6 rings in 11 full seasons without super-teams > 4 in 19 with them

[3ba11]

Carry on the fake debate dummies

Anyone that thinks Lebron is anywhere near Jordan has no eye test and cannot discern one skillset from another.

You don't understand basketball or how a player's skillset affects brand of ball/strategy/chemistry, teammate fits, and ultimately, team ceiling/Finals record.

[Dray n Klay]

LeBron has the most rings out of everyone in the league

Jordan never had the most rings in his era

[AirBonner]

Bill Russell

[TheCorporation]

11 seasons!? We dont reward quitters :lol

[AirBonner]

Bill won 11 in 13

[ELITEpower23]

11 seasons!? We dont reward quitters :lol

+1

Imagine saying 15 seasons like it's a good thing? :oldlol:

Brittle quitter bitch, foh

[Spurs m8]

Carry on the fake debate dummies

Anyone that thinks Lebron is anywhere near Jordan has no eye test and cannot discern one skillset from another.

You don't understand basketball or how a player's skillset affects brand of ball/strategy/chemistry, teammate fits, and ultimately, team ceiling/Finals record.

Truth

[kawhileonard2]

Lebron quit on the Cavs and they burned his jersey and held his family hostage. He also only won 1 title for the franchise that drafted him which is pathetic in 11 years. Imagine someone getting credit when they lose with Shaq and only get to round 2 and they lose with peak Duncan getting bronze medal. :roll:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for

[guy]

LeBron has the most rings out of everyone in the league

Jordan never had the most rings in his era

What?:oldlol:

[Hey Yo]

What?:oldlol:

Pippen had the same amount.

[kawhileonard2]

Pippen had the same amount.

Horry had more than Shaq and Duncan as well. Cousy had more than Kareem.

Lebron lost with Shaq on his squad. Lebron won bronze medal with Duncan.

[3ba11]

Pippen had the same amount.


Jordan has the most rings in 3-pointer history as the best player

And with the least help - ONLY MJ played with just 1 other all-star in his career - everyone else played with 5-9 guys that were all-stars alongside him

[SATAN]

This topic seems really new and fresh.

[guy]

Pippen had the same amount.

Ummm which means he still had the most rings in his era.

[ELITEpower23]

Ummm which means he still had the most rings in his era.

No

[Axe]

Jordan has the most rings in 3-pointer history as the best player

And with the least help - ONLY MJ played with just 1 other all-star in his career - everyone else played with 5-9 guys that were all-stars alongside him
Take the zenmaster phil jackson out then both mj and kobe are ringless.

[Dray n Klay]

LeBron had the most rings, Jordan didn't

end thread

[Baller789]

Take the zenmaster phil jackson out then both mj and kobe are ringless.

I don't think any NBA player has won without a head coach slick.

[Axe]

And another one. Juls the puppy literally following me. :(

[k0kakw0rld]

STFU IDIOT. You are talking about a man who knows nothing about your pathetic existence.

[SpaceJam]

Carry on the fake debate dummies

Anyone that thinks Lebron is anywhere near Jordan has no eye test and cannot discern one skillset from another.

You don't understand basketball or how a player's skillset affects brand of ball/strategy/chemistry, teammate fits, and ultimately, team ceiling/Finals record.

Just a trivia question for the forum. Who starts the most MJ/LeBron threads on here?

[Gohan]

Lmao at people braggin about 19 seasons like its a good thing. Sorry jordan has a life. Lmao at these “basketball is life” f*ggots

[Baller789]

And another one. Juls the puppy literally following me. :(

Yes I am.
Wactha gonna do about it?
:party:

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Jordan has the most rings in 3-pointer history as the best player

And with the least help - ONLY MJ played with just 1 other all-star in his career - everyone else played with 5-9 guys that were all-stars alongside him

Lebron is the ONLY guy to beat a 73 win team with no all-star help :oldlol:

Obviously Jordan played with dozens of all star caliber guys (Grant, Armstrong, Kukoc, Rodman, Pippen, Harper, Bison Dele, George Gervin, Orlando Woolridge, Bill Cartwright, Oak, Parish, Jerry Stackhouse, Larry Hughes) whom he diminished with Jordan-ball or high usage scoring against maximum defensive attention, a la James Harden or Luka Doncic. It wasn’t until such time Pippen took on the role of de facto point guard and defensive leader Jordan’s bad habits were mitigated and he was able to play a specialized role on a championship team

[Axe]

Lebron is the ONLY guy to beat a 73 win team with no all-star help :oldlol:

Obviously Jordan played with dozens of all star caliber guys (Grant, Armstrong, Kukoc, Rodman, Pippen, Harper, Bison Dele, George Gervin, Orlando Woolridge, Bill Cartwright, Oak, Parish, Jerry Stackhouse, Larry Hughes) whom he diminished with Jordan-ball or high usage scoring against maximum defensive attention, a la James Harden or Luka Doncic. It wasn’t until such time Pippen took on the role of de facto point guard and defensive leader Jordan’s bad habits were mitigated and he was able to play a specialized role on a championship team
Just like op is towards your hero, you towards kong's nemesis (obviously none other than baldone ofc) got you posting and thinking about him or everything related to him all day. However, it's really ironic that you call his teammates 'all-star caliber' when they all played in the 90s that you keep on whining a 'weak and watered-down' era using your main account. At least try to be consistent. :(

But ofc you're an agenda-driven troll tho so keep on going with your lame shtick.

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Just like op is towards your hero, you towards kong's nemesis (obviously none other than baldone ofc) got you posting and thinking about him or everything related to him all day. However, it's really ironic that you call his teammates 'all-star caliber' when they all played in the 90s that you keep on whining a 'weak and watered-down' era using your main account. At least try to be consistent. :(

But ofc you're an agenda-driven troll tho so keep on going with your lame shtick.

Neither of those things are mutually exclusive. You can be all star caliber relative to your competition even if said competition is weak, see Michael Jordan

[Axe]

Neither of those things are mutually exclusive. You can be all star caliber relative to your competition even if said competition is weak, see Michael Jordan
Maybe but because you said baldone ball diminished his teammates when he was there while they played without him in 94, then they should have won a ring that said year. Since they won 55 games during the rs while their first option was suspended from his gambling antics, after all. Sadly they didn't even go to the finals, you buffoon. :facepalm

[Full Court]

LeBron has the most rings out of everyone in the league

Jordan never had the most rings in his era


Pippen had the same amount.

Lol. Just wow. You Bronies have outdone yourselves. It's expected that you're going to make comepletely brainless arguments, but this just might be the dumbest.

You might as well say that Will Perdue was top 10 of all time because he three-peated.

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Maybe but because you said baldone ball diminished his teammates when he was there while they played without him in 94, then they should have won a ring that said year. Since they won 55 games during the rs while their first option was suspended from his gambling antics, after all. Sadly they didn't even go to the finals, you buffoon. :facepalm

If you constructed a team that rostered every Hall of Fame/all star caliber player Jordan played with (sans Jordan) they would assuredly win a title. However that wasn’t the case when Jordan went to play baseball.

Scottie Pippen, Horace Grant, Toni Kukoc and Bj Armstrong won 55 games replacing MJ’s all star production with an overseas player named Pete Myers. Had they replaced him with even a capable NBA bench player they’d likely have won the entire thing, they already came close with the 90s equivalent of Frank Ntilikina

[Johnny32]

only casuals compare championships across eras.

[Axe]

If you constructed a team that rostered every Hall of Fame/all star caliber player Jordan played with (sans Jordan) they would assuredly win a title. However that wasn’t the case when Jordan went to play baseball.

Scottie Pippen, Horace Grant, Toni Kukoc and Bj Armstrong won 55 games replacing MJ’s all star production with an overseas player named Pete Myers. Had they replaced him with even a capable NBA bench player they’d likely have won the entire thing, they already came close with the 90s equivalent of Frank Ntilikina
Probably but no. The only real reason for that is because that actual team couldn't win it all as their competition couldn't go any more weaker during baldone's absence.

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Probably but no. The only real reason for that is because that actual team couldn't win it all as their competition couldn't go any more weaker during baldone's absence.

If you put all of Jordan’s best teammates from the 90s on one team they’d have no competition. Jordan traditionally stacked his teams with the most talented players of his generation

[Axe]

If you put all of Jordan’s best teammates from the 90s on one team they’d have no competition. Jordan traditionally stacked his teams with the most talented players of his generation
Except baldone wasn't the one who assembled their dynasty, you clown. It was jerry krause. Baldone was trying to get other more talented players to the team over the likes of pippen, grant and some useful role players but krause didn't heed to him back then.

[Johnny32]

If you constructed a team that rostered every Hall of Fame/all star caliber player Jordan played with (sans Jordan) they would assuredly win a title. However that wasn’t the case when Jordan went to play baseball.

Scottie Pippen, Horace Grant, Toni Kukoc and Bj Armstrong won 55 games replacing MJ’s all star production with an overseas player named Pete Myers. Had they replaced him with even a capable NBA bench player they’d likely have won the entire thing, they already came close with the 90s equivalent of Frank Ntilikina

what does it say about jordan that losing horace grant in 95 had a greater impact on w/l than mj the previous season?

[Wally450]

Tell me what super teams LeBron played on...

[Baller789]

Tell me what super teams LeBron played on...

Not one, not two, not three....


:bowdown:

[Full Court]

Tell me what super teams LeBron played on...

He thought he was making the Lakers into a superteam this year when he and AD had their War Room decision to acquire Westbrook.

:lol

[ELITEpower23]

b-b-b-b-but Jordone quit three times so he has less seasons :cry:

:oldlol: 2 fu**ing bad

[Baller789]

b-b-b-b-but Jordone quit three times so he has less seasons :cry:

:oldlol: 2 fu**ing bad

Why?

[3ba11]

b-b-b-b-but Jordone quit three times so he has less seasons :cry:

:oldlol: 2 fu**ing bad


Jordan beat 6 Finals teams without a 3rd all-star teammate

Lebron needed twice as much time yet only beat 4 Finals teams despite having a 3rd all-star teammate (super-team) or a teammate lead statistically

Lebron's lesser accomplishment is because his skillset has weaker teammate fits and team strategy (ball-dominance)

[Axe]

Jordan beat 6 Finals teams without a 3rd all-star teammate

Lebron needed twice as much time yet only beat 4 Finals teams despite having a 3rd all-star teammate (super-team) or a teammate lead statistically

Lebron's lesser accomplishment is because his skillset has weaker teammate fits and team strategy (ball-dominance)
1-9

[Spurs m8]

Lebron on a team that has 3 all stars, seasoned vets and a star in the making in Monk.

Recruited two top 5 PER guys in Wade and Bosh.

WHAT SUPER TEAM HAS HE BEEN ON GUYS?

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