Has Jordan ever advanced to the Finals while shooting 3-11?

[BigShotBob]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200706020CLE.html

Just stumbled across a game where a certain player shot 3-11 but somehow still made it to the Finals. Has Jordan ever done that? Just asking.

[Spurs m8]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200706020CLE.html

Just stumbled across a game where a certain player shot 3-11 but somehow still made it to the Finals. Has Jordan ever done that? Just asking.

Yikes

[ELITEpower23]

He shot for 3 for 18 and went to the Finals...Idiot :oldlol:

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Stay in school

[FKAri]

Does putting up 24 more shots to get 9 more points count?

[SouBeachTalents]

He clinched a title going 5/19, an even worse shooting %

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199606160CHI.html

[Baller789]

He shot for 3 for 18 and went to the Finals...Idiot :oldlol:

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Stay in school

Maybe you should have stayed in school since what you are spouting about isn't the topic.

:lebronamazed:

[BigShotBob]

He clinched a title going 5/19, an even worse shooting %

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199606160CHI.html

Lebron was 9/19 in game 5 of the 2012 Finals to clinch a title

Try.

Again.

:lol

[warriorfan]

Watching people talk up that thunder team is funny. Acting like a team of 22 and 23 year olds have ever won a championship lol.

[SpaceJam]

Lebron was 9/19 in game 5 of the 2012 Finals to clinch a title

Try.

Again.

:lol

Might wanna find another example, 47% shooting laughable?

[SouBeachTalents]

Lebron was 9/19 in game 5 of the 2012 Finals to clinch a title

Try.

Again.

:lol
Are you retarded? Not only is 9/19 a significantly better %, LeBron had 26/11/13 on 57%TS. That was a dumb reply by you :lol

[Baller789]

Watching people talk up that thunder team is funny. Acting like a team of 22 and 23 year olds have ever won a championship lol.

If ever a young team wins it, it's more of the exception than norm.
Of course agenda driven posters are gonna say that Thunder's team was stacked. So was Shaq's Magic. And we all know what happened in the Finals.

[1987_Lakers]

He shot for 3 for 18 and went to the Finals...Idiot :oldlol:

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Stay in school

Another series that doesn't get talked about is the '97 ECF, MJ shot 11 of 31 in the closeout game. Shot 39% for the series.

MJ had alot of bad shooting series during his 2nd 3 peat so this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, pretty crazy because during his 1st 3 peat (excluding the Knicks series in '93) he was crazy efficient.

[BigShotBob]

Are you retarded? Not only is 9/19 a significantly better %, LeBron had 26/11/13 on 57%TS. That was a dumb reply by you :lol

Bring up Lebron having a triple double when you ignored that MJ had a near- triple double against the Knicks with 22/8/11 and 2 steals and 2 blocks :oldlol:

No, shooting 9/19 is not good to close out a Finals.

Oh and MJ almost had a triple double in the game you lined with 22/9/7 and 2 steals

Like I said try again. Just because he shot worse than Bran doesn't mean that Bran didnt have a subpar game unless you want to actually account for other stats now

[Axe]

Are they worse than kobe's or almost just the same?

[1987_Lakers]

Lebron was 9/19 in game 5 of the 2012 Finals to clinch a title

Try.

Again.

:lol

Is this supposed to be an insult?

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[warriorfan]

If ever a young team wins it, it's more of the exception than norm.
Of course agenda driven posters are gonna say that Thunder's team was stacked. So was Shaq's Magic. And we all know what happened in the Finals.

No team has ever won with a core that young. It is a rule. Even the best players need a few years to learn what it takes to win a championship. Hell, LeBron at age 25 with a super team, with a guy who already had been there and won an alpha chip on his own, was still figuring it out as he was getting his butt kicked by Jason Terry. It’s a process.

[SouBeachTalents]

Another series that doesn't get talked about is the '97 ECF, MJ shot 11 of 31 in the closeout game. Shot 39% for the series.

MJ had alot of bad shooting series during his 2nd 3 peat so this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, pretty crazy because during his 1st 3 peat (excluding the Knicks series in '93) he was crazy efficient.
He went 9/35 the game before :lol

[Bawkish]

Another series that doesn't get talked about is the '97 ECF, MJ shot 11 of 31 in the closeout game. Shot 39% for the series.

MJ had alot of bad shooting series during his 2nd 3 peat so this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, pretty crazy because during his 1st 3 peat (excluding the Knicks series in '93) he was crazy efficient.

Not only MJ but both teams shot horribly the entire series, it's an eyesore

[BigShotBob]

Another series that doesn't get talked about is the '97 ECF, MJ shot 11 of 31 in the closeout game. Shot 39% for the series.

MJ had alot of bad shooting series during his 2nd 3 peat so this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, pretty crazy because during his 1st 3 peat (excluding the Knicks series in '93) he was crazy efficient.

No one shot well that series. Context is everything. It was a chippy, slow, grind it out series that players today are lucky to never have to experience.

[Baller789]

No one shot well that series. Context is everything. It was a chippy, slow, grind it out series that players today are lucky to never have to experience.

Those slow, grind it out games made some intense battles in the past tho..
Some ugly games too.

[warriorfan]

Jordan would score 40 ppg in the no hand check era

[1987_Lakers]

No one shot well that series. Context is everything. It was a chippy, slow, grind it out series that players today are lucky to never have to experience.

That's understandable, but Jordan's TS% in that series was worse than Pippen, Harper, Kerr, Longley, Mourning, Hardaway, Mashburn etc etc.

Blows my mind how both teams shot under 30% from 3 despite having a WNBA three point line, nobody misses that garbage era.

[Baller789]

Jordan would score 40 ppg in the no hand check era

He already scored 37 with physicality. 40 is easy with freedom of movement rules on a bad team for Mike.

[SouBeachTalents]

Bring up Lebron having a triple double when you ignored that MJ had a near- triple double against the Knicks with 22/8/11 and 2 steals and 2 blocks :oldlol:

No, shooting 9/19 is not good to close out a Finals.

Oh and MJ almost had a triple double in the game you lined with 22/9/7 and 2 steals

Like I said try again. Just because he shot worse than Bran doesn't mean that Bran didnt have a subpar game unless you want to actually account for other stats now
Huh? I literally never even mentioned Jordan's 3/18 game, so that doesn't have any relevance to what I said.

You harping on a 9/19 shooting game is one of the oddest arguments I've seen in a long time. In the 2012 season LeBron averaged 10/19, so you acting like a literal one shot difference from his regular average is some subpar game is really bizarre. As is you actually claiming a 26/11/13 on 57%TS game is subpar :lol Especially when you consider the previous two seasons we saw Dirk & Kobe go 9/27 & 6/24 to clinch their titles.

[Bawkish]

Those slow, grind it out games made some intense battles in the past tho..
Some ugly games too.

i mean if you're looking for basketball entertainment then that series should not be mentioned

Only semblance of good in that series is Rodman goading Mourning to fight him WWE style

[1987_Lakers]

He already scored 37 with physicality. 40 is easy with freedom of movement rules on a bad team for Mike.

He averaged 37 when teams in general were averaging 110 ppg and close to 50 fg%. Teams today average 108 ppg, so your statement holds no weight.

[Baller789]

i mean if you're looking for basketball entertainment then that series should not be mentioned

Only semblance of good in that series is Rodman goading Mourning to fight him WWE style

Rodman grabbing Zo's arse made him lose his $h!t.

That was frickin hilarious.

[Baller789]

He averaged 37 when teams in general were averaging 110 ppg and close to 50 fg%. Teams today average 108 ppg, so your statement holds no weight.

You mean this perimeter friendly league with weak rim protection?

[SpaceJam]

Bring up Lebron having a triple double when you ignored that MJ had a near- triple double against the Knicks with 22/8/11 and 2 steals and 2 blocks :oldlol:

No, shooting 9/19 is not good to close out a Finals.

Oh and MJ almost had a triple double in the game you lined with 22/9/7 and 2 steals

Like I said try again. Just because he shot worse than Bran doesn't mean that Bran didnt have a subpar game unless you want to actually account for other stats now

1998: 15/35 43%
1997: 15/35 43%
1996: 5/19 26%

MJs 2nd 3Peat close-out games were NOT good, poverty shooting performances

[1987_Lakers]

You mean this perimeter friendly league with weak rim protection?

The thing I find funny is how people who don't know their history always label the 80's as this crazy physical era which is somewhat true, but fail to realize that it was also a decade where teams were breaking records in points scored, I mean the Lakers at one point were averaging close to 120 ppg, it was far from a defensive league.

And not shit there is less rim protection today, players today can actually shoot from 3 so there is more spacing, the days of the paint being clogged by multiple players are over.

[Baller789]

The thing I find funny is how people who don't know their history always label the 80's as this crazy physical era which is somewhat true, but fail to realize that it was also a decade where teams were breaking records in points scored, I mean the Lakers at one point were averaging close to 120 ppg, it was far from a defensive league.

I'll make this simple for you.

Is this a perimeter friendly era or not?

A. Yes.
B. No

Is Jordan a perimeter player?

A. Yes
B. No

[Vino24]

Op has curry ever not played with a fmvp sidekick?

[Axe]

The thing I find funny is how people who don't know their history always label the 80's as this crazy physical era which is somewhat true, but fail to realize that it was also a decade where teams were breaking records in points scored, I mean the Lakers at one point were averaging close to 120 ppg, it was far from a defensive league.

And not shit there is less rim protection today, players today can actually shoot from 3 so there is more spacing, the days of the paint being clogged by multiple players are over.
I've heard that rudy gobert is one expert of this.

[1987_Lakers]

I'll make this simple for you.

Is this a perimeter friendly era or not?

A. Yes.
B. No

Is Jordan a perimeter player?

A. Yes
B. No

Well no shit MJ would dominate today, but 40 ppg is pushing it. It has only been done twice, both seasons by Wilt Chamberlain like 60 years ago. Defenses today are not much worse than they were in the 80's, they are actually much more sophisticated today, but with more restrictions.

[SATAN]

Jordan would score 40 ppg in the no hand check era

It's already been proven that he would average 26.9ppg this season.

[SATAN]

Lebron was 9/19 in game 5 of the 2012 Finals to clinch a title

Try.

Again.

:lol

Holy shit, what a weak effort. Even you can do better than that. :facepalm

[Baller789]

Well no shit MJ would dominate today, but 40 ppg is pushing it. It has only been done twice, both seasons by Wilt Chamberlain like 60 years ago. Defenses today are not much worse than they were in the 80's, they are actually much more sophisticated today, but with more restrictions.

Yes restrictions.

Restrictions on the defensive players.

[TheGoatest]

Advanced? Jordan WON a finals shooting 5-19. Along with a nice 5 turnovers. The benefits of playing in a shyt era. :oldlol:

[ShawkFactory]

No one shot well that series. Context is everything. It was a chippy, slow, grind it out series that players today are lucky to never have to experience.

This is one of the most ironic posts I've ever seen. The 2007 ECF was a very slow-paced series too feature 2 top 5 defenses.

[HoopsNY]

Another series that doesn't get talked about is the '97 ECF, MJ shot 11 of 31 in the closeout game. Shot 39% for the series.

MJ had alot of bad shooting series during his 2nd 3 peat so this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, pretty crazy because during his 1st 3 peat (excluding the Knicks series in '93) he was crazy efficient.

This is true. It's actually a stain on MJ's legacy, because his peak years is what he really lives off of. The second three peat was underwhelming in terms of his performance, but only because he had set the bar so high for himself.

MJ did no service to himself by retiring the first time, because he was still in his peak. Taking that 2 year hiatus brought him down, but he still managed to put together elite numbers. Scary to think what "could" have been had he not left the game the first time instead of having three retirements.

[HoopsNY]

That's understandable, but Jordan's TS% in that series was worse than Pippen, Harper, Kerr, Longley, Mourning, Hardaway, Mashburn etc etc.

Blows my mind how both teams shot under 30% from 3 despite having a WNBA three point line, nobody misses that garbage era.

I don't have any data but it would be interesting to do some homework on that. My theory is that with a shorter line plus tougher perimeter defensive rules, teams were able to close out much faster on guys. During the playoffs, teams did this with greater regularity (unafraid to risk fouls since playoff basketball is more freely played). With less spacing, it gave rise to more shots being contested.

[FireDavidKahn]

Does putting up 24 more shots to get 9 more points count?

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[AirBonner]

Op has curry ever not played with a fmvp sidekick?

Savage

[HoopsNY]

Jordan would score 40 ppg in the no hand check era

Highly doubt this. Averaging 40 PPG in today's era would most certainly cause conflict with teammates, not to mention it wouldn't produce winning basketball.

MJ's greatest asset as he played longer was his basketball IQ. There's a reason no one cares for his 1986-87 season.

The biggest thing that Jordan would accomplish from a statistical standpoint is that he'd probably have a high FG%. I could see him shooting 55% in today's era. His stat-line would be something like 33/8/7/3. Sure, he could get a few seasons dropping 34-38 PPG, but what would that result in for the team?

[3ba11]

Lebron only needed 23 ppg to win the 11' and 14' ECF, and teammates matched his PPG in both series.

Lebron had teammates outscore him in many series or playoff runs, while Jordan always carried the load and beat max defensive attention (no teammate to match him and take pressure off) - no teammate got within 10 ppg of Mike in any series.

[expansionera]

Lebron was 9/19 in game 5 of the 2012 Finals to clinch a title

Try.

Again.

:lol

Average Jordan fan :roll:

[kawhileonard2]

Has Kobe or Wade not won a ring player with Shaq? When Lebron played with proven Shaq he lost in round 2. When Lebron played with peak Duncan/Iverson he won bronze medal.

[3ba11]

Has Kobe or Wade not won a ring player with Shaq? When Lebron played with proven Shaq he lost in round 2. When Lebron played with peak Duncan/Iverson he won bronze medal.


Lebron underperformed with Shaq, Duncan, and now Westbrook - even Bradley Beal did about the same with Westbrook last year, while PG13, Durant and Harden vastly outperformed Lebron with Westbrook

[imdaman99]

Boobie Gibson 31 points on 9 shots :biggums:

[kawhileonard2]

Average Jordan fan :roll:

Has Jordan lost with Shaq on his squad in the playoffs or playing with peak Duncan in the Olympics?

[BigShotBob]

Boobie Gibson 31 points on 9 shots :biggums:

"No help"

[Gohan]

Im sorry but that thunder team was a trash finals team. Only lebron fans could try to say otherwise