Kevin Love is actually really good again...like superstar level good.

[iamgine]

In 21 minutes of playing time...averaging 15-8 on great efficiency. Last 10 games 21-8 in 24 minutes.

I honestly thought he was done after 2019. Now he might be frontrunner to win SMOY if they can keep him on the bench.

[dankok8]

I'm not surprised. Love's problem has always been staying healthy. We know he can play!

[Kblaze8855]

Superstar level good and 6th man of the year front runner feel like different things. I suppose you could be mixing him in with the likes of Hondo, Mchale, and Manu who came off the bench a lot but…they just feel like different things.

[Johnny32]

your definition of superstar is different than mine.

[pandiani17]

I would like to see him become an important player in the league again. He has been in the background for a long time.

[tontoz]

Per 36 he is averaging 25/13 with a 64% TS which is certainly elite.

Superstar? Not so sure about that. Putting up good numbers is harder playing big minutes against the other teams starters. Playing limited minutes against backups has to be taken into account.

[3ba11]

That's what happens in a hyper-competitive environment when you stop developing for a few years - you fall back to the pack - it shouldn't be a surprise that it took him a while to grind back to where he has an edge again.

[RRR3]

If he was a superstar he would start.

[TheCorporation]

Love is averaging 14.6 ppg and 7.6 rpg and 2.1 apg

Leaguewide that's good for:
PPG: 69th
RPG: 39th
APG: 117th

Here are a few players with a higher PPG than Love this season: Bobby Portis, Saddig Bey, Scottie Barnes, Jalen Brunson

Definitely not really good and definitely not superstar level good.

[StrongLurk]

Love's biggest problems in his career have been TONS of injuries. Dude is hurt all the damn time. He's played like 45 games a year for the past 5 years.

[TheCorporation]

Love's biggest problems in his career have been TONS of injuries. Dude is hurt all the damn time. He's played like 45 games a year for the past 5 years.

+1

[tontoz]

Love is averaging 14.6 ppg and 7.6 rpg and 2.1 apg

Leaguewide that's good for:
PPG: 69th
RPG: 39th
APG: 117th

Here are a few players with a higher PPG than Love this season: Bobby Portis, Saddig Bey, Scottie Barnes, Jalen Brunson

Definitely not really good and definitely not superstar level good.


Low IQ post.

Comparing his PPG to guys who play far more minutes is ..... :facepalm

[AirBonner]

Cavs are better with him off the floor

[TheCorporation]

Low IQ post.

Comparing his PPG to guys who play far more minutes is ..... :facepalm

Oh look, a tard that can't read :lol

[tontoz]

Oh look, a tard that can't read :lol

I can read just fine. You compared per game numbers of a guy playing 21 minutes per game to the per game numbers of guys playing over 30 minutes per game.

:facepalm

News flash....playing more minutes tends to increase per game production.


https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/g195/tontoz/.highres/dumb.jpg

[MadDog]

He's not a superstar, but its good to see him play well again. Love was a beast in Minnesota and sacrificed a lot with LeBron and Kyrie.

[ArbitraryWater]

I'm not surprised. Love's problem has always been staying healthy. We know he can play!

No his problem has been playing really good.

Since 2014.

And it did not stop being his problem when LeBron left :lol

[ArbitraryWater]

Love is averaging 15 pts on 45% this far...



if thats superstar level good I don't know anymore.

[tontoz]

Love is averaging 15 pts on 45% this far...



if thats superstar level good I don't know anymore.


60% of his shots are 3s. His TS is 64% which is higher than Lebron.

[TheCorporation]

I can read just fine. You compared per game numbers of a guy playing 21 minutes per game to the per game numbers of guys playing over 30 minutes per game.

:facepalm

News flash....playing more minutes tends to increase per game production.


https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/g195/tontoz/.highres/dumb.jpg

Okay WelfareFan, tell me then, is Kevin Love a superstar this year? :lol

[tontoz]

Okay WelfareFan, tell me then, is Kevin Love a superstar this year? :lol

In my very first post i said that superstar is dubious because he is playing limited minutes as a backup.

His per 36 minute numbers are certainly All-Star caliber (25/13 with 64% TS) but would be more impressive if he was starting and playing 30+ minutes.

[AirBonner]

Imagine thinking 15ppg is (superstar production) lolol

[TheCorporation]

Imagine thinking 15ppg is (superstar production) lolol

Right? Like shit, this isn't the 90s anymore :lol

[Kblaze8855]

He seems an odd guy to say it about because he doesn’t just seem like one when you hear him talk but….I’m not sure Loves problem isn’t being a jerk. I don’t think teammates like him going all the way back to minny. He had issues with a few people there and Darko absolutely despised him:



“I had the opportunity to play with great players in the NBA, but they were all crybabies, like Kevin Love, for example. Minnesota Timberwolves GM wanted me to apologize to all the players on the way I behaved, and I didn’t want to apologize to those crybabies. You have a guy like Kevin Love, and don’t get me wrong I don’t have the right to talk about anything because of the way I played, and he achieved much more than I ever did. But he is a type of guy that is not satisfied if he doesn’t score 20 points and grabs ten rebounds even though we won the game. He was unhappy in the locker room and was even close to crying, and he is supposed to be your go-to guy in a championship team?


I can’t play with those types of players, and I won’t apologize to them. I did some stupid things in my career, and I agree I was wrong, but I would never apologize to Kevin Love. I was used to different values growing up like, team basketball, teamwork, and winning games.”


Thats maybe the most scathing teammate review in history….


And it carried on in Cleveland. Remember Isiah Thomas and Love had beef because of leading the team against Love in a players only meeting calling him out about faking illness to bail on a game and not work out the next day.


Later you had their new star Sexton liking social media posts calling love a thief and saying he committed the heist of the century on the Cavs. Combined with shit like this:










https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PhysicalValidHapuku-size_restricted.gif




Which may be the worst non violent on court behavior I’ve ever seen…..just flat out saying “**** this game and my teammates”….

and shit like this:


https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DimpledCoarseHyrax-size_restricted.gif





where he again had issues with Sexton before storming off and yelling at the GM in public and having to apologize…..




Doesnt it kinda paint a picture?



Think about this for a moment….

Whats the worst thing you remember Marbury doing on a basketball court?

He was called a loser and a cancer for years but I bet whatever you think of wasnt nearly as bad as those incidents. Ricky Davis tried to get a triple double throwing it off his backboard. Dumb and funny. As much of a violation as just giving the hall to the other team and walking off or going to take the ball from the point and show him up before yelling at the gm about him mid game in public?

Kevin Love has been called out by multiple teammates and had some of the weirdest blowups on the court.

If Kevin Love looked like Chris Anderson he’d probably be considered a cancer. But he looks like the clean cut all American and when he speaks he sounds reasonable but….I don’t know.

He could just be hard to play with. It’s possible right? Darko to IT is a pretty wide difference in demographics of your haters…..

It could just be him right?

[tontoz]

I would say Love certainly has mental issues. He has done some strange, unprofessional stuff. Pretty funny at times though.

If i remember right he admitted to depression at one point and got treatment for it.

Seems like he has been a straight arrow this season so far.

[ShawkFactory]

He's been as good as ever on the glass but he's shooting absolutely lights out. I like seeing him play well but I wonder if he's due for a bit of regression.

[Kblaze8855]

I would say Love certainly has mental issues. He has done some strange, unprofessional stuff. Pretty funny at times though.

If i remember right he admitted to depression at one point and got treatment for it.

Seems like he has been a straight arrow this season so far.


It’s always funny. I wouldn’t imagine it’s funny to play with though. He really does have more teammate incidents and “What the ****….” things than most people we call cancers while also having a terrible record most of his career. He might have a good final run with these young Cavs though. At least if he’s worked out personal issues with them. Sexton liking tweets about him being a thief doesn’t suggest it’s always been great. I don’t imagine anyone on the team will Darko it and just call him out in public though so we may not hear any more about it.

[tontoz]

It’s always funny. I wouldn’t imagine it’s funny to play with though. He really does have more teammate incidents and “What the ****….” things than most people we call cancers while also having a terrible record most of his career. He might have a good final run with these young Cavs though. At least if he’s worked out personal issues with them. Sexton liking tweets about him being a thief doesn’t suggest it’s always been great. I don’t imagine anyone on the team will Darko it and just call him out in public though so we may not hear any more about it.


I typically don't pay much attention to stuff like that unless it really gets out of hand. When you get a bunch of young, rich alphas together there are going to be issues.

You just posted the other day about the wizards paying Jordan $10 million to go away because the players wanted him gone. Whatevs.

My impression was that Love quit on the team at times with the Cavs after LeBron left. That inbounds play was ridiculous.

When fans are pinning the cancer label on guys they are typically looking at performance on the court. Guys that are overly selfish or lazy on D typically get that label, and they are typically good players that are expected to be stars. Coming into the season Love was kind of irrelevant.

I never paid a lot of attention to Love really. Looking at his career he seems pretty dependent on the 3. Not a very good scorer inside the arc, at least relative to other All Stars. For his career he is shooting 48% on 2s. That is 8% worse than sabonis who isn't exactly elite.

[tpols]

Per 36 he is averaging 25/13 with a 64% TS which is certainly elite.

Superstar? Not so sure about that. Putting up good numbers is harder playing big minutes against the other teams starters. Playing limited minutes against backups has to be taken into account.

That's what he used to average in Minnesota making the All NBA team. Playing with bums... Pekovic, Martin, and Rubio were his best teammates which was trash help, especially for the western conference. Still almost made the playoffs. Even prime Kevin Garnett used to miss the playoffs on the wolves. And Sam Cassell, Spreewell, and Wally Szerbiak were way better than Loves cast.

Players being called a cancer has more to do with playing an inefficient dumb brand of basketball. Streetball essentially. His last year with Minny Love scored 26 a game on 120 ORTG. He was one of the highest PPP (points per possession) post players and best big man shooters in the world... while being a rebounding champion.

Most All NBA guys would get mad if a little punk rookie waved them off on what the play was supposed to be. Love dealt with that from LeBron for many years. Being treated the same by sexton definitely pissed him off considering the kid is a nobody.

Talking about giving up a play or quitting in a meaningless regular season game. Scottie Pippen pulled that stunt in a do or die playoff game in his best season ever.

There's levels to this shit... Iverson and Marbury were considered cancers because they shot like shit yet demanded all the shots. Love shoots less and way better. Hence why he doesn't have that label. Those two single handedly cost the USA their worst Olympics ever in 2004.

[Kblaze8855]

Cancer has always just meant shitty teammates who are bad for the team. The concept long predates “street ball” or anyones field goal percentage being reported. Teammates calling you a loser who cries over stats, liking suggestions you’re stealing money, saying you fake sick to get out of playing, yelling at the gm in public, and so on….combined with every team you attempted to lead being awful?

Thats usual cancer shit.

Giving the ball to the other team out of frustration and throwing on court tantrums is a whole other thing.

Dude just does not seem easy to get along with.

[tontoz]

Cancer has always just meant shitty teammates who are bad for the team. The concept long predates “street ball” or anyones field goal percentage being reported. Teammates calling you a loser who cries over stats, liking suggestions you’re stealing money, saying you fake sick to get out of playing, yelling at the gm in public, and so on….combined with every team you attempted to lead being awful?

Thats usual cancer shit.

Giving the ball to the other team out of frustration and throwing on court tantrums is a whole other thing.

Dude just does not seem easy to get along with.

Seems like most of the guys who got the cancer label were All Stars. I don't remember too many bench players being called cancers , although I am sure many of them were lousy teammates.

[Hey Yo]

60% of his shots are 3s. His TS is 64% which is higher than Lebron.

Why is Love shooting so many 3's?

I thought LeBron made him shoot 3's so why is he continuing to do so?

[Kblaze8855]

Seems like most of the guys who got the cancer label were All Stars. I don't remember too many bench players being called cancers , although I am sure many of them were lousy teammates.


Generally you have to be pretty good to put up with it. I’d imagine cancerous role players don’t last.

[tontoz]

Generally you have to be pretty good to put up with it. I’d imagine cancerous role players don’t last.


So what are we talking about, players who are perceived by fans as cancers or players that actually are cancers?


I was talking about people who are perceived as cancers by fans. Seems like almost everyone perceived as a cancer by fans is an All Star, whether they are cancers or not.

But in general I am pretty indifferent to the topic. You have one ball and a bunch of alphas wanting minutes, shots, paydays. Drama is pretty much inevitable. Shaq and Kobe couldn't get along even though they were both great players and winning titles.

Regardless of his behavior Love was a beast in Minnesota

Sexton doesn't seem to be missed by the Cavs. Curious to see how much interest he gets in free agency.

[warriorfan]

This is the ultimate ether.

Pau is a good player but the way people talk about him my god you would think he's Kareem Abdul Jabbar or something.

For sure. If anything Kevin Love was much much closer to Kareem Abdul Jabbar than Pau ever was.

In his last season in Minny before playing with LeBron James, Kevin Love averaged 26.1/12.5/4.4/.591 TS%

The only 2 players to ever have that stat line are

https://i.postimg.cc/MHK1G4DZ/FC2-E0-D3-D-B0-C6-4978-B091-479490-FB49-DE.jpg

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=per_game&per_minute_base=36&per_poss_base=100&season_start=1&season_end=-1&lg_id=NBA&age_min=0&age_max=99&is_playoffs=N&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts_per_g&c1comp=gt&c1val=26.1&c2stat=trb_per_g&c2comp=gt&c2val=12.5&c3stat=ast_per_g&c3comp=gt&c3val=4.4&c4stat=ts_pct&c4comp=gt&c4val=.591&order_by=ws

1. Prime Kareem Abdul Jabbar in 72
2. Kevin Love 14

[tontoz]

For sure. If anything Kevin Love was much much closer to Kareem Abdul Jabbar than Pau ever was.

In his last season in Minny before playing with LeBron James, Kevin Love averaged 26.1/12.5/4.4/.591 TS%

The only 2 players to ever have that stat line are

https://i.postimg.cc/MHK1G4DZ/FC2-E0-D3-D-B0-C6-4978-B091-479490-FB49-DE.jpg

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=per_game&per_minute_base=36&per_poss_base=100&season_start=1&season_end=-1&lg_id=NBA&age_min=0&age_max=99&is_playoffs=N&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts_per_g&c1comp=gt&c1val=26.1&c2stat=trb_per_g&c2comp=gt&c2val=12.5&c3stat=ast_per_g&c3comp=gt&c3val=4.4&c4stat=ts_pct&c4comp=gt&c4val=.591&order_by=ws

1. Prime Kareem Abdul Jabbar in 72
2. Kevin Love 14


They were 11 pts better with Love on the court that year.

http://www.82games.com/1314/13MIN14.HTM#onoff

He was 2nd in the league in +/- .

[tpols]

Cancer involved being shitty intangibly as a teammate and playstyle. With the latter being the far more accepted definition... probably 70/30. The biggest cancers in history are the Westbrook and Iverson types. You can post feel good moments about them going to the movies with their teammates... but on the court they simply play retarded, miss most shots, yet always demand the ball. That's a basketball cancer.

Again Scottie Pippen did what Love did but x1000 since it was a huge do or die playoff game... literally quit on the most important possession of the season... yet he doesn't have a cancer label. Because playing smart for 99% of the time overrides a few bad moments. And playing retarded for 80% of the time warrants the label.

Nobody wins on the imploded Cavs of late or the shitty twolves. Even peak Garnett gets frustrated in those situations so literally every body would.

[tpols]

Michael Jordan was a huge asshole and bully... with multiple guys on his team wanting to fight him... even wanting to break his legs and end his career. Teammates of his. Nobody calls him a cancer for it because he played so smart and efficiently... you couldn't with argue the results. Who could ever call MJ dumb? He was ruthlessly intelligent. That's the predominant factor in getting that label or not.

[warriorfan]

They were 11 pts better with Love on the court that year.

http://www.82games.com/1314/13MIN14.HTM#onoff

He was 2nd in the league in +/- .

He was a bonafide superstar. Trolls will be intellectually dishonest and write off his impact with not having team success when if you take into context how poor his team was it’s an absurd and false talking point. To add to it, Kevin Love would have in fact dragged one of the all time worst casts to the playoffs if he had the luxury of playing in a historical weak east conference. In the 2014 year which is being referenced, Kevin Love was able to pull his team to 40 wins, which would have gave him a playoff birth in the East where the Hawks clinched with a 38 win total.

[ShawkFactory]

Cancer has always just meant shitty teammates who are bad for the team. The concept long predates “street ball” or anyones field goal percentage being reported. Teammates calling you a loser who cries over stats, liking suggestions you’re stealing money, saying you fake sick to get out of playing, yelling at the gm in public, and so on….combined with every team you attempted to lead being awful?

Thats usual cancer shit.

Giving the ball to the other team out of frustration and throwing on court tantrums is a whole other thing.

Dude just does not seem easy to get along with.


Michael Jordan was a huge asshole and bully... with multiple guys on his team wanting to fight him... even wanting to break his legs and end his career. Teammates of his. Nobody calls him a cancer for it because he played so smart and efficiently... you couldn't with argue the results. Who could ever call MJ dumb? He was ruthlessly intelligent. That's the predominant factor in getting that label or not.

You’ve missed the point. It’s not about being an asshole or a bully. Jordan would never do anything to jeopardize winning. He would never not go to practice, quit on a play, etc.

Not such an issue sometimes with Love.

At least based on several accounts.

[Kblaze8855]

Am I really reading about Jordan and Pippen and why they weren’t considered cancers relative to Kevin Love who was essentially KAT? Hell I’d like to know the ways Kevin Love was a superstar and KAT isn’t. KAT is doing 25 a game on 51/43/83 and exactly nobody gives a shit. I don’t think he’s even having one of his 3-4 best years. I’d suspect most of his seasons are statistically unprecedented as are many peoples if you want to make it out that way with cherry picked numbers.


I wouldn’t hope to have either he or Love as my franchise player. I feel like you would need the Jimmy Butler too. The Draymond Green. An Iggy. Maybe a Manu. Someone who just plays to win and can hopefully build some culture along the way playing hard and not being worried about anything but total team performance.

Id take a Shawn Marion or AK47 17/9 over a Love or KAT 24/10 any day.

[SouBeachTalents]

Am I really reading about Jordan and Pippen and why they weren’t considered cancers relative to Kevin Love who was essentially KAT? Hell I’d like to know the ways Kevin Love was a superstar and KAT isn’t. KAT is doing 25 a game on 51/43/83 and exactly nobody gives a shit. I don’t think he’s even having one of his 3-4 best years. I’d suspect most of his seasons are statistically unprecedented as are many peoples if you want to make it out that way with cherry picked numbers.


I wouldn’t hope to have either he or Love as my franchise player. I feel like you would need the Jimmy Butler too. The Draymond Green. An Iggy. Maybe a Manu. Someone who just plays to win and can hopefully build some culture along the way playing hard and not being worried about anything but total team performance.

Id take a Shawn Marion or AK47 17/9 over a Love or KAT 24/10 any day.
But Kevin Love matched an extremely arbitrary criteria where he was significantly worse across the board than Kareem in a season he missed the playoffs, that's gotta count for something.

[Kblaze8855]

But Kevin Love matched an extremely arbitrary criteria where he was significantly worse across the board than Kareem in a season he missed the playoffs, that's gotta count for something.


The points people try to make with stat minimums are always hilarious. KAT is coming off a 25/10/5 year and his TS has been between 61-65 for 6 years running. I don’t imagine his cherry picked stats would have ever been put up by anyone else. Nobody who scored and rebounds shoots enough threes….and still has the assists. It’s the assists and threes helping TS% that eliminate all the much better bigs in history for such things.

[MadDog]

A lot of semantics here. Some of that noise from Love is dipshit behavior. Idk if I would call him a "cancerous" player though. Hard to deal with, sure. I can buy that.


He was a bonafide superstar. Trolls will be intellectually dishonest and write off his impact with not having team success when if you take into context how poor his team was it’s an absurd and false talking point. To add to it, Kevin Love would have in fact dragged one of the all time worst casts to the playoffs if he had the luxury of playing in a historical weak east conference. In the 2014 year which is being referenced, Kevin Love was able to pull his team to 40 wins, which would have gave him a playoff birth in the East where the Hawks clinched with a 38 win total.

Love was great in 2014 and you're right, his help was pretty awful. I personally don't think he was ever a "superstar" although his production was damn near. He's talked about having to transition into a third option and it being difficult to "spot up and shoot" next to LeBron. He did that for, what, 3 years? Along with the mental stuff, I would imagine it'd take a while to get reacclimated into a larger role. Even with the weak rules, though, I doubt we ever see that version (2014) of Love again. He's like 33 and coming off the bench now.

[Kblaze8855]

. A lot of semantics here. Some of that noise from Love is dipshit behavior. Idk if I would call him a "cancerous" player though. Hard to deal with, sure. I can buy that..


I don’t know that he is either. But I know there’s been an unusual number of eyebrow raising situations and people calling him out. I actually forgot Wade. They got into it so bad Wade issued an apology later when Love did his whole mental health thing.

Thats always a delicate line to walk. Can you call someone who acknowledges mental health issues an asshole?

In public it seems not.

[ELITEpower23]

He was a bonafide superstar. Trolls will be intellectually dishonest and write off his impact with not having team success when if you take into context how poor his team was it’s an absurd and false talking point. To add to it, Kevin Love would have in fact dragged one of the all time worst casts to the playoffs if he had the luxury of playing in a historical weak east conference. In the 2014 year which is being referenced, Kevin Love was able to pull his team to 40 wins, which would have gave him a playoff birth in the East where the Hawks clinched with a 38 win total.

How many playoff series did Kevin Love win as a "bonafide superstar" before the poor fella was forced to win a ring with LeBron?

How many? Thanks.

[warriorfan]

Am I really reading about Jordan and Pippen and why they weren’t considered cancers relative to Kevin Love who was essentially KAT? Hell I’d like to know the ways Kevin Love was a superstar and KAT isn’t. KAT is doing 25 a game on 51/43/83 and exactly nobody gives a shit. I don’t think he’s even having one of his 3-4 best years. I’d suspect most of his seasons are statistically unprecedented as are many peoples if you want to make it out that way with cherry picked numbers.


I wouldn’t hope to have either he or Love as my franchise player. I feel like you would need the Jimmy Butler too. The Draymond Green. An Iggy. Maybe a Manu. Someone who just plays to win and can hopefully build some culture along the way playing hard and not being worried about anything but total team performance.

Id take a Shawn Marion or AK47 17/9 over a Love or KAT 24/10 any day.

This is a LeBron stan meltdown

[SouBeachTalents]

How many playoff series did Kevin Love win as a "bonafide superstar" before the poor fella was forced to win a ring with LeBron?

How many? Thanks.
I don’t even care that he didn’t win a playoff series, even ATG’s like Wade, KG, Kobe & Jordan couldn’t win playoff series with shit supporting casts. But in 6 years to not only never make the playoffs, but never have a winning season, sorry, you’re not a superstar :lol

[Kblaze8855]

This is a LeBron stan meltdown

Unlike you Lebron isn’t a factor in what I say about anyone which is why I’ve been saying the same thing about love for over 10 years. You can find me taking Rodman over love a decade ago. Saying I wouldn’t want Love as a franchise player in 2012 and 13. It’s the same thing with Bosh over again. I say the same thing for 10 years then people like you who can’t form a basketball thought without putting it through your Lebron filter assume it now must have something to do with him.

Every mention over a decade says about the same thing. I actually came across a Love or Bosh topic from when Love was in Minnesota where I said I wouldn’t want either one of them:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?271293-Chris-Bosh-or-Kevin-Love/page2


But that love was young enough to grow into a guy I might want. And that was during his 26/13 year.

I didn’t want him as my franchise player after a 26/13 season in Minnesota 10 years ago. But after playing worse for a decade my current opinion that I wouldn’t want him as the man is because 4 of those years were with Lebron.

Some of you obsessed types really can’t fathom that opinions exist independent of Lebron James because none of yours are.

[Meticode]

I don't know what changed exactly, but he's playing his best basketball as a Cav...ever. Even when LeBron was here Love hasn't played this well.