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StrongLurk
01-01-2022, 11:14 PM
Also shot 2-4 from three and 9-12 from the FT.

Over his last 225 regular season games, dude is putting up a 30.7 PER, 62.7 TS%, and a 10.2 BPM.

That's some serious top ten all-time level advanced stats over a long stretch. Honestly Giannis is like a modern day Wilt Chamberlain.

FireDavidKahn
01-01-2022, 11:15 PM
Yawn.

After LeGOAT last night this is a letdown.

Im Still Ballin
01-01-2022, 11:16 PM
Currently at the #1 spot on NBA.com's MVP rankings.

Kawhi_Why_Not
01-01-2022, 11:16 PM
He's the GOAT big man. Better defense then Shaq and doesn't offensive foul as much. Better playoff performer then Wilt.

Still proud of Kawhi for punishing his ass in '19

Full Court
01-01-2022, 11:16 PM
And most importantly, he led the Bucks to a WIN. Which, for the uneducated among you, is the whole POINT of basketball.

As an aside, the Bucks are also over .500.

SATAN
01-01-2022, 11:17 PM
Why was he still in up by 20 points with 2 minutes left?

dankok8
01-02-2022, 12:45 AM
I don't really enjoy watching Giannis but he's probably the best player in basketball.

Jasper
01-02-2022, 10:46 AM
bucks had 4 players from their starting 5 of a year ago out for apx. 16 games at the start of the season.
Jrue came back , Middleton and Donte all were under protocol , and Lopez may not even play this season with back issues.
Boogie currently is 2nd string behind Portis , but it is over all a great 1-2 punch.
Giannis is holding it all together , and hard to believe when Mathews came back playing one shit stint with LA that he is back at his
old self nock'n 3's and playing pretty good Defense.
We like to be underdogs , when play off time comes and we have 2nd seed , we will be o.k.
In the MVP race - Giannis is the most consistent across the board , not just scoring.

3ba11
01-02-2022, 12:33 PM
During this 2022 season, 58% (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/203507/shots-dash/) of Giannis' shots are contested, versus only 40% (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/2544/shots-dash/) for Lebron, so Lebron is lulling defenses to sleep and then taking open shots (not sustainable in playoffs), while Giannis' numbers aren't stat-padding like this and therefore more sustainable in the playoffs.

ShawkFactory
01-02-2022, 12:40 PM
During this 2022 season, 58% (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/203507/shots-dash/) of Giannis' shots are contested, versus only 40% (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/2544/shots-dash/) for Lebron, so Lebron is lulling defenses to sleep and then taking open shots (not sustainable in playoffs), while Giannis' numbers aren't stat-padding like this and therefore more sustainable in the playoffs.

Lebron takes a far higher percentage of jumpshots, particularly from 3. These types of shots are typically more open than someone finishing at the rim, so the person finishing inside more will naturally have a higher tight contest rate. This is just how they play at this stage of their careers, and is completely sustainable in the playoffs.

3ba11
01-02-2022, 12:44 PM
Lebron takes a far higher percentage of jumpshots, particularly from 3. These types of shots are typically more open than someone finishing at the rim, so the person finishing inside more will naturally have a higher tight contest rate. This is just how they play at this stage of their careers, and is completely sustainable in the playoffs.


Taking open threes isn't sustainable in the playoffs.. Ask Curry

Open shots are exactly what the defenses reduce in the playoffs, which is why Lebron suffered ever since he came out West, aside from the 1 year that AD nutted up and made Lebron the "pippen" (lower producer)

ShawkFactory
01-02-2022, 01:01 PM
Taking open threes isn't sustainable in the playoffs.. Ask Curry

Open shots are exactly what the defenses reduce in the playoffs, which is why Lebron suffered ever since he came out West, aside from the 1 year that AD nutted up and made Lebron the "pippen" (lower producer)

Not 3s as much. His numbers have almost always been better in the playoffs than the regular season. Particularly in the last few years when he's improved his 3pt jumper.

ELITEpower23
01-02-2022, 01:03 PM
Taking open threes isn't sustainable in the playoffs.. Ask Curry

Open shots are exactly what the defenses reduce in the playoffs, which is why Lebron suffered ever since he came out West, aside from the 1 year that AD nutted up and made Lebron the "pippen" (lower producer)

2020 Finals

LBJ: 30/12/9 on 59%
AD: 25/11/3 on 57%

Next

:hammertime:

3ba11
01-02-2022, 01:53 PM
Not 3s as much. His numbers have almost always been better in the playoffs than the regular season. Particularly in the last few years when he's improved his 3pt jumper.


You're talking about assisted threes via ball movement, not the kind of threes Lebron gets, which are one-offs i.e. hand-offs or otherwise ball-dominant, lullaby threes (that aren't as deadly to a defense as ball movement threes)

He's almost never the guy standing in the corner like that Monk assist - Lebron ELEVATED monk on that play by being an assist target and giving him spacing, while ultimately elevating him to a playmaker role (not reducing him to spot-up shooter).. Teammates typically elevate Lebron by standing in the corner, but Lebron rarely does the same in return (rarely plays off-ball)

ShawkFactory
01-02-2022, 02:07 PM
You're talking about assisted threes via ball movement, not the kind of threes Lebron gets, which are one-offs i.e. hand-offs or otherwise ball-dominant, lullaby threes (that aren't as deadly to a defense as ball movement threes)

He's almost never the guy standing in the corner like that Monk assist - Lebron ELEVATED monk on that play by being an assist target and giving him spacing, while ultimately elevating him to a playmaker role (not reducing him to spot-up shooter).. Teammates typically elevate Lebron by standing in the corner, but Lebron rarely does the same in return (rarely plays off-ball)

He's taking 4 catch and shoot 3s per game. Half of all that he takes.

3ba11
01-02-2022, 02:09 PM
He's taking 4 catch and shoot 3s per game. Half of all that he takes.


He's expending the team's offense to get him looks, which are mostly open

again, his inability to take contested jumpers costs the team and lesser role players

Truly goat-level performance involves giving teammates a chance first and only stepping in as a bailout option when needed - Lebron does it the other way around - his teammates are the bailout options, smh

Full Court
01-02-2022, 05:41 PM
2020 Finals

LBJ: 30/12/9 on 59%
AD: 25/11/3 on 57%

Next

:hammertime:

Why don't you show those numbers for the other playoff series?

ShawkFactory
01-02-2022, 06:52 PM
He's expending the team's offense to get him looks, which are mostly open

again, his inability to take contested jumpers costs the team and lesser role players

Truly goat-level performance involves giving teammates a chance first and only stepping in as a bailout option when needed - Lebron does it the other way around - his teammates are the bailout options, smh

:oldlol:

3ba11
01-02-2022, 09:02 PM
:oldlol:


It's a fact - the team's offense is supposed to help the lesser players, but instead the team's offense revolves around Lebron... aka the triangle was meant to get the ROLE PLAYERS off.. MJ had to learn to fit his game into it.

And therein lies the rub,,, Lebron never evolved out of offenses that revolve around him, so he never learned to elevate teammates beyond spot-up roles, and therefore never learned how to WIN (organic) - he only learned how to team-hop (talent-based winning), and talent-based winning loses to organic ball movement (lottery record against Spurs, Mavs, Warriors)

Carry on

3ba11
01-02-2022, 09:03 PM
:oldlol:


A team's offense is supposed to help the lesser players, but instead the team's offense revolves around Lebron... for example, the triangle was meant to get the ROLE PLAYERS off.. MJ had to learn to fit his game into it.

And therein lies the rub.. Lebron never evolved out of offenses that revolve around him, so he never learned to elevate teammates beyond spot-up roles, and therefore never learned how to WIN (organic) - he only learned how to team-hop (talent-based winning), and talent-based winning loses to organic ball movement (lottery record against Spurs, Mavs, Warriors)

Carry on

ShawkFactory
01-02-2022, 09:31 PM
So what we're saying is that no matter what Lebron does, on or off ball, it's bad for the offense. Got it.