Shaq and LeBron. How many championships if both of them play in the 1990's and 2000's

[Lebron23]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiNzgiW4GGM

Washed up Shaq and LeBron had a great team chemistry in Cleveland

[Lebron23]

Team Shaq beat Jordan and the Bulls in the 1995 NBA playoffs

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1995-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-bulls-vs-magic.html

[TheGoatest]

LeBron with an equivalent of Reggie Miller/Mitch Richmond/Latrell Sprewell/John Starks being his main competitors in the league at his position = 8 rings at least

[Lebron23]

LeBron with an equivalent of Reggie Miller/Mitch Richmond/Latrell Sprewell/John Starks being his main competitors in the league at his position = 8 rings at least

I agree.

[Baller789]

LeBron with an equivalent of Reggie Miller/Mitch Richmond/Latrell Sprewell/John Starks being his main competitors in the league at his position = 8 rings at least

You do know that.

A. Lebron is primarily a SF
B. Miller, Starks and Richmond are SG's
C. His main competitors are gonna be Malone, Barkley, Olajuwon, Robinson, basketball ain't played one on one.

:roll:

[1987_Lakers]

You do know that.

A. Lebron is primarily a SF
B. Miller, Starks and Richmond are SG's
C. His main competitors are gonna be Malone, Barkley, Olajuwon, Robinson, basketball ain't played one on one.

:roll:

"equivalent"

[Baller789]

"equivalent"

My point stands. See letter C.

[TheGoatest]

You do know that.

A. Lebron is primarily a SF
B. Miller, Starks and Richmond are SG's
C. His main competitors are gonna be Malone, Barkley, Olajuwon, Robinson, basketball ain't played one on one.

:roll:

You do know that.

A. SF is a perimeter position
B. Miller, Starks and Richmond are perimeter players
C. His main competitors are primarily gonna be perimeter players, Malone, Barkley, Olajuwon, Robinson are big men, and his direct competition from those teams would be Bryon Russell, Dan Majerle, Mario Elie and Sean Elliott

:roll:

[Baller789]

You do know that.

A. SF is a perimeter position
B. Miller, Starks and Richmond are perimeter players
C. His main competitors are primarily gonna be perimeter players, Malone, Barkley, Olajuwon, Robinson are big men, and his direct competition from those teams would be Bryon Russell, Dan Majerle, Mario Elie and Sean Elliott

:roll:

No dumbass.

Lebron is the go to guy of his team. So his comparison for the best player in the NBA for that bigman era would be bigs. Your talking about matchup which is again disingeneous on you part as usual.

You are just pushing that narrative to make your idol look better. :cry:

[TheGoatest]

No dumbass.

Lebron is the go to guy of his team. So his comparison for the best player in the NBA for that bigman era would be bigs. Your talking about matchup which is again disingeneous on you part as usual.

You are just pushing that narrative to make your idol look better. :cry:

"Common sense" = "narrative". :oldlol:

I am talking about the players who would be most directly related to his on-court energy expenditure, on both ends of the court.

You are hoping that naming the big men of the 90s will somehow distract from the fact that 90s perimeter competition = crap. It won't. :(

[Johnny32]

You do know that.

A. Lebron is primarily a SF
B. Miller, Starks and Richmond are SG's
C. His main competitors are gonna be Malone, Barkley, Olajuwon, Robinson, basketball ain't played one on one.

:roll:

embarrassing.

[Baller789]

"Common sense" = "narrative". :oldlol:

I am talking about the players who would be most directly related to his on-court energy expenditure, on both ends of the court.

You are hoping that naming the big men of the 90s will somehow distract from the fact that 90s perimeter competition = crap. It won't. :(

Lebron expending energy on both ends of the court? Like this one?
https://i.postimg.cc/jndPNTVZ/kyle-kuzma-le-bron-james.gif (https://postimg.cc/jndPNTVZ)
I didn't know you were an aspiring clown.
:yaohappy:

[TheGoatest]

Lebron expending energy on both ends of the court? Like this one?
https://i.postimg.cc/jndPNTVZ/kyle-kuzma-le-bron-james.gif (https://postimg.cc/jndPNTVZ)
I didn't know you were an aspiring clown.
:yaohappy:

Yes, that is exactly the type of play he would have to give zero damns about in the 90s because Bryon Russell and his 10 ppg wouldn't be a concern.

[Baller789]

Yes, that is exactly the type of play he would have to give zero damns about in the 90s because Bryon Russell and his 10 ppg wouldn't be a concern.

So you're saying he'll be matched up against 10ppg Bryon Russell every night?

Oh do tell me more :lol

[TheGoatest]

So you're saying he'll be matched up against 10ppg Bryon Russell every night?

Oh do tell me more :lol

No, on some nights he would have to face Dan Majerle and his whopping 16 ppg.

[Baller789]

No, on some nights he would have to face Dan Majerle and his whopping 16 ppg.

Uh huh and who else?

[expansionera]

You do know that.

A. Lebron is primarily a SF
B. Miller, Starks and Richmond are SG's
C. His main competitors are gonna be Malone, Barkley, Olajuwon, Robinson, basketball ain't played one on one.

:roll:

You’re nitpicking him for listing SGs as Lebron’s competition so you list all PFs/Cs as a rebuttal? :facepalm

[kawhileonard2]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiNzgiW4GGM

Washed up Shaq and LeBron had a great team chemistry in Cleveland

We saw peak Lebron and prime Shaq together they made it to round 2 only. So no titles

[FKAri]

Lebron + anyone = 12 rings in the 90s alone.

[Baller789]

You’re nitpicking him for listing SGs as Lebron’s competition so you list all PFs/Cs as a rebuttal? :facepalm

If he can list SG's while Lebron is a SF, I sure can hell list PF's.

[TheGoatest]

If he can list SG's while Lebron is a SF, I sure can hell list PF's.

:lol The only SF worth a damn in the 90s was Scottie Pippen. There was also Grant Hill, but he only played in the second half of the 90s.

I couldn't even tell who the third best SF of the 90s was. Chris Mullin? Glen Rice? Old Dominique Wilkins, who had two seasons where he played in Greece and Italy? :lol

In general perimeter players in the 90s were a joke compared to the 2010s.

[BigShotBob]

:lol The only SF worth a damn in the 90s was Scottie Pippen. There was also Grant Hill, but he only played in the second half of the 90s.

I couldn't even tell who the third best SF of the 90s was. Chris Mullin? Glen Rice? Old Dominique Wilkins, who had two seasons where he played in Greece and Italy? :lol

In general perimeter players in the 90s were a joke compared to the 2010s.

You're literally wrong but none of that matters. Lebron isn't guarding the real threats (Hakeem, Ewing, Robinson, Malone, Barkley, etc) and we all know he'll choke like he did in 2011 at least once and get outscored by a roleplayer during his prime/peak.

[TheGoatest]

You're literally wrong but none of that matters. Lebron isn't guarding the real threats (Hakeem, Ewing, Robinson, Malone, Barkley, etc) and we all know he'll choke like he did in 2011 at least once and get outscored by a roleplayer during his prime/peak.

:oldlol: So mad that LeBron would win at least 8 rings in the midst of 90s crap perimeter competition.

[BigShotBob]

:oldlol: So mad that LeBron would win at least 8 rings in the midst of 90s crap perimeter competition.

Hook line and sinker......




















































































































































































Jason Terry

[TheGoatest]

Hook line and sinker......


Jason Terry

Circle-jerk name dropping a player who wasn't even close to being as good as the best player on his team doesn't help your case.

Jimmy Butler > Every small forward who played in more than half the seasons of the 90s, aside from Pippen = fact

[Baller789]

:lol The only SF worth a damn in the 90s was Scottie Pippen. There was also Grant Hill, but he only played in the second half of the 90s.

I couldn't even tell who the third best SF of the 90s was. Chris Mullin? Glen Rice? Old Dominique Wilkins, who had two seasons where he played in Greece and Italy? :lol

In general perimeter players in the 90s were a joke compared to the 2010s.


:oldlol: So mad that LeBron would win at least 8 rings in the midst of 90s crap perimeter competition.

I thought Lebron is a 1-5 player?

:roll:

So he has to matchup against Olajuwon, Malone, Robinson, Ewing, Shaq, Barkley and Mourning.

[kawhileonard2]

Dude was losing to Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Duncan, Iverson, Wade on his squads. :oldlol::roll:

[Baller789]

Dude was losing to Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Duncan, Iverson, Wade on his squads. :oldlol::roll:

Mr. Bronze medals.

The King of underachievements.

[CountDracula]

“Don’t be afraid LeFlop, it’s almost over Baby Boy!”

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“The War is over LeFlop, go with God Brother, go with God!”

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Scottie Pippen Says Suge Knight Didn't Want Smoke With Charles Oakley: "Suge Walked Around Oak That Night. That’s What I Saw!"

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This is what Xav did. He grabbed me by my neck — middle of practice. And put me in one of those sleepers, right with everyone watching and everything. I was about to go out, and then he let me go. He told me, ‘If I have to beat your ass every time, you’re gonna listen to me.’
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[TheGoatest]

I thought Lebron is a 1-5 player?

:roll:

So he has to matchup against Olajuwon, Malone, Robinson, Ewing, Shaq, Barkley and Mourning.

Apparently, it seems that you also thought you knew what the phrase "has to" means, which you shockingly don't since it only consists of two words and five letters.

His matchup would be the players that match his most natural position, and not the position he is capable of playing as a last resort. And those matchups would be Mario Elie, Bryon Russell, Sean Elliott, Charles Smith, Donald Royal, Dan Majerle and Jamal Mashburn.

[Baller789]

Apparently, it seems that you also thought you knew what the phrase "has to" means, which you shockingly don't since it only consists of two words and five letters.

His matchup would be the players that match his most natural position, and not the position he is capable of playing as a last resort. And those matchups would be Mario Elie, Bryon Russell, Sean Elliott, Charles Smith, Donald Royal, Dan Majerle and Jamal Mashburn.

Oh so now position matters?

Keep moving goalposts buddy.

Youre hilarious.

:yaohappy:

[sdot_thadon]

Oh so now position matters?

Keep moving goalposts buddy.

Youre hilarious.

:yaohappy:

Not that i care either way about the argument, but I'm pretty effing sure he mentioned Sg as they were MJ's positional comp in the the 90s and was just saying agaisnt that caliber of player at sf instead. I'm sure you know this, but I guess it's part of the rainman shtick Jordan fans use as a go to these days to avoid serious discussion that they can't win........

[dankok8]

On paper a lot... but keep in mind that Shaq and Kobe only had their primes overlap for 3 seasons from 2001-2003. Before that Kobe wasn't in his prime and after that Shaq wasn't in his prime so that duo as well could have won a lot more (5 rings?) if their primes overlapped for a decade. The other issue is would Shaq and Lebron get along? No one knows. Shaq had a big ego... At the end it's all hypotheticals. We'll never know.

[John8204]

Yeah I don't know if Shaq and Lebron would even work as a team and who else would be on the team? Shaq was only able to win during the weakest points of his career

[Baller789]

LeBron with an equivalent of Reggie Miller/Mitch Richmond/Latrell Sprewell/John Starks being his main competitors in the league at his position = 8 rings at least


Not that i care either way about the argument, but I'm pretty effing sure he mentioned Sg as they were MJ's positional comp in the the 90s and was just saying agaisnt that caliber of player at sf instead. I'm sure you know this, but I guess it's part of the rainman shtick Jordan fans use as a go to these days to avoid serious discussion that they can't win........

It's pretty evident here why they chose the "equivalent" SG's in a bigman era to make their favorite player look better.

One could easily make the "equivalent" bigman player of that era. But it wouldn't support their narrative.

[Baller789]

Yeah I don't know if Shaq and Lebron would even work as a team and who else would be on the team? Shaq was only able to win during the weakest points of his career

Who's gonna be the closer?
Rick Fox?
Also they would be terrible at free throws overall :lol

[TheGoatest]

Oh so now position matters?

Keep moving goalposts buddy.

Youre hilarious.

:yaohappy:

Utilizing yourself in the best way possible matters, yes.

"Youre". :lol

[Baller789]

Utilizing yourself in the best way possible matters, yes.

"Youre". :lol

Oh you mean being disingenuous when pushing an agenda matters.
Got it buddy!