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FultzNationRISE
12-19-2021, 06:18 PM
Yall quit throwin dirt on a King’s good name.
Before I get upset :mad:
Magic/Lebron needed super-teams yet they're losers in Finals (9-10), so...
if the best ball-dominators can't win, then it's an inferior strategy
Accordingly, the historical failure of ball-domination confirms that your best player shouldn't engage in something as simple as initiating a possession - lesser teammates can do that, while the best players should be CLOSING possessions as needed.
Closers spend time as assist targets (off-ball), which faciliates ball movement and elevates teammate role to playmaker - the enhanced ball movement wears out defenses so they have less capacity for offense.. Indeed, closers win the attrition battle by wearing out the opponent and knocking them out at the end.
Full Court
12-19-2021, 08:54 PM
Yall quit throwin dirt on a King’s good name.
Before I get upset :mad:
Just imagine how terrible Lebum's reputation would be if you weren't there to white knight for him.
TheGoatest
12-19-2021, 09:07 PM
Haters seriously think they have convinced themselves that this shit right here was a "Super Team":
https://images4.imagebam.com/d7/ea/de/ME5P9RH_o.png
Sidenote: This "Super Team" was 4-23 in the 27 games LeBron missed between 2014 and 2018. Nothing says "Super Team" like a 4-23 record without one single player. :oldlol:
3ba11
12-19-2021, 09:20 PM
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Historical Record
Heading into the 2015 season, Klay/Dray hadn't been all-stars yet, while Kyrie/Love were already perennial all-stars.
Accordingly, the 15' Cavs were the on-paper preseason favorite (talent favorite), but inferior strategy/ball-dominant brand made them underdogs to the upstart Warriors as the season progressed.
This is standard for Lebron - his weak brand turned the on-paper talent favorite (preseason favorite) into the underdog or loser every year in the Finals (2011-2016).
Heading into 2016, the Cavs were once again the on-paper preseason favorite, but fell to underdog again heading into the Finals.. Fortunately, the goat clutch winner and goat difference-maker Kyrie was healthy and put the Cavs over the top compared to 2015 when they lost without him.. And Kyrie was an equal-scoring partner to attract equal defensive attention, so Lebron never defeated maximum defensive attention/max burden like Jordan did in every Finals (6 carry-jobs).
1987_Lakers
12-19-2021, 09:21 PM
Historical fact. Pippen had more success as a 1st option than AD & Kyrie. :lol
TheCorporation
12-19-2021, 09:29 PM
Haters seriously think they have convinced themselves that this shit right here was a "Super Team":
https://images4.imagebam.com/d7/ea/de/ME5P9RH_o.png
Sidenote: This "Super Team" was 4-23 in the 27 games LeBron missed between 2014 and 2018. Nothing says "Super Team" like a 4-23 record without one single player. :oldlol:
LOCK IT UP. IT'S OVA--BANG!! :lol
warriorfan
12-19-2021, 09:35 PM
Haters seriously think they have convinced themselves that this shit right here was a "Super Team":
https://images4.imagebam.com/d7/ea/de/ME5P9RH_o.png
Sidenote: This "Super Team" was 4-23 in the 27 games LeBron missed between 2014 and 2018. Nothing says "Super Team" like a 4-23 record without one single player. :oldlol:
Asterisk ring. Curry was injured. Not to mention LeBron called Adam Silver after the game when they were down 3-1 and got him to retroactively upgrade Draymond’s foul to get him suspended.
TheCorporation
12-19-2021, 09:37 PM
Asterisk ring. Curry was injured. Not to mention LeBron called Adam Silver after the game when they were down 3-1 and got him to retroactively upgrade Draymond’s foul to get him suspended.
Nope.
https://i.postimg.cc/3x8SyjDD/2016-curry-playoffs-revise.png
warriorfan
12-19-2021, 09:38 PM
Nope.
https://i.postimg.cc/3x8SyjDD/2016-curry-playoffs-revise.png
You don’t know ball
1987_Lakers
12-19-2021, 09:38 PM
Asterisk ring. Curry was injured. Not to mention LeBron called Adam Silver after the game when they were down 3-1 and got him to retroactively upgrade Draymond’s foul to get him suspended.
Doesn't that make 2015 a asterisk ring since Kyrie & Love were out?
And Curry sure looked good vs OKC only to get locked up by LeClamp.
https://c.tenor.com/eqqKFAj45RcAAAAC/le-bron-curry.gif
TheGoatest
12-19-2021, 09:42 PM
Asterisk ring. Curry was injured. Not to mention LeBron called Adam Silver after the game when they were down 3-1 and got him to retroactively upgrade Draymond’s foul to get him suspended.
"Injured" Curry doing 360 alley-oop to himself warm up dunks pre-game 5 of the 2016 finals, when all was good and he thought he would be holding the NBA/Finals MVP trophy a couple of hours later:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FoxxMN8gNA
warriorfan
12-19-2021, 09:44 PM
Doesn't that make 2015 a asterisk ring since Kyrie & Love were out?
And Curry sure looked good vs OKC only to get locked up by LeClamp.
https://c.tenor.com/eqqKFAj45RcAAAAC/le-bron-curry.gif
Here’s another midget who doesn’t know ball :lol
warriorfan
12-19-2021, 09:45 PM
"Injured" Curry doing 360 alley-oop to himself warm up dunks pre-game 5 of the 2016 finals, when all was good and he thought he would be holding the NBA/Finals MVP trophy a couple of hours later:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FoxxMN8gNA
360 dunk in practice isn’t the same as a real game
sit down midget
3ba11
12-19-2021, 09:45 PM
:facepalm:
1987_Lakers
12-19-2021, 09:46 PM
:cry:
LOL
warriorfan
12-19-2021, 09:47 PM
Projecting. You are the midget beaner who came in here crying when I brought up how curry had a significant MCL injury during those playoffs. :lol
1987_Lakers
12-19-2021, 09:48 PM
Nope.
https://i.postimg.cc/3x8SyjDD/2016-curry-playoffs-revise.png
From MVP to under-performing in the Finals like he always does.
3ba11
12-19-2021, 09:50 PM
Historical fact. Pippen had more success as a 1st option than AD & Kyrie. :lol
Wrong.
because 1st options are expected to grow the franchise every year.. Kyrie did this upon joining the Cavs by making a lottery cast just attractive enough for your goat to give it another try in Cleveland.
Otoh, Pippen was handed the keys to a 3-peat dynasty and was borderline lottery within 18 months before MJ came back in 95'.. So unlike Kyrie who built a franchise up each year like a good 1st option is supposed to do, Pippen proved to be a crappy 1st option by quickly destroying a franchise.. Btw, we saw AD turn the lottery Lakers into champions in 1 year as 1st option.
Ultimately, Pippen's scoring ability was flow scoring and transition (no defensive attention needed), which was insufficient to be 1st option on a good team - a team can't be good if everyone on the team was a worse scorer than Pippen, hence the collapse in the 94' Playoffs or 95' regular season after the initial honeymoon and surprise factor was over - 95' was the REAL bulls without MJ (near lottery and cratering fast) before he returned.
Fortunately, Kukoc was probably a better scorer overall than Pippen (1st option when it mattered), so that actually kept the Bulls afloat in the regular season and playoffs where he was the BPM leader and 2nd in WS/48 ahead of Pippen.
TheCorporation
12-19-2021, 09:55 PM
From MVP to under-performing in the Finals like he always does.
Bingo. WelfareFan goes silent once again. Leashed up like always.
Welfare Fan, response?
https://i.postimg.cc/3x8SyjDD/2016-curry-playoffs-revise.png
1987_Lakers
12-19-2021, 09:57 PM
Projecting. You are the midget beaner who came in here crying when I brought up how curry had a significant MCL injury during those playoffs. :lol
Want to know what projecting is? Making a thread in the middle of the night about RRR3 hours after LeBron hit a game winner over Curry to make you feel better about yourself. Pathetic.
TheCorporation
12-19-2021, 09:59 PM
Want to know what projecting is? Making a thread in the middle of the night about RRR3 hours after LeBron hit a game winner over Curry to make you feel better about yourself. Pathetic.
Yikes :lol
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/lebron-james-celebrates-dagger-over-steph-curry-one-word-instagram
"It's a great shot," Curry said. "Broken play. I sunk in thinking he was kind of out of the play and they found him. He got his balance just in time and knocked it down. That was a tough one because you don't really expect it to go in.
"You expect us to get the rebound, come down in transition and have a possession to take the lead, but everything changes when it goes in. All-time great players make great shots. That's what happens."
warriorfan
12-19-2021, 10:04 PM
Want to know what projecting is? Making a thread in the middle of the night about RRR3 hours after LeBron hit a game winner over Curry to make you feel better about yourself. Pathetic.
Rent free midget
1987_Lakers
12-19-2021, 10:05 PM
Rent free midget
Meltdown
TheCorporation
12-19-2021, 10:07 PM
Rent free midget
How's your bike fakkit?
https://i.postimg.cc/nzTKNS8t/ashy_bike_boy.png
1987_Lakers
12-19-2021, 10:08 PM
How's your bike fakkit?
https://i.postimg.cc/nzTKNS8t/ashy_bike_boy.png
Holy shit.
:roll:
TheCorporation
12-19-2021, 10:12 PM
Holy shit.
:roll:
What a little bitch he is. WelfareFan was the real "Wheels" all along :roll:
TheGoatest
12-19-2021, 11:37 PM
360 dunk in practice isn’t the same as a real game
sit down midget
You're damn right it's not the same: The fact that he was doing such potentially muscle-straining plays during warm-ups and wasn't saving his body for the game as much as he could proves that he wasn't really injured even more.
kawhileonard2
12-19-2021, 11:40 PM
Lebron lost with Shaq and Tim Duncan
How's your bike fakkit?
https://i.postimg.cc/nzTKNS8t/ashy_bike_boy.png
:roll:
kawhileonard2
01-07-2022, 12:20 AM
Yall quit throwin dirt on a King’s good name.
Before I get upset :mad:
Lebron won bronze medal with peak Duncan. He lost in round 2 with prime Shaq.
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