View Full Version : so who is the MVP front runner now?
HunterSThompson
01-05-2022, 10:54 PM
sorry but this drops curry out of my top 10
#1 - Kevin Durant
#2 - Giannis Antetokounmpo
#3 - Nikola Jokic
#4 - Demar Derozan
#5 - Ja Morant
#6 - Trae Young
#7 - Chris Paul
#8 - LeBron James
#9 - Lamelo Ball
#10 - Luka Doncic
SouBeachTalents
01-05-2022, 10:59 PM
I just can't imagine Durant getting MVP if Kyrie starts playing, even if it's just the road games. Curry's not gonna play this way indefinitely, I think he's still the frontrunner despite this atrocious stretch of play. I think Giannis will be a victim of voter fatigue, so I'd be surprised if he wins MVP for the 3rd time in 4 seasons.
How is LeBron in your top 10 when he’s the worst player of all time?
Hopefully not ja morant from that list.
Full Court
01-05-2022, 11:03 PM
How is LeBron in your top 10 when he’s the worst player of all time?
Oh come on. Literally nobody thinks he's the worst player of all time. He's on almost everyone's top 10 of all time list.
Maybe the most overrated player of all time though.
kawhileonard2
01-05-2022, 11:06 PM
Devin Booker needs to be at the top of the list.
Kawhi_Why_Not
01-05-2022, 11:34 PM
No klay and still the best record in the league. Still curry. Although the league is a joke without GOAT around
HunterSThompson
01-05-2022, 11:36 PM
How is LeBron in your top 10 when he’s the worst player of all time?
I've said he's 6th all time for a while. and most recently I've given his recent roid run the possibility of barry bonds like Co goat status with Mike the way bonds is with Ruth among people who don't disqualify cheating
HunterSThompson
01-05-2022, 11:38 PM
Devin Booker needs to be at the top of the list.
its Chris Paul's team lol. without him they're a 7th seed at best
kawhileonard2
01-05-2022, 11:43 PM
its Chris Paul's team lol. without him they're a 7th seed at best
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron
BigShotBob
01-05-2022, 11:44 PM
Giannis and KD
Wally450
01-05-2022, 11:51 PM
Oh come on. Literally nobody thinks he's the worst player of all time. He's on almost everyone's top 10 of all time list.
Maybe the most overrated player of all time though.
Far from it actually.
Full Court
01-05-2022, 11:59 PM
I've said he's 6th all time for a while. and most recently I've given his recent roid run the possibility of barry bonds like Co goat status with Mike the way bonds is with Ruth among people who don't disqualify cheating
Hate to say it, but putting thousands of dollars into Brony's rookie cards was not a well-timed investment. The card market as a whole is cooling off quite a bit. I think you bought at a peak.
HunterSThompson
01-06-2022, 12:39 AM
Hate to say it, but putting thousands of dollars into Brony's rookie cards was not a well-timed investment. The card market as a whole is cooling off quite a bit. I think you bought at a peak.
lol wtf no I bought them at 4 grand and they peaked at 8 grand Canadian. I got a sick deal on them if they start going back up. took a risk. might as well
the market goes up and down depending on how good rookie classes are and if it's during the season or off season. it's all about hype surrounding someone or something. Currys stuff sky rocketed recently. so did ovechkins. so its up and down for everything depending on the individual and time of year
Manny98
01-06-2022, 12:51 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/7PRB1m9H/giphy.gif
wagexslave
01-06-2022, 01:53 AM
its Chris Paul's team lol. without him they're a 7th seed at best
LOL Zero ****ing chance they're only a 7th seed if you replace CP3's contract with another star, or a solid-to-good starting PG and other quality player(s).
Shit, they already would have easily made at minimum 6th seed the season before CP3 came when they had Rubio+Oubre, but Ayton's 25 game suspension and an endless roller coaster of injuries leading to constant lineup changes resulted in them missing the play-in by 1 game. And the West was tougher that season, AND Book+Ayton+Bridges+Johnson have all developed more and improved their games since then, and they upgraded their supporting cast/bench greatly.
Btw last time I checked, Booker's on-off stats were higher than CP3's(and way higher in the playoffs), and I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the Suns have won every game where CP3 didn't play since he joined the team(including Game 1 + 2 against the Clippers in the WCF). And CP3's shooting has been significantly worse this season and Book is a much better defender now as CP3 gets blown past to the hoop a lot lately.
I love CP3, he's the leader... the player's coach, the mastermind of the offensive scheme and he keeps the young guys in check. But anyone who actually watches the Suns knows this is Devin Booker's team overall. There's a reason why in the playoffs whenever CP3 rested but Book was on the court, we generally still did good, but whenever CP3 was on the court but Book rested the other team usually went on runs.
Shit, CP3 said from the beginning that the reason he asked to get traded to Phoenix was because he wanted to play with Book. No Book = No CP3, he made that very clear. CP3 makes other players better, but so does Book. The double teams and attention Book draws from defenses makes everyone's job on the team so much easier. So many more guys get open looks when Book is on the court.
Johnny32
01-06-2022, 01:55 AM
lebron. lakers currently the 6th seed with a roster decimated by injuries. starting at center and also playing pg. no one is even close to his level.
k0kakw0rld
01-06-2022, 12:34 PM
Pascal Siakam
HunterSThompson
01-06-2022, 12:37 PM
LOL Zero ****ing chance they're only a 7th seed if you replace CP3's contract with another star, or a solid-to-good starting PG and other quality player(s).
Shit, they already would have easily made at minimum 6th seed the season before CP3 came when they had Rubio+Oubre, but Ayton's 25 game suspension and an endless roller coaster of injuries leading to constant lineup changes resulted in them missing the play-in by 1 game. And the West was tougher that season, AND Book+Ayton+Bridges+Johnson have all developed more and improved their games since then, and they upgraded their supporting cast/bench greatly.
Btw last time I checked, Booker's on-off stats were higher than CP3's(and way higher in the playoffs), and I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the Suns have won every game where CP3 didn't play since he joined the team(including Game 1 + 2 against the Clippers in the WCF). And CP3's shooting has been significantly worse this season and Book is a much better defender now as CP3 gets blown past to the hoop a lot lately.
I love CP3, he's the leader... the player's coach, the mastermind of the offensive scheme and he keeps the young guys in check. But anyone who actually watches the Suns knows this is Devin Booker's team overall. There's a reason why in the playoffs whenever CP3 rested but Book was on the court, we generally still did good, but whenever CP3 was on the court but Book rested the other team usually went on runs.
Shit, CP3 said from the beginning that the reason he asked to get traded to Phoenix was because he wanted to play with Book. No Book = No CP3, he made that very clear. CP3 makes other players better, but so does Book. The double teams and attention Book draws from defenses makes everyone's job on the team so much easier. So many more guys get open looks when Book is on the court.
replace his contract? so it's still not bookers team then I guess since Paul makes like 40 million a year so any single replacement other than westbrook would likely be better than booker also. and the sun's are probly way over the cap anyway so that money shouldn't even be on their pay roll to begin with
Phoenix
01-06-2022, 12:38 PM
I just can't imagine Durant getting MVP if Kyrie starts playing, even if it's just the road games. Curry's not gonna play this way indefinitely, I think he's still the frontrunner despite this atrocious stretch of play. I think Giannis will be a victim of voter fatigue, so I'd be surprised if he wins MVP for the 3rd time in 4 seasons.
Maybe not. Lebron won back to back(09 and 10), Rose won in 11, then Lebron went back to back again (12 and 13). Giannis has been consistent all season and he doesn't have a Harden and/or a returning Kyrie level player playing next to him. That 'could' swing the difference to Freak if it comes down to him, KD and Steph.
expansionera
01-06-2022, 12:53 PM
KD plays alongside Harden, I feel like two MVPs on the same team (with Kyrie coming back part time) should negate MVP consideration.
1. Curry
2. Jokic
3. Embiid
4. DeMar
5. Lebron
6. KD
7. Mitchell
8. Booker
9. Giannis
10. Trae
TheCorporation
01-06-2022, 12:57 PM
KD plays alongside Harden, I feel like two MVPs on the same team (with Kyrie coming back part time) should negate MVP consideration.
1. Curry
2. Jokic
3. Embiid
4. DeMar
5. Lebron
6. KD
7. Mitchell
8. Booker
9. Giannis
10. Trae
Perfect list at the moment. I'd just move Yanny up a little but great top 5 list.
HunterSThompson
01-06-2022, 02:16 PM
KD plays alongside Harden, I feel like two MVPs on the same team (with Kyrie coming back part time) should negate MVP consideration.
1. Curry
2. Jokic
3. Embiid
4. DeMar
5. Lebron
6. KD
7. Mitchell
8. Booker
9. Giannis
10. Trae
saying kd plays along side harden is like saying LeBron has Westbrook. both are negatives and should improve their mvp rankings
HunterSThompson
01-06-2022, 02:22 PM
harden =21/8/9 with 5 turnovers on 41%fgs/32%threes
westbrick = 20/8/8 with 5 turnovers on 45%fgs and 30%threes
if Durant can't win mvp cause he has harden then why consider lebron.
and kyrie will end up missing more games than davis
tpols
01-06-2022, 02:25 PM
harden =21/8/9 with 5 turnovers on 41%fgs/32%threes
westbrick = 20/8/8 with 5 turnovers on 45%fgs and 30%threes
if Durant can't win mvp cause he has harden then why consider lebron.
and kyrie will end up missing more games than davis
I haven't watched many nets games this year... can't believe harden is playing worse than Westbrook. :lol he needs to bring back the flopping moves.
1987_Lakers
01-06-2022, 02:27 PM
harden =21/8/9 with 5 turnovers on 41%fgs/32%threes
westbrick = 20/8/8 with 5 turnovers on 45%fgs and 30%threes
if Durant can't win mvp cause he has harden then why consider lebron.
and kyrie will end up missing more games than davis
Harden is obviously having an off year, but to put him on the same level as Westbrook is shamful.
59 TS% for Harden
52 TS% for Westbrook
Harden is also averaging 22.5 pts, 8 rbs, & 9.8 assists, how in the world does that equal to 21/8/9??? If you want to round up it's 23/8/10. Agenda exposed.
expansionera
01-06-2022, 02:28 PM
Harden is obviously having an off year, but to put him on the same level as Westbrook is shamful.
59 TS% for Harden
52 TS% for Westbrook
Harden is also averaging 22.5 pts, 8 rbs, & 9.8 assists, how in the world does that equal to 21/8/9??? If you want to round up it's 23/8/10. Agenda exposes.
Shameful, that guy has lost all credibility faking stats
1987_Lakers
01-06-2022, 02:30 PM
Shameful, that guy has lost all credibility faking stats
The sad part is posters who just take his word for it instead of doing their own research.
wagexslave
01-06-2022, 04:30 PM
replace his contract? so it's still not bookers team then I guess since Paul makes like 40 million a year so any single replacement other than westbrook would likely be better than booker also. and the sun's are probly way over the cap anyway so that money shouldn't even be on their pay roll to begin with
CP3 is making 30 mil a year guaranteed for 2.5 years(4 year contract, 3rd year only guaranteed 15 mil and 4th year team option). And they're not as far over the cap as you'd think, especially with Javale McGee on the MLE. Book is currently their highest paid player making $31.5m/year
HunterSThompson
01-06-2022, 04:35 PM
Harden is obviously having an off year, but to put him on the same level as Westbrook is shamful.
59 TS% for Harden
52 TS% for Westbrook
Harden is also averaging 22.5 pts, 8 rbs, & 9.8 assists, how in the world does that equal to 21/8/9??? If you want to round up it's 23/8/10. Agenda exposed.
don't you literally round up and down and count injured 1st quarter averages for your agendas. I literally rounded shit up and down just to make you dance
:lol
1987_Lakers
01-06-2022, 04:40 PM
I literally rounded shit up and down just to make you dance
:lol
No you didn't. I didn't even post in this thread until I saw you lying.
You were trying to pull a fast one on people like 3ball and got caught.
Take the L and move on.
Bronbron23
01-06-2022, 05:54 PM
lol wtf no I bought them at 4 grand and they peaked at 8 grand Canadian. I got a sick deal on them if they start going back up. took a risk. might as well
the market goes up and down depending on how good rookie classes are and if it's during the season or off season. it's all about hype surrounding someone or something. Currys stuff sky rocketed recently. so did ovechkins. so its up and down for everything depending on the individual and time of year
It's a good investment even with the current market. Bron is set to break more records and with each one his value will go up. Try to buy his nft's when this happens. They'll be worth a fortune
HunterSThompson
01-06-2022, 06:26 PM
No you didn't. I didn't even post in this thread until I saw you lying.
You were trying to pull a fast one on people like 3ball and got caught.
Take the L and move on.
you're half the posters ITT
:lol
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