your lakers1987 one or something

Airupthere
12-19-2021, 04:23 PM
wrong account Steve. this is your goofball retard shit handle. post this on your lakers1987 one or something

But that one is bronsexual troll account as well

John_Connor
12-19-2021, 04:25 PM
But that one is bronsexual troll account as well

ya but it's not out of character for him to try hard with it. this corporation handle is like his pipnrodman one where he just says "why didn't kobe make the playoffs in 2013" or whatever

FilmyCogTurner
12-19-2021, 05:08 PM
1. 1996 Bulls
2. 2017 Warriors
3. 1986 Celtics

FultzNationRISE
12-19-2021, 05:40 PM
To me the measure of a team has always been how well it can perform without its best player. That’s why I cant really consider any of Lebron’s teams as “good,” even when they happen to win a title thanks to Bron’s herculean efforts.

On the other hand the 90s Bulls were incredible in terms of depth and team function, with or without their supposed best player. So I would probably lean towards a CHI team from those years as the best.

RogueBorg
12-19-2021, 05:58 PM
Vote for the best team in NBA History. We will have 10 rounds of this to determine the top 10 nba teams of all time according to ISH.

Candidates for #1:

1967 Sixers
1971 Bucks
1972 Lakers
1974 Bucks
1983 Sixers
1984 Celtics
1986 Celtics
1987 Lakers
1992 Bulls
1996 Bulls
2000 Lakers
2001 Lakers
2002 Kings
2007 Spurs
2008 Celtics
2013 Heat
2013 Thunder
2014 Spurs
2015 Warriors
2016 Cavaliers
2016 Warriors
2017 Warriors
2018 Warriors


Place your votes and I'll be sure to keep a tally going. No trolling.

I'll start the voting with:

2017 Golden State Warriors

1996 Chicago Bulls

1987_Lakers
12-19-2021, 06:11 PM
wrong account Steve. this is your goofball retard shit handle. post this on your lakers1987 one or something

What a nut job. :oldlol:

000
12-19-2021, 06:20 PM
2018 Rockets

2much_knowledge
12-19-2021, 07:38 PM
Vote for the best team in NBA History. We will have 10 rounds of this to determine the top 10 nba teams of all time according to ISH.

Candidates for #1:

1967 Sixers
1971 Bucks
1972 Lakers
1974 Bucks
1983 Sixers
1984 Celtics
1986 Celtics
1987 Lakers
1992 Bulls
1996 Bulls
2000 Lakers
2001 Lakers
2002 Kings
2007 Spurs
2008 Celtics
2013 Heat
2013 Thunder
2014 Spurs
2015 Warriors
2016 Cavaliers
2016 Warriors
2017 Warriors
2018 Warriors


Place your votes and I'll be sure to keep a tally going. No trolling.

I'll start the voting with:

2017 Golden State Warriors

Congrats on your first interesting and rational thread ever! Keep it going in 2022

TheCorporation
12-19-2021, 07:40 PM
2018 Rockets

Look I said no trolling...The 2018 Rockets were 21st in SRS all time ranking (great but not top 1 amazing) and they did not win a championship. So, are you trolling or do you really feel that the 2018 Rockets is the best team in NBA history?

TheCorporation
12-19-2021, 07:42 PM
What a nut job. :oldlol:

He needs help :lol

Voting Totals
2017 Warriors: 2x
2016 Warriors: 1x
1996 Bulls: 2x

Under review:
2018 Rockets

dankok8
12-19-2021, 07:54 PM
I'll go with the 1996 Bulls. 1st in ORtg and 1st in DRtg and just ran the regular season with 11.8 SRS and then the playoffs sweeping a 60-win Magic team and beating a 64-win +8 SRS Sonics team in 6 games despite a bad shooting series from MJ. That team really had a big margin for error.

2017 Warriors were another obvious candidate but they had a less dominant regular season (less wins, lower SRS) and didn't prove as much in the playoffs through no fault of their own. They beat the Spurs with no Kawhi and then the Cavs who had a really bad defense and probably made them look better than they were.

But still this is very subjective. There are about 10 good answers so a top 10 all-time team list doesn't mean much. 1986 Celtics, 1971 Bucks, 1972 Lakers, 1987 Lakers, 2000 Lakers, 2001 Lakers, 1997 Bulls, 1964 Celtics could all be #1 off the top of my head as well.

SouBeachTalents
12-19-2021, 08:09 PM
2017 Dubs

000
12-19-2021, 08:23 PM
Look I said no trolling...The 2018 Rockets were 21st in SRS all time ranking (great but not top 1 amazing) and they did not win a championship. So, are you trolling or do you really feel that the 2018 Rockets is the best team in NBA history?
The Rockets would have beaten the super-Warriors if not for refs. Therefore they are the best.

ELITEpower23
12-19-2021, 08:44 PM
The Rockets would have beaten the super-Warriors if not for refs. Therefore they are the best.

Might almost make sense if the Rockets were playing the 2017 Warriors or 2016 Warriors but they were playing the 2018 Warriors.

As for me, I choose the 73-win, 4 Olympian, 3 All star, 3 All NBA 2016 Warriors

000
12-19-2021, 08:52 PM
Might almost make sense if the Rockets were playing the 2017 Warriors or 2016 Warriors but they were playing the 2018 Warriors.

As for me, I choose the 73-win, 4 Olympian, 3 All star, 3 All NBA 2016 Warriors
Was there really a big difference? Same lineup after all.

The 2018 Warriors suffered a lot of injuries in the regular season (curry missed 30 games, for one). But they were healthy in the WCF while the Rockets lost CP3 for the last two games.

The 2018 Rockets were also 50-5 when Harden, CP3 and Capela played together.

1987_Lakers
12-19-2021, 08:55 PM
I don't see any team in history beating the '17 Warriors in a 7 game series.

I'll go with them.

1987_Lakers
12-19-2021, 08:57 PM
Was there really a big difference? Same lineup after all.

The 2018 Warriors suffered a lot of injuries in the regular season (curry missed 30 games, for one). But they were healthy in the WCF while the Rockets lost CP3 for the last two games.

The 2018 Rockets were also 50-5 when Harden, CP3 and Capela played together.

I feel like that Rockets team will go down as one of the more underrated teams ever as time goes on, but best ever? Lol.

colts19
12-19-2021, 08:58 PM
1986 Celtics
1967 Sixers
1996 Bulls

LBJ
12-19-2021, 08:58 PM
2016 Warriors with 73 wins clinched it.

expansionera
12-19-2021, 09:16 PM
How would you describe a player who beat the GOAT team while leading in every single statistical category?

Baller789
12-19-2021, 09:19 PM
I don't see any team in history beating the '17 Warriors in a 7 game series.

I'll go with them.

Depends on what rules. If it's the 90-2000s I would take peak Shaq and the Lakers.

Half the GSWs would foul out by halftime.

2much_knowledge
12-19-2021, 09:22 PM
1996 Bulls
1972 Lakers
1986 Celts

2much_knowledge
12-19-2021, 09:23 PM
2016 Warriors with 73 wins clinched it.

Playoff record matters too you know....

1987_Lakers
12-19-2021, 09:24 PM
I don't even have the '96 Bulls #2, I feel the '86 Celtics could take them.

TheCorporation
12-19-2021, 09:25 PM
Was there really a big difference? Same lineup after all.

The 2018 Warriors suffered a lot of injuries in the regular season (curry missed 30 games, for one). But they were healthy in the WCF while the Rockets lost CP3 for the last two games.

The 2018 Rockets were also 50-5 when Harden, CP3 and Capela played together.

So that's your choice for the greatest team in NBA history? You stand behind

"The 2018 Houston Rockets is the greatest team in NBA history." -000

Just want to make sure you stand behind this quote.

TheCorporation
12-19-2021, 09:27 PM
I don't even have the '96 Bulls #2, I feel the '86 Celtics could take them.

Agreed. 1996 Bulls are overrated for sure. If the 2016 Warriors faced the 1st round exit Sonics they win a chip too. No big deal. They had already beaten the 2016 Thunder which was leaps and bounds better than the 1996 Sonics. Weak Finals win, (MJ's MO after all)>

Round Mound
12-19-2021, 11:48 PM
1986 Celtics

francesco totti
12-19-2021, 11:51 PM
2017 Warriors

coastalmarker99
12-20-2021, 05:06 AM
1967 Sixers

RRR3
12-20-2021, 05:29 AM
Y’all are lying to yourself if you think any of these old teams have a shot against the 17 Warriors lmfao

L.Kizzle
12-20-2021, 05:30 AM
How is there not ONE 60s Celtics team in the list? You think a team that one 9 of the 10 championships in that decade would get at least a mention?

Even if they don't make the tip ten, they deserve to at least be listed.

iamgine
12-20-2021, 05:41 AM
Greatest or best?

000
12-20-2021, 05:46 AM
So that's your choice for the greatest team in NBA history? You stand behind

"The 2018 Houston Rockets is the greatest team in NBA history." -000

Just want to make sure you stand behind this quote.
Yep and I want you to put this in your thread

Honor Boost
12-21-2021, 03:49 AM
2019 Raptors
2016 Warriors
2017 Warriors
In that order

TheCorporation
12-21-2021, 04:09 AM
*UPDATE*

Voting Totals
2017 Warriors: 6x (TheCorporation, Manny98, SouBeachTalents, 1987_Lakers, francesco totti, RRR3

1996 Bulls: 4x (Filmy Cog Turner, RogueBorg, dankok8, 2much_knowledge

2016 Warriors: 3x (expansion era, ElitePower23, LBJ)

1986 Celtics: 2x (colt19, Round Mound)

1967 Sixers: 1x (coastalmarker99)

Under review:
2018 Rockets: 1x (000)
2019 Raptors: 1x (Honor Boost)

Magic Is Magic
12-21-2021, 04:53 PM
How is there not ONE 60s Celtics team in the list? You think a team that one 9 of the 10 championships in that decade would get at least a mention?

Even if they don't make the tip ten, they deserve to at least be listed.

I would add the 1965 Boston Celtics to the list but I get the feeling that a lot of internet fans do not appreciate the older teams as much so its hard to create headway. I know everyone wants me to cast voting for the 2017 Warriors but I'm going to stick with my instincts that "You can't teach size" and vote for the 1987 Lakers.

The 1987 Lakers powered through the entire playoffs with only three losses (matching the Bulls 1996 playoff run) and for both the 1987 Lakers and 1996 Bulls 2 of their losses came in the Finals. Side Bar: The 1987 Lakers two losses came against an all-time great 1987 Celtics, not against a mediocre 1996 Sonics team. The team was headlined by Magic since Kareem was getting older but Worthy was really coming into his own and the Lakers were a balanced attack with six teammates scoring 11 or more ppg in the Finals. The Cap's 7'2 size will be too much for the 2017 Warriors small ball lineup with Magic threading the needle to him and Worthy.

SouBeachTalents
12-21-2021, 05:00 PM
I would add the 1965 Boston Celtics to the list but I get the feeling that a lot of internet fans do not appreciate the older teams as much so its hard to create headway. I know everyone wants me to cast voting for the 2017 Warriors but I'm going to stick with my instincts that "You can't teach size" and vote for the 1987 Lakers.

The 1987 Lakers powered through the entire playoffs with only three losses (matching the Bulls 1996 playoff run) and for both the 1987 Lakers and 1996 Bulls 2 of their losses came in the Finals. Side Bar: The 1987 Lakers two losses came against an all-time great 1987 Celtics, not against a mediocre 1996 Sonics team. The team was headlined by Magic since Kareem was getting older but Worthy was really coming into his own and the Lakers were a balanced attack with six teammates scoring 11 or more ppg in the Finals. The Cap's 7'2 size will be too much for the 2017 Warriors small ball lineup with Magic threading the needle to him and Worthy.
1987 Lakers playoff competition

37-45 Nuggets
42-40 Warriors
39-43 Sonics

Crazy that they only lost 1 game against that gauntlet.

zeerghit
12-21-2021, 05:05 PM
1996 Bulls

Johnny32
12-21-2021, 05:12 PM
2017 gsw.

Johnny32
12-21-2021, 05:15 PM
To me the measure of a team has always been how well it can perform without its best player. That’s why I cant really consider any of Lebron’s teams as “good,” even when they happen to win a title thanks to Bron’s herculean efforts.

On the other hand the 90s Bulls were incredible in terms of depth and team function, with or without their supposed best player. So I would probably lean towards a CHI team from those years as the best.

lol we saw the 17 warriors without their best player in 16...they won 73 games.

000
12-21-2021, 05:28 PM
1987 Lakers playoff competition

37-45 Nuggets
42-40 Warriors
39-43 Sonics

Crazy that they only lost 1 game against that gauntlet.
:lol

TheCorporation
12-21-2021, 06:42 PM
Thanks for all the voting so far fellas, let's keep it coming!

*UPDATE*

Voting Totals
2017 Warriors: 7x
(TheCorporation, Manny98, SouBeachTalents, 1987_Lakers, francesco totti, RRR3, Johnny32)

1996 Bulls: 5x
(Filmy Cog Turner, RogueBorg, dankok8, 2much_knowledge, zeerghit)

2016 Warriors: 3x
(expansion era, ElitePower23, LBJ)

1986 Celtics: 2x
(colt19, Round Mound)

1967 Sixers: 1x
(coastalmarker99)

1987 Lakers: 1x
(Magic Is Magic)

Under review:
2018 Rockets: 1x (000)
2019 Raptors: 1x (Honor Boost)

mr4speed
12-21-2021, 08:48 PM
Vote for the best team in NBA History. We will have 10 rounds of this to determine the top 10 nba teams of all time according to ISH.

Candidates for #1:

1967 Sixers
1971 Bucks
1972 Lakers
1974 Bucks
1983 Sixers
1984 Celtics
1986 Celtics
1987 Lakers
1992 Bulls
1996 Bulls
2000 Lakers
2001 Lakers
2002 Kings
2007 Spurs
2008 Celtics
2013 Heat
2013 Thunder
2014 Spurs
2015 Warriors
2016 Cavaliers
2016 Warriors
2017 Warriors
2018 Warriors


Place your votes and I'll be sure to keep a tally going. No trolling.

I'll start the voting with:

2017 Golden State Warriors

I am a prisoner of the 80's so I have to vote for the 86 Celtics. The ball movement and passing on that team was beautiful to watch.

DevBooker'sMask
12-21-2021, 08:49 PM
17' gsw warriors

the mesiah
12-21-2021, 09:37 PM
As much as I want to go with a mid 80’s Lakers squad , I’ll take the 96 Bulls team to be my #1 team.They had proven killer instinct/clutch factor offensively with Jordan and 3 All Time perimeter shutdown defenders in MJ/Pip/Worm or if needed Worm down low to cover the best big any other team would have .

theman93
12-21-2021, 09:58 PM
1996 Bulls

jlip
12-21-2021, 10:34 PM
2017 Warriors
1986 Celtics
1967 Sixers
It is actually debatable as to whether the 1996 Bulls were better than the 1992 Bulls.

Wally450
12-21-2021, 10:44 PM
2017 Warriors.

No_Control
12-21-2021, 10:51 PM
96 Bulls for me

iamgine
12-21-2021, 11:01 PM
Is it greatest or best team?

If it's best then yea 2017 Warriors. They're not the greatest though. And I bet 2016 and 2018 Warriors would also beat any team in history. Heck, even the 2016 & 2017 Spurs would beat most teams in history.

If it's greatest then there are more factors at play depending how you measure greatness. Like the 1975 Warriors can be said to be the greatest championship ever because of the circumstances. Or how about '66 Celtics winning an 8-peat?

SouBeachTalents
12-21-2021, 11:06 PM
Is it greatest or best team?

If it's best then yea 2017 Warriors. They're not the greatest though. And I bet 2016 and 2018 Warriors would also beat any team in history. Heck, even the 2016 & 2017 Spurs would beat most teams in history.

If it's greatest then there are more factors at play depending how you measure greatness. Like the 1975 Warriors can be said to be the greatest championship ever because of the circumstances. Or how about '66 Celtics winning an 8-peat?
That's some of the dumbest shit I've read on here in a while :lol

iamgine
12-22-2021, 12:09 AM
That's some of the dumbest shit I've read on here in a while :lol

as in, they overcame the most.

TheCorporation
12-22-2021, 12:46 AM
Leaving this open for a day or two, getting close though.

**UPDATE**

Voting Totals
2017 Warriors: 11x
(TheCorporation, Manny98, SouBeachTalents, 1987_Lakers, francesco totti, RRR3, Johnny32, DevBooker'sMask, jlip, Wally450, iamgine)

1996 Bulls: 7x
(Filmy Cog Turner, RogueBorg, dankok8, 2much_knowledge, zeerghit, the mesiah, No_Control )

2016 Warriors: 3x
(expansion era, ElitePower23, LBJ)

1986 Celtics: 3x
(colt19, Round Mound, mr4speed)

1967 Sixers: 1x
(coastalmarker99)

1987 Lakers: 1x
(Magic Is Magic)

2018 Rockets: 1x
(000)

2019 Raptors: 1x
(Honor Boost)

Gougou
12-22-2021, 01:32 AM
Aww no 2013 Heat? 27 win streak, beats Spurs (But if Allen shot missed...)

97 bulls
12-22-2021, 02:01 AM
96 Bulls

TheCorporation
12-22-2021, 02:02 AM
Aww no 2013 Heat? 27 win streak, beats Spurs (But if Allen shot missed...)

You can vote for them. I created a starting template so that people don't forget the all-time great older teams and to keep this from being a troll thread. So far, so good! What's your vote?

ClipperRevival
12-22-2021, 02:12 AM
1987 Lakers

Peak Magic, Worthy and Scott. Still very serviceable KAJ. Cooper with the D. Thompson and Green are very solid bigs.

This team had the athleticism to run all day or slow down to a crawl in the half court with KAJ, Magic and Worthy. Shooters in Scott and Coop.

1987_Lakers
12-22-2021, 02:24 AM
1987 Lakers

Peak Magic, Worthy and Scott. Still very serviceable KAJ. Cooper with the D. Thompson and Green are very solid bigs.

This team had the athleticism to run all day or slow down to a crawl in the half court with KAJ, Magic and Worthy. Shooters in Scott and Coop.

You mean Mychal Thompson

ClipperRevival
12-22-2021, 02:25 AM
I can also see the argument for the 1986 Celtics but I think they were too one dimensional with too much size and not enough wing, athleticism. In the wrong era, they could be exploited. I think to be the GOAT team, you should be able to play in any era and rules. Hence the reason why I say 1987 Lakers.

Ditto for the 1996 Bulls. Off the charts wing athleticism but would get exploited somewhat against a dominant front line. Rodman could D and Longley was a solid big but don't know if that's enough.

1987_Lakers
12-22-2021, 02:33 AM
I can also see the argument for the 1986 Celtics but I think they were too one dimensional with too much size and not enough wing, athleticism. In the wrong era, they could be exploited. I think to be the GOAT team, you should be able to play in any era and rules. Hence the reason why I say 1987 Lakers.

Ditto for the 1996 Bulls. Off the charts wing athleticism but would get exploited somewhat against a dominant front line. Rodman could D and Longley was a solid big but don't know if that's enough.

That's fair, the '86 Celtics didn't blow you away with athleticism, DJ & Ainge was a solid backcourt, but I can see quicker guards giving them trouble in today's league, Ainge was an underrated athlete though. I wouldn't call them one-dimensional, they had the greatest front court ever, all-time great passing, had nice shooters in Ainge, Wedman, & Sichting and also the #1 defense in the NBA.

'87 Lakers had a legendary offense and have to be in at least in consideration for best ever, Magic, Worthy, & even an aging Kareem were all big time players, Cooper to me gets overlooked by some guys today, great defender who could also play some PG if asked too, Scott on the other hand was inconsistent as hell, he could have games where he looks like an All-Star SG, but in many of those Finals games vs Boston he usually shit the bed, he was one-dimensional, although I can't deny he fit in that team very well.

ClipperRevival
12-22-2021, 02:36 AM
You mean Mychal Thompson

Two separate sentences:

Cooper with the D.

Thompson and Green are very solid bigs.

1987_Lakers
12-22-2021, 02:39 AM
Two separate sentences:

Cooper with the D.

Thompson and Green are very solid bigs.

Got it, we almost traded Worthy for Mark Aguirre that off-season after what happened in '86, luckily we kept Worthy and traded for a serviceable backup like Thompson mid-season instead.

John8204
12-22-2021, 03:01 AM
Why didn't the 89' Pistons not make the list? Also likely have the 73' Knicks in the top ten as well.

97 bulls
12-22-2021, 03:28 AM
I can also see the argument for the 1986 Celtics but I think they were too one dimensional with too much size and not enough wing, athleticism. In the wrong era, they could be exploited. I think to be the GOAT team, you should be able to play in any era and rules. Hence the reason why I say 1987 Lakers.

Ditto for the 1996 Bulls. Off the charts wing athleticism but would get exploited somewhat against a dominant front line. Rodman could D and Longley was a solid big but don't know if that's enough.

The Bulls beat the Magic with Shaq, Ewing's Knicks, Mourning and the Heat, Webber and Howard, Daughty and the Cavs. They never had a problem with dominant front lines.

the mesiah
12-22-2021, 11:50 AM
1987 Lakers

Peak Magic, Worthy and Scott. Still very serviceable KAJ. Cooper with the D. Thompson and Green are very solid bigs.

This team had the athleticism to run all day or slow down to a crawl in the half court with KAJ, Magic and Worthy. Shooters in Scott and Coop.



That is the team that I was going to say if not the 96 Bulls , they could play any style .They got the ultra athletic athletes to play in a Track meet or slow it down and grind it out.Court generalship and IQ of Earvin would be 2nd to none against anyone that ‘87 year.

Gudo
12-22-2021, 11:51 AM
96 bulls
17 warriors/86 celtics

Wowzers
12-22-2021, 12:07 PM
'17 Warriors.

Ryoka Narusawa
12-22-2021, 12:09 PM
17' golden state dubs

ClipperRevival
12-22-2021, 01:43 PM
The Bulls beat the Magic with Shaq, Ewing's Knicks, Mourning and the Heat, Webber and Howard, Daughty and the Cavs. They never had a problem with dominant front lines.

Yup, they are kind of unique in that their talents probably translates better in today's era but they succeeded in a more physical, big man oriented era. I mean they could throw out small ball lineups like Harp, MJ, Pip, Rod and Kukoc or switch Harp with Kerr for more shooting. They matched up so well against the 2017 Warriors.

L.Kizzle
12-22-2021, 02:42 PM
Just a question. Why are the 15, 16, 17 and 18 Warriors on the board? They're essentially the same team sans KD. I'm fine with one KD version and one pre KD version. But four teams back to back.

No 95 Rockets tho
No Bad Boys Pistons of 89?

SouBeachTalents
12-22-2021, 02:47 PM
Just a question. Why are the 15, 16, 17 and 18 Warriors on the board? They're essentially the same team sans KD. I'm fine with one KD version and one pre KD version. But four teams back to back.

No 95 Rockets tho
No Bad Boys Pistons of 89?
Why are you under the impression a team that won 47 games and lost 7 times in the playoffs would be in contention for GOAT team?

L.Kizzle
12-22-2021, 02:57 PM
Why are you under the impression a team that won 47 games and lost 7 times in the playoffs would be in contention for GOAT team?

Because they beat the teams with the 4 best records in the league that year? All 60+ win teams I believe and a top 10-15 player of all time at that beat 4 top 20-25 players as well.

L.Kizzle
12-22-2021, 03:21 PM
Why are you under the impression a team that won 47 games and lost 7 times in the playoffs would be in contention for GOAT team?
Rockets beat Jazz round 1 (Stockton & Malone 1st team that season)
Beat Suns round 2 (Barkley 2nd team, Thunder Dan All-Star)
Beat Spurs round 3 (Robinson 1st team, Rodman 3rd team)
Sweep Magic Finals (Shaq 2nd team, Penny 1st team)

SouBeachTalents
12-22-2021, 03:31 PM
By that rationale the 2011 Mavs would have nearly as strong of an argument, as they beat roughly half the All-NBA selections from that season. But in regards to the Rockets, I personally think it’d be absurd to put a team that lost 40% of it’s total games and faced elimination 5 times in the playoffs in the GOAT team convo. That’d frankly be an insult to the teams that dominated the regular season and/or playoffs, which the Rockets did neither.

L.Kizzle
12-22-2021, 03:47 PM
By that rationale the 2011 Mavs would have nearly as strong of an argument, as they beat roughly half the All-NBA selections from that season. But in regards to the Rockets, I personally think it’d be absurd to put a team that lost 40% of it’s total games and faced elimination 5 times in the playoffs in the GOAT team convo. That’d frankly be an insult to the teams that dominated the regular season and/or playoffs, which the Rockets did neither.
But who did those teams beat to get to the title tho? Someone mentioned the 87 Lakers. They beat two teams under 500 to win the title.
Rockets went up against MVP Robinson, the scoring leader, the rebounding leaders, the assist leader and all that on the way to the title.

1987_Lakers
12-22-2021, 04:25 PM
But who did those teams beat to get to the title tho? Someone mentioned the 87 Lakers. They beat two teams under 500 to win the title.
Rockets went up against MVP Robinson, the scoring leader, the rebounding leaders, the assist leader and all that on the way to the title.

We know the Lakers played a weak West throughout the 80's, the only time they went up against decent competition in their own conference was a year later in '88 when they beat Malone/Stockton in the WCSF & an ultra talented Mavs team in the WCF. What the Lakers did in beating the Celtics, Sixers, & Pistons throughout the 80's proved they were a great team.

And lets be honest, at a certain point we have to acknowledge what type of roster a team has, the Rockets for example had a peak Hakeem and a legit #2 guy in Drexler, but the rest of that roster was unimpressive to say the least. You basically have Horry, Smith, Elie, & Cassell as your #3-#6 guys, those were all solid players, but if you compare that roster to other great past teams they are very underwhelming. You really gonna compare that Rockets roster to Magic, Worthy, Kareem, Cooper, Scott, Green etc and say they belong in the same conversation? I don't think so.

SouBeachTalents
12-22-2021, 04:32 PM
We know the Lakers played a weak West throughout the 80's, the only time they went up against decent competition in their own conference was a year later in '88 when they beat Malone/Stockton in the WCSF & an ultra talented Mavs team in the WCF. What the Lakers did in beating the Celtics, Sixers, & Pistons throughout the 80's proved they were a great team.

And lets be honest, at a certain point we have to acknowledge what type of roster a team has, the Rockets for example had a peak Hakeem and a legit #2 guy in Drexler, but the rest of that roster was unimpressive to say the least. You basically have Horry, Smith, Elie, & Cassell as your #3-#6 guys, those were all solid players, but if you compare that roster to other great past teams they are very underwhelming. You really gonna compare that Rockets roster to Magic, Worthy, Kareem, Cooper, Scott, Green etc and say they belong in the same conversation? I don't think so.
Results matter too. We’re talking about a 6 seed who trailed 2-1 & 3-1 in the first 2 rounds of the playoffs. And we can focus everything on competition, but the facts are literally none of the teams they beat ever won a title.

L.Kizzle
12-22-2021, 04:34 PM
We know the Lakers played a weak West throughout the 80's, the only time they went up against decent competition in their own conference was a year later in '88 when they beat Malone/Stockton in the WCSF & an ultra talented Mavs team in the WCF. What the Lakers did in beating the Celtics, Sixers, & Pistons throughout the 80's proved they were a great team.

And lets be honest, at a certain point we have to acknowledge what type of roster a team has, the Rockets for example had a peak Hakeem and a legit #2 guy in Drexler, but the rest of that roster was unimpressive to say the least. You basically have Horry, Smith, Elie, & Cassell as your #3-#6 guys, those were all solid players, but if you compare that roster to other great past teams they are very underwhelming. You really gonna compare that Rockets roster to Magic, Worthy, Kareem, Cooper, Scott, Green etc and say they belong in the same conversation? I don't think so.
Well, if they could beat them why not compare them?
Hakeem and Sampson beat those same guys you literally just mentioned in 86, so why couldn't a more seasoned Hakeem and Clyde in place of Sampson do the same?

L.Kizzle
12-22-2021, 04:35 PM
Results matter too. We’re talking about a 6 seed who trailed 2-1 & 3-1 in the first 2 rounds of the playoffs. And we can focus everything on competition, but the facts are literally none of the teams they beat ever won a title.
So, a team with their backs against the wall and comes out on top. I'd take a team who faces adversity vs a team who has a cakewalk to a championship.

1987_Lakers
12-22-2021, 04:46 PM
Well, if they could beat them why not compare them?
Hakeem and Sampson beat those same guys you literally just mentioned in 86, so why couldn't a more seasoned Hakeem and Clyde in place of Sampson do the same?

You can't be serous, the only player on the Rockets that was both on the '86 & '95 team was Hakeem.

L.Kizzle
12-22-2021, 04:53 PM
You can't be serous, the only player on the Rockets that was both on the '86 & '95 team was Hakeem.
I think you misunderstood me. I'm saying if the 86 Rocket's can best Magic, Kareem, Worthy, Green, Scott and those guys why can't Hakeem and Clyde?

1987_Lakers
12-22-2021, 05:05 PM
I think you misunderstood me. I'm saying if the 86 Rocket's can best Magic, Kareem, Worthy, Green, Scott and those guys why can't Hakeem and Clyde?

Because the '86 Rockets with Sampson are a bigger matchup nightmare for LA. With the Twin Towers, the Lakers had nobody to guard them, Hakeem & Sampson took turns in torching Kareem & the Lakers didn't have another big man to help out. Rockets also beat up the Lakers on the boards, while the '95 Rockets were a much weaker rebounding team.

L.Kizzle
12-22-2021, 05:17 PM
Because the '86 Rockets with Sampson are a bigger matchup nightmare for LA. With the Twin Towers, the Lakers had nobody to guard them, Hakeem & Sampson took turns in torching Kareem & the Lakers didn't have another big man to help out. Rockets also beat up the Lakers on the boards, while the '95 Rockets were a much weaker rebounding team.
The Rockets weakness was the inside minus Hakeem (in 95.) Otis Thorpe was a severely underrated player for Houston in 94. So much the Rockets players resented Clyde at first.
Horry was a 3 moving to the 4 when Clyde came over.

1987_Lakers
12-23-2021, 09:22 PM
we moving on to #2?

TheCorporation
12-23-2021, 09:25 PM
#1 Greatest team in NBA History: 2017 Warriors

Voting Totals

2017 Warriors: 13x
(TheCorporation, Manny98, SouBeachTalents, 1987_Lakers, francesco totti, RRR3, Johnny32, DevBooker'sMask, jlip, Wally450, iamgine, Wowzers, Ryoka Narusawa)

1996 Bulls: 9x
(Filmy Cog Turner, RogueBorg, dankok8, 2much_knowledge, zeerghit, the mesiah, No_Control, 97 bulls, Gudo)

2016 Warriors: 3x
(expansion era, ElitePower23, LBJ)

1986 Celtics: 3x
(colt19, Round Mound, mr4speed)

1967 Sixers: 1x
(coastalmarker99)

1987 Lakers: 2x
(Magic Is Magic, ClipperRevival)

2018 Rockets: 1x
(000)

2019 Raptors: 1x
(Honor Boost)

Moving on to #2 now