Lebron is the GOAT! ...of turnovers

[nineiron]

LMFAO:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Basketball_Association_career_tur novers_leaders

how does a SF lead the NBA all time for turnovers? you have to have some extremely low bball IQ to lead the NBA all time in turnovers as a forward. LMFAO

[3ba11]

Lebron = Westbrook except a taller version, so his efficiency fools people into thinking he's "smarter", but he's still employing the same ball-dominant skillset that reduces teammates to spot-up roles and prevents the best strategy (ball-movenent), thus yielding lower team ceilings/Finals records.

[TheMan]

LMFAO:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Basketball_Association_career_tur novers_leaders

how does a SF lead the NBA all time for turnovers? you have to have some extremely low bball IQ to lead the NBA all time in turnovers as a forward. LMFAO

The Le******s will explain it as that it's only because he's played for so many years though but will try to cite total career points as proof of his GOAT status and totally ignore that he'll end up playing more seasons than any other all time great :milton

The mental gymnastics it takes to be a fan of LeFraud :(

[3ba11]

The Le******s will explain it as that it's only because he's played for so many years though but qill try to glorify total career points as proof of his GOAT and totally ignore that he'll end up playing seasons more than any other all time great :milton: The mental gymnastics it takes to be a fan of LeFraud :(


Exactly, but they're ignoring that Lebron is top 5 in turnovers every year and within 0.5 of Westbrook every year.

So the reason Lebron is #1 in turnovers is because of his high turnovers per game coupled with longevity.

[Gudo]

The LeSlurpers will say it's the fault of all his teammates :oldlol:

[John8204]

The Le******s will explain it as that it's only because he's played for so many years though but will try to cite total career points as proof of his GOAT status and totally ignore that he'll end up playing more seasons than any other all time great :milton


The best ability is availability also turnovers are not a bad stat...look at the QB rates
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_int_career.htm

The guys that really stand out on that list are Thomas and Westbrook who are top ten in what half the games of Lebron.

[AlternativeAcc.]

He's played almost every game for 20 straight years

The fact he just now became the to leader is quite amazing, considering his high inlovment in the offense and passing game

[Hey Yo]

The Le******s will explain it as that it's only because he's played for so many years though but will try to cite total career points as proof of his GOAT status and totally ignore that he'll end up playing more seasons than any other all time great :milton

The mental gymnastics it takes to be a fan of LeFraud :(

Nacho Man allowed to post while picking strawberries???

[ShawkFactory]

This dumbass posted the the wiki list instead of reference :lol

[aj1987]

This dumbass posted the the wiki list instead of reference :lol

:roll: :roll:


He said WB is a better defender than LeBron in a thread.

[TheCorporation]

OP was today years old when he learned about Assist to Turnover ratio.

https://i.postimg.cc/3J0764Q4/AST-2-TO.jpg

[AlternativeAcc.]

OP was today years old when he learned about Assist to Turnover ratio.

https://i.postimg.cc/3J0764Q4/AST-2-TO.jpg

Shut it down let's go home...


Thats what the kids are saying right? :lol


Anyways, what a thread ender.

[TheCorporation]

Shut it down let's go home...


Thats what the kids are saying right? :lol


Anyways, what a thread ender.

IT'S

A

WRAP

:dancin

[TheMan]

Nacho Man allowed to post while picking strawberries???

I'm on my break, fakkit...and it's lettuce, bruh.

Then it's off to my taco stand, right BigKobeFan :pimp:

[expansionera]

OP was today years old when he learned about Assist to Turnover ratio.

https://i.postimg.cc/3J0764Q4/AST-2-TO.jpg

Not to mention Lebron is amongst elite company such as John Stockton and Jason Kidd (the greatest floor generals in history) in turnovers per game and will end his career in top 5 assist.

Lebron’s heavy turnover rate is a result of his playmaking ability, whereas Westbrook has accumulated nearly as many turnovers within a much shorter time period than twenty year vets such as Stockton, Kidd and Lebron

[aj1987]

OP was today years old when he learned about Assist to Turnover ratio.

https://i.postimg.cc/3J0764Q4/AST-2-TO.jpg

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


The cockroaches scrambled.

[Full Court]

https://bucket.trending.com/trending/reddit/2018-10-27/dos-equis-may-have-changed-their-poster-boy-but-this-legend-this-paragon-of-swagger-johnathan-goldsmith-will-always-be-the-most-man-in-the.jpg

I don't always commit turnovers, but when I do, the game is probably on the line.

[Baller789]

https://bucket.trending.com/trending/reddit/2018-10-27/dos-equis-may-have-changed-their-poster-boy-but-this-legend-this-paragon-of-swagger-johnathan-goldsmith-will-always-be-the-most-man-in-the.jpg

I don't always commit turnovers, but when I do, the game is probably on the line.

:oldlol:

[MadDog]

OP was today years old when he learned about Assist to Turnover ratio.

https://i.postimg.cc/3J0764Q4/AST-2-TO.jpg

Suddenly totals are contextualized lol. Why aren't LeBron's total points put under a microscope? :confusedshrug:

[TheGoatest]

OP was today years old when he learned about Assist to Turnover ratio.

https://i.postimg.cc/3J0764Q4/AST-2-TO.jpg

Damn...

OP's agenda = DEMOLISHED!! :roll:

It really is amazing that LeBron doesn't have way more turnovers considering his points/assists production.

[Full Court]

Lol at the Lebronies trying to say that assists somehow nullify turning the ball over.

[aj1987]

Lol at the Lebronies trying to say that assists somehow nullify turning the ball over.

Aww! Facts hurting your feelings again, huh, "coach"?

[ELITEpower23]

OP was today years old when he learned about Assist to Turnover ratio.

https://i.postimg.cc/3J0764Q4/AST-2-TO.jpg

Shut it down let's go home :oldlol:

OP ethered

[Full Court]

Aww! Facts hurting your feelings again, huh, "coach"?

The word "facts" doesn't mean what you think it means. Assists don't magically "make up" for turnovers. But hey, if in your mind they do, you just do your thing.

[BigShotBob]

Compare him to other pass first players

[ELITEpower23]

Compare him to other pass first players

If they routinely get 30 ppg sure, add them :oldlol: Tard

[BigShotBob]

If they routinely get 30 ppg sure, add them :oldlol: Tard

MJ averages more points than Lebron in the Regular Season, Playoffs, and Finals but you wanted to compare his assist/t.o. ration to a pass first player....

So Lebron is either a pass-first player, or he's not.

Thanks for playing :lol

[aj1987]

The word "facts" doesn't mean what you think it means. Assists don't magically "make up" for turnovers. But hey, if in your mind they do, you just do your thing.

"Coach" doesn't understand how ratios work. :roll: :roll:

[iamgine]

When you're #1 in assist by quite a big margin amongst elite scorers, naturally you will have high TO numbers too.

[Full Court]

"Coach" doesn't understand how ratios work. :roll: :roll:

You can make whatever meaningless ratios you want to try to feel better about your man crush being a turnover machine. Any way you slice it, turnovers are not good. It's sloppy basketball.

You can cook up a fancy points to turnovers ratio graphic too. And you know what? Lebum is STILL the all time leader in turnovers.

You could use a little "coaching".

[aj1987]

You can make whatever meaningless ratios you want to try to feel better about your man crush being a turnover machine. Any way you slice it, turnovers are not good. It's sloppy basketball.

You can cook up a fancy points to turnovers ratio graphic too. And you know what? Lebum is STILL the all time leader in turnovers.

You could use a little "coaching".

Meaningless ratios? It's elementary math, "coach".

My nephews who are in elementary school understand how ratios work.

I think you should stop pretending to be a coach on anonymous basketball message boards (on dozens of alts, nonetheless) and spend more time learning elementary math. :cheers:

[Axe]

We don't care, nigel. Go serve us our orders already.

[000]

OP was today years old when he learned about Assist to Turnover ratio.

https://i.postimg.cc/3J0764Q4/AST-2-TO.jpg

Why didn't you add Russell Westbrook?

regular season - 2.06
playoffs - 1.98
3x as many assist titles as those guys PUT TOGETHER

Bestbrook:applause:

[TheGoatest]

Why didn't you add Russell Westbrook?

regular season - 2.06
playoffs - 1.98
3x as many assist titles as those guys PUT TOGETHER

Bestbrook:applause:

Why didn't OP add Tacko Fall in his original post when pointing out turnover totals? He has HUNDREDS of times fewer turnovers than LeBron OR Jordan:

12 career turnovers
0 career playoff turnovers = perfection!
Tacko the GOAT :applause:

[000]

Why didn't OP add Tacko Fall in his original post when pointing out turnover totals? He has HUNDREDS of times fewer turnovers than LeBron OR Jordan:

12 career turnovers
0 career playoff turnovers = perfection!
Tacko the GOAT :applause:
Tacko Fall assist-to-turnover ratio:

regular season - 0.5
playoffs - 0/0

Next

[TheGoatest]

Tacko Fall assist-to-turnover ratio:

regular season - 0.5
playoffs - 0/0 = ???

Next

But according to the thread logic, the assist-to-turnover ratio doesn't matter. It's all about who has the fewer total turnovers, without taking overall numbers/totals into account.
Anyway, I also found the example of Brandin Knight:
1 career assist and 0 career turnovers

Brandin Knight the GOAT!! :banana: :applause: :rockon:

[000]

But according to the thread logic, the assist-to-turnover ratio doesn't matter. It's all about who has the fewer total turnovers, without taking overall numbers/totals into account.
Anyway, I also found the example of Brandin Knight:
1 career assist and 0 career turnovers

Brandin Knight the GOAT!! :banana: :applause: :rockon:
WTF? I'm responding to Corporation's post about ast-to-tov so I'm using ast-to-tov logic. Don't be stupid.

And are you saying leading in total stats doesn't matter? Interesting...


PS: division by zero:roll:

[TheGoatest]

WTF? I'm responding to Corporation's post about ast-to-tov so I'm using ast-to-tov logic. Don't be stupid.

PS: division by zero:roll:

You can't! His assist-to-turnover ratio is literally infinity! But the main point is that his turnover total is literally perfection!
Brandin Knight the GOAT!! :banana: :applause: :rockon:

[000]

You can't! His assist-to-turnover ratio is literally infinity! But the main point is that his turnover total is literally perfection!
Brandin Knight the GOAT!! :banana: :applause: :rockon:
No it isn't.

1/0 = x

0*x = 1

Solve for x.

[Manny98]

The Le******s will explain it as that it's only because he's played for so many years though but will try to cite total career points as proof of his GOAT status and totally ignore that he'll end up playing more seasons than any other all time great :milton

The mental gymnastics it takes to be a fan of LeFraud :(
Agreed

[TheCorporation]

Why didn't you add Russell Westbrook?

regular season - 2.06
playoffs - 1.98
3x as many assist titles as those guys PUT TOGETHER

Bestbrook:applause:

This was for elite 1st options only. Obviously. Keep up chico.

[000]

This was for elite 1st options only. Obviously. Keep up chico.
Got you making excuses:roll:

[Full Court]

Meaningless ratios? It's elementary math, "coach".

My nephews who are in elementary school understand how ratios work.

I think you should stop pretending to be a coach on anonymous basketball message boards (on dozens of alts, nonetheless) and spend more time learning elementary math. :cheers:

Wow, you are just not smart. At all. And if what you took out of my post was that I don't know how ratios work, then you lack the ability to comprehend what you read too.

Let me simplify this so maybe you can understand it. Assists do not, let me repeat, do not mitigate the sloppiness and negative effect of too many turnovers. The assist to turnover ratio is a statistic somebody came up with to make someone's propensity to turn over the ball seem not so bad.

Here's an example: Russ Westbrook is averaging 4.7 turnovers per game to Lebron James' 3.6. However, Westbrook also averages more assists per game, so there's only a .1 difference in their assist to turnover ratio, which is negligible. You're not going to tell me that Westbrook's assists make up for him being a turnover machine. High turnovers are a sign of sloppy basketball, I don't care what proportion of assists they make up.

I know this is hard for you to grasp, but if you still don't understand it, I can try to further simplify it to kindergarten level.

[Spurs m8]

Wow, you are just not smart. At all. And if what you took out of my post was that I don't know how ratios work, then you lack the ability to comprehend what you read too.

Let me simplify this so maybe you can understand it. Assists do not, let me repeat, do not mitigate the sloppiness and negative effect of too many turnovers. The assist to turnover ratio is a statistic somebody came up with to make someone's propensity to turn over the ball seem not so bad.

Here's an example: Russ Westbrook is averaging 4.7 turnovers per game to Lebron James' 3.6. However, Westbrook also averages more assists per game, so there's only a .1 difference in their assist to turnover ratio, which is negligible. You're not going to tell me that Westbrook's assists make up for him being a turnover machine. High turnovers are a sign of sloppy basketball, I don't care what proportion of assists they make up.

I know this is hard for you to grasp, but if you still don't understand it, I can try to further simplify it to kindergarten level.

Great Post

[TheCorporation]

Got you making excuses:roll:

Got you learning basketball basics at age 45. :roll:

[aj1987]

Wow, you are just not smart. At all. And if what you took out of my post was that I don't know how ratios work, then you lack the ability to comprehend what you read too.
Holy shit, you're a dense retard. The simple fact that you think players who are ATG passers AND scorers having a bit more TOV's is a bad thing (especially when the TOV to Assist ratio is not really that bad), proves how low IQ of a poster you are. Stick to spamming your troll posts and leave the basketball discussion to us.


Let me simplify this so maybe you can understand it. Assists do not, let me repeat, do not mitigate the sloppiness and negative effect of too many turnovers. The assist to turnover ratio is a statistic somebody came up with to make someone's propensity to turn over the ball seem not so bad.
Magic Johnson averaged 3.9 TOV's a game for his career. He must've ran pretty terrible and sloppy offenses, right? Dude must've been a terrible offensive player. Isaiah Thomas was at 3.8 TOV's per game. Heck, KD and Bird are at 3.1 per game (only 0.4 fewer than LeBron a game). Just because FACTS hurt your feelings, doesn't make them meaningless, kiddo.


Here's an example: Russ Westbrook is averaging 4.7 turnovers per game to Lebron James' 3.6. However, Westbrook also averages more assists per game, so there's only a .1 difference in their assist to turnover ratio, which is negligible. You're not going to tell me that Westbrook's assists make up for him being a turnover machine. High turnovers are a sign of sloppy basketball, I don't care what proportion of assists they make up.
LeBron is scoring nearly 9 points more than WB as well, dipshit. I doubt you know this, since you have the basketball (and general) intelligence of a rock, but offensive fouls count as TOV's and lost dribbles or if the ball is stolen from you while trying to score, it counts as a TOV as well.

WB is averaging 1.5 more APG and 1.1 more TOV/G than LeBron, while averaging 8.3 FEWER points than LeBron.

With all that being said, if you actually WATCH the games, you'd know that LeBron has 1-2 TOV's credited to him because players can't handle his passes. There were two of those this previous game as well. LeBron makes a prefect pass, the Laker player can't handle the pass and it goes out of bounds off of his fingers and LeBron gets the TOV. Those were good passes and still LeBron gets credited with the TOV.


I know this is hard for you to grasp, but if you still don't understand it, I can try to further simplify it to kindergarten level.I know this is hard for you to grasp, but if you still don't understand it, I definitely can't dumb it down any further. A 4 year old with downs should be able to understand all that.

[SATAN]

Holy shit, you're a dense retard. The simple fact that you think players who are ATG passers AND scorers having a bit more TOV's is a bad thing (especially when the TOV to Assist ratio is not really that bad), proves how low IQ of a poster you are. Stick to spamming your troll posts and leave the basketball discussion to us.


Magic Johnson averaged 3.9 TOV's a game for his career. He must've ran pretty terrible and sloppy offenses, right? Dude must've been a terrible offensive player. Isaiah Thomas was at 3.8 TOV's per game. Heck, KD and Bird are at 3.1 per game (only 0.4 fewer than LeBron a game). Just because FACTS hurt your feelings, doesn't make them meaningless, kiddo.


LeBron is scoring nearly 9 points more than WB as well, dipshit. I doubt you know this, since you have the basketball (and general) intelligence of a rock, but offensive fouls count as TOV's and lost dribbles or if the ball is stolen from you while trying to score, it counts as a TOV as well.

WB is averaging 1.5 more APG and 1.1 more TOV/G than LeBron, while averaging 8.3 FEWER points than LeBron.

With all that being said, if you actually WATCH the games, you'd know that LeBron has 1-2 TOV's credited to him because players can't handle his passes. There were two of those this previous game as well. LeBron makes a prefect pass, the Laker player can't handle the pass and it goes out of bounds off of his fingers and LeBron gets the TOV. Those were good passes and still LeBron gets credited with the TOV.

I know this is hard for you to grasp, but if you still don't understand it, I definitely can't dumb it down any further. A 4 year old with downs should be able to understand all that.

:applause:

Wow. Full Court obliterated.

[Full Court]

Holy shit, you're a dense retard. The simple fact that you think players who are ATG passers AND scorers having a bit more TOV's is a bad thing (especially when the TOV to Assist ratio is not really that bad), proves how low IQ of a poster you are. Stick to spamming your troll posts and leave the basketball discussion to us.


Magic Johnson averaged 3.9 TOV's a game for his career. He must've ran pretty terrible and sloppy offenses, right? Dude must've been a terrible offensive player. Isaiah Thomas was at 3.8 TOV's per game. Heck, KD and Bird are at 3.1 per game (only 0.4 fewer than LeBron a game). Just because FACTS hurt your feelings, doesn't make them meaningless, kiddo.


LeBron is scoring nearly 9 points more than WB as well, dipshit. I doubt you know this, since you have the basketball (and general) intelligence of a rock, but offensive fouls count as TOV's and lost dribbles or if the ball is stolen from you while trying to score, it counts as a TOV as well.

WB is averaging 1.5 more APG and 1.1 more TOV/G than LeBron, while averaging 8.3 FEWER points than LeBron.

With all that being said, if you actually WATCH the games, you'd know that LeBron has 1-2 TOV's credited to him because players can't handle his passes. There were two of those this previous game as well. LeBron makes a prefect pass, the Laker player can't handle the pass and it goes out of bounds off of his fingers and LeBron gets the TOV. Those were good passes and still LeBron gets credited with the TOV.

I know this is hard for you to grasp, but if you still don't understand it, I definitely can't dumb it down any further. A 4 year old with downs should be able to understand all that.

You have an abnormally undersized brain. Keep on believing in your turnover to assist ratio. I'm not going to waste time trying to explain it to you any more. You clearly are incapable of understanding simple things.

[TheCorporation]

Holy shit, you're a dense retard. The simple fact that you think players who are ATG passers AND scorers having a bit more TOV's is a bad thing (especially when the TOV to Assist ratio is not really that bad), proves how low IQ of a poster you are. Stick to spamming your troll posts and leave the basketball discussion to us.


Magic Johnson averaged 3.9 TOV's a game for his career. He must've ran pretty terrible and sloppy offenses, right? Dude must've been a terrible offensive player. Isaiah Thomas was at 3.8 TOV's per game. Heck, KD and Bird are at 3.1 per game (only 0.4 fewer than LeBron a game). Just because FACTS hurt your feelings, doesn't make them meaningless, kiddo.


LeBron is scoring nearly 9 points more than WB as well, dipshit. I doubt you know this, since you have the basketball (and general) intelligence of a rock, but offensive fouls count as TOV's and lost dribbles or if the ball is stolen from you while trying to score, it counts as a TOV as well.

WB is averaging 1.5 more APG and 1.1 more TOV/G than LeBron, while averaging 8.3 FEWER points than LeBron.

With all that being said, if you actually WATCH the games, you'd know that LeBron has 1-2 TOV's credited to him because players can't handle his passes. There were two of those this previous game as well. LeBron makes a prefect pass, the Laker player can't handle the pass and it goes out of bounds off of his fingers and LeBron gets the TOV. Those were good passes and still LeBron gets credited with the TOV.

I know this is hard for you to grasp, but if you still don't understand it, I definitely can't dumb it down any further. A 4 year old with downs should be able to understand all that.

THAT'S AN ETHER

Baaang!

[Full Court]

:applause:

Wow. Full Court obliterated.


THAT'S AN ETHER

Baaang!

Lol. Aren't you the two guys who get distraught any time someone on the internet criticizes a man who doesn't even know who you are?

Like a couple of little girls. Maybe your panties are still in a twist over Lebum getting sonned by Morant last night.

:lebroncry:

[MrFonzworth]

Lol. Aren't you the two guys who get distraught any time someone on the internet criticizes a man who doesn't even know who you are?

Like a couple of little girls. Maybe your panties are still in a twist over Lebum getting sonned by Morant last night.

:lebroncry:

Bodybagged

[TheCorporation]

https://i.postimg.cc/GpJwthHz/HurrDurr.jpg



:lol

[TheCorporation]

Lol. Aren't you the two guys who get distraught any time someone on the internet criticizes a man who doesn't even know who you are?

Like a couple of little girls. Maybe your panties are still in a twist over Lebum getting sonned by Morant last night.

:lebroncry:

This boi is FUMING :lol

[aj1987]

You have an abnormally undersized brain. Keep on believing in your turnover to assist ratio. I'm not going to waste time trying to explain it to you any more. You clearly are incapable of understanding simple things.

You got absolutely humiliated and embarrassed. Your basketball knowledge (or the lack of it) got exposed and now you're having a bitch fit. Hey, at least you took my advise and are sticking to spamming troll posts, instead of exposing your autistic takes on basketball further. :cheers:

[Full Court]

You got absolutely humiliated and embarrassed. Your basketball knowledge (or the lack of it) got exposed and now you're having a bitch fit. Hey, at least you took my advise and are sticking to spamming troll posts, instead of exposing your autistic takes on basketball further. :cheers:

aj1987: "waaaaaaaaaaahhhhh waaahhhhhhhhhhhh"

:lebroncry:

Maybe some day you'll grow up and stop being a little girl. Not likely though.

However, you are proof that when someone has their head way up Princess James' ovaries it cuts off blood supply to their brain.

[Spurs m8]

aj1987: "waaaaaaaaaaahhhhh waaahhhhhhhhhhhh"

:lebroncry:

Maybe some day you'll grow up and stop being a little girl. Not likely though.

However, you are proof that when someone has their head way up Princess James' ovaries it cuts off blood supply to their brain.

AJ is always a raging lunatic....dude always lets his emotions and low bball iq get the better of him...plus his blind love for brons c0ck doesn't help

[TheGoatest]

Holy shit, you're a dense retard. The simple fact that you think players who are ATG passers AND scorers having a bit more TOV's is a bad thing (especially when the TOV to Assist ratio is not really that bad), proves how low IQ of a poster you are. Stick to spamming your troll posts and leave the basketball discussion to us.


Magic Johnson averaged 3.9 TOV's a game for his career. He must've ran pretty terrible and sloppy offenses, right? Dude must've been a terrible offensive player. Isaiah Thomas was at 3.8 TOV's per game. Heck, KD and Bird are at 3.1 per game (only 0.4 fewer than LeBron a game). Just because FACTS hurt your feelings, doesn't make them meaningless, kiddo.


LeBron is scoring nearly 9 points more than WB as well, dipshit. I doubt you know this, since you have the basketball (and general) intelligence of a rock, but offensive fouls count as TOV's and lost dribbles or if the ball is stolen from you while trying to score, it counts as a TOV as well.

WB is averaging 1.5 more APG and 1.1 more TOV/G than LeBron, while averaging 8.3 FEWER points than LeBron.

With all that being said, if you actually WATCH the games, you'd know that LeBron has 1-2 TOV's credited to him because players can't handle his passes. There were two of those this previous game as well. LeBron makes a prefect pass, the Laker player can't handle the pass and it goes out of bounds off of his fingers and LeBron gets the TOV. Those were good passes and still LeBron gets credited with the TOV.

I know this is hard for you to grasp, but if you still don't understand it, I definitely can't dumb it down any further. A 4 year old with downs should be able to understand all that.

https://c.tenor.com/s2DMo6LYhTAAAAAC/the-dude-give-up.gif

[000]

Got you learning basketball basics at age 45. :roll:
:rolleyes:

[Full Court]

AJ is always a raging lunatic....dude always lets his emotions and low bball iq get the better of him...plus his blind love for brons c0ck doesn't help

Very true. It's kind of sad, really.

[MadDog]

Very true. It's kind of sad, really.

Yeah its pretty self explanatory. Not all turnovers are tied into assists and vice versa, but most of these LeBron occultists have never touched a basketball, and jerkoff to stats. Don't let them know you can turn the ball over just by dribbling. :oldlol: Or attempting a shot by way of being stripped.

An assist to turnover ratio is cool and all, but even then its not fully contextualized. Besides, I thought "totals" were LeBron fans' niche? :confusedshrug: We hear chapter and verse on total points, so why are turnovers mitigated?

[Hey Yo]

MeltDog back to do some more meltin'

[Full Court]

Yeah its pretty self explanatory. Not all turnovers are tied into assists and vice versa, but most of these LeBron occultists have never touched a basketball, and jerkoff to stats. Don't let them know you can turn the ball over just by dribbling. :oldlol: Or attempting a shot by way of being stripped.

An assist to turnover ratio is cool and all, but even then its not fully contextualized. Besides, I thought "totals" were LeBron fans' niche? :confusedshrug: We hear chapter and verse on total points, so why are turnovers mitigated?

Yup. Spot on.

One thing I've learned though, it apparently takes a minimum IQ to understand this. Some people on here are below the minimum.

[ELITEpower23]

Spurs m8 is always a raging lunatic....dude always lets his emotions and low bball iq get the better of him...plus his blind love for brons c0ck doesn't help

[aj1987]

AJ is always a raging lunatic....dude always lets his emotions and low bball iq get the better of him...plus his blind love for brons c0ck doesn't help

You're the dude who has dedicated his life to posting about LeBron. A dude who doesn't know you exist and wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire (TBF, you parents wouldn't either). Go back to playing soggy what ever the **** that game is called, you sad pathetic basement dwelling retard. :cheers:



aj1987: "waaaaaaaaaaahhhhh waaahhhhhhhhhhhh"

:lebroncry:

Maybe some day you'll grow up and stop being a little girl. Not likely though.

However, you are proof that when someone has their head way up Princess James' ovaries it cuts off blood supply to their brain.

Aww, still on your period, little girl? FYI, a lobotomy would probably make you smarter. :cheers:

[Full Court]

You're the dude who has dedicated his life to posting about LeBron. A dude who doesn't know you exist and wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire (TBF, you parents wouldn't either). Go back to playing soggy what ever the **** that game is called, you sad pathetic basement dwelling retard. :cheers:




Aww, still on your period, little girl? FYI, a lobotomy would probably make you smarter. :cheers:

:lebroncry:


Yaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwn. Not only are you dumb, you're boring. Next.

[nineiron]

if you sort based on average turnovers per game, LeFlop is 6th, but every one with a higher rate is a POINT GUARD.

so LeBald has the most turnovers in the history of the NBA and has the highest turnovers rate per game for any FORWARD to ever play the game.

#GOATofTURNOVERS

[Full Court]

if you sort based on average turnovers per game, LeFlop is 6th, but every one with a higher rate is a POINT GUARD.

so LeBald has the most turnovers in the history of the NBA and has the highest turnovers rate per game for any FORWARD to ever play the game.

#GOATofTURNOVERS

"But but but MATH....and RATIOS!!!"

Lol at LeKaren's ovary lickers.

#GOATofTURNOVERS

[TheCorporation]

"But but but MATH....and RATIOS!!!"

Lol at LeKaren's ovary lickers.

#GOATofTURNOVERS

Meltdown

[Full Court]

Meltdown

#GOATofTURNOVERS

:lebroncry:

[1987_Lakers]

Holy shit, you're a dense retard. The simple fact that you think players who are ATG passers AND scorers having a bit more TOV's is a bad thing (especially when the TOV to Assist ratio is not really that bad), proves how low IQ of a poster you are. Stick to spamming your troll posts and leave the basketball discussion to us.


Magic Johnson averaged 3.9 TOV's a game for his career. He must've ran pretty terrible and sloppy offenses, right? Dude must've been a terrible offensive player. Isaiah Thomas was at 3.8 TOV's per game. Heck, KD and Bird are at 3.1 per game (only 0.4 fewer than LeBron a game). Just because FACTS hurt your feelings, doesn't make them meaningless, kiddo.


LeBron is scoring nearly 9 points more than WB as well, dipshit. I doubt you know this, since you have the basketball (and general) intelligence of a rock, but offensive fouls count as TOV's and lost dribbles or if the ball is stolen from you while trying to score, it counts as a TOV as well.

WB is averaging 1.5 more APG and 1.1 more TOV/G than LeBron, while averaging 8.3 FEWER points than LeBron.

With all that being said, if you actually WATCH the games, you'd know that LeBron has 1-2 TOV's credited to him because players can't handle his passes. There were two of those this previous game as well. LeBron makes a prefect pass, the Laker player can't handle the pass and it goes out of bounds off of his fingers and LeBron gets the TOV. Those were good passes and still LeBron gets credited with the TOV.

I know this is hard for you to grasp, but if you still don't understand it, I definitely can't dumb it down any further. A 4 year old with downs should be able to understand all that.

Damn, absolutely slaughtered.

[Full Court]

Damn, absolutely slaughtered.

Lol, you wish.

#GOATofTURNOVERS

:lebroncry:

[aj1987]

:lebroncry:


Yaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwn. Not only are you dumb, you're boring. Next.

All those facts popped that zit sized brain of yours, huh? :roll: :roll:

[3ba11]

Bada bing bada boom

#itwasntwestbrooksfault

[Spurs m8]

The GOAT :bowdown:

[Full Court]

All those facts popped that zit sized brain of yours, huh? :roll: :roll:

Little Ashley doesn't even know what the word "facts" means. Nor did he even address any of the points I made. Not surprising though, since he is a well-known idiot.

What is a FACT, is that the GOAT of turnovers made another six last night. :roll:

[aj1987]

Little Ashley doesn't even know what the word "facts" means. Nor did he even address any of the points I made. Not surprising though, since he is a well-known idiot.

What is a FACT, is that the GOAT of turnovers made another six last night. :roll:

Your "points" make you seem like a mouth breathing retard, who would drown in a bowl of soup. :cheers:

My dog's would probably make better basketball related "points" than you, you autistic little turd. :oldlol:

[Full Court]

Your "points" make you seem like a mouth breathing retard, who would drown in a bowl of soup. :cheers:

My dog's would probably make better basketball related "points" than you, you autistic little turd. :oldlol:

Translation: "Waahhaahahaaa waaaaaahhhhh waahhhhhhhhhhhhh I'm a loser."

Correct, Little Ashley. You are indeed a loser.

:lebroncry:

[nineiron]

Translation: "Waahhaahahaaa waaaaaahhhhh waahhhhhhhhhhhhh I'm a loser."

Correct, Little Ashley. You are indeed a loser.

:lebroncry:

:roll:

[aj1987]

Translation: "Waahhaahahaaa waaaaaahhhhh waahhhhhhhhhhhhh I'm a loser."

Correct, Little Ashley. You are indeed a loser.

:lebroncry:

Keep melting, Full ****. :cheers:

[SATAN]

Your "points" make you seem like a mouth breathing retard, who would drown in a bowl of soup. :cheers:

My dog's would probably make better basketball related "points" than you, you autistic little turd. :oldlol:

:roll:

[Full Court]

Keep melting, Full ****. :cheers:

Hey Little Ashley, watched any Lakers games lately? Your hero Brony can't even lead a super team to .500. :roll: Fitting that a loser like you would worship him.

:lebroncry:

[Spurs m8]

Can anyone confirm he isnt the goat at turnovers?

Who has the most turnovers in history?

Guys?

[aj1987]

Hey Little Ashley, watched any Lakers games lately? Your hero Brony can't even lead a super team to .500. :roll: Fitting that a loser like you would worship him.

:lebroncry:

PRIME 1-9 couldn't lead his team over a .500 record without Pippen and we're talking about 19th season LeBron. Let that sink in, Full ****. :cheers:

[Full Court]

PRIME 1-9 couldn't lead his team over a .500 record without Pippen and we're talking about 19th season LeBron. Let that sink in, Full ****. :cheers:

Hey Little Ashley. Your hero is now TEN games below .500. Yes, that's right. TEN. :roll:

Let

that

sink

in.

[nineiron]

Can anyone confirm he isnt the goat at turnovers?

Who has the most turnovers in history?

Guys?

i'm pretty sure LeTurnOver has a strangle hold on this record.

[Full Court]

i'm pretty sure LeTurnOver has a strangle hold on this record.

Next year he'll be the first player ever to hit 5,000.

[aj1987]

Hey Little Ashley. Your hero is now TEN games below .500. Yes, that's right. TEN. :roll:

Let

that

sink

in.

PRIME 1-9 couldn't lead his team over a .500 record without Pippen and we're talking about 19th season LeBron. Let that sink in, Full ****. :cheers:

Not to mention his consecutive 37 win seasons in his 14th and 15th seasons. :roll:

[Baller789]

PRIME 1-9 couldn't lead his team over a .500 record without Pippen and we're talking about 19th season LeBron. Let that sink in, Full ****. :cheers:

Not to mention his consecutive 37 win seasons in his 14th and 15th seasons. :roll:

Yeah. But the problem with that is once his team was the 1 or 2 seed, he never lost. Unlike someone else.

[aj1987]

Yeah. But the problem with that is once his team was the 1 or 2 seed, hee never lost. Unlike someone else.

Again, lets have this conversation when 1-9 can lead a team to a record over .500 without Pippen. Oh wait... :roll: :roll:

[Baller789]

Again, lets have this conversation when 1-9 can lead a team to a record over .500 without Pippen. Oh wait... :roll: :roll:

I have said before Lebron to his credit can improve his teams floor better, Jordan improves his teams ceilings better. You have to troll better than that.

[Full Court]

PRIME 1-9 couldn't lead his team over a .500 record without Pippen and we're talking about 19th season LeBron. Let that sink in, Full ****. :cheers:

Not to mention his consecutive 37 win seasons in his 14th and 15th seasons. :roll:

19 seasons and your hero Bronie STILL can't come close to matching Jordan in rings or FMVP. Did you know his finals record is 22-33? And Jordan's is 24-11?

Did you further know that Bronie is -86 in the finals? :roll:

Let


that



sink



in, Little Ashley. :lol

[Dagoods]

PRIME LeFawg got his arse handed to him by DIRK and a bunch of has beens.
NO excuses! He didn't have to be "sedated"....he wasn't the underdog...LeFawg had the upper hand and came up small!

You can GO cry a river...go hump your pillow but it's the truth!

The difference between JORDAN and LeFawg is abismal.

Some Laquisha college in FLORIDA became the first school to wear LeFawg's namebrand.
The NBA is using the JUMP MAN LOG, not only that but FOOTBALL (the real football) has embraced the JORDAN brand!

[hold this L]

The Le******s will explain it as that it's only because he's played for so many years though but will try to cite total career points as proof of his GOAT status and totally ignore that he'll end up playing more seasons than any other all time great :milton

The mental gymnastics it takes to be a fan of LeFraud :(

a few posts later


He's played almost every game for 20 straight years

The fact he just now became the to leader is quite amazing, considering his high inlovment in the offense and passing game

[aj1987]

19 seasons and your hero Bronie STILL can't come close to matching Jordan in rings or FMVP. Did you know his finals record is 22-33? And Jordan's is 24-11?

Did you further know that Bronie is -86 in the finals? :roll:

Let


that



sink



in, Little Ashley. :lol

PRIME 1-9 couldn't lead his team over a .500 record without Pippen and we're talking about 19th season LeBron. Let that sink in, Full ****.

Not to mention his consecutive 37 win seasons in his 14th and 15th seasons. :cheers:

[Full Court]

PRIME 1-9 couldn't lead his team over a .500 record without Pippen and we're talking about 19th season LeBron. Let that sink in, Full ****.

Not to mention his consecutive 37 win seasons in his 14th and 15th seasons. :cheers:

Funny thing is, it was 20 years ago when Jordan played for the Wizards and sucked. I didn't care about it then, and I don't care about it now. What's even funnier though is that your hero Bronie sucks here and now. :lol Furthermore, even Wizards Jordan was more impactful for his team and a far better leader than Bronie is.

If you're in this much of a meltdown now as you watch Bronie's chances to be GOAT slipping away before your very eyes, I can't wait to see how you are in the post season - When Bronie is sitting there as a spectator tweeting about how a storm is coming. :roll:

[Spurs m8]

He's played almost every game for 20 straight years

The fact he just now became the to leader is quite amazing, considering his high inlovment in the offense and passing game

You're talking about his total points....right?

Agreed

[aj1987]

Funny thing is, it was 20 years ago when Jordan played for the Wizards and sucked. I didn't care about it then, and I don't care about it now. What's even funnier though is that your hero Bronie sucks here and now. :lol Furthermore, even Wizards Jordan was more impactful for his team and a far better leader than Bronie is.

If you're in this much of a meltdown now as you watch Bronie's chances to be GOAT slipping away before your very eyes, I can't wait to see how you are in the post season - When Bronie is sitting there as a spectator tweeting about how a storm is coming. :roll:

Aww. Keep crying, Full ****. :cheers:

PRIME DadKiller couldn't get his team over .500 without Pip.


Wait... He actually NEVER could. :roll: :roll:

[Full Court]

Aww. Keep crying, Full ****. :cheers:

PRIME DadKiller couldn't get his team over .500 without Pip.


Wait... He actually NEVER could.

Aaaaaannnnnd Little Ashley's mom let him play on the internet again. :roll:

Go change your soiled diaper and cry some more. :lebroncry:

And when you're done, go check on Bronie's playoff status. :lol

[aj1987]

https://c.tenor.com/JEQfeixxGMgAAAAC/crying-girl-cry-face.gif

Aww! Stop crying, little girl. :)

[Full Court]

Aww! Stop crying, little girl. :)

How does it feel to be just as big a loser as your hero Bronie? :roll:

[aj1987]

https://c.tenor.com/JEQfeixxGMgAAAAC/crying-girl-cry-face.gif
How does it feel to be a sobby whiny ****, whose sole existence is dependent on a grown man making hundreds of millions playing a sport? :cheers:

[Full Court]

How does it feel to be a sobby whiny ****, whose sole existence is dependent on a grown man making hundreds of millions playing a sport? :cheers:

Little Ashley's extra cranky today now that his hero Bronie got eliminated from the post season.

Can you even imagine being that emotionally fragile? :roll:

[aj1987]

https://c.tenor.com/JEQfeixxGMgAAAAC/crying-girl-cry-face.gif

Keep crying, Full ****. :cheers:

[Spurs m8]

Little Ashley's extra cranky today now that his hero Bronie got eliminated from the post season.

Can you even imagine being that emotionally fragile? :roll:

Poor little guy

Now his mom is going to have to deal with his putrid moods, all because he stans a loser

[aj1987]

Poor little guy

Now his mom is going to have to deal with his putrid moods, all because he stans a loser

Aren't you the ****** who started the self awareness thread? You've been melting down over LeBron for nearly a decade. Time to kill yourself. :cheers:

[Full Court]

Keep crying, Full ****. :cheers:

So how does it feel to be loser just like your hero? Does that bother you, Little Ashley?

[aj1987]

So how does it feel to be loser just like your hero? Does that bother you, Little Ashley?

So, how that it fell that you've dedicated your life to hating a "loser"? PATHETIC.

[Full Court]

So, how that it fell that you've dedicated your life to hating a "loser"? PATHETIC.

^Living proof that Bronies are betas with abnormally high estrogen levels. :lol

[aj1987]

I am iving proof that I am a beta with abnormally high estrogen levels. :lol

Good description of yourself. :cheers:

[Full Court]

Good description of yourself. :cheers:

And once again, all Ashley can do is parrot what I say, being to dumb to come up with his own comeback.

Battle of wits unarmed. :roll:

Emotionally fragile beta.

[aj1987]

And once again, all Ashley can do is parrot what I say, being to dumb to come up with his own comeback.

Battle of wits unarmed. :roll:

Emotionally fragile beta.

Keep melting, Full ****. :cheers:

[Spurs m8]

Thanks for reminding us he's greatest in turnovers in ALL OF HISTORY.

Thanks, AJ

Yes, we know what subscribing to a thread is.
No one does it though...you backwards Delhi cvnt

[aj1987]

Thanks for reminding us he's greatest in turnovers in ALL OF HISTORY.

Thanks, AJ

Yes, we know what subscribing to a thread is.
No one does it though...you backwards Delhi cvnt

You posting 4 times today saying that LeBron is irrelevant and yet, you are still talking about him.

Are you finally going to kill yourself when he retires, you **** munching obese ******? :oldlol:

[Full Court]

Man, this thread really had the Bronies melting down and losing their marbles. :roll:

It's true though.

Bronie is the GOAT of turnovers. You can't argue against that.

[Spurs m8]

He is the g.o.a.t

[LeGoat4Life]

LeCuck making history

[Full Court]

He added another 5 last night. The most of anyone on both teams. :roll:

:lebroncry:

[LeGoat4Life]

Turnover King

The LeGold Standard

[Full Court]

I see he added another 4 this afternoon.

Man, by time his career is over this record just might be unbreakable.