Lakers were #1 in Preseason Odds in 2021 and Suns were #14

[kawhileonard2]

Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:

[SouBeachTalents]

The Clippers were #1 in preseason odds in 2020. What happened?

[kawhileonard2]

The Clippers were #1 in preseason odds in 2020. What happened?

No fans! In 2019, In 2021 and now there are fans.

[1987_Lakers]

The Clippers were #1 in preseason odds in 2020. What happened?

:roll:

[3ba11]

The Clippers were #1 in preseason odds in 2020. What happened?


Lebron turned the preseason favorite into Finals underdogs or losers for 7 straight years (2010-2016), except the Ray Allen miracle.

That proves that he underachieves the expectation - literally - his team is expected to win initially on-paper (preseason), but poor brand cedes favorite status to others as the season progresses... EVERY YEAR

His team wins like 53 games with a damn super-team and cedes favorite status... Every year.. the guy sucks compared to what people think.

[ELITEpower23]

The Clippers were #1 in preseason odds in 2020. What happened?

Goodness :roll:

[SouBeachTalents]

No fans! In 2019, In 2021 and now there are fans.
I'm glad fans weren't around to see this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EjZZLJwteY

[kawhileonard2]

They were around for this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-gZQ1jcysc

The 2020 bubble was like a scrimmage.

[SATAN]

I'm glad fans weren't around to see this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EjZZLJwteY

:oldlol:

[1987_Lakers]

I'm glad fans weren't around to see this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EjZZLJwteY

:roll:

[John8204]

Hold on...do you mean to tell me the defending champions were the odds on favorite

https://c.tenor.com/5Gdn3dbnQxYAAAAM/pikawoah.gif

[Johnny32]

The Clippers were #1 in preseason odds in 2020. What happened?

kawhi and pg13 trying to close a series happened...3 straight games.

[ELITEpower23]

I'm glad fans weren't around to see this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EjZZLJwteY

Massacre :oldlol:

[kawhileonard2]

Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher



Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED



Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.





Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724




http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats

[Airupthere]

Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:

And this was before he said “a storm is coming”?

[SaintzFury13]

I still would like to know who out there was stupid enough to believe the Lakers had any business being favorites at the start of the season. This is why I don't take preseason odds seriously.

[TheGoatest]

Lost teammates in a fire? Fukk you, look at your preseason odds.
Teammates got hit by lightning, huh? Fukk you, look at your preseason odds.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L4HHPTiZN8

:roll:

[kawhileonard2]

I still would like to know who out there was stupid enough to believe the Lakers had any business being favorites at the start of the season. This is why I don't take preseason odds seriously.

They had the best player in the league in Anthony Davis at the time.

[Lebron23]

Get a job. It's almost 2022 and you are still a jobless loser.

[kawhileonard2]

Get a job. It's almost 2022 and you are still a jobless loser.

You the one working at Burgerking. I work at Tesla Vice President

[Lebron23]

You the one working at Burgerking.

You smell like a hamburger

[Baller789]

You smell like a hamburger

You eat dogfood brah. :lol

[Airupthere]

So AD goes down and that’s it for the lakers? I thought a storm was coming?

[kawhileonard2]

So AD goes down and that’s it for the lakers? I thought a storm was coming?

Chris Broussard said more like sunshine

[nayte]

The Clippers were #1 in preseason odds in 2020. What happened?

:roll:

[Spurs m8]

The Clippers were #1 in preseason odds in 2020. What happened?

You are actually lying...but okay

[ThRRR3tardSatan]

Lakewhore fans having an ass meat sandwich convention up in here or what?

[SouBeachTalents]

You are actually lying...but okay
https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2020_preseason_odds.html

But why would I be surprised this poster wouldn't know what he's talking about :lol

[MadDog]

Preseason odds are a joke. Unless a team overwhelms their compeititon with talent, I don't see the relevance. Injuries always play a huge factor, especially now with protocols.

[Johnny32]

I still would like to know who out there was stupid enough to believe the Lakers had any business being favorites at the start of the season. This is why I don't take preseason odds seriously.

uh, lal was 21-6 before ad's injury last season.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202102120LAL.html

[kawhileonard2]

Wow! Lost to the team with the 14th best odds when you were first. :(

[kawhileonard2]

This year the Lakers were 2nd and Suns 6th.

[wagexslave]

This year the Lakers were 2nd and Suns 6th.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7_AeWXUcAIlbFv.jpg

[3ba11]

From 2011-2016, Lebron's preseason favorite fell to Finals underdog or loser every year, except the Ray Allen miracle.

So only a miracle stopped Lebron from underachieving the expectation for 6 straight years.

Lebron's fans and media will cry about "comp", which is a way to weaponize his failure to meet expectation.. So if your preseason favorite loses, just claim "comp"

[kawhileonard2]

This was an amazing upset.

[ArbitraryWater]

I still would like to know who out there was stupid enough to believe the Lakers had any business being favorites at the start of the season. This is why I don't take preseason odds seriously.


Why would you have said this lol


lakers were the champs and actually even backed up the odds, were the 1st or 2nd seed when AD went down.

[3ba11]

Aside from his 4 title seasons, 2006 and 2015, Lebron was either lottery, upset, locked up, swept, record loss, or lost with preseason favorite - that's 15 years of sheer failure (most of which in his prime), and only a few years where he was viable (although 2 of those years were teammate bailouts and of course franchise players at 2nd and 3rd option super-team stacked deck collusion)

[Full Court]

Aside from his 4 title seasons, 2006 and 2015, Lebron was either lottery, upset, locked up, swept, record loss, or lost with preseason favorite - that's 15 years of sheer failure (most of which in his prime), and only a few years where he was viable (although 2 of those years were teammate bailouts and of course franchise players at 2nd and 3rd option super-team stacked deck collusion)

Nobody has achieved less with more. Nobody.