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Johnny32
01-04-2022, 10:48 AM
https://fadeawayworld.net/nba-media/37-year-old-lebron-james-is-a-better-point-guard-than-russell-westbrook-and-a-better-center-than-anthony-davis

C/D

RRR3
01-04-2022, 11:33 AM
It’s not hard to be a better PG than current Westbrook.

Johnny32
01-04-2022, 12:42 PM
It’s not hard to be a better PG than current Westbrook.

this is currently true unfortunately.

Real Men Wear Green
01-04-2022, 01:14 PM
James isn't better than Davis at protecting the basket. James will put up numbers so that you can say he's a better center but James can put up numbers at any position. You could call him coach and he's still good for 25 to 30 points 6 to 10 boards and 5 to 10 assists.

Johnny32
01-04-2022, 01:20 PM
James isn't better than Davis at protecting the basket. James will put up numbers so that you can say he's a better center but James can put up numbers at any position. You could call him coach and he's still good for 25 to 30 points 6 to 10 boards and 5 to 10 assists.

Overall this year, when Davis has played the center, the Lakers have a defensive rating of 109.6 and an overall net rating of -1.7 in 578 minutes. It's a defensive rating that would rank among the bottom ten in the league and illustrates how much the team has struggled defensively this year.

FultzNationRISE
01-04-2022, 01:24 PM
James isn't better than Davis at protecting the basket. James will put up numbers so that you can say he's a better center but James can put up numbers at any position. You could call him coach and he's still good for 25 to 30 points 6 to 10 boards and 5 to 10 assists.


What the **** is your point, bitch?

If you put both at center on separate teams and give them an equal 1-4 supporting cast... Lebron’s team wins 10 out of 10 times. That makes him a better center.

It doesnt mean the Lakers are better with Lebron playing center in the lineup because then he’s not playing small forward, so youre still just down a player. But with equal variables, a team with Lebron at center is better than one with AD. And it’s not even disputable.

So go fvck yourself, clown ass bitch.

Real Men Wear Green
01-04-2022, 01:28 PM
Apparently someone is too stupid to read. "James isn't better than Davis at protecting the basket. " It's right there in the first sentence. Even you should be capable of understanding that.

TheCorporation
01-04-2022, 01:28 PM
What the **** is your point, bitch?

If you put both at center on separate teams and give them an equal 1-4 supporting cast... Lebron’s team wins 10 out of 10 times. That makes him a better center.

It doesnt mean the Lakers are better with Lebron playing center in the lineup because then he’s not playing small forward, so youre still just down a player. But with equal variables, a team with Lebron at center is better than one with AD. And it’s not even disputable.

So go fvck yourself, clown ass bitch.

:roll:

Johnny32
01-04-2022, 01:30 PM
Apparently someone is too stupid to read. "James isn't better than Davis at protecting the basket. " It's right there in the first sentence. Even you should be capable of understanding that.

you seem upset at the fact the lakers were terrible at defense with anthony rim protector davis playing center this season. this fruitcake hasn't watched ad play since the bubble evidently.

3ba11
01-04-2022, 01:31 PM
Lebron is the all-time leader in turnovers and top 5 in turnovers per game every year.. He's usually right up there with Westbrook in turnovers.. He's smarter and more efficient but he's still "westbrooking" (dominating the ball) with weaker ball movement and low-assist teams, hence 4/10 in the Finals vs superior ball movement, organic teams (Mavs, Spurs, Warriors)..

Accordingly, Lebron would've been just another career-losing ball-dominator just like Harden or Westbrook if he hadn't formed super-teams in a conference that 1-star teams were winning (Iverson, Dwight, Kidd).

TheCorporation
01-04-2022, 01:33 PM
Lebron is the all-time leader in turnovers and top 5 in turnovers per game every year.. He's usually right up there with Westbrook in turnovers.. He's smarter and more efficient but he's still "westbrooking" (dominating the ball) with weaker ball movement and low assist teams, hence 4/10 in the Finals vs superior ball movement, organic teams (Mavs, Spurs, Warriors)..

Accordingly, Lebron would've been another career-losing ball-dominator just like Harden or Westbrook if he hadn't formed super-teams in a conference that 1-star teams were winning (Iverson, Dwight, Kidd).

Don't forget all these my friend

https://i.postimg.cc/kGSrjPvJ/LeBron_James_Dominates.png

Next

:dancin

Real Men Wear Green
01-04-2022, 01:33 PM
you seem upset at the fact the lakers were terrible at defense with anthony rim protector davis playing center this season. this fruitcake hasn't watched ad play since the bubble evidently.

You guys are calling names out of nowhere and somehow I'm upset? Well you probably are all the same person...

FultzNationRISE
01-04-2022, 01:34 PM
Apparently someone is too stupid to read. "James isn't better than Davis at protecting the basket. " It's right there in the first sentence. Even you should be capable of understanding that.


Dont give me semantics you ****ing sucker of horse dick. Your statement was irrelevant and frankly false in all likelyhood. Lebron is the better center. Eat shit you ****.

Johnny32
01-04-2022, 01:34 PM
Lebron is the all-time leader in turnovers and top 5 in turnovers per game every year.. He's usually right up there with Westbrook in turnovers.. He's smarter and more efficient but he's still "westbrooking" (dominating the ball) with weaker ball movement and low-assist teams, hence 4/10 in the Finals vs superior ball movement, organic teams (Mavs, Spurs, Warriors)..

Accordingly, Lebron would've been just another career-losing ball-dominator just like Harden or Westbrook if he hadn't formed super-teams in a conference that 1-star teams were winning (Iverson, Dwight, Kidd).

no autistic driven rants in my topics plz.

Johnny32
01-04-2022, 01:35 PM
You guys are calling names out of nowhere and somehow I'm upset? Well you probably are all the same person...

you called someone a stupid illiterate.

RogueBorg
01-04-2022, 01:36 PM
What the **** is your point, bitch?

If you put both at center on separate teams and give them an equal 1-4 supporting cast... Lebron’s team wins 10 out of 10 times. That makes him a better center.

It doesnt mean the Lakers are better with Lebron playing center in the lineup because then he’s not playing small forward, so youre still just down a player. But with equal variables, a team with Lebron at center is better than one with AD. And it’s not even disputable.

So go fvck yourself, clown ass bitch.

If you're center is playing 38 minutes/game and giving you 7.5 rpg...your center sucks balls.

Real Men Wear Green
01-04-2022, 01:37 PM
Dont give me semantics you ****ing sucker of horse dick. Your statement was irrelevant and frankly false in all likelyhood. Lebron is the better center. Eat shit you ****.

You asked what my point was. It was pretty obvious.

Real Men Wear Green
01-04-2022, 01:37 PM
you called someone a stupid illiterate.

Yes, you are.

Johnny32
01-04-2022, 01:38 PM
I'm upset?

i know.

3ba11
01-04-2022, 01:39 PM
no autistic driven rants in my topics plz.


Lebron hasn't played center yet because he's still bringing the ball up and barely posting

Do you know what a center does - he don't bring the ball up

Starting Lebron at center is just a way to get Monk more playing time (their 4th star, aka big 4), but Lebron is still the PG and running his suboptimal 2 point guard lineups

Johnny32
01-04-2022, 01:41 PM
Lebron hasn't played center yet because he's still bringing the ball up and barely posting

Do you know what a center does - he don't bring the ball up

Starting Lebron at center is just a way to get Monk more playing time (their 4th star, aka big 4)

we call him le1thru5 for a reason.

jordone could never.

RogueBorg
01-04-2022, 01:48 PM
we call him le1thru5 for a reason.



He more like Le-86ron

3ba11
01-04-2022, 01:52 PM
we call him le1thru5 for a reason.

jordone could never.


Jordan could never play badly enough to need super-teams or 1b's like Lebron does because Jordan was good enough to win while averaging far more than teammates (carry-jobs)

AirBonner
01-04-2022, 01:53 PM
LeBeast

3ba11
01-04-2022, 01:54 PM
LeBeast


He literally brings the ball up and doesn't post (not a center)

Otoh, Jordan was the best post player in basketball

When was Lebron called the best post player in basketball like MJ routinely was?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYsbx66LZbA&t=0m43s

Johnny32
01-04-2022, 01:57 PM
Jordan could never need super-teams

false. jordan had defensive super teams in an offensively challenged era.

MadDog
01-04-2022, 02:10 PM
OP and the clown who wrote this article are basketball illiterate lol. Imagine thinking LeBron is a better center than AD. All based on 3 games where the Lakers have played trash comp. :oldlol:

Johnny32
01-04-2022, 02:22 PM
it's crazy that lebron is the lakers best pg, sf, pf and c.

RogueBorg
01-04-2022, 02:24 PM
OP and the clown who wrote this article are basketball illiterate lol. Imagine thinking LeBron is a better center than AD. All based on 3 games where the Lakers have played trash comp. :oldlol:

I agree with this. What makes this topic laughable is AD is a PF, not a C, and wants nothing to do with playing center. The Lakers want him to play center.

Johnny32
01-04-2022, 02:30 PM
no one should be doing what this goat is doing at 37. they're starting to panic and i get it.

Spurs m8
01-04-2022, 02:33 PM
God this guy is the dumbest poster on the forum.

100% the actual lowest bball iq of anyone here.

Op, time to find a new sport, basketball isn't for you

Spurs m8
01-04-2022, 02:35 PM
We haven't even seen James go up against real centres...just guys the same size and lighter than him.

Let's see him go up against Steve Adams of the league...he wouldn't.

What a pea brain

Spurs m8
01-04-2022, 02:37 PM
Imagine being as one dimensional and coming to the conclusions that op does.
Then starting threads about being so stupid hahahahahaah

Johnny32iq

MadDog
01-04-2022, 02:41 PM
Imagine being as one dimensional and coming to the conclusions that op does.
Then starting threads about being so stupid hahahahahaah

Johnny32iq

lmao

Johnny32
01-04-2022, 02:43 PM
no one should be doing what this goat is doing at 37. they're starting to panic and i get it.

not only are they in panic mode they're getting really angry.

LeRuiningChildhoodMemories.

3ba11
01-04-2022, 05:00 PM
false. jordan had defensive super teams in an offensively challenged era.


So if the 90"s were offensively challenged and defensively great, then how goat are Jordan's four #1 offenses with goat margins above league ORTG, despite going 4 on 5 offensively with Rodman and sometimes Pippen?

How many #1 offenses for Lebron?.. zero despite having the only 11-time all-star to ever play 3rd option and sidekicks that routinely outplay league MVp'S

kawhileonard2
01-04-2022, 05:52 PM
https://fadeawayworld.net/nba-media/37-year-old-lebron-james-is-a-better-point-guard-than-russell-westbrook-and-a-better-center-than-anthony-davis

C/D

Westbrook is better he is leading the league in triple doubles and averaged one for 4 years in this era. Lakers only got out of round 1 because of AD he led them

Johnny32
01-05-2022, 02:02 AM
So if the 90"s were offensively challenged and defensively great, then how goat are Jordan's four #1 offenses with goat margins above league ORTG, despite going 4 on 5 offensively with Rodman and sometimes Pippen?

How many #1 offenses for Lebron?.. zero despite having the only 11-time all-star to ever play 3rd option and sidekicks that routinely outplay league MVp'S

it's impressive at face value until you dig a little deeper. do i need to post 'the list' again?

Johnny32
01-05-2022, 02:07 AM
back by popular demand...'the list'

00/10s wing defenders 6'6 or taller that made an all defensive team.

bowen
christie
kobe
artest
ak47
prince
battier
lebron
thabo
g. wallace
iggy
deng
pg13
butler
kawhi
giannis
dray
danny green
andre roberson
robert covington
klay
simmons

80/90s wing defenders 6'6 or taller that made an all defensive team.

mj
rodney mccray
rodman
pippen
majerle
derrick mckey
eddie jones

yeah...not that impressive anymore.

Bawkish
01-05-2022, 02:31 AM
back by popular demand...'the list'

00/10s wing defenders 6'6 or taller that made an all defensive team.

bowen
christie
kobe
artest
ak47
prince
battier
lebron
thabo
g. wallace
iggy
deng
pg13
butler
kawhi
giannis
dray
danny green
andre roberson
robert covington
klay
simmons

80/90s wing defenders 6'6 or taller that made an all defensive team.

mj
rodney mccray
rodman
pippen
majerle
derrick mckey
eddie jones

yeah...not that impressive anymore.

imagine being an MVP and All-Defense 1st team at age 35

Spurs m8
01-05-2022, 02:37 AM
Anyone who watched the game saw he was terrible at C.

Wasn't til Howard came on that shit fell into place.

Johnny is still the dumbest, lying cvnt

Johnny32
01-05-2022, 11:42 AM
Anyone who watched the game saw he was terrible at C.

Wasn't til Howard came on that shit fell into place.

Johnny is still the dumbest, lying cvnt

Speaking of a lying cvnt. Anyone who watched the game saw the lakers have a +13 net rating with legoat at center this season.

Johnny32
01-05-2022, 12:11 PM
imagine being an MVP and All-Defense 1st team at age 35

according to defensive rating mj was the second worst defender on the bulls roster in the 98 finals. only steve kerr was worse.

TheCorporation
01-05-2022, 12:18 PM
back by popular demand...'the list'

00/10s wing defenders 6'6 or taller that made an all defensive team.

bowen
christie
kobe
artest
ak47
prince
battier
lebron
thabo
g. wallace
iggy
deng
pg13
butler
kawhi
giannis
dray
danny green
andre roberson
robert covington
klay
simmons

80/90s wing defenders 6'6 or taller that made an all defensive team.

mj
rodney mccray
rodman
pippen
majerle
derrick mckey
eddie jones

yeah...not that impressive anymore.

Shut it down :pimp:

TheCorporation
01-05-2022, 12:28 PM
according to defensive rating mj was the second worst defender on the bulls roster in the 98 finals. only steve kerr was worse.

https://i.postimg.cc/h486rpwQ/Le-Water2-Wine.jpg

Bronbron23
01-05-2022, 06:14 PM
https://fadeawayworld.net/nba-media/37-year-old-lebron-james-is-a-better-point-guard-than-russell-westbrook-and-a-better-center-than-anthony-davis

C/D

He's nowhere near as good of a center as davis but he's definitely a better pg than westbrook

Full Court
01-05-2022, 06:33 PM
He's nowhere near as good of a center as davis but he's definitely a better pg than westbrook

He's also nowhere near as good of a center as Dwight Howard.

Spurs m8
01-05-2022, 06:56 PM
They don't even have a C when he's on the court lmao

Alex fvcking Len torched him so badly that Vogel couldn't get Dwight on quick enough.

Baller789
01-05-2022, 07:02 PM
This Lebron can be a good defender 1-5 is a myth.

Full Court
01-05-2022, 07:13 PM
This Lebron can be a good defender 1-5 is a myth.

Yeah, there are a lot of myths associated with Brony.

1987_Lakers
01-05-2022, 07:26 PM
It's pretty obvious to pick out the people who missed LeBron's defensive peak. From 2009-2013 his defense was as versatile as any perimeter player in history.

Axe
01-05-2022, 07:39 PM
Op is a nutsucking prick who should have been aborted lol

Baller789
01-05-2022, 08:25 PM
It's pretty obvious to pick out the people who missed LeBron's defensive peak. From 2009-2013 his defense was as versatile as any perimeter player in history.

Versatile doesn't mean better.

Other than Rose, which he only guarded for a few quarters, when was the last time he shutdown an elite point guard? When was the last time he shutdown a proper center?

In fact when was the last time he guarded the opposition's best offensive player for an entire series?

Johnny32
01-06-2022, 12:16 AM
It's pretty obvious to pick out the people who missed LeBron's defensive peak. From 2009-2013 his defense was as versatile as any perimeter player in history.

you don't have to go back to 2013 to see ledpoy's defensive impact. just last season will do.

Defensive Player Ladder.

4. LeBron James, Los Angeles Lakers
Last week’s ranking: 5

Big man Anthony Davis has been out a month now, yet there the Lakers sit atop the league in defensive efficiency (106.0), a sizable edge over Philadelphia (108) and Utah (108.3). And there’s James, leading all players in defensive win shares (0.183) by an equally impressive margin. The 36-year-old future Hall of Famer has a defensive field goal percentage of 40.6% compared to the 46% they normally shoot. That 5.4% difference ranks seventh among players who have logged at least 30 games and face 9.5 shots or more per game. And that makes James the top-ranked non-center.

https://www.nba.com/news/defensive-player-ladder-simmons-embiid-injury

that's march 16th, 2021. just a few days before a fat man dove into his legs.

SATAN
01-06-2022, 12:18 AM
NBA legend Jalen Rose has confirmed this thread title is absolutely true.